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Dec. 19, 2023

Santa’s Shadow: Krampus Unleashed on Leavenworth

Santa’s Shadow: Krampus Unleashed on Leavenworth

Ready to celebrate the holiday season with a spooky twist? Join us as we journey to the https://leavenworth.org/christmastown, a place we fell in love with for its festive charm and authentic German offerings. From its quaint shops to the locally...

Ready to celebrate the holiday season with a spooky twist? Join us as we journey to the Bavarian village of Leavenworth, Washington, a place we fell in love with for its festive charm and authentic German offerings. From its quaint shops to the locally brewed beers, there's so much to love in this enchanting village, but we can’t ignore the dark side of Bavarian holiday traditions.

Get ready to meet Krampus, the demonic counterpart to St. Nicholas, as we dig deep into the vivid folklore surrounding this curious creature. We unpack the history, the controversies, the unique traditions, and the evolution of Krampus from a banned entity to a symbol of the eternal duel between good and evil. And yes, we'll talk about how Krampus Seattle troupe was NOT invited back to Leavenworth for Krampusnacht celebrations!

Wrapping up our holiday special, we'll reveal the spooky surprises and delightful gifts we've received from our listeners - your generosity has warmed our hearts! But it's not just about receiving; we've been busy creating Christmas cards for our Patreon supporters. You won't want to miss our reflections on conspiracy theories related to tarot readings and some good old gift-opening fun! Join us for this festive episode filled with holiday cheer (and only a little fear), Pacific Northwest style. “Get Low” to the tune of “A Holly Jolly Christmas”


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1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,000 There's nothing like go-to-old fashion fear of being beaten or Krampus-napped to hell. 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:15,000 Yeah, there's there really is nothing quite like it. 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:21,720 So they combine the two icons both showing up at your place on December 5th, 4 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:26,200 Krampusnacht to either give you presents or you know the other stuff. 5 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:31,200 Krampus even started being referred to as Santa's Shadow. 6 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,200 Oh, yes. 7 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,200 Very spooky. 8 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:42,200 Ho ho ho, Caitlyn. 9 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,200 Ho ho ho, Cassie. 10 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,200 Ho ho ho, creepy people. 11 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,200 I kinda like that. 12 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,200 Hello. 13 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:58,200 If you're new to our creepy corner of the world, this is PNW, Haunts and Homicides, 14 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:04,200 where we chat about true crime, paranormal, and all things creepy and ho ho ho-y, 15 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,200 in the Pacific Northwest. 16 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,200 That's amazing. 17 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:15,200 We also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode for deeper insight into our topic for the week. 18 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,200 So make sure you stick around if you're into that. 19 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:24,200 Yes, and this week Cassie sounds sick, but she doesn't always. 20 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:25,200 True. 21 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:31,200 Well, today is, if you hadn't already guessed, a holiday themed episode. 22 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,200 Woo, woo, from the window to the walls. 23 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,200 Skeet, skeet. 24 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:43,200 I loved that video, Caitlyn, just showed me the funniest fucking video ever. 25 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,200 Yeah, we're gonna have to figure out how to share that. 26 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:47,200 We're just linking. 27 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,200 Yeah, we'll show notes too. 28 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,200 I love it. 29 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,200 Just in case. 30 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:52,200 Yeah. 31 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,200 If you don't follow us on the socials, what are you doing? 32 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,200 Yeah. 33 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,200 We're hilarious. 34 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:57,200 I agree. 35 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:04,200 I loved my stories about the dolls where I was like, it's one person's heaven and another person's hand. 36 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:05,200 It's very true. 37 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:16,200 I actually had a listener reach out and say they were house sitting somewhere and they were concerned about listening to that episode, you know. 38 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,200 I would be too. 39 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:22,200 All by themselves and I said, no, no, no, no, no, it's not that scary. 40 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,200 It wasn't that scary. 41 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:35,200 It wasn't that scary, but I guess, okay, so for the people who weren't editing it, there was a lot of weird sounds. 42 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,200 There were some shenanigans. 43 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:45,200 There were a lot of weird sounds and I know we were recording over the internet and they weren't using professional mics. 44 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,200 But there were some creepy shit in there. 45 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,200 I don't know what was happening, but mostly the editing took it out. 46 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,200 There was one that I couldn't take out. 47 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,200 It was like over her voice or under her voice. 48 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,200 It sounded like robotic. 49 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:58,200 It was really creepy. 50 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,200 So I don't know if anyone caught that. 51 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,200 Okay. 52 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:06,200 So Cassie was the one, I think, most scared by that episode. 53 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,200 And I love that for her. 54 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:09,200 Yeah. 55 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,200 In the end, I ended up being like, oh my god, I... 56 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,200 Is this editing over with "I'm sick of hearing EVPs"? 57 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,200 Oh my god. 58 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:22,200 Well anyway, today is a less scary topic. 59 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,200 Is this the holiday? 60 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,200 You know, we got to keep it light around here. 61 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:27,200 So... 62 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:28,200 All right. 63 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,200 Well, you know, also keeping it creepy. 64 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,200 We're baubles deep into December. 65 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:40,200 Feeling so festive with your little joke and then that song, it's just... 66 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,200 It went perfectly together. 67 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:43,200 It really did. 68 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,200 It really did. 69 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,200 Wow. 70 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,200 So as much as I love Halloween, we all know that's not a secret. 71 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:50,200 No. 72 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:57,200 And I have some issues with the religious aspect of Christmas. 73 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,200 You know, that's fair. 74 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:05,200 So I've kind of switched over to kind of more saying I celebrate like yuletide or winter solstice and that kind of thing. 75 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:14,200 But, you know, technically my whole family still celebrates Christmas and it does hold a little special place in my heart. 76 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,200 I grew up with it. 77 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,200 So, yeah. 78 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,200 It's kind of a magical time, magical season. 79 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,200 Very magical. 80 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,200 Especially when I can continue to watch Nightmare before Christmas. 81 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,200 Which I did last night. 