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Whether you live in Portland or visit, you will not find a friendlier hotel. Everything is original to the building the hotel as it opened.
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You are surrounded and immersed by the ghosts and the spirit of 1900s, Portland and you feel it. And that is what is so cool about Portland's Benson Hotel.
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Hi Caitlyn. Hi Cassie. Hi creepy people. Hello. This is PNW Haunts and Homicides where we chat about true crime, the paranormal and all things spooky in the Pacific Northwest.
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In a high note. I was trying to be like the ghost from Beetlejuice.
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Yeah, they're very like melodic. We also do a little chero reading in every episode to give you a little bit of deeper insight into our topic for the episode.
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That we did and this episode we did a terror reading in a pretty cool place that we will talk about on the site.
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Yes, it was very cool and it worked totally worked. Obviously we took the terror out of the normal, terror alter zone and we did it. It was fun. It was so fun.
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So we're going to tell you all about what we did. What did we do? We went on a Portland ghost tour. We did.
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It's downtown Portland and they will link it for you, but that's ran by the US ghost adventures. Yeah. No, it's not big old bites. Unfortunately.
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Yeah, not THE ghost adventures. Yeah. It's a different ghost adventures.
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Other people like adventures and ghosts. There is three tours that they currently have. Poltergeist and psychopaths.
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Boos, Boos and booze. But that's like a podcast. Booze and booze haunted pub crawl and Portland ultimate dead of night tour.
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And those are offered daily year round. You do have to like book it in advance. Obviously. They're year round. I didn't realize that.
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Yes. Okay. If you missed it for a spooky season, you can go for unspookie season or you can wait until next year, but it's not too late.
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It's fun. Ghosts are fun anytime of year. So we got to go on kind of a mix of these tours just to get a little sample, little taste tester.
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Yeah. And our wonderful tour guide, Laurie, who you will get to know pretty well by the end of this episode took us around.
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She's a fantastic storyteller. It was so much fun getting to learn all of this crazy history about Portland.
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And I just obviously that's why I kind of do this podcast. It's to learn more about the Pacific Northwest more about my area.
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But it was really cool specifically Portland, you know, where I'm from.
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Yeah. I mean, and she really had a pretty interesting and like a wide breadth of different knowledge about periods of time in Portland and just kind of cool historical facts and.
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Yeah. I mean, it's interesting to learn so much about a place that like, and we've lived here all our lives pretty much.
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And we're going to get to a walk around and like really look at things really look at the buildings instead of just like walking by, you know, you get that.
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Yeah. What's that called tunnel vision. And you just don't really look at anything. But when you're like looking at it and like looking up because all the buildings are so tall and.
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Yeah. Beautiful. So that was cool.
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There were a few that I'm like, we have definitely I'm sure both of us at certain points, Ben in these areas and maybe like near these buildings or in the case of like spoiler alert - Kells.
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Like I've definitely been there to end to that location specifically.
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And obviously I've known about like kind of some of the spookiness there, but yeah really going in and like focusing on that when you're visiting.
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It's a whole different experience. How do you ever been down to the cigar room before?
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Yeah, I think I had just really like, oh, you're here. So you like go and see it.
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I think it was maybe on my 21st, first day.
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Oh, when I look a bad time to go down and smell all those cigars.
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And it was that part of it was regrettable. It's danky.
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Yeah. Yeah. I had been down there because I'd been on the booze, the booze and booze haunted pub crawl like years and years and years ago.
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Of course you had. And so yeah, we went down there, but it was actually full of people that were smoking cigars when we got to walk through.
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So it was empty when we went through. So it was cool to like hang out in there for a little bit and kind of look around more.
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Because it's a cool space. It is. Yeah. I feel like the timing of our tour, we hit a lot of the places that we were trying to visit.
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And it was like optimal timing to where it wasn't like their busiest time of the evening. Like, Kells is definitely, it depends on like if it's St. Patty's Day,
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they're going to be poppin' all day, you know, every day for probably like a week around the holiday.
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Normally they're kind of like a, I feel like a late night spot.
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They were poppin' upstairs with the way our life used to going. And that was really fun to record.
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We'll have some of that in the video for you because we took footage the entire time.
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I seriously always be recording. And we were.
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So we started off at the Benson Hotel. We walked in, we went straight to the bar and then we were like,
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"Oh, wait, did we pass someone that said US Ghost Adventures on their shirt? Was that, was that Lori?"
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So we did and then she was like, "Yeah, okay, go get drinks, you're gonna need them and we'll start the tour."
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And you had commented like when we first walked in, we were looking around.
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Do you remember what you said about it, like what it looked like? Oh yeah.
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Oh yeah. So we walked in and it's like everything about it is very like grand in terms of scale.
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And like the finishes are just like absolutely gorgeous. Oh just, I mean it's incredible.
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But we're walking in and it's like just like the highest end and most beautiful marble and stone and wood.
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I mean, oh the wood. It is gorgeous.
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But then you come to kind of their grand staircase where you would like be walking up that towards like guest rooms on the one side.
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And there's also a massive, massive like ornate gold frame mirror.
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Yes. Which we do get a story about later.
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Yeah. Like I don't even have a single wall in my apartment that would be big enough for like half of it.
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God, how heavy do you think that thing is?
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Like God, I feel like did they crane that in? Like they built that one wall, crained that in and kept building the building?
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Oh no no.
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It's massive. It's gotta be super heavy.
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But anyway, so it's like that gorgeous, beautiful kind of curved staircase.
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Just a, that is where you make an entrance my girl.
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I wanted to put on some prom dresses and walk down those stairs so bad.
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I know. And it turns out you were picking up on kind of the same vibe as me.
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I feel like with that comment because I was like this reminds me of the Titanic.
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This is exactly like when Rose is like walking down the set of stairs.
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Yeah.
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The vibe is, I mean aesthetically, all of the things I, it really was.
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And then to make that creepier that comment, when was the Benson built in 1912?
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When did the Titanic sink in 1912?
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So weird. So there was that kind of synchronicity connection.
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Yeah.
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With the dates on that. So yeah.
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Yeah. That's interesting.
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We had the reputation of being the routiest, raunchiest cowboy frontier town.
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At the same time, we were considered the world's most wickedest, evil seaport city.
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And we're like 80 miles from the Pacific Ocean.
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This is the story of how we got that reputation.
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So 1912, when this hotel was built, Simon Benson had been wealthy for years and years and years.
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He came here. He was integral in turning this city into the beautiful icon of architecture and of this day.
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The same time, his wife, who was a lifelong T-Totaler, the same thing with Mr. Benson,
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they were part of the temperance and prohibition movements here in Portland.
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Now, in this hotel, Champagne kind of wasn't really considered alcohol.
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Oh, before about the era.
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Yeah.
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And I completely agree.
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Because, right.
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Yeah. It's just bubbles, you guys.
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Exactly. Bubbles in water, expensive bubbles in water.
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So the average person never tasted Champagne.
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So already, that's a rarefied thing to have.
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And nobody in the right mind would ever get into the cup-stringing Champagne.
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So there was at a time people thought, "You couldn't get drunk on Champagne, but of course you can't."
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And people didn't.
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But we have to have those little grains so that you're setting up that wall.
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There's the haves and the have-nots and they're just hitting us right out of the face.
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Yep. Right back to the Titanic.
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Simon has been seen in his adult older form.
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Now, he did not die here in the hotel.
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He died back in the East at a very old age.
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So this is obviously his baby.
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This was kind of his pet.
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Oh, yeah.
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I could see where he might end up here.
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He is very proud and he is still proud of this place as is.
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You know, he'll kind of listen in.
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Now, at the time that he had this hotel that lounge, the poem court, or any drinking was not allowed.
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There was no alcohol served here.
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Now this was where beautiful weddings, very important business meetings and things happened.
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So I'm not saying there were no alcohol here, but this is also during the time when Portland started their prohibition earlier,
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like decades, than the rest of the United States and here in Portland, it was very important that we controlled alcohol and things.
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And so that's a lot of this story.
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So Benson is seen on the mezzanine here dressed in full tie and tails as he would have dressed in the evening dinners.
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And he stands either there looking over into the lobby.
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Now this is after his death, the year after his death, when the building was sold settled and they started serving alcohol,
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is when he started being seen up here on the mezzanine.
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Do you think he disapproves?
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Yeah, he does.
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He also been seen at the far end over there, over on the floor in the lobby,
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and he's leaning up against that one pillar.
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I showed you and asked if you felt anything weird.
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So if you are drinking and you see him, he's a full-bodied apparition, and he is not happy.
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He will be stern looking if you are holding a drink.
