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But then if he sees you notice him, he gets kind of like startled.
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And then like sometimes that's when he'll disappear or like run away.
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The audacity.
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Oh I'm sorry, did I scare you?
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Yeah, my own house.
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So it's kind of like one of those ones like which one of you is the ghost, you know?
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I'm him.
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I feel confident.
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I don't need to phone a friend.
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Yeah.
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Final answer.
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You're fluffer.
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Hi, Caitlyn, you mother fluffer.
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Hi Cassie.
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Hi creepy people.
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Hello.
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I can see Caitlyn's whole face with both my eyes.
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It's insane.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, if you're not watching the video, we got new low profile mic stands.
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Yes.
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And we can see each other.
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I'm so excited.
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So excited.
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Yeah.
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I've never been more excited actually.
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I was so excited.
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So excited.
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Well, this is PNW Haunts and Homicides, where we chat about true crime, the paranormal and
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all things spooky in the Pacific Northwest.
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We're the PNW, if you're nasty.
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And we know y'all.
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So nasty.
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So nasty.
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We also do a tarot reading in every episode to give a little bit of deeper insight into our
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topic and have a little witchy fun.
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Yeah.
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So stick around if you want to have a little witchy fun with us.
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Did we talk about the board?
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We talk about that.
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I don't know if we officially talked about the roadcaster pro two.
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I can't remembe, but we got.
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Sponsor us.
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Or whatever, you know, like no big deal.
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Give us the new camera one for free.
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That would be awesome.
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That would be amazing.
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Yeah.
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So we were having issues recording with, you know, fancy mics recording into garage band,
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you know, free is great.
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Get ready to do it while you can.
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But it gets frustrating after a while when things aren't going right.
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So we needed one to just make our brains more sane.
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And she pretty.
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She is party.
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She's so party.
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Well, that's all I had.
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You're trying to stall.
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No, I'm just kind of like, I'm just still like a little bit like glamored by our, I am
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too.
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Our new stuff.
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I've just like settled in though.
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I just sat down and I'm like, yeah, this is light.
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This is how life should be.
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I'm happy as a clam over here.
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It's good timing.
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It's good timing.
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You know what else is good timing?
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Me getting rid of my severe fucking cystic acne before my whole face is like shown to
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you guys.
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That's why I've been hiding behind my mics and my pop filters.
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But now, you know, I have a couple of you probably see them, but I don't think so.
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Overall, I look better.
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If anyone's struggling with cystic acne, check your medications.
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Really common side effect.
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Yeah.
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Really common side effect for anti-depressants, certain anti-depressant medications.
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So real bummer.
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Yeah, you know, but you know, having acne on your face makes you even more depressed
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than the pill helps.
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So I would argue.
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I would argue.
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Yeah.
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That's sort of like if you, there's other anti-depressant or I mean, they're used for a lot of
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other applications, but there's, it's the class of medications called SSRIs where it
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affects like your sex drive.
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Oh.
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Essentially like it'll lower your libido, but it also, and this is crazy.
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It can actually like a very commonly reported side effect of it is that like you actually
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have difficulty in climaxing.
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Oh no.
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Yeah.
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And it's like, okay, so I'm not depressed, but I'm like, how does that make sense?
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You need that to not be depressed too.
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So like, yeah, I feel like that's kind of a bummer.
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Like that's a terrible side effect.
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Yeah.
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Sometimes I like to start things off with dad jokes and this is in fact one of those times.
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Okay.
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This is actual dad joke material from an actual dad, my dad.
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Oh boy.
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Who taught me all I know about dad jokes.
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All right.
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So my dad was telling me about some spooky things that happened to him and he like, he's
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in the woods a lot.
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He lives around the woods.
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So I asked him if he has ever seen a not dear.
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And if you don't know what a not dear is, we've kind of talked about it a little bit before
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with Cristina, I think.
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Yeah.
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Sounds familiar, but it's just like a deer that there's just like something off about it.
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That's kind of what I remembered.
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Like it like moves weird.
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Yeah.
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It'll like stand and walk on two legs or it'll like have like a face that kind of looks
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human.
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It's just like not right.
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It's exactly what it sounds like.
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It's like a deer, but it's like not.
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So he says to me, I see one.
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Every day, every single day, when I go out into the woods and there's not a deer there.
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Oh my god.
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I fucking walked straight into that dad joke.
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Yeah.
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I did that to my own self, but that was gold.
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Thank you, dad.
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Oh, man.
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I'm actually kind of annoyed that I didn't really see that coming.
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I didn't let the time either.
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I know.
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I was like, wait a minute.
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You know what those are.
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You've seen a not deer.
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Like you have to tell me.
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And then he pulls that one over on me.
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And I was like, that was good.
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That was good.
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Man, props to you, dad.
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Yeah.
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Thanks.
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Thanks, dad.
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Thanks.
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So I thought that was kind of, you know, fall related and fun to start with before I scare
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the crap out of you.
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Okay.
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I feel like I'm building up a tolerance though.
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I hope so.
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I mean, I have to be because we just did the ghost tour and that is true.
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You didn't really freak out.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I did part of the time that you weren't really aware of.
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Yeah.
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I don't know that Chris really caught it on any of our recording stuff, but I, because I intentionally
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I was just saying it to him because I was like, oh my gosh, I don't want to be like every
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time something happens, be like, oh, you know, like it's too much.
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No, it's not.
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It's never enough.
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I don't know that I just was like, yeah, so it's funny that you should say that because I
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was seeing that and then you started talking about it like five minutes later.
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I don't want to give anything away.
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I mean, this comes out after that.
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So they'll have heard, but we haven't reported about it yet with us.
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I kind of know what you mean, but I haven't heard the whole story yet.
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So yeah, I'm being intentionally big.
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Yeah.
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But you all, you all know by then.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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Okay.
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So before we officially start the story, I used another podcast called Strange for Milliers
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for most of my research because this is mainly where these stories that I'm focusing on are.
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Ooh.
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They're collecting all of these stories and working on speculations about it and even riding
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a book.
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Ooh.
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Ooh.
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And so I went through and I listened to, there's probably ten episodes.
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With like multiple different stories.
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I went through and listened to all of them and like took notes about it and they are so
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interesting.
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There's so much detailing these stories.
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Like I'm not even touching like the tip of the iceberg here.
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Well, I'm touching the tip of the iceberg, but I'm not going below the surface.
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Yeah, just the tip.
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So please go over there to Strange Familiars.
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You can just in their little search bar.
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It's a little search.
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Oh, I almost told you what it was.
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Search what this topic is.
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Okay.
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And then find all of the stories.
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They're so interesting.
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Oh my gosh.
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I had fun listening to hours and hours of these stories.
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It's okay.
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Great.
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I go hard on my research, you guys.
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Yeah.
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Because there's not really a lot written about it.
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Yeah.
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There's like a couple other podcasts I see that did it.
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I didn't really listen to those because I was like, well, I'm going to go through like the
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main source and figure all this out for myself.
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But there's like not a lot of articles.
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There's some Reddit stuff that I'll link to, but okay.
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That's about it.
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I know.
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So exciting.
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Everything's exciting today.
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Yeah.
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You're really excited.
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You're just excited about being excited, even.
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I'm very excited all these days.
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Yeah.
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Well, I wanted to tell you that I was listening to a podcast for my research because I was
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using Spotify.
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Oh.
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It was acting so fucking weird.
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Like yeah.
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I was constantly listening to podcasts and stuff and it gets weird.
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Sometimes you know, there needs to be an update stuff glitches, but this was like, yeah.
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Consistently weird.
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Acting through the whole thing.
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So it was being like slow and I would go to click something and it like wouldn't click.
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It would click like 30 seconds later, but like not even where I pushed my finger.
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Oh, weird.
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Yeah.
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So you know, when you're listening to stuff, you want to like rewind.
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Yeah.
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So I was just fast forward.
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So I was fighting with it the entire time.
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So it took me like probably 10 times longer than it should have.
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So I was fighting with the whole time.
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So I just thought that was interesting.
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It was updated.
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So I don't know.
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I had full 5G bars.
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Oh, yeah.
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I was going to say because the other issue that you have is like not having very good.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Now are you ready for the story?
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Maybe.
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Or kicking November off with a fall fashionista phantom.
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Ooh, Flannel Man.
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Now I see why you wanted me to have the flannel.
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Am I getting it?
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Okay.
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Listen, I meant to ask you this before.
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I was afraid.
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I didn't have any flannel in my closet, but I was afraid that if I put on something flannel,
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like I was like, she's like trying to trick me.
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It's going to be like somebody like a ghost that haunts people wearing flannel or something.
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So now that I know, well, I guess I don't know.
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I guess that's my question.
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Listen, I'm panicking.
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Okay.
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You don't know yet.
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Should I be wearing flannel or should I not?
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I mean, it's really up to you.
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I don't like that answer.
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If you want to take the chance and go put some flannel on, I know.
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I'm not a risk taker.
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It is flannel man.
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So it is about some entity wearing flannel.
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So it's not about someone who haunts people in flannel.
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If you need to go put some on.