82 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,200 Love it. 83 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:35,200 And Jack visiting Christmas Town is like my top favorite scenes in the movie. 84 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:36,200 You know that. 85 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,200 You've seen Nightmare before Christmas, right? 86 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:39,200 I have. 87 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,200 I have. 88 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:41,200 It's been quite a few years. 89 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:47,200 I've been thinking about it a lot this year that I should probably rewatch it. 90 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:48,200 You should. 91 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:49,200 Okay. 92 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,200 So he visits Christmas Town and he's like, what's this? 93 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:52,200 What's this? 94 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:57,200 He's, you know, he's never seen all the glittery snow and he's all excited and that's how he filled during Christmas. 95 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:02,200 Even though, you know, Halloween, I feel it more, I think. 96 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:03,200 Definitely Christmas. 97 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,200 Christmas is special. 98 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,200 It's warm. 99 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:07,200 Warm and fuzzy. 100 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:08,200 Warm and fuzzy. 101 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:13,200 Did you know that the Pacific Northwest has its very own Christmas town? 102 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:14,200 Yes. 103 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:15,200 Did you? 104 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:16,200 I did. 105 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,200 I didn't honestly before this. 106 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,200 I didn't. 107 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,200 I really did. 108 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,200 It has nothing to do with Nightmare before Christmas. 109 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,200 It's just, you know, they're both called Christmas Town. 110 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:32,200 So adorable, but it's still extremely magical. 111 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,200 And I think a quote from this locations website is in order. 112 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:37,200 Of course. 113 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:49,200 Leavenworth, Washington is a charming Bavarian village nestled in the picturesque Cascade Mountains known for its unique architectural style and festive atmosphere. 114 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:53,200 The village transports visitors to a quaint European setting. 115 00:05:53,200 --> 00:06:00,200 The town exudes a lively ambiance throughout the year with seasonal decorations and events. 116 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:06,200 Visitors can explore the village's charming shops and dine on Authentic German cuisine. 117 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,200 Sample locally brewed beers. 118 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,200 Very important. 119 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:10,200 Excellent. 120 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:16,200 And immerse themselves in the vibrant festivities and cultural experiences. 121 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:22,200 It's an experience that will leave you saying, "Holy schnitzel!" 122 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,200 Adorable. 123 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,200 That's on their website. 124 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,200 So freaking cute. 125 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:27,200 Holy schnitzel. 126 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,200 So have you been to Leavenworth? 127 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,200 I have. 128 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,200 Yeah. 129 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,200 Is it beautiful? 130 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:33,200 It's gorgeous. 131 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,200 I've never been. 132 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,200 I've been, I think it was in the fall time. 133 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:45,200 So it wasn't like snowing, but it was on the chillier side, certainly in the evenings. 134 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,200 And all of the buildings are so cute. 135 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:53,200 It's so quaint, it does look like a little old, tiny European town. 136 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:54,200 Oh my god, I have to go someday. 137 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,200 Was it all lit up when you went? 138 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:02,200 No, I don't think they had any of their, like, kind of seasonal stuff before Thanksgiving. 139 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,200 Exactly. 140 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,200 Yeah. 141 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,200 2010, I was there. 142 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,200 Oh my god, that was like a decade ago. 143 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,200 Yeah. 144 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:15,200 So they Christmas by the town and it stays lit up from Thanksgiving through February. 145 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:19,200 So y'all still have time to go, like plenty of time. 146 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,200 That's, yeah, it's quite the window. 147 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,200 And they do all sorts of fun events, I'll link the website so you can go check it out. 148 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,200 My mommy actually just went with her friends. 149 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,200 Yeah, she said it was gorgeous. 150 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,200 She sent me a couple of pictures. 151 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:34,200 Oh good. 152 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,200 And she said it was so much fun. 153 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:41,200 And when she told me she was going, I'm going to be honest, I'd never heard of it. 154 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:46,200 I just, I don't know, there's some things that are very popular that I've never heard about. 155 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:47,200 Yeah. 156 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,200 And this is why I'm doing the podcast. 157 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:49,200 I can learn about them. 158 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:50,200 That's fair. 159 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,200 Also, I just realized I went in June. 160 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:55,200 Oh. 161 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:56,200 I did not go in the fall. 162 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:57,200 Okay, was it cold though still? 163 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,200 It was chilly in the evening. 164 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,200 Yeah, for sure. 165 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,200 But. 166 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:07,200 So when she told me she was going, I looked it up and then I was actually really, really excited for her to go. 167 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:16,200 But not for pictures of snowy mountains and lights because when I think Germany and Christmas, 168 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:23,200 what comes to mind for me, I wanted her to be my personal Krampus paparazzi. 169 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,200 Ooh. 170 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:35,200 So the first thing I saw when I went on to the website was this little blurb on old crampy saying that the weekend closest to Krampusnacht knocked. 171 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,200 Krampusnacht. 172 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,200 Krampusnacht. 173 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,200 December 5th. 174 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,200 You might see Krampus costumes around town. 175 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:50,200 It goes on to state that they're not having an official Krampusnacht. celebration. 176 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:51,200 Okay. 177 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:57,200 So quote, please plan accordingly if this is a concern. 178 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,200 And I was like, huh. 179 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,200 That's interesting. 180 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:05,200 I wonder why people would be concerned about the big, lovable old Krampy-pus. 181 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,200 You know? 182 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:11,200 It certainly couldn't be his delightfully demonic appearance. 