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It will feel, it'll just slide out of your hand.
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No, alcohol here is.
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Your drink is precarious.
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This thing responds to stories.
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Simon, we're so sorry.
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I mean, you can just have a little bit of chill.
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You have your drink close to the edge.
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It'll walk its way off the corner of the table.
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All were, if it's on the table, you could be talking and it's as though you or somebody knocked it over.
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I would never.
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If you've seen him and he's scowling at you, I would imagine especially young ladies,
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white and finger, white and finger.
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I'm not a fan of that.
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I feel like I have to chug this before he rips it out of my hands.
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I'm so excited to talk to you again, Laurie, how have you been since our ghost tour?
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Thank you.
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I've been great.
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Now it's the Halloween season.
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My last couple of pub crawls I do in costume.
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That is so fun.
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Laurie Hauntz is a gal from the 1970s that had a tragic disco accident that culminated with
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her wandering the streets outside the Benson Hotel and in the lobby with her giant spider Hugo.
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That's hilarious.
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I love that.
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I wish we could have seen that.
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I know.
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So I'm going to get some pictures and things.
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And I may debut another character tonight or that might be this Saturday.
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Their Halloween brings out the characters in me.
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Me too.
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I totally get that.
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Awesome.
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When we went into the Benson, when we were downstairs, you were telling a story of the
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Fay of a Fay entity.
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And I know Caitlin wanted to hear about that indefinitely about the wood.
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All of the fancy Titanic woodwork that she called it in the hotel.
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Car thing because the wood and the Fay are reported to be together.
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So one of the rumors why the beautiful Benson Hotel in downtown Portland is rumored to
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be so haunted is because the wood that distinctive black walnut is now rare.
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So rare that it's rumored to be extinct.
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It was owned by the Zars of Russia.
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It's a circadian black walnut that for centuries was grown in the Russian imperial forests and
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was used to build the Zars hunting lodges, their castles, any buildings of prominence.
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So when Simon Benson became a wealthy, wealthy man many, many times over and in 1912 when he decided
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that he wanted to open a grand hotel that was the epitome of old world charm and class
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in the center of the new world of a modern Pacific Northwest city which they all of our city
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fathers intended Portland to be the Benson Hotel does not disappoint.
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So whether you live in Portland or visit, you will not find a friendlier hotel.
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So come through the doors. The amazement starts as you go through the glass and brass revolving doors
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that are unique and everything is original to the building the hotel as it opened.
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So when you go into the Italian marble line, floor of the lobby,
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you immediately are surrounded by this gorgeous beautiful wood.
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You're bathed in the crystal rainbow glows of the Italian cut crystal chandeliers.
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You see the Italian at Preston motif, three dimensional ceilings and everything from the German
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gold guilt, huge mirror up the gorgeous Titanic era stairs to the mezzanine.
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You are surrounded and immersed by the ghosts and the spirit of 1900s, Portland and you feel it.
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And that is what is so cool about Portland's Benson Hotel.
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Now in the mid 1980s, it was reported that the Imperial Russian forest suffered some type of a blight,
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either a weevil or some type of wood boring pesticide that the last of these Circassian black walnut trees second and died.
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Roughly about that time, there's been an increase in some paranormal activity,
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particularly the appearance of what appears to be a fake creature.
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Now a fake creature is a forest creature.
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It never has been human, never will be human.
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Every culture and society has one.
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They're known as leprechauns and fairies and sprites, brownies and all kinds of things.
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So some can be outright evil, some can be helpful, some can be tricksters.
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The fave that appears at the Benson appears to be a benign trickster tends to appear in the middle of the night when you are either sleeping and your partner next to you is asleep and doesn't rouse over.
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You're in a room by yourself and your traveling companion leaves for a few minutes.
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Once again, you're left in the room by yourself.
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You turn around and you notice this charming adorable child.
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That's about three years old.
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And you can just imagine, especially if it's in the middle of the night, you have this cute chubby, cheap little little kid in the middle of your hotel.
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And you know, they're adorable.
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You want to help them and they're creepy as hell.
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They're also creepy even if they're cute.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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So that's why the haunting is something that shares that in common with the reports that I've heard is it tends to happen to women who have had children.
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Or have children around that age so that when they wake up, they see this child and instead of reacting in panic or order, they want to come for and reach out.
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So the women that have reported that they've touched the child reported first that it appears warm, solid, but either immediately turns icy cold or there's some sensation where you let go right away.
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Now the child immediately giggles and starts laughing.
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Okay.
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Creepy, but okay.
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And then does the little peekaboo thing.
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Okay.
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So women tend to do the peekaboo thing and now we're giggling and everybody who's been around creepy children or any children.
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No, you get them to do peekaboo and then you can get them to tell you, okay, who are you?
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They'll wear you from scream for help something like that, but you got them engaging and something.
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So every time you do the peekaboo, the second time, now the smile is bigger.
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It's kind of morphing into something.
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It's glints in the eyes that they seem a little bit larger than before and with the smile that couldn't be the tips of bangs.
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No, no, no.
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If you make it to the third peekaboo, then all the questions are gone.
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It then looks like a Gremlin.
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I've only heard that. So I'm assuming it's like that 1990s, you know, Bremlins, you know, the mean one or just something that obviously is.
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Now take it from me.
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If you are ever in the situation where you're in bed and you're faced with something, there are just some metaphysical rules and laws that are immutable.
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And if you want something to leave you alone, you say, Earth, think it.
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Leave me alone. Take your blankets.
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Cover your head. Close your eyes.
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Keep them closed. Think enough Christmas until it's all over.
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But what happens in this case, if and you won't be able to wake up anybody if they're sleeping next to you.
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But in that case, you cover your head.
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You will feel the entity. It doesn't touch you.
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But move is though down the bed to the foot.
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And then within a few moments, you feel it dissipate as though it ascends up or out of the room or something of that nature.
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So that's why we think it could be Rasputin who was prominently connected with Zahr Nikolai II family.
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That was the Zahr that was in power when Simon Benson, who was internationally known and famous for being wealthy.
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The lumberman had the money power and influence to contract with, you know, the Imperial Russian forest to get what is now reported to be the largest collection of this extinct or certainly very rare.
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Sir Casey in black walnut outside of Russia from what I've heard and understood many samples were destroyed in the Russian revolution.
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The hunting palaces, lodges, those things were torn down for souvenirs, that kind of thing. I don't know necessarily if that's true.
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But that's the fake connection from old Russia.
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And so if you're a Russian pay and you want to get back to your enchanted Rasputin would, hey, the Benson's the place to do it.
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And I guarantee you walk into that lobby, whether you wear tennis shoes or tiaras, you're welcome and you don't want to leave.
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It's so welcoming in there. There's that beautiful bar right when you walk in.
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Isn't it cool? Isn't it cool? Simon Benson. I am convinced key eaves drops on my tours through there and the EMF when I'm talking about him, especially or his hotel, it flutters.
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It does. It does. It's like he walks away like, okay, but he's keeping an eye on me. Yeah, I think we kind of scared him away a little bit.
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We were a crazy, loud crazy drink and women.
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Yes, yes, yes. This is the time of year where think about it.
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A very powerful and influential man like Simon Benson and all of the movers and shakers in Portland, especially the 1912s, 1924s when you're talking about spiritualists, suffragettes, socialists, socialites, excuse me, and all of that kind of spooky stuff.
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It would maybe make him a little nervous. Yeah. We're different breed nowadays.
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I was also going to say before we move on from the Benson that I'm a person who likes to touch things and like kind of feel and absorb its energy if I can.
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I highly recommend just like putting a hand on one of the wooden pillars and just like feeling the energy and also looking at them because you could see like faces in the in the wood patterns.
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It's so interesting.
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Yep. And it's like I told you going up the stairway to the mezzanine, you feel some cool spots.
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And the fact that I've been a tour guide and have had the blessing of being in the Benson weekly, sometimes several times a week, that it's always welcoming.
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I feel energies there. There is nothing scary, but there are many haunting things there that are cool to feel and they're like the travelers of today only through yesterday.
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Yeah.
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Besides all of the staff and the stories is just a super cool place. You know, it is.
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And it's kind of one of those things where you're not really sure if you can just go and visit without being like a guest there.
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Yes.
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You totally can. There's a bar.
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Yes.
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You hang out in the lobby. I mean, don't be disruptive and disrespectful, but.
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Absolutely.
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You can absolutely go in.
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Absolutely.
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It is so unique of what unfortunately now is modern where you know a lot of places will have you know code locks on the door and things like that.
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Now this just goes to that the Benson hotel is our presidential hotel and has been hosting every president since taft.