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If I get chilly, then I'll go grab my little grandma shawl.
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Okay.
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Not blanky.
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But you are sufficiently dressed for fall, I think.
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You got the call color edge going on.
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So I think you're cool.
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First mentioned in a paranormal forum long ago in the depths of the interwebs,
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flannel man is seen all over the US and even in the UK.
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But in the US, he's seen from Minnesota to Ohio, from Florida to Kentucky and Texas.
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And yes, even right here in the go to flannel lovin’ nasty PNW. From California through Oregon
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up to Washington and over to Montana.
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...
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Look you guys.
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I know geography.
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Geography.
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I just named places up and over.
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Yeah, you're like, "Yeah, over there."
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So when I say Flannel Man, what do you think this guy looks like?
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A lumberjack.
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Exactly.
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It looks like a lumberjack.
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And of course I became obsessed as soon as I heard the word flannel man.
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I was like, "Who is this?
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Who is this man?
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I need to find him."
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She's in love.
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Unfortunately, I've never seen him yet.
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It's always tomorrow.
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There is always tomorrow or tonight or right now, just kidding.
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Okay.
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Well, I have a camera at the front door now.
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So fancy.
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Flannel Man, you can't creep outside of Caitlyn's house.
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Yeah.
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Most often, people ranging from children to adults, so pretty much everyone, see a man in
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a flannel shirt.
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And it's not just plain flannel though, it always has a plaid pattern on it.
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So like the typical, like what you would think about a lumberjack wearing.
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It's usually the red and black buffalo plaid that we're all used to.
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Even though it's usually like the red and black plaid, the colors do vary from story to
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story.
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So sometimes people have seen him in like a white and black plaid or a brown or even like
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a blue green.
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And I was just going to ask you about blue.
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Yeah.
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Blue green.
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Okay.
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And but it is always like a plaid pattern.
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He's almost always wearing blue jeans and boots and described us looking like a lumberjack.
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Okay.
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Typical lumberjack.
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And a couple people even say he has an axe, which kind of side note reminds me of something
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that me and my friend made up as a child.
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I don't know if I've mentioned it before on here.
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I don't know if this is a thing people do anymore, but we would like sleep outside in the backyard
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on the trampoline.
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Like all the time.
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Yeah.
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Like trampoline.
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I would now camping, you know?
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Yeah.
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But there was like this creepy neighbor's house and it was like all overgrown and stuff.
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And we used to say that axe man lived over there and the axe man was going to come for us.
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I don't know where this can't like I don't know where I heard it.
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I don't know where she heard it or if we just like made up this scary axe man thing,
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but it obviously in my mind, he looked like a lumberjack and he probably was wearing like
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plaid flannel jeans and boots with an axe.
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We didn't I don't remember ever seeing him.
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Did you just manifest the flannel man?
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Am I the reason for the flannel man?
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Am I the drama?
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I think there are sightings like before I was born.
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Okay.
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Or maybe like when I was like really young.
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I mean it could have been like past life you though because I feel like every iteration
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of you in every dimension loves a lumberjack and I flannel man from a past life.
349
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Oh, I don't know.
350
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Yeah, I don't know.
351
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I don't know.
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I do love flannels.
353
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Yeah.
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You do love a good flannel.
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It's very Seattle.
356
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It's funny you say that.
357
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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That might come back around later.
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Okay.
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And I've about me kind of most describe him as having a like longer dark hair and a beard.
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And I assume when people say longer hair they just mean like longer than like a short typical
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man hairstyle.
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Maybe.
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So not like long but like just like longer than short I guess.
366
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I was going to say do we get any sort of specificity around that?
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There is a variety.
368
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A lot of people just say he had longer hair.
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But there is some of them do have specific like it was shoulder length.
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It was this it was that but yeah, just longer than normal and usually kind of like not very
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neat.
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Okay.
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It bothers me when people say things sometimes like and I'm probably guilty of it too.
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I feel like sometimes we just expect people to finish our thought for us or we don't even
375
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realize it anyways.
376
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It bothers me when people say things like oh you know it's longer but like what?
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Right.
378
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Exactly.
379
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Like that.
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Like there should be a then yeah and then some other I think they mean they longer than normal
381
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but which is like that's so subjective.
382
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Right.
383
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Like normal for military normal for someone who lives in the woods for 50 years alone.
384
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Like what is normal?
385
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Okay.
386
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I think like one one or like two people described as being like really like pretty long
387
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hair like shoulder length.
388
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Yeah.
389
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But I think somewhere between shoulder length and short is like what most people see.
390
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We're really going on about the hair.
391
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You know, I feel like maybe I maybe I did need my full regimen of meds today.
392
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It's the Leo in you though.
393
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You're just like obsessed with hair.
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That's the thing.
395
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Oh, is that a thing?
396
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It's a Leo thing.
397
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Yes.
398
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You're really.
399
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Oh, that makes so much sense.
400
00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:00,520
Yeah.
401
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And I'm like a Leo of venus Leo.
402
00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:08,520
So like Venus is all about like your appearance and like lovely things and so like I'm also
403
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kind of obsessed with hair.
404
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So I get it.
405
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It makes sense for us.
406
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But this is kind of where things start to vary even more from story to story.
407
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So some have seen him as blonde instead of with dark hair.
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Most mostly with dark hair but a couple have seen him as blonde.
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Others see him wearing different kinds of hats.
410
00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:36,240
Some see him wearing like old-timey type of goggles.
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Kind of like leather goggles.
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I'm not sure what they would have been for but people just describe them as like old-timey.
413
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Like he's like rocking a steam punk.
414
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That's like where my mind went.
415
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I'm not under percent sure what the goggles were.
416
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Yeah.
417
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They're like also he I don't know if this is important at all but he's wearing like a
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plate.
419
00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:58,440
Dr. Mask you know it's fine.
420
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Everything's fine.
421
00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,440
It's all it's not that noticeable on your face.
422
00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:03,440
Yeah exactly exactly.
423
00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:04,440
I love it.
424
00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:11,960
That's kind of funny though because someone one of the stories it was like when she was a
425
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little kid and like the little boys that were with her were like are these night vision
426
00:18:18,120 --> 00:18:23,040
goggles and I'm like I don't think so funny but they're night vision goggles.
427
00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,640
Oh my god.
428
00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:29,840
Those are like those are noticeable on your face no matter what stuff others tell you.
429
00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:30,840
Yeah.
430
00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,080
Listen don't believe everything you see on TV.
431
00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,080
Yeah.
432
00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:43,080
The Beards range in description too so they range from short neat to very long and unkempt.
433
00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:44,080
Okay.
434
00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,640
Well that's where I'm like okay.
435
00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:47,960
Different times of year maybe.
436
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Maybe.
437
00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:53,080
I mean obviously we're not everyone's not seeing the same exact guy.
438
00:18:53,080 --> 00:19:00,760
It's kind of like hat man feel because like hat man is described kind of you know where
439
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you're very various different hats you know it's kind of like that type of thing so it's
440
00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,400
not the same exact entity everyone is seeing.
441
00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,120
Obviously that's kind of what I gather from listening to all the these stories but that
442
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was like one of their theories as well.
443
00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:16,120
Okay.
444
00:19:16,120 --> 00:19:17,920
I mean that kind of makes sense to me I guess.
445
00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:24,720
The Beards can also be gray or just not there at all some of them don't have beards just
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a chisel jaw ula la.
447
00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,080
That rhymes.
448
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Most people say he is very tall like kind of taller than average like six foot to six
449
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five.
450
00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:39,200
Okay.
451
00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,840
Others say he is about average height so like five eight to five ten.
452
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Okay.
453
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Is that average height now?
454
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A ish average ish.
455
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I don't know.
456
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,080
I don't know.
457
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:49,080
I don't know.
458
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And then five ten's like average.
459
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Yeah.
460
00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,280
So short that it like these heights you're like what is numbers.
461
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I don't know.
462
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I'm like how do you breathe?
463
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You probably don't run so good there.
464
00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,800
So you know that altitude sickness.
465
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Yeah.
466
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:04,800
Yeah.
467
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:11,440
Every story I've heard from this podcast says that he is a white guy but there was like one
468
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:17,400
story that said he had tanskin and he could have been an indigenous person.
469
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:18,400
Oh, interesting.
470
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:24,240
But overwhelmingly he's a white dude like all of the serial killers.
471
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:25,240
Yeah.
472
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Just watch out.
473
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,840
I mean, let's be real though.
474
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,640
Jake Bird we just talk about.
475
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:32,640
It's true.
476
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:33,640
It's true.
477
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Their faces are often said to be in shadow or just overall hard to make out.
478
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So other than like the beard and like a chiseled jaw people can't really make out things about
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his face.
480
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,920
Oh, it's like a really bad sketch artist.
481
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:50,920
Yeah.
482
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:57,000
So I think it's just that like they don't want to be seen in detail but then there's like
483
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these other details that change like the hair color and things.
484
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,200
So I don't know.
485
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,200
It like depends on the lighting too.
486
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,840
For all of these like color issues.
487
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:06,840
So I don't know.