183 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,200 Oh, no. 184 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,200 Big and hairy with goat-like horns. 185 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,200 Yeah. 186 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,200 I mean, no notes. 187 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:25,200 And a long tongue protruding out to glide across to sharp fangs. 188 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:31,200 Okay. What about this tongue thing now that's weird. 189 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:37,200 And of course, since he's named after the word krampen, which means claw. 190 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:38,200 Oh. 191 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,200 He has to have the perfect set of terrifying clawses. 192 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,200 Ooh. 193 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,200 Phalanges. 194 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:51,200 So Krampus comes from Bavaria, Germany and Austria's Alpine region, which I assume is around the Alps. 195 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,200 Yeah. 196 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,200 That's exactly what it means. 197 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,200 It sounds like. 198 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:55,200 Yeah. 199 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,200 I was like, I feel like that's pretty straightforward, but no, it is. 200 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,200 I mean, I literally just picture. 201 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:09,200 I don't know if this is actually accurate, but I just picture the sound of music. 202 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:14,200 She's running through the hills because the hills are alive with music. 203 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,200 Pretty sure that was based in Austria. 204 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,200 And people skiing. 205 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:20,200 Yeah. 206 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:21,200 Definitely skiing. 207 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,200 Yeah. 208 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:32,200 And I've found since BC (before Christmas) and kicked off Yule or winter solstice as a symbol of evil. 209 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,200 Working naughty children with sticks. 210 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,200 Yeah. 211 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:43,200 Eating them or just playing throwing them in a sack and dragging them to the underworld or hell, whichever you prefer. 212 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:44,200 Great. 213 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,200 I would prefer neither. 214 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,200 Sounds like a fun time. 215 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,200 Okay. 216 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,200 I'm having second thoughts about that pillow in light of that. 217 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,200 Oh. 218 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,200 Be naughty, save Santa the trip. 219 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:04,200 That's actually pretty interesting that you put that pillow out, totally relates. 220 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,800 I had no idea. 221 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,480 But they're kind of, they kind of go on the trip together. 222 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:12,480 We'll talk about it. 223 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:13,480 Yeah. 224 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:14,480 We'll talk about it. 225 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,840 Oh my God. 226 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:23,000 So the whole dragging kids to hell thing is kind of interesting because Krampus is the son 227 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,400 of Hel. 228 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:31,640 Hey, H E L, is from Norse mythology, which I was kind of confused about how that was connected 229 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,840 to Germany. 230 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,840 So obviously I looked it up basically because of traveling. 231 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:37,840 Yeah. 232 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:44,840 The Illinois Library website says, quote, Germanic mythology is synonymous with Norse mythology. 233 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:53,680 Anywho, Hel is the queen of the Norse realm of the dead known as Hellheim or just Hell? 234 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:54,680 Oh. 235 00:11:54,680 --> 00:11:55,680 Sounds kind of familiar. 236 00:11:55,680 --> 00:11:59,360 Yeah, a little bit. 237 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,680 And she is the daughter of Loki. 238 00:12:02,680 --> 00:12:03,680 Okay. 239 00:12:03,680 --> 00:12:07,000 We all know him, Trixi Little Trixter. 240 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,000 Yeah. 241 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:15,760 Krampus has quite the pedigree. 242 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:16,760 Yeah. 243 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:23,480 And literally every single thing in Judeo-Christian religions is just taken from pagan and other indigenous 244 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,840 cultural and religious beliefs apparently. 245 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:26,840 Yeah. 246 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:27,840 Yeah. 247 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:28,840 As if we weren't already aware. 248 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:29,840 Yeah. 249 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:30,840 But you know, you just got to drill it in. 250 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:31,840 Yeah. 251 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,080 Oh my God. 252 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:40,080 Okay. 253 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:44,080 So insert Catholicism and Christianity into the mix. 254 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,080 And now there is a Saint Nicholas, everyone's obsessed with. 255 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,080 I guess being the patron saint of children comes with its benefits like your very own day. 256 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,080 Okay. 257 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,080 Nikolaustag. 258 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,080 Oh my goodness. 259 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,080 Not how you say it. 260 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,080 Nikolaustag. 261 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,080 Nikolaustag. 262 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,080 Nikolaustagt. 263 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,080 Nikolaustag. 264 00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:59,080 Do you need me to look it up? 265 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:00,080 Nikolaustagt. 266 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:07,160 It's just like the word, the letters are all weird because Nicholas is N-I-K-O-L-A-U-S and 267 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:08,160 then T-A-G. 268 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:09,160 Nikolaustag. 269 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,560 Nikolaustag. 270 00:13:11,560 --> 00:13:16,080 Which happens to be December 6th, the day after Krampusnacht. 271 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,080 Okay. 272 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:22,520 So now all of a sudden there's a symbol of goodness to go with all the evil of Krampus. 273 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,560 Super long story short. 274 00:13:24,560 --> 00:13:28,400 Catholics try to ban Krampus for being too devil-y. 275 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:29,400 Okay. 276 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,400 Like honestly who was first the devil or the Krampus? 277 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:33,400 Right. 278 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,240 That's fair. 279 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:40,840 But eventually people decided that they liked the whole good versus evil thing and they 280 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,000 wanted to keep the legend alive. 281 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:49,240 Well, what they really wanted was for to me to take out the trash and, uh, yeah. 282 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:50,640 You know what I mean? 283 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,960 That's where I'm going with that. 284 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:58,640 And hey, it keeps kids in line better than just getting a lump of coal, right? 