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So they're used to providing old world charm with modern conveniences and security and things I've never had any disruption or problems around there.
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And it got you walking off the street.
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You can go into their palm court lounge and have a beer or a pop or a micro brew have your Portland experience whether you stay there or not.
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You are free to walk around the lobby. They have a 12 story in essence historical library that you can take the elevator all the way up to the 12th floor and in the stairway.
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You know walk 12 floors down, but you see the presidential gallery. You see the celebrities that have gone through the doors where this place was in Portland history Northwest history.
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It boggles your mind.
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It bogged your mind.
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You're going to have to go back. You have to do it with me because I'm the gal to get you into all the fun nooks and crannies.
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Absolutely. We love the nooks and crannies around here.
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One of the cool ghosts and haunts here is a room attendant, a floor attendant.
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So this has happened over the years. The best version of the story that I heard happened to a gentleman.
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There's been photographic evidence of a room attendant type employee around here. That's what leads me to believe it was a male guest and a male floor attendant.
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So this male guest and this happened around 1990 or something. He was...
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What was that?
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Members only.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'm catching... yeah.
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Yeah.
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Ralph Polo.
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Oh.
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You got it.
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You got it.
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Yeah.
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So the gentleman needed help getting into bed. Now he could change and dress himself of course but his left leg was weak.
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So when he got into bed he could swing his right leg up but he just couldn't swing his left leg up.
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So he had that thought, "Oh, did I arrange when I checked in he couldn't remember. He's dressed in his pajamas and then he hears."
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So he hears two brisk knocks, "Yes, and in walks a floor attendant."
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Oh my goodness! I was just thinking about you. Thank you so much.
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Oh.
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He intended just nods his head and sweeps towards the bed and so the gentleman went over.
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So he sat himself down, he swung his right leg up and so as if he'd been doing it every day of his life, the room attendant just easily took his leg and gently propped it up, stood back.
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So now the guy, you know how long he first get into bed and then you just kind of bun walk yourself to, you know, insert a gap inside.
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So we had that and he looked away, took himself and as he looked up he saw the back of the attendant going out the room door and he thought, "Well, you know, he's, you know, a busy guy this is the time of night that he'd be doing that sort of thing."
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And he had a wonderful rest, wakes up, goes to check out, "You guys know the end of this story."
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Do we?
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It's the reason why he put the doon in his pajamas and that he had to be the chain.
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Yes, because when the gentleman went down and he wanted to make a point to say how much he appreciated that service of the attendant,
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the person downstairs at the desk is, "What?"
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"Pensary letter."
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"Aren't you this?"
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"Yes, yes, excuse me, so the crazy person said what?"
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"Exactly."
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And so he described the person and things and they haven't had those floor attendants since the 1950s.
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And the room he had.
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He was wearing his very distinctive and I believe there's pictures of staff, group pictures of staff in that stairway kind of a thing.
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But one of the bartenders has gotten a photo of this entity and it's the same as what this person saw.
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And so remember I was telling you this hotel was built under very, you know, you got the, the German staff, the regimented.
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So the floor attendants, their uniforms are going to look different than if you have ballet.
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Of course.
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So how else are you supposed to classify?
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How do you do the cross survive without these rules?
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So bell hops would have a little monkey hat, you know.
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But a floor attendant doesn't because a bell hop goes outside in the rain or floor attendants don't.
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So the floor attendant would have the same the buttons, but the floor attendant may have one stripe on say the uniform.
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Maybe his manager may have two, but there's very distinct uniforms and things.
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So this floor attendant that has been seen and videotaped appears in the uniform of the day.
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Isn't that cool?
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That's really cool.
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I'm like, did they identify him from the pictures?
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Did they have the clothes?
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So Simon Benson has been seen in a younger form in a lumberjack form down below the, where some of the convention rooms are.
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A lumberjack?
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In a corner where they keep the alcohol for the bar and things.
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So one of the bar.
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Oh, you mentioned lumberjack and alcohol and you actually can't hear you now.
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A lumberjack?
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I'm in a lumberjack.
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She's not hearing a word that you're saying because the land hole is closed.
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Exactly.
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What's not to look?
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They got the beards.
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It's just a whole vibe.
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A lumberjack, they just smell like one giant air freshener.
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Let's do it.
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Smell like wood.
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You smell like man.
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So when Simon Benson appears as a lumberjack, he's like in his 20s, very younger.
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But he will be seen walking, striding purposely through a door that leads to a storage where they just keep chairs and banquet tables.
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Oh, sure.
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All the events stuff.
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Yeah.
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So maybe back originally there could be a pass through or something.
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Sure.
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Well, I mean building has been renovated so many times at that point too.
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Yeah.
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But the actual building itself has not changed.
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So with the renovations, everything is exactly how it is today as when it was built back then.
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Wow.
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So that's where all of this wood, all of this marble, all of this crystal, that can soak up the metaphysical stuff.
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Now.
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So we were talking about what we were standing at the bar, having a drink.
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You're like, it's really warm in here.
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And I was like, I feel like that happens in a lot of older buildings when there's this much wood paneling and things like that.
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Because I think it holds in a lot of the humidity.
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And just it came.
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Yeah.
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And I'm also a believer too that everybody says, oh, it's a cold spot because they're kind of converting the heat from the air or that energy.
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And that's leaving it.
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But what can we say that they're also manipulating the heat?
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Yeah.
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Right.
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I feel like sometimes it's like a stuffiness that I get.
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Yeah.
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More like a heavy nut that I get.
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Oh, now I'm struggling to drive a breath.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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That makes more sense.
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I feel like I'm in Florida.
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And that's our nightmare.
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It's moist and thick.
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That's a good way to put it.
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Sorry, we said the voice.
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There's only one stairway on this end when many of the hotels would have two stairways.
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Yeah.
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But you don't have anything going to the rooms up there.
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So I'm assuming that was just by design and that sort of thing.
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But you feel like an elegant grand lady imagine going down in your ball, down her soul.
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So I start feeling kind of odd stuff around here.
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Like it's cool.
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I start feeling like I'm a gorgeous redhead from Ireland.
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Yeah.
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And I was wondering to tell the story of the lady in her voice.
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So nobody really knows if Mr. Benson knew the history of this mirror, but he did find it in Germany.
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It's gorgeous.
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And he brought it from Germany to here.
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So shortly after installing this, what they would see is a beautiful woman in a turquoise gown.
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And sometimes they would notice that she's coming down the stairs, but oftentimes she just would seem to appear here.
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Now this little lady floated around.
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Exactly.
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This grand mirror.
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You can just imagine your beautiful gowns that are being admired and you are, you know, preening a little bit, which she does.
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And so then she will either turn and walk down the stairs, disappearing about there.
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Over, she turns and walks into the mirror where you will see her.
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Now she will pure wet and turn and then walk on.
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If she walks down here, you do not see her reflection in the mirror.
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What's that all about?
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It's a really great question.
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I know and I don't have an answer for you.
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So then we go outside and we go here, the story of the bubblers, which I did not know were actually called Benson Bubblers.
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Yeah.
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We always just call them bubblers.
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Bubblers.
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They're little waterfountains all over Portland.
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So you can get a little free drink drink if you're parched.
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Drink any drink and I had never, I had never put these gorgeous lips on the bubblers before because you're not supposed to.
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Don't put your lips on it.
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Well, I mean on the water, whatever.
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I never got my lips close to the bubblers before because they are public waterfountains.
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Yeah, waterfounts, that's what they're called.
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Yeah.
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I think that just seems really gross to me but Caitlyn did it.
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She was very parched and I was like, well, solidarity, she gets really sick.
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I'm getting sick too.
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I'm going to go in and tongue this thing and just see what it's all about.
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And I did it.
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And we both lived.
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Yeah, we're still here.
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We're here for now to tell the tale of how we sucked from the Benson Bubblers.
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Boy, that's a lot.
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That is a lot.
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But it is really cool.
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It's really nice to have a fresh water source for people.
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Yeah.
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Maybe more cities should have that.
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I mean, obviously during COVID times, like, did they turn them off during COVID?
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I feel like that's my recollection.
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I'm not sure.
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Now I'm like, Google it.
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Yeah, Google that.
433
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:47,000
My research indicates that, yes, in fact, they did in apparently a very historic.
434
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:52,000
Move, turn the Benson Bubblers off.
435
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,000
Here's the thing.
436
00:42:54,000 --> 00:43:01,000
They turned them off, like, basically the same day that the state home orders were issued.
437
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,000
So that was like March 13th.
438
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:08,000
They were trying to stop the spread of COVID-19.
439
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:16,000
And then just over a month later in April, April 17th, 2020, they were going to be in the state home order.