488
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:07,840
Yeah.
489
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:13,880
I think one of those like, you know, longer than or you know, lighter than than what?
490
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Yeah.
491
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I'm going to need you to give me two examples.
492
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I just need a picture.
493
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,560
Get a picture of flannel man for us.
494
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Not that hard.
495
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:22,560
What?
496
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Like it's hard.
497
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:24,800
Actually it might be kind of hard.
498
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:25,800
Probably pretty hard.
499
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,880
I'll tell you why in a little bit.
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00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:32,920
A couple people have said that instead of a lumberjack they get more of like a 90's
501
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grunt vibe from him.
502
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,680
And that's like my whole vibe today.
503
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,720
Bro, I got the Choker necklace.
504
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:40,720
Is it Kurt Cobain?
505
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:41,720
It's funny.
506
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:46,800
You say that because one person even named their flannel man Kurt.
507
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:47,800
Stop it.
508
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:48,800
Yeah.
509
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:56,280
There was one story about someone who saw described their whole situation and then was like, I call
510
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him Kurt because like he was wearing a plan on the friendship.
511
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It's the vibe.
512
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:01,960
It's the vibe.
513
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Oh my God.
514
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:09,320
And there have been a couple stories of even flannel women.
515
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:14,720
So there are a couple women involved in this flannel situation.
516
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:15,720
Okay.
517
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,720
Well now I feel a little bit like I need my scarf.
518
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,160
Although it's not flannel.
519
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,800
It'll be plaid but not flannel.
520
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,480
I mean plaid is flannel.
521
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:25,760
It's kind of interchangeable.
522
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:26,760
I think so.
523
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:27,760
Yeah.
524
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,040
Like my hair could be longer than.
525
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,040
Exactly.
526
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,040
Yeah.
527
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:37,040
Yeah, I know flannel is like technically like a material type but yeah.
528
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,560
And this is it's this is in this instance.
529
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:50,400
They do mean it as like the plaid and at least one person said that he had glowing red eyes.
530
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,400
No.
531
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,960
Oh, I really hate that.
532
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:55,960
I know.
533
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:56,960
Why?
534
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,200
It's creepy.
535
00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,200
Yeah.
536
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,200
Yeah.
537
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,200
I don't know why it wasn't everybody.
538
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:07,000
To my knowledge listening to all these stories it was just the one person.
539
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,040
It wasn't it wasn't everyone.
540
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,040
Very.
541
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,800
And we'll kind of go over the feelings and stuff.
542
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:13,800
Okay.
543
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:14,800
A little bit.
544
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:15,800
Yeah.
545
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:16,800
I have a lot of feelings.
546
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:17,800
Okay.
547
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:18,800
A lot of people have a lot of feelings.
548
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,640
I don't have a lot of feeling in my feet right now.
549
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,040
But I have feelings for you flannel man.
550
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,280
Will you come visit me tonight in my room?
551
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,280
Yeah.
552
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,280
Her room at her house.
553
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,280
Spring the axe.
554
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,880
Oh my god.
555
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:35,880
Something's happening to me.
556
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:36,880
Yeah.
557
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:37,880
It's taking over my body.
558
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,840
You are being really weird.
559
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,760
So what happens during a flannel man sighting?
560
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:43,760
Probably nothing.
561
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,520
I'm sure it's everything's fine.
562
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:46,520
Everything's fine.
563
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:47,520
Everything's fine.
564
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,360
Everybody goes home and goes bed and I mean kind of.
565
00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:52,360
Oh.
566
00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:53,360
Okay.
567
00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:54,360
Cool.
568
00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:59,360
So you're like half right?
569
00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:00,360
Okay.
570
00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:01,360
No.
571
00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:06,360
That's not even close to the same thing at all.
572
00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:08,120
You're the bed part right?
573
00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:10,360
That's not in the spirit of what I said.
574
00:24:10,360 --> 00:24:14,640
I just want to be a fun to be clear about that.
575
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,240
Or they like wake up in the middle of the night and you know like go to get a drink of
576
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:24,320
water or something and then randomly see the flannel man standing like in the kitchen
577
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,600
or somewhere along the way.
578
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:32,880
And encounters typically don't last very long before he will just disappear in front of
579
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:37,600
your eyes or like you'll turn and then he'll be gone or he'll just like start to walk
580
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,320
away and fade away.
581
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,320
Okay.
582
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:46,280
So he doesn't stick around very long and then usually people say he's just kind of like
583
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,160
staring at you, watching you.
584
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,160
Okay.
585
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,960
So he's sort of like the two pump chomp of like apparitions.
586
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:54,960
I guess so.
587
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:55,960
Yeah.
588
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:56,960
Kind of.
589
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:57,960
Okay.
590
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,320
But he does like to stare and watch.
591
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:04,080
But then if he sees you notice him, he gets kind of like startled and then like sometimes
592
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,000
that's when he'll disappear or like run away.
593
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,000
The audacity.
594
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,000
Oh, I'm sorry.
595
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,000
Did I scare you?
596
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,000
Yeah.
597
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,000
My own house.
598
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,520
So it's kind of like one of those ones like which one of you is the ghost, you know?
599
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:17,520
I'm him.
600
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,160
I feel confident.
601
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,520
I don't need to phone a friend.
602
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:24,520
Yeah.
603
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:25,840
Final answer.
604
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,800
I don't know if he knows where he's at.
605
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,800
If he's just startled to be caught, not really sure.
606
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,680
I just feel like I just like shook my head.
607
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,000
So like I don't know.
608
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,040
That just I got like, well, well, dizzy there.
609
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,360
Is that gives me Sir your startle?
610
00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:44,360
Yeah.
611
00:25:44,360 --> 00:25:45,360
Okay.
612
00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:51,960
A few people say that they woke up from a loud sound, but it's kind of like you, you
613
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,760
don't really know what the sound was because you're like, you were asleep in all of a sudden
614
00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:00,720
you're awake from some sort of sound and then saw him.
615
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,280
So like that makes it kind of extra creepy.
616
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,280
Yeah.
617
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,160
Like is he burying his accent like my closet door or something?
618
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,320
Like is that what I'm, is that the sound?
619
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,160
He needs to bury his accent me.
620
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,440
Oh, you know what?
621
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,440
Okay.
622
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,360
This is why I wore the shirt today.
623
00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:23,880
I'm going to show you guys my shirt from the Ash and you go concert.
624
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:28,120
It says I can't help that I want to be Titi smothered because I feel like I am like going
625
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:33,640
so hardcore on like dudes like, I love lumberjack dudes, but I also want some Titi.
626
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,680
So I felt like I had to represent both today.
627
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:36,680
Okay.
628
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:37,680
To see you guys out.
629
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,520
I am selfish and I want everybody.
630
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,520
Yeah.
631
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:43,960
I wanted all.
632
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:48,200
So we left off after I said that people woke up sometimes from a loud sound didn't know
633
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,200
what it was and then they see flattamann.
634
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,200
No.
635
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,200
Kind of like that.
636
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,920
But for the most part, people don't really get a bad vibe from him.
637
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:03,720
It's just like overall feeling uncomfortable at suddenly seeing like a man in your house
638
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,560
that shouldn't be there.
639
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,560
Relatable.
640
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:07,560
Yeah.
641
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,280
And some people do even see him like not just in their home.
642
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,880
Some people have reported him like on the side of the road.
643
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,680
How many of you said they saw I'm sitting on like a median of like a highway?
644
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,320
Oh, which is a really weird spot.
645
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,120
So like places like he really shouldn't be.
646
00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:25,120
Okay.
647
00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:26,120
Yeah.
648
00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:27,120
No one should be there.
649
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:28,120
No one should be.
650
00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:31,480
No man should be in your bedroom or on the side of the road or anywhere.
651
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,480
Just don't be there.
652
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:33,480
Even in flannel.
653
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,160
It's not an excuse.
654
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,320
There's no excuse.
655
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,600
Not even flannel.
656
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:45,960
People say that they also feel like even though he looks like a normal person, like he's
657
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:51,720
solid, he's not like see through anything, they just get the vibe that he's not.
658
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,240
He's like not a normal person.
659
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,240
He's not of this world.
660
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,440
Like he's something different in paranormal basically.
661
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:58,440
Okay.
662
00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,440
He's a not dear.
663
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:00,440
He's a not lumberjack.
664
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,440
Yeah.
665
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,440
Oh, new thing.
666
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,920
Flannel man's out.
667
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,920
Not lumberjack is in.
668
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:07,920
New level.
669
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:14,760
So like I said, people don't really get like a super evil, a menacing vibe from him or anything.
670
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:22,280
Other than a couple instances like the one where he was just standing there, grinning
671
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:29,720
at a mother and daughter at the same time into separate bedrooms.
672
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:30,720
I'm sorry.
673
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:31,720
What?
674
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:32,720
Yeah.
675
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:39,800
He was just standing there in his flannel just grinning at this mother and daughter who
676
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:44,680
were in two separate rooms and had this experience at the same exact time.
677
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,200
The mom screamed because she saw a man in her room.