285 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:05,640 There's nothing like go-to-old fashion fear of being beaten, eaten or Krampus-napped to hell. 286 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:06,640 Yeah. 287 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:07,640 Yeah. 288 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,200 There's, there really is nothing quite like it. 289 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:17,760 So they combine the two icons, both showing up at your place on December 5th, Krampusnacht 290 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:23,880 to either give you presents or, you know, the other stuff. 291 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,640 Krampus even started being referred to as Santa's shadow. 292 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:28,640 Oh, yeah. 293 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:29,640 Spooky. 294 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,640 Very spooky. 295 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:32,640 Okay. 296 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,640 So you remember Leavenworth in the Krampus Sighting Warning? 297 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:37,640 Yeah. 298 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,520 There's actually a reason for that. 299 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:49,440 In 2020, a volunteer-based nonprofit quote, “Troupe of Thespians bringing the traditional 300 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:55,640 Austrian Krampus folklore to America, known as Krampus Seattle." 301 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:56,640 Ooh. 302 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:04,000 They took to the snowy streets of Leavenworth for a Krampuslauf, which is basically a Krampus 303 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,640 cosplay parade. 304 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,840 Hello. 305 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:13,240 They actually have very beautifully-made masks and costumes and stuff. 306 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,440 It's really cool. 307 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,080 That sounds amazing. 308 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,240 I, goals is to see a Krampuslauf in person. 309 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:22,880 Wow, wow, wow. 310 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:28,480 I kind of joke that I was going to come show up as Krampus today because I looked so terrible. 311 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,120 It's on theme. 312 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:36,080 The people seemed to love it and the town's event organizers officially invited them back 313 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:40,720 the next year and promoted the Kramp out of it. 314 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,760 I love that. 315 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:49,680 From the Krampus enthusiast perspective, the event went great, but three was not the 316 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:55,280 charm in this case and they were not invited back for 2022. 317 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,280 Oh, no, why? 318 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,280 I'll tell you. 319 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,080 Oh, no. 320 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:09,060 A crosscut.com article says, "Community leaders were pressured by a small but vocal group who 321 00:16:09,060 --> 00:16:16,720 objected to the Krampus Seattle group last year, arguing that their presence didn't mesh 322 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:21,040 with the events and the friendly reputation." 323 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,040 What? 324 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:30,520 Okay, but also culturally that's definitely in the correct vibe, right? 325 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,920 And it's like it's one day. 326 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:33,920 Come on. 327 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,120 God. 328 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:42,520 To which I say, a new breed of Karen was born and that is the Krampus Karen, Krampus Karen, 329 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,760 the Krampus Karen's Unite. 330 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:45,760 Yeah. 331 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:52,840 So, ultimately, people are allowed to come dressed up, but not in any official events organized 332 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,200 by 11 worth leaders. 333 00:16:55,200 --> 00:17:01,600 So that is why there is a warning to plan accordingly if you don't want to see the Krampus, 334 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,000 don't fucking come on Krampusnacht. 335 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,000 Seriously. 336 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,000 But it's sad. 337 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,360 They can't have their big old fun Krampuslauf. 338 00:17:10,360 --> 00:17:11,360 What was it? 339 00:17:11,360 --> 00:17:12,360 Krampuslauf party? 340 00:17:12,360 --> 00:17:13,360 Yeah. 341 00:17:13,360 --> 00:17:14,360 Yeah. 342 00:17:14,360 --> 00:17:17,840 But, Seattle Krampus is not wallowing. 343 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:23,720 They have plenty of other events to attend, including Santa Con, which I didn't really know 344 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,160 was a thing, but that sounds fun. 345 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,160 Yeah. 346 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:34,160 Enjoying other Krampus groups for the huge Krampusnacht celebration in downtown Bremerton, 347 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:39,280 Washington, where the event was received with open arms. 348 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:40,840 Open...claws? 349 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:41,840 Open claws. 350 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:42,840 Yeah. 351 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:48,760 They even have a list of fun, themey things to attend in the town, like a naughty versus 352 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,640 nice wrestling match between Santa and Krampus. 353 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:53,640 Stop it. 354 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,120 That happened last night, actually. 355 00:17:56,120 --> 00:17:59,320 I am obsessed. 356 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:00,840 Next year we have to go. 357 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:01,840 We're going. 358 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,840 That sounds really fun. 359 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,440 I'm not a huge, like, wrestling fighting. 360 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,120 I don't really like that kind of stuff, but if it's Santa versus Krampus, I probably 361 00:18:10,120 --> 00:18:11,120 will watch it. 362 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:12,120 I mean, come on. 363 00:18:12,120 --> 00:18:14,720 Oh my God, I just had a flashback. 364 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,720 Do you remember that, like, clay-mation wrestling show? 365 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:19,720 Oh my God. 366 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,240 It was like on MTV. 367 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:23,240 I hold on. 368 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:27,120 I will look it up. 369 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:28,120 Celebrity Death Match. 370 00:18:28,120 --> 00:18:29,120 Yes. 371 00:18:29,120 --> 00:18:30,120 Oh my God. 372 00:18:30,120 --> 00:18:31,120 That show is so fun. 373 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:32,960 That's what this reminds me of. 374 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:33,960 Yeah. 375 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,960 It's definitely...it's giving celebrity Death Match. 376 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:39,960 Definitely. 377 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,960 I wonder if they had a Krampus Santa episode of that. 378 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:43,960 Ooh. 379 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:44,960 They should have. 380 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,960 We're going to investigate that. 381 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:47,960 Oh. 382 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:53,560 They did have a Jerry Seinfeld versus Tim Allen. 383 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:54,560 Oh. 384 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,360 And Tim Allen played Santa Claus. 385 00:18:57,360 --> 00:18:58,360 That's true. 386 00:18:58,360 --> 00:18:59,360 That's true. 387 00:18:59,360 --> 00:19:01,360 Jerry Seinfeld could be Krampus. 388 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:04,560 I love that for him. 389 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,840 So now I have a quote from Erin Hale in this. 390 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:12,040 This is from the KrampusBremerton.com. 391 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:18,560 Krampus now challenges the Christmas Capitalistic Pressure to somehow match Santa's mythological 392 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,720 generosity. 393 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:26,840 What if we simply celebrated the good gratitude and greatness in each other instead? 394 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:31,840 What if Krampus is here to be celebrated as a reminder that we have the choice to be 395 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,080 kind, patient, and compassionate? 