440
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,000
And then they were going to be in the state home order.
441
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,000
And then they were going to be in the state home order.
442
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,000
And then they were going to be in the state home order.
443
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,000
And then they were going to be in the state home order.
444
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,000
And then they were going to be in the state home order.
445
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,000
And then they were going to be in the state home order.
446
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,000
And then they were going to be in the state home order.
447
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,000
And then they were going to be in the state home order.
448
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,000
And then they were going to be in the state home order.
449
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,000
And then they were going to be in the state home order.
450
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,000
And then they were going to be in the state home order.
451
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,000
And then they were going to be in the state home order.
452
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,000
And then they were going to be in the state home order.
453
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,000
And then they were going to be in the state home order.
454
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,000
And then they were going to be in the state home order.
455
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,000
And then they were going to be in the state home order.
456
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,000
And then they were going to be in the state home order.
457
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,000
And then they were going to be in the state home order.
458
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,000
And then they were going to be in the state home order.
459
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,000
I mean, by April, it's not usually super hot here, but...
460
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,000
But it's warming up.
461
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,000
And there's some warmer days.
462
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,000
And you need water even if the whole day.
463
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,000
Yeah.
464
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,000
Well, and I think from the sound of it,
465
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:29,000
they were able to kind of in that period of time,
466
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,000
they were able to sort of learn, I mean,
467
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,000
just the tip of the iceberg.
468
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,000
Like we really didn't know anything about COVID at that point.
469
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,000
Yeah.
470
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:45,000
But in that month, it seems like they were able to determine that it was not being detected in drinking water.
471
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:53,000
And they determined it was basically really low risk using the fountains in terms of transmission.
472
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,000
So something, I just realized to you, I said,
473
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,000
"That's the iceberg.
474
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,000
That's about the title."
475
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,000
Oh!
476
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,000
That was very unconscious.
477
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:08,000
But I was like, "Well, you know, I think we thought at certain points, like,
478
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,000
"Oh, we're starting to understand this COVID thing."
479
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,000
And then it was like, "Bitch, hold my beer."
480
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,000
Which hold my call, Dren.
481
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,000
Exactly.
482
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,000
Exactly.
483
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:23,000
And here are our iconic Benson Bubblers.
484
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,000
Hi, Bubblers.
485
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:29,000
So, when Simon Benson built this grand beautiful hotel,
486
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:42,000
he was also, again, involved in the temperance movement, the prohibition that we started way, way before the rest of the United States.
487
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:48,000
And it was reported that once when he saw a drunkard on the street, he asked the man,
488
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,000
"Why do you have no self esteem?
489
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:57,000
Why do you have no self control to fall prey to the demon drink?"
490
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:05,000
And the guy basically said, "Well, because you can't get a decent glass of water in this town."
491
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:17,000
So, Mr. Benson donated enough of 30 of these drinking fountains throughout the area, along here.
492
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:21,000
Some of them are as grand as six arms,
493
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:28,000
some are as small as a single arm, but the four are pretty standard.
494
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,000
This is hooked up to our city water.
495
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,000
Yay, you can play with it.
496
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,000
You can drink it, but in the days of COVID.
497
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,000
And stuff may be...
498
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,000
How hot it is.
499
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,000
Yep, yep.
500
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,000
I'm gonna give her a try.
501
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,000
Yep.
502
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,000
So, these are really cool.
503
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,000
Yeah, get it.
504
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,000
I'll do it more than one.
505
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,000
So, dry mouth.
506
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,000
Oh, great, great, great, great.
507
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,000
Never done that before.
508
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,000
Oh, you're...
509
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,000
I'm very proud of you.
510
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,000
You were a brave co-star.
511
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,000
Oh, I like that one.
512
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,000
Yeah.
513
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,000
I've lived here my whole life.
514
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:11,000
So, the ladies of the temperance movement, they would walk the streets.
515
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:16,000
Chinatown, Japan, town, the worst parts of Portland.
516
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:21,000
They would have their beautiful white dresses on their black temperance sashes.
517
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:27,000
They would have their bibles, a silver chain with a hammer.
518
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,000
And they would walk the streets.
519
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:34,000
And if they came upon a drunkard on the streets, they would surround them.
520
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:42,000
Open their bibles, invite them to join them in prayer and renounce the demon drink.
521
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,000
If...
522
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,000
I would like to take a drink.
523
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:53,000
If they were refused, then they'd simply turn to another part of their bibles.
524
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:59,000
In tone of a brief, brief prayer.
525
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:06,000
And then, as they surround the gentlemen with their hammers, they would in tone.
526
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:12,000
It is better to be dead on the streets of Portland than drunk on the streets of Portland.
527
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,000
And...
528
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:23,000
On their head, leaving the man lifeless on the streets, and they went to find their nets sold to the same.
529
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,000
No!
530
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,000
Right?
531
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,000
They're not saving you?
532
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,000
Crazy!
533
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,000
Let's go over here.
534
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:36,000
So, we continue on our tour and we stop at a few banks.
535
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,000
Yeah.
536
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,000
We stop at like three different banks.
537
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:44,000
So, the first one has a robbery story, which is Broody and Tens.
538
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,000
Roll and Tens.
539
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:59,000
And so, this tells you the amount of money that came through Portland in the turn of the century after the 1900s, where...
540
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,000
Yeah, you have big banks.
541
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:06,000
You got banks in Salem, but you don't have as big banks and buildings is here.
542
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:13,000
Now, this modern US bank building, that is all a parking structure.
543
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,000
Yeah.
544
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:27,000
When there was a building there, wicked, wicked, haunted, and I'm going to take you around there, tell you some ghost stories from there.
545
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:32,000
This used to be the entrance to a branch bank.
546
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:37,000
This is where a bank robbery occurred.
547
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,000
Is that what everybody?
548
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,000
It was the classic.
549
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,000
The robber comes in, brandishes a gun.
550
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,000
It's a stick-up.
551
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:51,000
Tosses the pillowcase to the first teller, holds the gun and she starts emptying as he moves down.
552
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:56,000
Then, the few people here, there wasn't a guard back then.
553
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,000
Give me your wallet's rings, all that kind of stuff.
554
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,000
He gets to the last teller.
555
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:07,000
She decides, hey, Pacific Northwest, I can take him.
556
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:16,000
So she goes over the counter, is wrestling with the guy through the lobby.
557
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:25,000
She gets the gun from it and shoots it, but he takes out a knife and stabs her in the neck.
558
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,000
I thought it would be another gun.
559
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,000
No, no.
560
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:36,000
So she reels back against elevator shaft two.
561
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:40,000
The doors open, she goes back into the car.
562
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:51,000
Then, a sends up to the third floor where the person that called for the elevator, the doors open, and there she is.
563
00:50:51,000 --> 00:51:00,000
So, that's how they knew that the robbery had happened because the door opens, the guy that called the car.
564
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:11,000
He sees her arterial spray dripping and then they saw what all had happened down there.
565
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:16,000
The robber ran out but was apprehended.
566
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:29,000
She obviously had died now. She is not seen in any way with the exception of the elevators have now been replaced and removed.
567
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:35,000
But from that day on, elevator two, that bank would never work properly.
568
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:40,000
The door would open to the lobby, go out to the floor.
569
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,000
That's right.
570
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:46,000
They would open, close and then just go back down again.
571
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,000
They had it checked out so much.
572
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:53,000
They said there is nothing mechanically or electrically wrong with that elevator.
573
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,000
The first one we're fine.
574
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,000
Always did and things.
575
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:04,000
So, now, down below here, this is all event space and it's empty.
576
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:12,000
Last week, what happened in week for tours and a guy pulled up and he stopped and rolled down his window and he said,
577
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:16,000
"I work in that building. It's crazy haunted."
578
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:22,000
But I couldn't ask specifics. I'm going to tell you another story and that's around the corner.
579
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,000
Okay.
580
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,000
The next one we stop at is the Wells Fargo building.
581
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:34,000
That's the one where it had those huge gates.
582
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,000
Those gorgeous gates.
583
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,000
They were beautiful.
584
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,000
We walk up to them and we're looking inside.
585
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:45,000
We're kind of pushing on the gates and all of a sudden it goes creeeease.
586
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,000
And Kate looks like, "Um, these open."
587
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,000
Did I do that with my mind?
588
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,000
Probably.
589
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,000
Yeah, because we're like, "I wish we could get up closer and then all of a sudden they're like, "I'm sorry, you're too late."
590
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:02,000
She was like, "Uh, yeah, they're locked at this time of night."
591
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,000
They should be locked.
592
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,000
Because it's like a little in between ways.
593
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,000
So there's this big iron gate.