678
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,200
Yeah.
679
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,000
And then when she screamed, he disappeared and she heard her daughter screaming like there's
680
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,480
a man in my room.
681
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,440
So they were having like the same experience at the same time.
682
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,480
I don't care for that.
683
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:00,800
I'll be honest.
684
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,880
The grinning is just like, yeah.
685
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,480
That feels menacing.
686
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,680
Okay, especially when you do that with your eyes.
687
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:08,840
Like I think of pinny eyes.
688
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,320
I don't know what I did with my eyes.
689
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:11,320
Hopefully it was creepy.
690
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,320
Oh God.
691
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,320
Yeah.
692
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,320
No, it was creepy.
693
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,320
Good.
694
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:16,320
God.
695
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,640
I'm going to just sit here and like completely destroy my cuticle.
696
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:21,640
I was going to scare you.
697
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,320
Like picking your nails right now.
698
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,320
You're nervous.
699
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,800
No, I'm fine.
700
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:31,240
We could have put oven mitts on you so you don't see.
701
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,240
Oh my God.
702
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,720
Yeah, I might need a.
703
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,760
Maybe I'll grab a rock.
704
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,240
Oh, that's a good idea.
705
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,240
Yeah.
706
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:42,240
Rub your rocks.
707
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,240
Get your rocks off.
708
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,240
Get your rocks off.
709
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:50,720
People report even smelling him like the smell of his new clothes or his like leathery
710
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,680
boots or even feeling his boots.
711
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,920
Like some people have like reached out to touch him and they he feels like solid.
712
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,120
He is there.
713
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,040
Why are we just touching people's home?
714
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,280
I think because like if you're in your sleepy state, you wake up and you just want to like,
715
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,160
I don't know, see if see if they're if that's real.
716
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:18,240
And apparently he is someone even like hold on his beard kind of thinking it was like Halloween
717
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,240
time.
718
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,040
They thought maybe it was one of their parents.
719
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,480
It was a kid.
720
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:27,520
So they like reached up and yanked his beard and it like didn't come off.
721
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:28,520
It was.
722
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,760
Spoiler alert was not one of the parents.
723
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,600
Some other interesting things happened in that story.
724
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,480
Yeah, you'll have to just go go listen.
725
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:46,160
One Reddit comment from Hail the Cat Overlords apparently had reoccurring sightings of him
726
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:54,120
of flannel man and said that he always smelled like cigarettes and they asked him to stop smoking
727
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,640
when he came around.
728
00:30:55,640 --> 00:31:01,640
Oh, and he did like they never smelled the cigarettes again when they saw him.
729
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,640
So it's pretty nice.
730
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,640
Yeah, that's polite.
731
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,120
It's like a decent dude, I guess.
732
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,120
Yeah.
733
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,120
So it's the staring and the grinning.
734
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,120
Yeah.
735
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:15,960
I just picture him kind of smelling like sawdust.
736
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,240
Yeah, you would think, right?
737
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:23,400
I don't think anyone reported that the the smells were mostly like about his clothes and
738
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,480
like the cigarette smell.
739
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,480
Interesting.
740
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,880
That would be interesting for them to start asking people like was there any smells associated
741
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:32,880
with it?
742
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:33,880
Yeah.
743
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:44,480
Like that's one of or arguably the most impactful sensory thing.
744
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:45,480
I don't know.
745
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:50,400
I'm struggling to find the words for that.
746
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,400
Everything's fine.
747
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,680
I don't think it's fine.
748
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,440
Most people say they just see him once and then don't ever see him again with the exception
749
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,160
of like a couple people like the cigarette people, the cigarette people.
750
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,440
But not cigarette people because they didn't want the cigarette.
751
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,400
The non smokers.
752
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,760
And all of these people that are telling their stories, they're saying that they they've
753
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,440
had this experience of seeing flannel man before really even hearing about it.
754
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,200
Because like this is like a super well known thing.
755
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,400
It's more known now than it was when they started this.
756
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,440
I mean, like as people started telling their stories and people hear them and then they're
757
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,920
like, oh my gosh, like I've seen flannel man.
758
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:38,880
I've seen a man in plaid show up either in my bedroom or along the side of the road.
759
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,760
It's a little more owner, I say like believable.
760
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:42,760
Oh, yeah.
761
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,480
Because these people aren't just hearing the story and then saying, oh, I saw him.
762
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,120
Like it wasn't like implanted in their mind or anything.
763
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,040
Yeah, that makes sense.
764
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:58,320
And they're usually like shocked to hear that other people have seen this man and flannel.
765
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,680
So I feel like it's something that's a very specific but also like very general.
766
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,680
If that makes sense.
767
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:10,080
Like seeing a man in plaid, you're not automatically like, oh, that's something that is interesting
768
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,080
really.
769
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,080
It's just kind of general.
770
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:17,080
But then when you see other people start having the same saying the same things over,
771
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,160
it's like, oh, maybe that isn't so general.
772
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,320
It's kind of specific.
773
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,320
Yeah.
774
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:27,120
Well, I think some of that, you know, it's in an isolated incident.
775
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,640
It's like maybe it's just very innocuous.
776
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:31,640
Yeah.
777
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:38,400
When you get down to like the pattern recognition of it all, it's like, oh, that seems more meaningful.
778
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:39,400
Yeah.
779
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,920
Like there's more to it.
780
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,440
Thank you for understanding what I was trying to say and explaining it better because I
781
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,680
was just like, it's general, but it's also specific.
782
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:48,680
Yeah.
783
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:54,160
No, but it's one of those things where actually I just was watching a show and they were talking
784
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:59,560
about how the best place to hide something is in plain sight.
785
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:00,560
Oh, yes.
786
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:05,280
Basically, you know, and yeah, Cassie can really, that's so funny.
787
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,400
It's all, it all ties together.
788
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:13,840
Cassie came into my room because I was going to go look for something plaid and I was like,
789
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,400
oh, you can't come in here.
790
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,800
And I literally never said that.
791
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,560
Usually she's like standing outside the door like, can I come in?
792
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:28,280
Like suddenly, you know, one or both of Chris and I will be naked somehow, but I don't
793
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,520
know what they do in there.
794
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:31,520
You guys.
795
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:36,600
I'm like, I was literally in the doorway 15 seconds ago.
796
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,280
I don't know how quickly.
797
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,320
Well, when you said that to your like, oh, you can't come in here.
798
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,600
I'm looking right at you and I was like, oh, are you naked?
799
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:44,600
Yeah, you did.
800
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:45,600
Yeah.
801
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:46,600
Are you naked?
802
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,600
I'm looking at you.
803
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,000
Like what?
804
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,400
Well, and it was just us here at the house.
805
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,400
Yeah.
806
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:59,800
But it was because there's something that's forecasty, but it's not pretty yet.
807
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,320
So I saw nothing.
808
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,400
Yeah, she's like, I don't know.
809
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:08,680
I saw nothing, apparently not even Caitlin standing right in front of me fully clothed.
810
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:09,680
Yeah.
811
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,240
Talk about pattern recognition.
812
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:15,880
So that's me.
813
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,680
I don't notice things.
814
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,920
I feel like you'd notice Plano Man.
815
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,680
I think that's what really matters.
816
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,680
Yeah, I probably would notice you, Plano Man.
817
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:24,680
Yeah.
818
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:30,000
If you'd like to show yourself, not at Caitlin's, we've established.
819
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:37,160
So no one really knows what Plano Man is or what he, she, they mean or want.
820
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:42,240
But some people think he might be some type of spirit guide.
821
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:46,240
The people that don't get like the really bad vibes from him kind of think maybe he's
822
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:51,840
a spirit guide or even an interdimensional entity.
823
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:56,920
Oh, so he's just like popping in and out of dimensions here and there.
824
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:03,720
That's so weird because do you remember me saying that in every iteration of you, in every
825
00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:07,280
dimension, I think you're attracted to Plano Man?
826
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,280
Yeah.
827
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,800
Yeah, I do remember you saying that.
828
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,320
I was like, oh, it's interesting.
829
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,320
She brings up other dimensions.
830
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:14,320
Yeah.
831
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,120
Interesting choice of word.
832
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:24,360
A few people see him before having like, Promenicians or before seeing other things like Bigfoot or UFOs.
833
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,360
Really?
834
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:26,360
Yeah.
835
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:27,360
That's interesting.
836
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:28,840
It is really interesting.
837
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:34,720
And this is where we trip and fall right into a high-strangeness hole and pop out and
838
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:36,480
point pleasant West Virginia.
839
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:37,480
Oh.
840
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:42,800
And for anyone who doesn't know, point pleasant West Virginia is where the Mothman prophecies
841
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,280
takes place.
842
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,280
Okay.
843
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:52,440
So this book/movie, shout out Richard Gehr, talks about a lot of other strange things besides
844
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:53,960
just Mothman.
845
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:54,960
Okay.
846
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,600
And one of the stories in this book/movie, actually, I don't know if it's in the movie, I've
847
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,720
never actually seen the movie.
848
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:02,720
I will watch it.
849
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:03,720
What's this movie?