396 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,080 Oh. 397 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,080 I like that. 398 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,080 I know. 399 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:43,080 I think that perfectly sums up kind of what Krampus is about because he is scary, but it is 400 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:48,840 cool to kind of have that the opposite ends, like showing you what really bad is and showing 401 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,320 you what really good is. 402 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:51,320 Right. 403 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,440 This is a reminder. 404 00:19:55,440 --> 00:20:01,880 But now some people say Krampus is getting just as popular and commercialized as Santa. 405 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:09,680 With places like the Peculiarium hosting mocktails with Krampus, Saturday, December 23rd, 406 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,720 stop it. 407 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:17,680 Or Raven's Manor having a themed menu featuring the Krampus Martini. 408 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:18,680 Ooh. 409 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,880 Designed for the icy Germanic demon himself. 410 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,720 Oh, yes. 411 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,720 Krampus cookies. 412 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:30,480 6.66 ounces of chocolate chip wither without walnut. 413 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,000 Served with a cold glass of milk or almond milk. 414 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:40,480 And if you need a little more of a hearty meal, order up the child stew in a bread bowl. 415 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:41,480 Oh. 416 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:42,480 Yeah. 417 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,480 Literally have. 418 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:49,720 There's something called child stew and I fucking died. 419 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:56,520 It's just like, how do you order that? 420 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:57,520 You know? 421 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,680 I think I would just say, I'd like the stew, please. 422 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,080 Childless stew. 423 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,520 Also fun fact about me. 424 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:07,760 I love bread bowls. 425 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:08,760 I do too. 426 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:09,760 So fucking. 427 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:10,760 So incredible. 428 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,000 Like sourdough bread bowl. 429 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,240 Nothing better. 430 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,160 I will eat the entire bread bowl. 431 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,160 Yeah. 432 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,160 Don't test me. 433 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,160 Yeah. 434 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,160 I would never. 435 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,400 They also have a Grinch drink, which I had to bring up because I'm wearing my Grinch 436 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:24,400 sweater today. 437 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,400 Hello. 438 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,200 And it's green. 439 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,200 Got rain. 440 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,560 I want to go get it. 441 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,400 So this brings me to our last little bit here. 442 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,640 We visited the Kampus. 443 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,440 We'll set up through the veil. 444 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:42,440 Oh my gosh. 445 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:43,440 Yeah. 446 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:44,840 That feels like a lifetime ago. 447 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:45,840 I know. 448 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,440 We took a bunch of photos. 449 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:48,840 Chris took our photos. 450 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:49,840 Thank you, Chris. 451 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,440 Thank you, Chris. 452 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:57,160 And we had little Christmas cards made from them that we're sending to our Patreon. 453 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,160 Hi. 454 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,160 Hi. 455 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,160 Hi. 456 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,160 Hi. 457 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,160 Happy Patreon holidays. 458 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,160 Yeah. 459 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,160 You get a holiday card. 460 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,160 We're calling it a holiday card because everyone celebrates Christmas. 461 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,160 Yeah. 462 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,160 Yeah. 463 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,160 So that'll be fun. 464 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,160 They're really cute. 465 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,160 Yeah. 466 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,160 They turned out super cute. 467 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,160 Yeah. 468 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:21,480 So if you're in town, go visit over there, visit Krampus, check out all of the amazing stuff 469 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:22,720 that they have in the store. 470 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:23,720 Like I can't even. 471 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:24,720 Yeah. 472 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,720 Actually, this is one of my purchases from... 473 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,720 Oh yeah, it is. 474 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:31,720 Yeah. 475 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,440 And we also have a couple other purchases we made there. 476 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,880 We got little mystery tarot cards. 477 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:44,800 And the one I ended up opening it in the store because you can either leave it on their 478 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:49,400 altar and like write, write a wish on it or something that you want and leave it on 479 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,400 their altar. 480 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,960 So that was my plan. 481 00:22:51,960 --> 00:23:01,400 And then I opened it and I got the double card, which eerily kind of looks like Krampus. 482 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,360 It has a very long protruding tongue and horns. 483 00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:06,360 I cannot. 484 00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:07,360 I cannot. 485 00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:10,840 So I had to take it with me, of course. 486 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,880 And it has like the back of the card kind of looks very Christmasy, kind of like literally 487 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,120 just notice that today. 488 00:23:18,120 --> 00:23:22,880 So it was totally perfect. We brought it to put on our altar today to show off because 489 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,720 it was just too...the Krampus connection was too much. 490 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,040 It's just too good. 491 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,920 And then Caitlyn has her mystery tarot. 492 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,920 I think she wants to open it today too. 493 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:34,920 Yeah. 494 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:40,000 So we'll do that and we'll pull a card from my nightmare before Christmas deck for the 495 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,120 tarot reading and that will be that. 496 00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:44,680 Ho ho ho. 497 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:52,640 As indie podcasters, we love to show our support of other awesome shows. 498 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,520 So stay tuned for the promo we've got to share with you this week. 499 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:57,920 Let's show them some love. 500 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,920 You can find their info in our show notes. 501 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:09,720 Hey, I'm Gina and I'm Amber. 502 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,280 And we're here to bring you the Weird True Crime Podcast where we cover true crime cases 503 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,920 that will leave you asking yourself, did that really happen? 