594
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,000
I assume, I don't know what it's made out of.
595
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,000
And then glass doors behind it.
596
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:19,000
Portland, there's some things that happen at night.
597
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:24,000
So I assume they close the gate so that people don't break the glass.
598
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,000
But they were open.
599
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,000
So we go in there and we're looking around and then all of a sudden,
600
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,000
and Kate lands like, "Creeeease."
601
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,000
"I'm going to close us in."
602
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:38,000
We're like, "Oh my God, if we get locked in here, can you imagine?"
603
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,000
What do we say to the police?
604
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,000
We're ghost hunting and we just--
605
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,000
It was soups and accident.
606
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,000
But we didn't get locked in there.
607
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,000
No, we didn't just kidding.
608
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,000
She would never lock us in.
609
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,000
No.
610
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,000
Are you kidding me?
611
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,000
No, I get hungry every 60 minutes.
612
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,000
That would be such a mistake.
613
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,000
Yeah, totally.
614
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:02,000
Although you could probably Uber eats to the little--
615
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,000
Yeah, this way.
616
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,000
They could fit the bags through the--
617
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,000
Or toss it over, you know?
618
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,000
Does it go over?
619
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,000
Like, or was it attached to the top?
620
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,000
We'll see in the footage.
621
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,000
I don't remember.
622
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,000
I feel like we could figure something out.
623
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,000
Just feed you through the little balls in the gate.
624
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,000
I love her.
625
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,000
We're like, "Let's not focus on getting out.
626
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,000
Let's just focus on how we're going to eat when we're stuck."
627
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,000
Well, listen, you have to have your priorities, you know?
628
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,000
And that would have been mine.
629
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:36,000
These are security gates from when this building was first done.
630
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,000
So if you--
631
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:42,000
During the daytime, you can walk in there and you will look and that's the lobby
632
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:46,000
where the bank branch was.
633
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,000
But it's been redone.
634
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,000
They're opening.
635
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:56,000
But now it's just kind of an empty space and it's been modernized and things.
636
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,000
But that's where the telegram goes.
637
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,000
Wow.
638
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,000
Are we going to shut that door?
639
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,000
I'm going to.
640
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,000
I can't hear you.
641
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,000
Don't get us locked in.
642
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:11,000
So one of the stops I didn't really think I would care about is
643
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:16,000
much or really like like, okay, who cares?
644
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,000
It's the Scientology building.
645
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,000
Oh, yeah.
646
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,000
It was actually pretty interesting.
647
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:30,000
And then she told kind of a funny little funny about what haunts the place.
648
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,000
But then me, being me, I was like, let me--
649
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,000
There's cameras.
650
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,000
There's lots of cameras.
651
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,000
Yeah.
652
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,000
Our cameras were not the only cameras.
653
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:42,000
They have cameras.
654
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:47,000
And I was like, oh, should I flip off this camera and say, fuck you Tom Cruise?
655
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,000
Yeah.
656
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,000
Why not?
657
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,000
Why not?
658
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,000
I don't know.
659
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,000
I couldn't think of a lot of reasons why.
660
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:58,000
I feel like this is coming from someone who has not watched like the Leo Bromini.
661
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,000
No, I watched it.
662
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,000
I watched it.
663
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,000
And then that is a choice.
664
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:07,000
This is why I'm terrified that I'm being hunted.
665
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,000
She's like, I knew it was dumb and that's why I'm scared.
666
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,000
So I wanted to tell everybody and make sure everybody knows.
667
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,000
So if I go missing, we know who did it.
668
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,000
Contact what's her name.
669
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,000
What's her name?
670
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,000
Lerminium.
671
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,000
What's her name?
672
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:24,000
Leah Remini.
673
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,000
Thank you.
674
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,000
I think I cannot say it.
675
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,000
That's a crazy documentary.
676
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,000
So I am slightly terrified.
677
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,000
I don't know what possessed me to do that.
678
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,000
Maybe it was the tiny ghost of Tom Cruise.
679
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:34,000
We don't know.
680
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,000
I mean, could they?
681
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:36,000
Yeah.
682
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,000
I don't see that day.
683
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,000
We were out in public.
684
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:47,000
So I guess unless you came across like an inflatable couch or something, you didn't have the option
685
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,000
of doing the full Tommy dance.
686
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,000
But I did up on the roof.
687
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:52,000
Spoiler alert.
688
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:58,000
I did stand on the, like kind of built-in couchy, bentuition.
689
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:59,000
Yeah.
690
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,000
Kind of counts.
691
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,000
Yeah.
692
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:07,000
No.
693
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:11,000
Every Scientology office on the planet or Scientology building has Elrond Puppard's office in it.
694
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:12,000
Oh.
695
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:16,000
Now, I've not heard of anything haunting the building.
696
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,000
Trust me.
697
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,000
Yes.
698
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,000
There's ghosts.
699
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:28,000
There's an entity that has been seen here and it appears to be a small miniature Tom Cruise.
700
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:33,000
I'm not making this up, ma'am.
701
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:39,000
My question is, for sure, because if you were going to make something stupidly for my amusement,
702
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,000
that would be it.
703
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:41,000
That would do it.
704
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,000
But here's my point.
705
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:48,000
How do we know it's not actually Tom Cruise?
706
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:49,000
Right.
707
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,000
Because he's cute.
708
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,000
And he's like, "Oh, I'm in a church."
709
00:57:53,000 --> 00:58:00,000
Like right now, he has those very deep, deep, deep, glistening right now.
710
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,000
No, of course it's so dark.
711
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,000
Can I flip it over?
712
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:06,000
Yeah.
713
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:11,000
So, uh, fuck you, talk about it.
714
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:16,000
They're going to get any of the witness protection.
715
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,000
Dude, I might have to know.
716
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:24,000
A couple other places we stopped at to talk about the Shanghai tunnels.
717
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:29,000
We stopped at kind of like an empty lot that was spenced off and overgrown between a couple buildings.
718
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,000
Yeah.
719
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,000
And there was like an entrance to the tunnels down there.
720
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,000
We got to hear about that.
721
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,000
Ooh, what is this?
722
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:41,000
Now, this is a big old pit, a little underground.
723
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:42,000
A hole.
724
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:47,000
Now we're going to start the story and the history of the Shanghai tunnels.
725
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:51,000
Now I'm sure you know the stories.
726
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,000
So, fill me in.
727
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:54,000
Give me the basics.
728
00:58:54,000 --> 00:59:00,000
There's tunnels and they took people and dragged them and put them on the ships to make them work.
729
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,000
Got it.
730
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:02,000
Got it.
731
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:03,000
I'm liking it.
732
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,000
We're going to fill in the house, too.
733
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:12,000
I like to give my guests enough background that, although I discourage it,
734
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:19,000
it is a lucrative side hustle and in today's economy, every little bit hittles.
735
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:24,000
I think they say that human trafficking is like a multi-billion dollar industry.
736
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:25,000
What's get some of that?
737
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:26,000
Yeah, I'm just saying.
738
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,000
Like I want my cut.
739
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:28,000
Right.
740
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:38,000
So, here's the part of our story where all the modern day is that not only Portland,
741
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:43,000
but any American city struggle with.
742
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:48,000
It's the same ills that we struggled with 150 to 200 years ago.
743
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,000
Addiction.
744
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:53,000
The working poor.
745
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,000
Racism.
746
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,000
Horrid.
747
00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:06,000
Ridiculous laws that really targeted groups of people and was really cruel and halacious.
748
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:11,000
Thankfully, if those laws are still on the books and many are,
749
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:16,000
they have other laws that supersede and overwrite them.
750
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:24,000
So, that's where our laws and things, you don't take a lot off the books.
751
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,000
You just make it no longer relevant.
752
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,000
Yes.
753
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:29,000
Okay.
754
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,000
So, here.
755
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,000
Why it's like illegal to have ice cream on a Sunday.
756
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,000
Exactly.
757
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:35,000
Exactly.
758
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:36,000
Yeah.
759
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,000
Well, why would they name it a Sunday?
760
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:38,000
Yeah.
761
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,000
Exactly.
762
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:40,000
Thank you.
763
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,000
Thank you for the question.
764
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:49,000
So, when I'm talking about the history stuff, I'm wildly simplifying it.
765
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,000
Wildly, okay.
766
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:51,000
We do it all the time.
767
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:52,000
We do it all the time.
768
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:53,000
Okay.
769
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:54,000
Exactly.
770
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:55,000
Exactly.
771
01:00:55,000 --> 01:01:02,000
So, where this empty lot is, and there's a lot of empty lots around here because they no longer
772
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,000
are buildable for modern buildings.