850
00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:05,240
The Mothman prophecies.
851
00:37:05,240 --> 00:37:06,240
Oh, okay.
852
00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:07,240
Okay.
853
00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:08,240
It's true.
854
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:11,960
It's a true story about this man looking into all these strange things.
855
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:12,960
One of them is Mothman.
856
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:13,960
Okay.
857
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,160
And a lot of other strange things happen around it, basically.
858
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:18,160
Okay.
859
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:19,160
Okay.
860
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,960
Richard Gehr is in the movie.
861
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,000
And Richard Gehr is also there.
862
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,280
It's not a rom-com.
863
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:32,240
So one of the stories in the Mothman prophecies is about someone waking up at night.
864
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:36,560
I think it was a, I think this was a child.
865
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:43,520
And seeing a tall, checkered shirt man, he was staring.
866
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,320
And they couldn't make out the facial features very well.
867
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,520
No, thank you.
868
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:53,320
Other than a very large grin on his face.
869
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,320
Okay.
870
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,160
Well, that's just, it's rude.
871
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:02,400
So we have another grinning, flannel, assumedly.
872
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:07,000
They say a checkered shirt, but a checkered plaid, basically the same thing.
873
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,000
Yeah, yeah.
874
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,600
We have another grinning flannel man.
875
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:11,600
Like, what?
876
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:12,600
Okay.
877
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,800
That is so weird.
878
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,880
And this is a completely different story from like the mother and daughter who woke up
879
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,440
at the same time, seeing the same grinning flannel man.
880
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,040
Like this has happened a long time ago.
881
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,240
So it's interesting.
882
00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:33,960
And it's even more weird just to me personally because I've had this show called Hellier, which
883
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,560
is like, it's a documentary about all this like high-strangeness stuff, kind of like the
884
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:39,560
Mothman prophecies.
885
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:40,560
Yeah.
886
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:45,560
It's a huge thread of like connection with the Mothman prophecies in the show that I've
887
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:50,920
been like binging and like it's been like my comfort background as I'm writing this.
888
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,680
So I was like, oh, that's like kind of weird.
889
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:58,800
And then so now I just feel like I'm so close to being initiated into something.
890
00:38:58,800 --> 00:38:59,800
Something.
891
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:00,800
Something's happening.
892
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:01,800
You're on the verge.
893
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:06,240
I'm on the synchronicity path.
894
00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:07,240
It's taken me somewhere.
895
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:10,240
I don't know where it's taken me, but stay tuned.
896
00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:14,240
There's a really good chance I might snap this in half.
897
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:21,440
I feel like I'm about to lose Caitlin on all this really, really deep, weird stuff.
898
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,440
So we'll keep it light.
899
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,800
And that's for all in all of that for now.
900
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:30,600
But you guys, if you're interested in any of that, like that shit runs deep, like, yeah.
901
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:36,920
It's really interesting, but it does immediately kind of, it puts like the, gives you the tingles,
902
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,800
like the fighting senses, your hackles are going up.
903
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,800
A little bit weird stuff.
904
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,400
Hopefully I don't drag you down the hole with me.
905
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,920
I mean, I think it's a little too late for that.
906
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:55,200
You're like holding on to the edge and I'm holding you like, you're like pitch like
907
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,200
oh, my leg.
908
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:01,040
I don't want anything to do with it.
909
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:07,840
So all of this made me think of my weird Oregon book, which if you see the cover right
910
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:15,520
now on YouTube or Patreon, oh boy, has a picture of a giant Paul Bunions statue on the front
911
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,280
and he is wearing a red and white checker shirt.
912
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,880
He sure is in this book.
913
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:26,480
They have a chapter titled Bunions of the Beaver State.
914
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:27,480
That's hilarious.
915
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:28,480
I know.
916
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,480
Bunions of the Beaver State.
917
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,480
Wow.
918
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:34,480
That's a lot of bunions.
919
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:43,280
Well, yeah, I mean, it's a little bit of a double-on-pound.
920
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:48,920
But they talk about these two Paul Bunions statues that are in Oregon and they don't have
921
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,600
anything to do with Bunions on your feet.
922
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,640
They're Paul Bunions.
923
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:59,400
The very first giant hunk of Paul Bunion fiberglass was made in Venice, California for a
924
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,080
cafe in Flagstaff, Arizona.
925
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,160
The same mold was used to create muffler men.
926
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:13,720
They are these giant dude statues, like these Paul Bunions statues.
927
00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:15,200
They weren't just lumberjacks.
928
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:20,960
They were like many other various manly man figures.
929
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,440
They were at car shops or muffler shops.
930
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,400
I don't know if they were like a muffler shops or a Michelin man.
931
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:31,600
No, I'm kind of like that, but they're called the muffler men and they are supposed to
932
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:37,760
draw people into like get their mufflers muff for what other car things happen at car places.
933
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:38,760
I don't know.
934
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,560
Get your mufflers muffler.
935
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,640
You're going to get your mufflers muffed.
936
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:48,040
The first one was a lumberjack that they were all various different types of manzes.
937
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,040
Giant manzes.
938
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,840
I'm going to look at that a little bit more later.
939
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:52,840
Just go ahead and open it.
940
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:53,840
Did you see any?
941
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,680
They're just giant men statues.
942
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:57,680
Okay.
943
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,280
The 60s, am I right?
944
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,120
They were a time.
945
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:10,720
Grandspass Oregon still has a giant Paul Bunions statue in front of the cedarwood saloon.
946
00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:12,320
I don't know if he's still there.
947
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:17,800
The last picture I saw was on Facebook in 2017.
948
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,200
He was looking a little rough.
949
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,280
His face is all chipped and stuff.
950
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:24,720
I don't know if he's still there.
951
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:27,360
I was just going to say if anyone lives there, it knows.
952
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:28,360
Send us a picture.
953
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,360
Yeah.
954
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:38,000
In the 90s, someone was upset with the new owners and they pulled this poor Paul down with
955
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,840
a truck and then drug him across the street.
956
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,640
Oh, I know.
957
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,760
Oh, no.
958
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,800
And then since then, I feel like he's been a little cursed.
959
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:50,800
Okay.
960
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,120
Cars have run into him.
961
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,640
He's been shot with BB guns.
962
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,360
Oh my gosh.
963
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,360
And one fateful wind storm.
964
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,000
He was decapitated.
965
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,000
Oh my God.
966
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,840
So somehow they got his head back on.
967
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:08,840
Super glue.
968
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:09,840
I guess so.
969
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:10,840
Yeah.
970
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,720
So I don't know who knows if he hasn't just completely fallen apart.
971
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:16,000
But it's time to give up the ghost.
972
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,000
Yeah.
973
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,000
Poor guy.
974
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,000
Poor Paul.
975
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,000
Poor Paulie.
976
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,840
Getting decapitated and shit.
977
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,640
That's rough.
978
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,280
This is one of my random thoughts in here too.
979
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:32,360
Like what if all the flannum and spirits are of abused Paul Bunyan statues?
980
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,360
That's kind of freaky.
981
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,360
I'm not going to lie.
982
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,360
That's why they're all so tall.
983
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,840
Yeah, I guess that would make sense.
984
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:47,440
But this guy on the front, they say that he's probably pretty happy.
985
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,200
Like look at this big old grin.
986
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,760
He has on his face.
987
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,080
Very creepy.
988
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,320
He's grinning.
989
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,320
Yeah.
990
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,920
He's the grinning flannel man.
991
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,880
He is in downtown Portland, Oregon.
992
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:09,240
This Paul Bunyan statue was made for Oregon's 100th birthday to honor the timber industry.
993
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:12,720
Shout out to Ralph.
994
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:13,720
Ralph Ralph Reigns.
995
00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:14,720
Yes.
996
00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:15,720
Junior.
997
00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:16,720
Ralph.
998
00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:17,720
Yeah.
999
00:44:17,720 --> 00:44:18,720
Ralph Jr.
1000
00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:19,720
Ralph Jr.
1001
00:44:19,720 --> 00:44:20,720
That was such a good episode.
1002
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:21,720
Yeah.
1003
00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:22,720
That was a good one.
1004
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:23,720
Awful.
1005
00:44:23,720 --> 00:44:24,720
But like he's so sweet.
1006
00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:28,640
Both of the timber heirs that we've talked about because the other is obviously the warehouse
1007
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:29,640
or kids.
1008
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:30,640
It's like, woof.
1009
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:31,640
That's a little.
1010
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:32,640
Yeah.
1011
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:33,960
They're both a little dark.
1012
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:41,120
So they placed him near the border to Washington as a little, hey girl, welcome in.
1013
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:46,120
And they did move him about 50 feet from his original spot to make way for like the trains
1014
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,120
and shit.
1015
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,120
Okay.
1016
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:49,120
Yeah.
1017
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,120
I mean, as the city grows, yeah, I'm excited.
1018
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,120
I'm going to move some stuff.
1019
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,960
But he's not too far.
1020
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,560
He was directly across from the Dancin’ Bare Strip Club.
1021
00:44:58,560 --> 00:44:59,560
And that's B-A-R-E.