504 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,920 We'll dive into questionable cases throughout history that are solved, unsolved, or just 505 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,080 plain unbelievable. 506 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:29,480 We'll also talk about the court gear side of true crime and episodes we like to call 507 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,480 What the f*ck Wednesday. 508 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:40,520 So be sure to subscribe and listen on your favorite podcast service. 509 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,840 You guys were back! 510 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,520 And don't worry, we did get more wine. 511 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,520 Well, of course. 512 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:53,640 Okay, before tarot, we're doing things. 513 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:54,640 We're doing things. 514 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:55,640 Okay. 515 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,440 What are we opening, Caitlyn? 516 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:02,120 We have so many fun things to open. 517 00:25:02,120 --> 00:25:10,240 We have not checked our PO box for a little while. 518 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:16,280 So we have an atorabal Halloween postcard that we received. 519 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,040 But it's so cute. 520 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,360 I know. 521 00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:21,120 I'm going to read it. 522 00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:22,520 Please do. 523 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,600 It's spooky season. 524 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,360 Thank you both so much for your excellent podcast. 525 00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:33,440 Your banter, wit, and excellent storytelling is a highlight of my week. 526 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,360 Stay spooky. 527 00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:36,360 From Danny. 528 00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:38,920 Oh, thank you, Danny. 529 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:39,920 You wanna... 530 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,600 I love this because I was just talking about how I love Christmas. 531 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,920 But I love Halloween. 532 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,920 And there's something Halloweeny. 533 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,640 Oh, I love Halloweeny. 534 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,120 Okay. 535 00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:56,760 And then I already opened this one because I knew who it was going to be from. 536 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,360 Because I recognize the handwriting. 537 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:03,000 So this came from True Crime, Cat Lawyer. 538 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,400 Oh, Hi Elyse. 539 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,400 Oh, Winston. 540 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,400 Oh, Winston. 541 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,400 We love her. 542 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,400 Yeah. 543 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,400 So flipping cute. 544 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,880 And she sent us a little sticker peac. 545 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:16,880 Of course she did. 546 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,480 She's always so good with the stickers. 547 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,480 I know. 548 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,200 Look at this little Christmas Winston. 549 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,200 It's adorable. 550 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,720 Oh, I love it. 551 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,880 I really want Winston on the pod. 552 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:27,880 I know. 553 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:28,880 I know. 554 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,680 So many things. 555 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:31,680 And we have this. 556 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,840 What's that? 557 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,920 This came from Caitlin. 558 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,720 Caitlyn, who? 559 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,720 Not me. 560 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,720 Hi, Caitlin. 561 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,720 Oh, this is so cute. 562 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:45,720 Happy holiday. 563 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:50,920 Got that Lumberjack plaid on there. 564 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:51,920 Right? 565 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,560 It's not Lumberjack plaid, but all plaid is Lumberjack to me. 566 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,560 Okay. 567 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,760 I'm going to read this to you. 568 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,760 Caitlyn and Cassie. 569 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,600 What's up? 570 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,600 Thank you for everything you have done to help me this year. 571 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:10,600 I look forward to helping you both in the future to gain more viewers. 572 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:18,120 Also, I look forward to doing something together in person, which we are working on. 573 00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:19,120 Yeah. 574 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:20,120 I'm so excited. 575 00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:22,640 I love meeting everybody. 576 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,640 I know. 577 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:24,640 Literally. 578 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:25,640 I love it. 579 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:26,640 I love it. 580 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:27,640 I love people. 581 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,440 I know I would say people, but I love my people. 582 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,440 Yeah. 583 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,080 No, that's the difference. 584 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,000 Anyways, hope you enjoy your gifts. 585 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,360 Happy holidays, Caitlin. 586 00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:40,360 Yes. 587 00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:43,560 Oh my gosh. 588 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:44,880 My eyes are tearing up. 589 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,680 I'm not crying. 590 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,920 She's not crying, though. 591 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,920 Oh no. 592 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:53,920 Oh no. 593 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:54,920 Oh my god. 594 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:55,920 What? 595 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:56,920 Okay. 596 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,920 There's candy cans. 597 00:27:58,920 --> 00:27:59,920 Yes. 598 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:06,080 And there's two little wrapped things in here. 599 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,080 Okay. 600 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,520 One has tarot cards on it and one has a Ouija board. 601 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,920 So I feel like the tarot cards might be for you. 602 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,920 That feels on brand. 603 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:21,080 Oh my god. 604 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,120 Is this a sucker? 605 00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:24,400 Yes. 606 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,800 This is the cutest fucking thing I've ever seen. 607 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,600 We'll take closer pictures. 608 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:29,600 Oh my god. 609 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,600 Where did you get this? 610 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,120 Oh my god. 611 00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:35,240 I am obsessed. 