773
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,000
Okay.
774
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,000
This is too small of a footprint.
775
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,000
Modern buildings are going to wipe out all of this block and then build.
776
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,000
I don't want to live here.
777
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:14,000
Right.
778
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:15,000
It's got a nice lawn.
779
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,000
Guys, it is for sale.
780
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:18,000
Right.
781
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,000
No, right.
782
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,000
And you just get married.
783
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,000
Hot compounds.
784
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,000
Right.
785
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:31,000
So, when we're talking about the Shanghai tunnels, we're talking about a connection of tunnels
786
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:36,000
that would link up to basements and sellers all over the city.
787
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:46,000
And the reason that they did that is back in the day, the surface streets, ew, muddy, gross, ew.
788
01:01:46,000 --> 01:02:00,000
Socially, we had the working core, the indentured servitude of the Chinese immigrants that when they were essentially tricked to come over here to the United States.
789
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:03,000
How does it feel to build a railroad?
790
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:04,000
No, it feels like a railroad.
791
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:05,000
It's like a fairy moon.
792
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,000
Exactly.
793
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,000
And it's a very new and unmarked grade.
794
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:10,000
Exactly.
795
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:21,000
And it was easy to get them over here because China was having a famine, a drought.
796
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,000
Their rice crops had failed.
797
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:31,000
And so you have a lot of desperate Chinese bachelors and some of them that brought family over here.
798
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:40,000
So, they are working like the loggers and the miners as well with company stores.
799
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:48,000
So, you might be a Chinese person may earn like a buck over a ridiculously long time.
800
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:53,000
They're not paying them like the white men, but they're not paying the white men very well.
801
01:02:53,000 --> 01:03:00,000
But you have the company store, you have to buy all your stuff from so you can never really get ahead.
802
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,000
Yeah.
803
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:05,000
So, no, you just get further and further behind historically.
804
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:06,000
Exactly.
805
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:12,000
So now, let's put in some really racist laws pertaining only to the Chinese.
806
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,000
I'm going to get to some others.
807
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:19,000
But one of them was the Chinese Exclusion Act.
808
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,000
Chinese people could not own buildings.
809
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:31,000
They could not own businesses unless they vended to other Chinese people.
810
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:39,000
So, that's where you would get your Japan towns and China towns and all of this.
811
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:46,000
They're going to be in the older parts of the city because those are the places that were built first.
812
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:52,000
But they always are the raggedy and so is the city's bill, bill, bill.
813
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:56,000
Hey, we got the good cool buildings up over here.
814
01:03:56,000 --> 01:04:07,000
Well, the way Portland was set up, we just kind of let the riff raff police themselves, run themselves, fight themselves.
815
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:25,000
Nobody really cared because they're not quality citizens like the rich, white, Christian-based, Yankee merchant mentality wealthy men from back to the big sub-sac.
816
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:26,000
Yes, yes.
817
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:36,000
Now, the wealthy men that built Portland and its corruption in the 1800s did not come over the Oregon.
818
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:46,000
Now, they came from wealthy families and oftentimes they were referred to as remittance men.
819
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:55,000
So, when they're young and they're wealthy families, they start going to college or start doing business-y things.
820
01:04:55,000 --> 01:05:07,000
And they will have a scandal so bad that they are literally paid by their families to never get closer than the Midwest.
821
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:10,000
They're paid to disappear.
822
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:16,000
Jonathan Born was one such individual.
823
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:34,000
He was very wealthy, he was from New Bedford and something happened when he went to college that his family bundled his ass off to a whaling ship.
824
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:35,000
Oh, no.
825
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:46,000
He was on a whaler over here or so, but then he made it to Portland and with all his mad stacks of cash back east.
826
01:05:46,000 --> 01:06:00,000
He had a wonderful political career of stuffing that ballot boxes, getting drunk sailors and people to vote to do all these kind of things.
827
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:09,000
He was instrumental in getting the police under the control of Salem and all of this and other men too.
828
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:29,000
So, with the Chinese Exclusion Act, the Chinese couldn't work and so when the tunnels were put in so that a horse and wagon could be under the streets, they would offload the ocean-going ships and that's how they would deliver the city.
829
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:46,000
They would deliver things to all the buildings because in their cellars they would have an opening that would be locked and then you're delivering somebody at open and then they bring it in here.
830
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:49,000
There was a parking lot that we stopped at.
831
01:06:49,000 --> 01:07:06,000
So, we're going to start about the oldest haunts. Remember back in the 1700s when the Pacific Northwest is just getting discovered and everything and everybody's looking for the Northwest passage.
832
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:19,000
Everybody knows that there's got to be a way to go up the west coast and cross Canada somehow, find the Great Lakes and hoop yourself out on the Atlantic.
833
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,000
Right? It has to happen.
834
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:22,000
Totally.
835
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:35,000
There isn't a passage but we found all kinds of beavers and all the kind of fur-bearing animals.
836
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:47,000
Their fur was so much better and superior than what was being used in the day that is what put the Pacific Northwest on the map.
837
01:07:47,000 --> 01:08:15,000
And a fun fact is the stove pipe hats that they would have in the 1800s, you were a status symbol, the taller the hat was and so milleners could now get those cool stove top heights because of our beaver-pealth fur and the type of animals from here that it made a better type hat.
838
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:19,000
Yeah, all the way around. Go USA!
839
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:38,000
So, now when all the Europeans are coming through here, this, most likely that area, was the traditional camping ground of northern Chinook tribes, Native Americans of this area.
840
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:50,000
They were very peaceful when the immigrants came, when the first explorers came up here, they were accommodating, they were a peaceful band and things.
841
01:08:50,000 --> 01:09:05,000
But their camp site most likely was over there but city father said, "No, it was over here. We don't believe that because the EMFs go nuts here but they don't over there."
842
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:17,000
And the reason for that would be is when they were falling victim to the small park and these old blankets.
843
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:46,000
And that, this was before the blankets and kind of during that kind of thing. But what they would do is they dug a big hole here and then they threw the dead and dying Indians in, set it on fire and then kept throwing all of their belongings, everything until it all burned down.
844
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:57,000
And then we covered it up and tried to put buildings up here. Well, there's never been a building that is successful here.
845
01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:08,000
They've burned down now. This has used to be all wood buildings. That burned down. They rebuilt them in wood. That burned down again.
846
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:27,000
And then, oh, now we start the bridge that you see all around. But even with brick buildings, no business could really thrive here. There's been grocery stores. There's been barbers. There's been a small bank. There's been this, that, and the other thing.
847
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:43,000
There's a loon. If a saloon can't make it in this tab. You're drinking a good to him's animal. Now, here's the cool story with that hunt. It's a residual hunt. So it does not interact with people. But no matter...
848
01:10:43,000 --> 01:11:05,000
They're like, yeah, that's a little bit low. And they're done that. But it doesn't matter what time of the year we are here. They appear as though it must be summer because they're in their summer clothes, bear, the man bear arms, bear chest, bear legs. They've got the breach clouds or the leggings or something.
849
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:21,000
The women have... You can see that they've got the distinctive buckskin dress, the fringe. But again, they've got bear arms and moccasins rather than, you know, the leggings they would have worn if it were colder.
850
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:43,000
So what happens, and it usually happens about 1 or 2 a.m. in the morning, you'll see a brownish, sepia-toned cloud form in the middle of that street. As it floats, as it starts crossing the sidewalk, you'll start see a head, an arm, an leg.
851
01:11:43,000 --> 01:12:06,000
And as it crosses the arrow, it becomes a band of Native Americans. They are clean. They appear healthy. They appear peaceful. I get goosebumps because they're standing and walking close as if they're a loving family or a band.
852
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:18,000
And so you can hear them sort of talk, but you can't make out what they're saying, but you don't necessarily hear English. So it may be a dialect of Patois or so.
853
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:28,000
But it is not English. They don't interact with you. If they pass you, you get that bone chill feeling.
854
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:38,000
But it's as though they are reliving a moment of peace and happiness before white men came and after all of them.
855
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:57,000
So that's the part of that story I love that despite all the horrors that were done to the First Nations all over, this band in eternity is that loving familial, that Native Americans, nobody tells us.
856
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:10,000
Nobody tells that story. I think that's just cool. So they had a horrible end, but their goodness survives them.
857
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:13,000
I still think it's good about my decision not to turn.
858
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:21,000
And this is because along here is our gallows. Thank you ladies and gentlemen for bringing up that topic.
859
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:36,000
So gallows would have been permanent structures. That's a Hollywood thing where they show the condemned man going out looking at the through the bars and their building things.