1022
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,920
Not like a dancing bear.
1023
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:09,240
I feel like if you really want to be on brand though, bear, you know, B-E-A-R.
1024
00:45:09,240 --> 00:45:10,240
Yeah.
1025
00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:11,720
That's true.
1026
00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaking of Strip Club's titties.
1027
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,520
Today's.
1028
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,120
I was very on theme.
1029
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:23,920
But from a quick little Goog map search, it looks like the Dancin' Bare is now closed.
1030
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:24,920
To COVID.
1031
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,720
Oh, I know.
1032
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:29,520
From the COVID shutdown, they just couldn't recover, you know?
1033
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,520
Yeah.
1034
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:31,520
Yeah.
1035
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:32,480
Yeah, that kind of sucks.
1036
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,920
So he was like really happy for a while looking over all the strippers.
1037
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:36,920
But now I don't know.
1038
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,960
Maybe his grin is slowly turning into a frown.
1039
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,680
Well, to go visit him.
1040
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,680
I don't know that I've ever seen this.
1041
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:46,680
Yeah.
1042
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:47,680
I think I have it.
1043
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,000
I'm trying to place it.
1044
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,960
And it's like iconography in my head.
1045
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:52,960
Yeah.
1046
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:53,960
I see it.
1047
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,760
I feel like I've actually seen it in person.
1048
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:58,760
Maybe I've seen it.
1049
00:45:58,760 --> 00:45:59,760
I don't know.
1050
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:00,760
Yeah.
1051
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:01,760
I...
1052
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:08,160
Maybe the fact that we can't remember if we've seen it is like something weird happening.
1053
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:09,160
Something.
1054
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,160
It's...
1055
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,440
Oh, it's something.
1056
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:13,440
It's something.
1057
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,160
We'll have to go find him next time we're down there.
1058
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,160
All right.
1059
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:21,040
Well, you know, we're, you know, we make other plans.
1060
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:25,360
Things happen and, you know, you have a couple drinks and suddenly you're just, you know,
1061
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:26,360
not doing that.
1062
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,600
But look how he smiles.
1063
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,920
This also kind of made me think of like we've talked about a couple different lumberjack
1064
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:32,920
ghosts.
1065
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:37,360
I feel like in some of our episodes, I think Lithia Park had a lumberjack.
1066
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:38,360
Yeah.
1067
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:43,280
I don't know if it was the St. Helens one where the lumberjack was just like sitting in
1068
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,880
a booth at the restaurant.
1069
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,480
That sounds like maybe I'm one of those.
1070
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,000
Lithia Park for sure.
1071
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,000
Yeah.
1072
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:57,760
Like that rings a bell for me and I remember that, but I don't know, I can't say for sure about
1073
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:58,760
which other one.
1074
00:46:58,760 --> 00:46:59,760
Yeah.
1075
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,280
I think it was the St. Helens one where we talked about that restaurant.
1076
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,280
But yeah.
1077
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,200
Someone, you know, go listen to all of our episodes and correct me.
1078
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,200
Yeah.
1079
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:09,200
Please.
1080
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,200
No big deal.
1081
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:11,200
Have your friends listen.
1082
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:17,520
So I want to kind of end this with a little funny Reddit thread here.
1083
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:18,520
Okay.
1084
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:19,520
Very short.
1085
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:20,760
Just a couple of comments.
1086
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:28,440
So the OP says, has anyone had a sighting sloshing counter with the flannel shirt man and
1087
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:33,000
suspended account extrasandwich232. suspended.
1088
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,000
Oh.
1089
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:40,400
So you guys, I don't know if you know when you copy and paste this, it shows you that this
1090
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:45,680
account, it like copies in suspended account next to the name.
1091
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:46,680
So I thought that was interesting.
1092
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,680
Otherwise, I probably wouldn't have known.
1093
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:49,680
Yeah.
1094
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:50,680
That is interesting.
1095
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,400
But I thought that was funny just because of what they say next.
1096
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:54,400
So yeah.
1097
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:55,400
Quote.
1098
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,000
I saw the flannel shirt man come out of my ex's house once.
1099
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,440
She said he haunts her a few times a week.
1100
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,040
Is that why she's next?
1101
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,040
What?
1102
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:10,680
I feel like she might just be cheating on you with a lumberjack.
1103
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,280
Well, that's that's a possibility.
1104
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:14,280
Yeah.
1105
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,520
She wants me to see you in a few times a week.
1106
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:17,520
Yeah.
1107
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:22,800
If you spend any time on Reddit, a lot of cheating stories there.
1108
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:23,800
Yeah.
1109
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,400
On, on, am I the asshole?
1110
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,400
Yeah.
1111
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,400
A lot of them there.
1112
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:28,720
A-I-T-A.
1113
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:34,040
There was another comment from, it's like bbybluecheese83.
1114
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:38,080
So I'm like, baby blue cheese 83 is how I read it in my head.
1115
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,360
Only in the 90s with it tied around his waist.
1116
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,360
I feel so attacked right now.
1117
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,440
Wait, they're just, they're, because they're saying has anyone seen flannel shirt man and
1118
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,200
they're like only in the 90s with it tied around his waist.
1119
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:52,200
Uh-huh.
1120
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:53,200
Okay.
1121
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,200
Okay.
1122
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:55,200
Yeah.
1123
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,080
Kind of surprising, not really surprising.
1124
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:03,640
I had this very flannel shirt tied around my waist last night.
1125
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:08,480
I was flannel man in Portland last night.
1126
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,080
I went downtown to the underhill haunted house.
1127
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:13,080
Yeah, you did.
1128
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:14,080
By myself.
1129
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,080
Yeah.
1130
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,160
All alone.
1131
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:23,200
If you missed it, we had them come on for an interview that was a bonus a few weeks ago.
1132
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,320
By now it's past Halloween now.
1133
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,120
So they're not open anymore.
1134
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:32,320
But they did give me like a lights on backstage tour.
1135
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,320
Very cool.
1136
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,880
And then I went through the haunted house and I did it by myself.
1137
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,360
I did everything alone.
1138
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:39,360
Yeah.
1139
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:40,360
Which was an experience.
1140
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,560
Um, yeah, I can imagine.
1141
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,800
I'll share that experience with the Patreon.
1142
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:49,680
I did do like a little recording of me walking through.
1143
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,880
I have a lot of recordings of like the backstage of them doing makeup.
1144
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,440
So yeah, we'll do a nice little Patreon bonus about that.
1145
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,800
And I also wanted to tease you a little bit because only Patreon will get to know about
1146
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:07,920
something very, very cool and very special that happened while I was there.
1147
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,480
And I like, I totally fan-girled so hard.
1148
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,120
It was like embarrassing how fan-girly I got over this.
1149
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:15,120
Really?
1150
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,440
Super secret detail that I'll share with the Patreon and the bonus.
1151
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:19,440
Oh my God.
1152
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:20,440
Look at my face.
1153
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,640
I don't want to, but me too, right?
1154
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:24,640
Like you'll tell me.
1155
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,080
Of course I'll tell you.
1156
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:27,080
You won't care.
1157
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:28,080
Oh, okay.
1158
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,080
Um, I want to know.
1159
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,080
I want to know.
1160
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,080
You'll get to know.
1161
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:35,080
Okay.
1162
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,240
So yeah, if you guys want to know, join our Patreon.
1163
00:50:37,240 --> 00:50:41,840
If you have any flannel man stories, please feel free to share them with us.
1164
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:48,160
But also please send them to the Strange Familiars podcast so that they can like get all of these
1165
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:52,240
stories collect them off for their book that they're going to write because they're doing
1166
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:54,240
like a whole like anthology.
1167
00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:55,240
Yeah.
1168
00:50:55,240 --> 00:50:56,240
Yeah.
1169
00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:59,040
And I want this book so like I feel like they need more stories.
1170
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:00,040
Yeah.
1171
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,520
But also send them to us so that we can make them a creepy people chronicles, you know?
1172
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:04,520
Obviously.
1173
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:05,520
What's our email?
1174
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,520
pnwhauntsandhomicides@gmail.com.
1175
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:08,520
Oh yeah.
1176
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:09,840
Well, do you want to do some tarot?
1177
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:10,840
Do we do some tarot?
1178
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:11,840
Yeah, let's do tarot.
1179
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:12,840
Let's do some tarot.
1180
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,640
Land on man tarot.
1181
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:15,640
All right.
1182
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,400
What type of rigana use?
1183
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:18,400
I don't know.
1184
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,080
I brought my mushroom oracle.
1185
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:24,320
Ooh, I feel like that feels like a feels appropriate.
1186
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,000
It's feeling naturey.
1187
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,000
Yeah.
1188
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:32,800
Yeah, I was going to say unless you have one that you specifically have chosen, we can
1189
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:33,800
always do the PNW.
1190
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,440
I know you, but I think the mushroom that feels right.
1191
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:38,440
I think so too.
1192
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:39,440
Yeah.
1193
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:40,440
Let's do some oracle.
1194
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:41,440
Let's do it.
1195
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:42,440
All right.