612 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,440 Mine's blackberry pear. 613 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:38,440 Ooh. 614 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,440 Ooh. 615 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:40,440 Oh yeah. 616 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,440 I did see the Skittles right on top. 617 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,440 So those are already gone. 618 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,960 Oh my gosh. 619 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,000 This is so cute. 620 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,400 Stop it. 621 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,800 A tarot card. 622 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,920 Scented bath bomb. 623 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:53,920 Oh my god. 624 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:54,920 Yours is so cute. 625 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:55,920 Look at this. 626 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:56,920 Ooh. 627 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:05,560 It's so excited for this. 628 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,560 What is your scent? 629 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,680 Um, a biscuit. 630 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:10,920 I love a biscuit. 631 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:11,920 What's yours? 632 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:12,920 Rose. 633 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:13,920 Do we need a trade? 634 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,840 What do you want? 635 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,760 I love Rose. 636 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,960 Thank you, Kate. 637 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:20,960 I was. 638 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:21,960 We traded. 639 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,960 Oh my gosh. 640 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,240 I'm taking a bath like tonight. 641 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,880 I don't have a tub, but I will find one. 642 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:32,880 I have a tub. 643 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:33,880 I actually do. 644 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:34,880 Okay. 645 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:35,880 I'm house sitting. 646 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:36,880 So I do have access to a tub. 647 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,880 Actually, this is perfect. 648 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:38,880 This is so perfect. 649 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:39,880 I'm so excited. 650 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:40,880 I all have a tub, Kate. 651 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,880 I'm so excited. 652 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:42,880 I'm going to take a video. 653 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:43,880 So excited. 654 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:44,880 Yeah. 655 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:45,880 I was just going to say. 656 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:46,880 Oh my gosh. 657 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:47,880 Okay. 658 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:48,880 What else is in here? 659 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:49,880 Oh my gosh. 660 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:56,880 Oh my gosh. 661 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,880 Oh my gosh. 662 00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:59,880 Oh my gosh. 663 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:00,880 Oh. 664 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,880 Self-care thing. 665 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:02,880 Oh. 666 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:03,880 Oh my gosh. 667 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,880 Oh my gosh. 668 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:05,880 Oh my gosh. 669 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:06,880 Oh my gosh. 670 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:07,880 Oh my gosh. 671 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:08,880 Oh. 672 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:09,880 Self-care thing. 673 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:10,880 Oh. 674 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:11,880 Oh my gosh. 675 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:12,880 Oh my gosh. 676 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:13,880 Oh my gosh. 677 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:14,880 Oh my gosh. 678 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:15,880 Oh my gosh. 679 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:16,880 Oh my gosh. 680 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:17,880 Oh. 681 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:18,880 Self-care thing. 682 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:28,000 and a boob mask! I love this! It has bows for your tea toss. This is amazing. I'm gonna smear 683 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:33,360 this all over my boobs and butt and it's gonna be great. We're not gonna take pictures of that. 684 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:44,320 Oh my god! This is amazing! I'm so excited. Thank you so much, Caitlin. You're literally the fricken 685 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:54,880 sweetest. That was excitement. Should we do our little tarot? Okay. Are we gonna do my envelope 686 00:30:54,880 --> 00:31:02,000 tarot? Do your mystery first. You're just gonna break open a candy cane right now. I know. 687 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:16,000 Ooh! What is it? That's the backside of the car. Hey girl! Cute skulls? Five of pentacles. 688 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:27,040 Dropping that money. Oh no! Is it not good? Yeah, the five of pentacles is that's throwing away 689 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:34,800 money. That's misleading. Oh! Look at the... Can you see that? Oh, that's right. I do remember that one. 690 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:40,080 Wasn't that a Christmas episode too? That we got that. It was the train wreck one. I don't know if 691 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:45,760 that was Christmas, maybe it was the train wreck snowy one. Yeah. That is okay. So it's a snowy 692 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:52,080 car. That's interesting. Maybe it just relates to this episode, you know? Oh my god, it does. 693 00:31:52,080 --> 00:32:00,480 Okay. I found it already. Often this car depicts a couple or a family in an attitude of humility, 694 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:08,720 poverty or hardship. Their desperation and suffering are evident. Sometimes a stained glass 695 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:17,680 church window appears above them, which indicates emphasizing spiritual values over material ones. 696 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:25,440 Oh, okay. Wow. It's not just a season about stuff. Yeah. That was a big part of this episode, 697 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:35,520 because Krampus represents the commercialization of Christmas. I cannot believe that. You got a 698 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:42,400 Krampus and I got a card that was like, "Hey, maybe don't make everything about stuff." Wow, 699 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:56,320 that's really cool. I love that. There you go. Okay. Oh, I got the lovers. Stop it. We did. That's so fun. 700 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:03,120 It was Christmasy, but yeah, it was technically in reverse when I looked at it, but I just felt like 701 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:08,640 it was in, I flipped it and that's how it was. So it's in upright for me. Okay. In my brain. 702 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:18,000 Lovers, Missilto. I know I feel so bad. I wanted to get some Missilto and I just 703 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:24,720 I thought about it once and it went out of my brain and I forgot my Missilto headband, but I 704 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:30,480 wore that Missilto headband to kiss Krampus in the pictures. It did. That's so cute. 705 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:45,120 All I want for Christmas is Krampus or Krampus. Yeah. Okay. So, oh, this is interesting. Cassie, our key 706 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:55,760 words are partnership union of opposites. Oh, partnership like Santa and Krampus union of opposites. 707 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:05,760 Look at us. I know. We're so witchy. Choices, harmony, cooperation, choices, choice between good 708 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:12,000 and evil. Yeah. Cooperation. Don't be naughty and get beaten by Krampus with sticks. Yeah. 709 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:25,360 Yeah. The lovers card usually shows a man and woman, but they're the similarities and in some 710 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:33,200 decks, they're naked in others, they're clothes. Some decks show the couple touching, even engaged in 711 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:41,920 a passionate embrace, whereas others place them on opposite sides of the card, perhaps with a 712 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:50,320 winged being overlooking them. Alla, garden of Eden. There's that. The winged beings are back. 713 00:34:53,600 --> 00:35:00,640 You'll even find decks that present three people on the card as if a third party who might be a 714 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:09,120 young person or an older parental figure is influencing their relationship like a Krampus card. 715 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:18,720 Oh, or like a child influencing, you know, which is going to be either way. Although many people 716 00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:25,680 interpret this card as representing romantic love, it's really about the union of opposites, 717 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:35,520 your own dual nature. Wow. This is so cool. I love this. That doesn't rule out romance in your future 718 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:43,840 if the lovers shows up in a reading. It just means union has many meanings other than male female 719 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:52,240 coupling. Yeah, it does. And trusting. Okay, so let's do our upright interpretation. I also just 720 00:35:52,240 --> 00:36:02,240 got a flash of Krampus and Santa wrestling. I love that. This is a card of cooperation, of working 721 00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:11,840 together with others to accomplish a joint purpose. A joint purpose. You're not even the stoner. 