860
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:45,000
Now a lot of gallows may be unimposed building, but oftentimes they wouldn't have a...
861
01:13:45,000 --> 01:14:02,000
They look like executions most often. And so there would be times where they don't have any walls. They may have three walls or not a roof or something in the floors.
862
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:05,000
Always have bunch of holes. So you know how that happened.
863
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:18,000
We actually just talked about a case where they talked about a prisoner who was set to be executed. His cell was at gallows level. And I was like, "Excuse me what?"
864
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,000
"Yeah, yeah."
865
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,000
"What's this now?"
866
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:25,000
And I'm like, "Oh, so the whole time he probably is, he's not watching the building."
867
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:26,000
Yeah.
868
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:36,000
He's seeing them, you know, everybody moving about the space and the gallows are just there, just giving a little...
869
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:37,000
Yeah.
870
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:45,000
And in some places, now I have not found what our gallows looked like.
871
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:56,000
So I cannot tell you whether they are completely enclosed, but I know in many cities they were open air. It was like a fair.
872
01:14:56,000 --> 01:15:00,000
You bring your parents, your kids, grandma, grandpa, the picnic.
873
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,000
Bring the kids.
874
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:02,000
Yeah, I'll follow the kids.
875
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:08,000
Yeah, they're gonna be selling beer, popcorn or whatever.
876
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:16,000
And then in a town like Portland, of course, you're gonna get the gambling and all of that.
877
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:24,000
Who's gonna crack? Who's gonna curse God in country before they put the food over his head?
878
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,000
Oh, yeah, you get the over-unnurse.
879
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:35,000
Yeah. Who's gonna break and beg for mercy before the news goes over their neck or when they drop, how long till they stop kicking?
880
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:36,000
Yeah.
881
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,000
Yeah, you got that kind of stuff.
882
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:39,000
Yeah.
883
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:40,000
Yeah.
884
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:44,000
So this is why they didn't have HBO.
885
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:45,000
Exactly.
886
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:46,000
Exactly.
887
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:51,000
So a lot of creepy things happen in this parking lot.
888
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:54,000
Let's go find another drink. Let's go to town.
889
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:57,000
Yeah. Have you guys been down to Kel's cigar room?
890
01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:00,000
Yes. Well, on the first booze of booze tour I went on.
891
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,000
Years and years and years ago.
892
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:05,000
I went down there on my 21st birthday.
893
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:06,000
Okay.
894
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:09,000
I think I vaguely remember that.
895
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:13,000
Well, you've done your 21st birthday right.
896
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:14,000
You shouldn't.
897
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:21,000
I know. You know what I do vaguely remember is that my life's lesson from that evening was
898
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:26,000
don't drink medurry's hours and then eat buttermilk branch.
899
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,000
Yeah.
900
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,000
Lessons were more.
901
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:34,000
They sure were.
902
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:35,000
Yeah.
903
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,000
Life skills people.
904
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:52,680
So then we went to the Kel's and we got to walk through all of the people enjoying their
905
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,000
delicious smelling food.
906
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:59,000
There was beautiful, like kind of Irish-y music playing, right?
907
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:00,000
Yeah.
908
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:04,000
I mean, obviously not St. Paddy's Day.
909
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,000
It's not like the season.
910
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:10,000
But I feel like they kind of do like a folksy type of music.
911
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:11,000
Yeah.
912
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:15,000
Like live music, not just playing through the speakers.
913
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:16,000
Yeah.
914
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:19,000
So then we go down to the cigar room, which is in the basement.
915
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,000
We get to learn all about that.
916
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,000
All the spooky stories down there.
917
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:28,760
And when Lori is starting to tell us about these spooky stories, what happened in
918
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:30,760
the basement?
919
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:32,760
I do not recall.
920
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,760
I think you know what I'm talking about.
921
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:36,760
Well, okay.
922
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:42,760
So I am constantly putting in eye drops and there was no one else down there.
923
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:43,760
Period.
924
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,760
Not even just no one smoking in there actively.
925
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:48,760
Like we were the only ones down there.
926
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:51,760
Just the four of us.
927
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:59,760
And I kept looking like kind of past her as we were headed towards the other end where the staircase
928
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,760
was on the opposite side of the room.
929
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:06,760
And I just kept seeing like, there's like something cloudy.
930
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:11,760
And I really, like I put in eye drops like two or three times when we were down there,
931
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,760
because like, oh, whenever I have something on my contact.
932
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:15,760
Right.
933
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:16,760
It wasn't on my contact.
934
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:17,760
Oh, no.
935
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:22,760
Because as soon as we went upstairs, I like never had an issue again after that.
936
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:27,760
Oh, so you saw like like a blurry, like something.
937
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:28,760
Yeah.
938
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:30,760
And it kept moving.
939
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:31,760
It did at a point.
940
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,760
And then it just kind of like disappeared.
941
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:40,760
Which was why I was like, oh, like maybe it's just my contact or you know, but I was like,
942
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:42,760
no, smoke dispersed.
943
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:47,760
Yeah, it was very strange.
944
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:52,760
I had already been seeing it and then she starts talking about it and I was like, oh, God.
945
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:53,760
Yeah.
946
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:54,760
And I'd be out of here.
947
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:55,760
Yeah.
948
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:56,760
Yeah.
949
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,760
Well, and especially like when she was talking about it and kind of describing it, then Chris and I were like,
950
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:02,760
oh, that's kind of like the thing from lost.
951
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:07,760
And she was like, yeah, yeah, actually a lot like that.
952
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:14,760
And then she was like, oh, that's a lot of things.
953
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:19,760
And then she was like, oh, that's a lot of things.
954
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:23,760
And then she was like, oh, that's a lot of things.
955
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:27,760
And then she was like, oh, that's a lot of things.
956
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:32,760
And then she was like, oh, that's a lot of things.
957
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:39,760
And then she was like, oh, that's a lot of things.
958
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:44,760
And then she was like, oh, that's a lot of things.
959
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:48,760
And then she was like, oh, that's a lot of things.
960
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:52,760
And then she was like, oh, that's a lot of things.
961
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:56,760
And then she was like, oh, that's a lot of things.
962
01:19:56,760 --> 01:20:00,760
And then she was like, oh, that's a lot of things.
963
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:05,760
That's stairway for most parts from the street.
964
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:08,760
Go up that stairway to the second floor.
965
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:15,760
The owners of the building, the owners of the business have never experienced anything paranormal,
966
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:17,760
anything unusual.
967
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:25,760
In fact, they kind of peek their heads around the corners when different tour guides are going
968
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:34,760
and they'll make a joke of, I have to listen to the stories of the things I'm supposed to be scared of.
969
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:36,760
And we laugh and think.
970
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:47,760
So, Kels is on the block right next to the creepy parking lot between Oak and Pine.
971
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:57,760
There's been theories that whatever native entities that hang around from the Shanghai tunnels,
972
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:15,760
from the waterfront, all of that from the human trafficking and all of those entities can be a negative spirit that may have been seen in the form of a smoky column.
973
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:21,760
Like the size of a person moving from one doorway to another.
974
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:32,760
So, I kind of imagine if you remember that show lost in the what, 2000s or whatever, where the smoke monster.
975
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:34,760
So imagine something like that.
976
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:50,760
But then the famous Haunt is actually our hero and that was our beloved fire chief from city fire department number one David Campbell.
977
01:21:50,760 --> 01:22:11,760
He tragically and bravely lost his life battling an arson blaze that had started in the early morning hours of 1911 across the Willamette River at the old Union oil storage depot.
978
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,760
There's a fire at the oil storage place.
979
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:16,760
Yeah, that's real bad.
980
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:44,760
This is where you cue the music for the silent movies of the 1900s where you see the the horses running up with the steam pumps and things and the gallant men figuring out try to fight a fire in a building that's made of brick.
981
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:55,760
And all the wood structures such as your staircases, your your roof of trusses and things are made of wood.
982
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,760
And so everything's about ready to fail on you.
983
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:20,760
And so David Campbell asked for volunteers six brave men stepped forward the word and the report was that David led the six men into the inferno with the hopes he had an idea.
984
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:42,760
Maybe they could take polls or so and take a brick wall and see if through sugar brute force they could push this wall onto the blaze and hope that when the building collapsed it helps put out the fire.
985
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:58,760
But as soon as they got approaching to this key area they heard a tremendous crack and David Campbell knew as they all did the building was beginning to fail right then.
986
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:21,760
So David Campbell commanded the volunteers to turn around and escape which they did all six men ran out of the building they were able to safely cross the street get around the corner of the building directly across the street from the.