1196
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:43,440
We're at the tarot.
1197
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:54,280
I'm going to get my butt back out of my seat and go draw a card from the altar.
1198
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,440
I have a mouse spread out there.
1199
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,480
My mushroom oracle deck.
1200
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:00,680
What you get?
1201
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,920
I got the Amethyst Deceiver.
1202
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:05,920
Oh.
1203
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,320
It means deception.
1204
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,820
Deception.
1205
00:52:09,820 --> 00:52:14,520
And I will get my little interpretation booklet from my computer real quick.
1206
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:15,520
Okay.
1207
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:16,520
Number four.
1208
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,000
Should I read us some mushroom bags?
1209
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,000
Oh, yeah, sure.
1210
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,960
Well, they might give us some in the interpretation.
1211
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:24,960
Okay.
1212
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:25,960
I'll let you go first then.
1213
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:26,960
Okay.
1214
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:27,960
I just was trying to vamp.
1215
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:28,960
Yeah, I don't know.
1216
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,120
Some time to pull that up.
1217
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,760
I want to know the mushroom facts for sure.
1218
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:34,760
Okay.
1219
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:35,760
It's on page 48.
1220
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,240
All right.
1221
00:52:37,240 --> 00:52:39,800
It's actually a pretty sizable mushroom.
1222
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,000
Does it look purpley in these pictures online?
1223
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,000
It does.
1224
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,000
Well, it's named Amethyst.
1225
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:46,600
It like has to be.
1226
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:47,600
Yeah.
1227
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:48,600
Okay.
1228
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:55,240
So it is edible, though, can contain high levels of arsenic if present in the soil.
1229
00:52:55,240 --> 00:52:56,240
Oh, interesting.
1230
00:52:56,240 --> 00:53:00,000
So like if there's arsenic in the soil, it'll like absorb it up.
1231
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,000
Yeah.
1232
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,000
Yeah.
1233
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,080
Which I think would be true of like most plants.
1234
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:11,720
Well, I mean, maybe not most plants because I feel like not all plants will absorb certain
1235
00:53:11,720 --> 00:53:15,560
nutrients, but or different things present in the soil.
1236
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,080
Is arsenic a nutrient?
1237
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,600
Well, yeah.
1238
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:25,840
But just generally speaking, I think, you know, I'm, I'm no my callogist, but.
1239
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:30,920
And I need to learn how to like pronounce the name, like the actual names of these.
1240
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:31,920
Lacaria, Amethystina.
1241
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,720
I was probably pretty close.
1242
00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:35,720
Yeah.
1243
00:53:35,720 --> 00:53:36,720
I think it sounds.
1244
00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:37,720
Yeah.
1245
00:53:37,720 --> 00:53:38,720
Lacaria.
1246
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:39,720
Lacaria.
1247
00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:40,720
Yeah.
1248
00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:41,720
Do you want me to look for pronunciation?
1249
00:53:41,720 --> 00:53:42,720
If you want.
1250
00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:43,720
Okay.
1251
00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:44,720
Why not?
1252
00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:45,720
Why not, you know?
1253
00:53:45,720 --> 00:53:46,720
Why not a fuck not?
1254
00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:47,720
Yeah.
1255
00:53:47,720 --> 00:53:48,720
So how you said it?
1256
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:49,720
Okay.
1257
00:53:49,720 --> 00:53:50,720
Pretty close.
1258
00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:51,720
I wasn't way off.
1259
00:53:51,720 --> 00:53:52,720
Yeah.
1260
00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:53,720
No, you were right on the money.
1261
00:53:53,720 --> 00:53:54,720
Okay.
1262
00:53:54,720 --> 00:54:00,000
So I found in leaf litter in woodlands and under beach trees.
1263
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:06,640
The Amethyst deceiver is an amazing violet color, which during wet weather will show a deep
1264
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:07,640
purple.
1265
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:08,640
It's very pretty.
1266
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:09,640
Yeah.
1267
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:13,680
Two others are purple, flannel, and not that we know of.
1268
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,280
Not yet.
1269
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:23,080
During dry weather, when it mature, when it matures, as we mature, the cap changes to a very
1270
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:31,080
pale, almost white color, making this mushroom look similar to the other mushrooms that can
1271
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,080
be poisonous.
1272
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:34,080
Interesting.
1273
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,080
So I thought that was interesting.
1274
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:36,080
It's a deceiver.
1275
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:37,080
Yeah.
1276
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,080
Yeah.
1277
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:44,960
But it looks similar to something like a human, but isn't like it's deceiving you.
1278
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:45,960
Big old faker, baker.
1279
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:47,760
You're not all on Bajak.
1280
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:48,760
Yeah.
1281
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:55,480
I found a picture that it shows when the mushroom cap sort of flattens out.
1282
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,320
And it has sort of a depression in the center.
1283
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,560
It looks like sort of like a little kind of looks like a bubble.
1284
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:05,240
Oh, I like bubbles.
1285
00:55:05,240 --> 00:55:10,280
And that's it typically appears as the center of the cap, like kind of as it as it all flattens
1286
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:11,280
out.
1287
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,280
Oh, interesting.
1288
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:13,280
Interesting.
1289
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:14,280
Was there any more facts?
1290
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:15,840
I think that was it for kind of like the facts.
1291
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,040
We're going to go into the card meaning after that.
1292
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:19,040
Okay.
1293
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,040
Yeah.
1294
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:29,480
So average mushroom height, four to six centimeters average cap width, 1.5 to five.
1295
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:34,680
So it's not like a huge is it longer than normal?
1296
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,360
Is it a longer mushroom?
1297
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,360
Yeah.
1298
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,360
It's also found in the UK.
1299
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,360
Oh, which I thought was interesting.
1300
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:50,560
It's interesting because like I didn't originally add in the UK because I think there was just like
1301
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:51,800
one story.
1302
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:57,400
But then because of your not burberry scarf, I added the UK.
1303
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:58,400
Yeah.
1304
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:03,080
I'm scrolling through because I did notice a couple of different things.
1305
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:04,560
Just sort of like fun facts.
1306
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:09,760
And this is a UK based website actually.
1307
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,240
So they've got some really cool pictures of it.
1308
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:17,080
So it grows in coniferous and deciduous forests.
1309
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:23,520
When young, it's a distinctive, deep purple color, but it's bright color fades with age and
1310
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,720
weathering making it difficult to identify.
1311
00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:29,520
I guess that's pretty much what you already said.
1312
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,000
This is interesting though, but yeah.
1313
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,320
The color changes kind of like the with the philonym and shirt.
1314
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:36,320
Yeah.
1315
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,560
Maybe as he ages, he changes different to different colored shirts.
1316
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,560
I mean, maybe.
1317
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,600
It's a bit of a spewing nonsense at this point.
1318
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:49,720
Although edible, it looks similar to the poisonous lilac fiber cap.
1319
00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:58,840
So now we know what it, like what it's poisonous, at least one of the poisonous counterparts,
1320
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,360
what that is and what it looks like.
1321
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,760
I don't know if you saw any pictures that show sort of the underside of the mushroom.
1322
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,200
That's where they call it like the gills.
1323
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,000
Oh, yeah, the gills.
1324
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,000
They're purple too.
1325
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:19,000
Because if you think of like that sort of traditional red toadish, it's like red on one
1326
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:23,400
side and then the underside is kind of a off white.
1327
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:28,480
This one, it's like a lighter purple on the underside maybe, but it's like the purple
1328
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,480
carries through like the whole mushroom.
1329
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,880
Like even the stem has a purple hue.
1330
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,040
It shows it in the little picture on the card.
1331
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:41,720
Like it shows the from under view and then it also shows like a top of a shorter one.
1332
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:47,240
So you could see like that little poke butthole that you were talking about all the time.
1333
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,520
They look so strange in some of these pictures.
1334
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:55,680
I'm going to send you this one because it's like the early, early stage.
1335
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:56,680
It's super cute.
1336
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,280
Oh, it's so cute.
1337
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:00,280
Yeah.
1338
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,080
It just looks so weird.
1339
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:08,560
It's like purple thing coming out of these brown leaves like the sticky wet dirty forest.
1340
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,520
Obviously it's not a very large mushroom.
1341
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:17,520
It's super tiny in that shop because it's like very, that looks like very beginning stages
1342
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,960
but it kind of looks like a dick.
1343
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,720
Not gonna lie.
1344
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:25,640
I found a couple of pictures where I was like that is legitimately a penis.
1345
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,560
Ah, penis mushrooms.
1346
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:28,560
Alright.
1347
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,800
So I'll let you get into it.
1348
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,400
Let's get into this card meaning here.
1349
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:41,200
It says the deceiver mushroom comes to let you know that things may not be what they seem.
1350
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:42,200
Okay.
1351
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:43,200
Okay.
1352
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,920
Say more because I kind of felt like that went without saying.
1353
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:53,240
But it's just interesting to like see it because he comes to you and like some people see
1354
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,880
him before like really like high-strangeness things happen.
1355
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:57,880
So yeah.
1356
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,880
Yeah.