722 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,880 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We're allegedly. We've got some ideas. 723 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:26,240 When it appears upright, it signifies an attraction and partnership of some kind, not only the 724 00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:35,280 romantic variety. It can also suggest you're uniting disparate parts of yourself. The lovers 725 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:42,320 represents a period of harmony in personal or professional matters. Sometimes it indicates 726 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:47,760 you need to make a choice between two things you value, but you'll make the right decision. 727 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:55,440 Or you'll get dragged to hell. I was like, I'm just going to wait for it. Or put into stew. 728 00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:04,960 In a reading about money, you can profit from combining your resources with someone else's. 729 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:17,040 That's amazing. Sometimes the lovers symbolizes benefiting from a partner's money or marrying into 730 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:23,840 wealth. I got this card recently for someone else that I was doing a reading for. And I was like, 731 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:31,680 oh, yeah, you did. If you're seeking a financial backer, this card gives you a thumbs up. 732 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:40,240 If the reading is about your job, this card represents a time of cooperation, contentment, and harmony. 733 00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:46,880 Joint projects are favored now. Two forces have united toward a common goal. 734 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:52,800 The lovers can also signify meeting a partner through work or working through 735 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,560 working with a romantic partner in business. 736 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:10,640 Krampus Santa. Yeah. This is Claus. Watch out. This is Claus. This is Claus. What if Mrs. Claus is crampus? 737 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:20,160 I don't know. Every picture I've seen of her is like a cute little old grandma in disguise. What if she 738 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:29,280 comes out as crampus? I love this conspiracy theory that I just created. She cooked that up right 739 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:36,000 click. That was that's something. Mrs. Claus doesn't even have a first name. You know what I mean? We just 740 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:42,640 call her Mrs. Claus. We need to look into that. Does she have a first name? Like, is there any mythology 741 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:49,200 there where she is? There's got to be, right? Yeah. I mean in the claymation one where he meets her, 742 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:55,680 she has a name, but I don't remember what it is. Okay. Well, anyway, put a pin in that 743 00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:04,160 in a reading about love, this card boats well for a romantic relationship. It shows mutual caring 744 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:11,760 and attraction, a rewarding partnership that brings out the best in both people. Sometimes it means 745 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:22,000 a decision in connection with a love relationship. Yeah. This whole thing is just like, I good versus 746 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:28,000 evil, Krampus, Santa. Like, yeah, their whole relationship. That's so cool. I just realized there's 747 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:36,160 a card on the ground. What? There's a card on the ground. Holy shh. Holy schnitzel. Holy schnitzel. 748 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:42,960 It's the five of presents. So yeah, I'm very curious. I guess it just fell down when I was doing 749 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:49,600 something or other. Five of pinnacles in my... Oh yeah. Oh, is presents pinnacles? What do we decide? 750 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:59,200 I don't remember. That would be weird. I would not be surprised though. Yeah, candles would be ones. 751 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:06,800 Presence would be pinnacles, needle swords, push and scuops. Wow! This is just on the floor. Five 752 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:14,000 five presents. We don't even need to read it because we read it already. Wow. But I don't know when it 753 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:21,200 looks like presents. That is so... Yeah, I cannot believe that. That is really cool. I wonder if you could 754 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:27,920 see it in the video when it fell out. Oh, I don't know. I probably think they're gonna fall off the bottom 755 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:37,680 or something. Yeah, that's so cool. What are the odds that we buy two little tarot readings 756 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:45,840 out through the veil? And one of them looks like crampus. One of them is five of... I pentacles. 757 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:54,880 And then this other five pinnacles drops out. Weird. Okay. People are gonna literally... 758 00:40:54,880 --> 00:41:01,440 They're gonna be thinking we're making this up. I just... They watched it. I mean, we didn't... 759 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:06,720 I'm always afraid that people are gonna be like, "Woooo!" Well, and if you want to see, I pulled this 760 00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:13,200 card out in a video and I put it with the little reel and TikTok I made for the through the veil 761 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:18,320 episode. Yeah, that's right. And I pulled it out. So that was me literally opening it right there. 762 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:23,600 I feel like are we gonna have conspiracy theories about our terrestrial beings? I hope so. Can we 763 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:30,240 start a Reddit thread on the conspiracy theory for us? Maybe. I really don't want that because 764 00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:37,360 they're so good. Like they're really right on. I... That's why I want it to be like so above board 765 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:46,480 that people know they're real. Yeah. They do. Oh, this is so cool. I need a candy cane and a nap. 766 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:55,600 Drink. We have to open gifts still. Oh, oh my god. Yeah. So let's end it for normal people. And then 767 00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:02,800 we're gonna continue opening gifts for our Patreon. Okay. Have a creep miss crampus not. 768 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:10,480 With a bunch of ass. There was no ass in there. All the all the Krampus ass. All the ass. 769 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:18,800 Kramp ass. Kramp ass. Kramp ass. How did I put no Kramp ass jokes in my... in my episode? I don't know. 770 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:26,000 I'm sick. That's what happens. I'm surprised this reading turned out so good. How sick I am too. 771 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:33,840 I know. Well, I shuffle the shit out of those cards. Well, you were... you held this together. Mine 772 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:41,120 was from the past. So past healthy Cassie. Pulled the right card. Well, and this one. Oh, I mean, 773 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:47,600 that was weeks ago. Yeah. Did I pick that for you or you picked it? No, I... I think you... Yeah, you... 774 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:54,320 specifically brought me. Yeah. The bowl of the cards and we're like, pick yours. Yeah. Yeah. 775 00:42:54,320 --> 00:43:00,320 Okay, well, let's open these presents. Who is first? 776 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:10,320 [Music] 777 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:35,120 [Music] 778 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:44,480 Germanic mythology is synonymous with North. North Musa. Musa, Judy. I mean, it's a shoe face. Oh my 779 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:54,400 God. North mythology. It's that it's the... Yeah. You know, North mythology. North. You said 780 00:43:54,400 --> 00:44:04,000 well. I know. I was like, "Damn it." I know. Okay. Hel is the queen of the North. My God.