1357
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,520
That was just interesting to me that's like the first sentence of this card.
1358
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:09,120
You may be seeing things the wrong way or there is deceit of some kind appearing before
1359
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:10,760
you.
1360
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,720
Not all deceit is bad.
1361
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,240
Oh, okay.
1362
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,800
It can be a blessing in disguise.
1363
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,880
It may not be a conscious thing.
1364
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,720
Are you deceiving yourself about something?
1365
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:26,880
Are you not allowing yourself to see what is right in front of you because you haven't
1366
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,160
taken the time to truly see it?
1367
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:30,160
Yeah.
1368
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,600
Like maybe if you wake up in the middle of the night and there's a man in flannel at the
1369
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:39,600
end of your bed and you snap your eyes back closed and just hope that it'll go away.
1370
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:40,600
Yeah.
1371
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:41,600
I mean, yeah.
1372
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,280
Usually he just like disappears though right in front of your eyes.
1373
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:45,600
So that's kind of interesting.
1374
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:46,600
I don't know.
1375
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:50,920
If you like weren't scared or anything and you just kept looking at him like would he
1376
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:51,920
stay?
1377
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1378
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:55,240
Stay there.
1379
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:56,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1380
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:57,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1381
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:58,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1382
00:59:58,240 --> 00:59:59,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1383
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:00,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1384
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:01,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1385
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:02,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1386
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:03,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1387
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:04,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1388
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:05,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1389
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:06,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1390
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:07,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1391
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:08,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1392
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:09,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1393
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:10,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1394
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:11,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1395
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:12,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1396
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:13,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1397
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:14,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1398
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:15,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1399
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:16,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1400
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:17,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1401
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:18,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1402
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:19,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1403
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:20,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1404
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:21,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1405
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:22,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1406
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:23,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1407
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:24,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1408
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:25,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1409
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:26,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1410
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:27,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1411
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:28,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1412
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:29,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1413
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:30,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1414
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:31,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1415
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:32,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1416
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:33,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1417
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:34,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1418
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:35,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1419
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:36,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1420
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:37,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1421
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:38,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1422
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:39,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1423
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:40,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1424
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:41,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1425
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:42,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1426
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:43,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1427
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:44,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1428
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:45,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1429
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:46,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1430
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:47,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1431
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:48,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1432
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:49,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1433
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:50,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1434
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:51,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1435
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:52,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1436
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:53,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1437
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:54,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1438
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:55,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1439
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:56,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1440
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:57,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1441
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:58,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1442
01:00:58,240 --> 01:00:59,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1443
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:00,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1444
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:01,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1445
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:02,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1446
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:03,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1447
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:04,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1448
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:05,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1449
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:06,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1450
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:07,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1451
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:08,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1452
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:09,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1453
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:10,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1454
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:11,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1455
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:12,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1456
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:13,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1457
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:14,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1458
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:15,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1459
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:16,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1460
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:17,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1461
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:18,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1462
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:19,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1463
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:20,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1464
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:21,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1465
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:22,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1466
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:23,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1467
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:24,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1468
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:25,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1469
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:26,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1470
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:27,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1471
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:28,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1472
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:29,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1473
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:30,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1474
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:31,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1475
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:32,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1476
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:33,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1477
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:34,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1478
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:35,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1479
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:36,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1480
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:37,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1481
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:38,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1482
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:39,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1483
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:40,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1484
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:41,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1485
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:42,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1486
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:43,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1487
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:44,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1488
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:45,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1489
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:46,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1490
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:47,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1491
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:48,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1492
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:49,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1493
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:50,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1494
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:51,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1495
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:52,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1496
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:53,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1497
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:54,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1498
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:55,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1499
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1500
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:58,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1501
01:01:58,240 --> 01:01:59,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1502
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:00,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1503
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1504
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:02,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1505
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:03,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1506
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:04,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1507
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:05,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1508
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:06,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1509
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:07,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1510
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:08,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1511
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:09,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1512
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:10,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1513
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:11,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1514
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:12,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1515
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:13,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1516
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:14,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1517
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:15,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1518
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:16,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1519
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:17,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1520
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:18,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1521
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:19,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1522
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:20,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1523
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:21,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1524
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:22,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1525
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:23,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1526
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:24,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1527
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:25,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1528
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:26,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1529
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:27,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1530
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:28,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1531
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:29,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1532
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:30,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1533
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:31,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1534
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:32,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1535
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:33,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1536
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:34,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1537
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:35,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1538
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:36,240
I'm sure there are stories like that.
1539
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:40,240
Are we going to speak in riddles?
1540
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:41,240
Basically.
1541
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:42,240
Obviously.
1542
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:46,240
When things appear to be one thing, but are actually another,
1543
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:47,240
your intuition will know.
1544
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,240
Clearly, it does.
1545
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,240
Your intuition is your soul.
1546
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,240
I must say, soup, your soup compass.
1547
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,240
Your intuition is your soul compass.
1548
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,240
Trust it implicitly.
1549
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:02,240
Well, it is soup season as we briefly discussed earlier.
1550
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:06,240
You got to get muzzboone.
1551
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:07,240
Soup season.
1552
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:10,240
Soup season less cheers because we actually can without bumping shit.
1553
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:11,240
So smooth.
1554
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,240
Was it cute in the camera?
1555
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:14,240
I think so.
1556
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:15,240
You guys, was it cute?
1557
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:16,240
Was it cute?
1558
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:17,240
Look at us.
1559
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:18,240
Are we cute?
1560
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:19,240
If you don't think we are, don't tell us.
1561
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:20,240
Yeah, maybe just cute.
1562
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:21,240
Yeah, just cute.
1563
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:26,240
Sometimes assumptions are made about people or situations.
1564
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:30,240
And this can come from a limited understanding or lack of interest
1565
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,240
in really getting to know more.
1566
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:36,240
Take the time to really observe and research the situation
1567
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,240
until you are 100% sure of what you're looking at.
1568
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,240
Don't let looks be deceiving.
1569
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:42,240
Interesting.
1570
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:48,240
That is so interesting because of the fact that there is this other podcast
1571
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:52,240
totally diving deep and researching this whole thing, trying to figure out what it is.
1572
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:59,240
I went hardcore on listening to every single episode to go deep on this reason.
1573
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:00,240
I went deep on this research.
1574
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:04,240
I probably didn't really need to go that deep on, but I can't help it.
1575
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,240
Well, you were down the rabbit hole.
1576
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,240
Well, down the rabbit hole.
1577
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:12,240
That was a really good card for this one, I think.
1578
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:13,240
Yeah, it was.
1579
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:14,240
Good decision.
1580
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:15,240
Yeah.
1581
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:20,240
So weird that it brought up every single question and things that we were talking about.
1582
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:21,240
Yeah, it really did.
1583
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:22,240
Really did.
1584
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:23,240
Really did.
1585
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,240
I think we got what we needed from this one.
1586
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:27,240
Yeah, we did.
1587
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:30,240
Should we do the thing that we do?
1588
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:31,240
Yeah, probably.
1589
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:32,240
Okay.
1590
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,240
Have a previous day.
1591
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,240
We'll see you next Tuesday.
1592
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:38,240
We'll see you next Tuesday.
1593
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:39,240
We're in the forest.
1594
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,240
Or in your bedroom.
1595
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:42,240
Yeah.
1596
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,240
Standing by your bed, staring at you.
1597
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:46,240
Gichoflannel.
1598
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:47,240
Gichoflannel.
1599
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:51,240
Or your oversized European scarf.
1600
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:56,240
I wonder if wearing a panel would deter a panel man from showing up to you?
1601
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,240
He's like, oh, I'm already here.
1602
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:05,240
Or yeah, the deception thing, like seeing another mushroom that looks like you, but it's not.
1603
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:09,240
So I'm just going to take this and I'm just going to turn it into a night out.
1604
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:10,240
Yes, yes.
1605
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,240
You know, that's what this is now.
1606
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,240
Always sleep and flood from now on.
1607
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:15,240
Alrighty.
1608
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:16,240
We solved it.
1609
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:17,240
Did it.
1610
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,240
Asked and answered.
1611
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:21,240
Plenal man.
1612
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:29,240
Plenal man.
1613
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:30,240
What is it?
1614
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:31,240
It's fall, y'all.
1615
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,240
Oh, it's corn.
1616
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:34,240
It's corn.
1617
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:35,240
It's corn.
1618
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,240
It's a big lump of knobs and it does have the juice.
1619
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:39,240
It does have the juice.
1620
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:40,240
So funny.
1621
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:44,040
So at my job, there's like a puppy and she has this corn.
1622
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,600
It's like a giant rubber corn and just loves it.
1623
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:51,200
And every single time I see that fucking thing, I'm just like, it has the juice.
1624
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,200
I can't not say it.
1625
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:57,200
So anyway, no, you're not a monster.
1626
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,200
Corn is fall, beamed.
1627
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:00,200
Yeah.
1628
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,200
So that totally fits in with this episode.
1629
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:02,200
We don't have to cut it out.
1630
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,200
No, not at all. pnwhauntsandhomicides@.com