987
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:48,760
Oil depot one of the last men he poked his head around the corner he saw fire chief Campbell just as he emerged from the depth of the building illuminated in the doorway when the explosion happened and the building collapsed down on David Campbell.
988
01:24:48,760 --> 01:25:04,760
All of the other firemen and stand buyers nobody was injured David Campbell was the only fatality the top of the storage silo landed two miles away.
989
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:29,760
And the debtor and splinters from the explosion rain down on Portland David Campbell's funeral was the largest to be ever attended up till then was a prominent woman that had a business out of the what's now the society hotel.
990
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:54,760
The ghost of David Campbell has never been seen at the original city fire department it is rumored that building is very very haunted as is the building that the current department one fire department building is very very haunted but David Campbell has been seen on many occasions at Kels.
991
01:25:54,760 --> 01:26:23,760
And he shows himself to other firemen as a full body deparation so it happened so frequently that it's been reported if you are a fireman or an EMT or somebody and you're drinking a beer you will look up and see David Campbell either dressed in his firefight turnouts drinking a beer or.
992
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:44,760
Or he may be in his fire captains clothing and if he sees you he hoist his beer that you hoist you drink he puts his drink down you put your drink down and when you turn and look back he's gone.
993
01:26:44,760 --> 01:27:10,760
There's a modern day poster we have a we had a bear knuckles a bike club here in Portland that at the time of his death these boxing matches happened in the sellers of all businesses and saloons in Portland St. John's all around.
994
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:27,760
It was reported at the time of his death he was the reigning champion and in Kels there is a poster of an event I think that happened in like 1990 or something where there's two boxers the gentleman in the black
995
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:37,760
Liatards and the bear chest who's facing towards the other boxer is the visage of David Campbell.
996
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:51,760
So when you see this reported hot that picture was based on I believe his obituary picture and so people recognize that's David Campbell.
997
01:27:51,760 --> 01:28:01,760
That is so cool that they have that to like reference back to yeah yeah yeah he's also been seen looking off in a corner looking sort of stern.
998
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:19,760
Then they think that's him hanging around Kels if there's any negative entities or because the cigar room is part of the tunnels complexes and all of that you
999
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:35,760
get that feeling of the tunnels and that's where the night manager of Kels I believe his name is Jonathan he didn't believe in ghosts but he was down in the cigar room it
1000
01:28:35,760 --> 01:29:01,760
was closing out the charge machine down there as he's waiting at her to school he looks up into the mayor and standing to his right slightly behind him is the reflection of a guy he turned and look there was nobody there but he still was in the mayor
1001
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:23,760
and he disappeared so that guy is a believer so gotta be now yeah yeah that's what's so cool about whether you work at these places or frequent these places sometimes they have to get to know you a little bit before they'll start revealing themselves to you and oftentimes they're like
1002
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:45,760
trickster spirits or things and but they don't want to scare you they don't want to drive you from the the businesses so that's what I love is if you come with a spirit of fun they're willing to welcome you too so David Campbell is kind of my little would be boyfriend
1003
01:29:45,760 --> 01:30:09,760
so you don't think that that smoke the smoke entity and him are the same even though they appear in the same area no okay no no and other things that you hear like player pianos and that kind of thing so not everything's a demon not everything that appears
1004
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:34,760
right big and nasty is scary you respect it you know I don't provoke things and that's one of the philosophies on our tours is you know I tell my guests on my tours there I treat them as performances that are including the kindred souls on the streets and so you're gonna
1005
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:58,760
draw to you and yeah so some people I've had the last couple of weeks I've been having some pretty wild experiences and so of my guests I saw partial body apparition from the knees down the knees and shoes and the feeling of being approached a couple of people have felt
1006
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:19,760
odd things in their chest and emotions and things so you know is the season whoa the streets are heating up baby heat know you're definitely just gonna come out to Portland ghosts and you just have to take a haunted pub crawl or our polter
1007
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:45,760
guys and psychopath tour and you know experience some ghosties for yourself exactly and will link where you guys can find everything we did not even touch like the tip of the iceberg of what's on these tours like we didn't spoil everything for you guys so it's totally worth it to go on again if you're a tourist if you live in Portland like it's such a great tour to learn all the history
1008
01:31:45,760 --> 01:32:05,760
of the things about Portland that you just didn't know walking through it day to day so and then at the end of the night as things were winding down we kind of were going to this place where she wanted to take us on the roof and they were closed and we're like all man boomer
1009
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:13,760
and then someone comes out and it's like hey Laurie do you want to go up to the roof with your your group and we're like yes.
1010
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:24,760
What kind of question is that of course of course we want to go to the roof I'm touching my mind we're so nervous we all of the hand movements the bounciness I'm talking about.
1011
01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:53,760
So we go up to the roof and it's just got the most not the most gorgeous view I'm sure there's more yeah better more better views more better but it has a gorgeous view of Portland yeah I just it's a cool area to yeah so I feel like there's a lot to look out on that's maybe not in the traditional sense like the most scenic of views but it's visually so interesting yeah
1012
01:32:53,760 --> 01:33:10,760
kind of captures on like the skyline like how kind of cool the city of Portland is all the sparkling lights yeah it was gorgeous artsy artsy stuff on the sides of building yeah in what net up on this roof we do the
1013
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:24,760
video reading yeah and we get just the most perfect card that you'll you'll hear all about it it was really cool yeah it was the perfect end to the night it was calming up there it just kind of like wrapped
1014
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:36,760
everything up especially when we did like the interpretation of the tarot just wrapped everything up nicely and then we walk down I don't know if the audio was very good in the stair the stairwell
1015
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:49,760
but we kept going down the stairs we took the elevator up and then we took the stairs down and like they were so uneven my gosh you go down it like gets older and older feeling yeah
1016
01:33:49,760 --> 01:34:02,760
like wooden stairs they're all like uneven so I was getting like crazy vertigo yeah makes us like see sick yeah and I'm so scared of trying movement yeah you're you're trying so
1017
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:20,760
hard to like sort of steady yourself yeah it's very it's very unnerving but there was so much cool shit all over like decorating the wall articles and old photos there was a thing on the like
1018
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:30,760
there's a little like alcove yeah underneath the stairs yeah have like old suitcases and like a bird like it old dead bird with the eggs and a nest I thought that was my
1019
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:43,760
favorite part of course I bring that up a very unique specimen yeah it's cool yeah I am not a car shop so when I do that I just kind of do this slap shop a little
1020
01:34:43,760 --> 01:35:07,760
bit more lazy I need be need jelly be need you can have to speak I'm any region we usually just pull one but it's up to you for filling
1021
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:29,760
I felt a little tingley seven of cups it is new possibilities fantasy illusion meditation and decisions also associated with Venus the number seven Pisces Scorpio and cancer water
1022
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:43,760
did you pull it up right yeah so cups are what emotions that's intuition it's so with the intuition and things that goes back to the
1023
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:59,760
um the Romani stuff the water well you know the the ships and things it looks like a ghost coming out of the cup sweet spirit so all of the people that lost their
1024
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:09,760
lives there's a dragon these images are so small that there's like a snake a dragon so that iconography is very good because remember in Chinese
1025
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:27,760
or a dragon is a very powerful protector it's a very powerful defender but also is a strong ally in battle personal battles and things we have outside this building
1026
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:47,760
Old Portland tried to put together a Chinese effigy to honor the history so this was like in the 80s or something the ornamental street lights the red Chinese
1027
01:36:47,760 --> 01:37:06,760
those were put in an 86 87 our ornamental Chinese gate was put in an 86 87 so it about this time before the year of the dragon exactly I did not know that but yeah yeah was born in 88 so here on this kind of weird
1028
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:29,760
closed streets they put together they tried to put together a art installation that was they got an artist from I think Seattle who had no Chinese background he didn't do any Chinese
1029
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:50,760
research or so so he takes the dragon image and in essence puts a big metal spiked collar on it put it in a fierce position chained it down and he was saying something about oh this shows how the
1030
01:37:50,760 --> 01:38:12,760
symbolism of the strength and the power of the Chinese people but it looked a lot like if you set out to take the Chinese dragon and turn it into something hideous it would be like oh let's make a sculpture of a bald eagle let's
1031
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:33,760
shame it spread eagle it and then take the American flag and stick it up but it was basically you know like that so the Chinese community was a gast when they unveiled it right so then word was that when they tried to change it around they had
1032
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:51,260
another ceremony this time the the sculptures are covered and so when the ceremony starts the covers came down it's the same sculpture but here guys with chain saws are now cutting the dragons head off and now every
1033
01:38:51,260 --> 01:39:19,260
way can you just stop trying to honor the the Chinese people because you're doing it so yeah really bad at it yeah so where that was before 2019 and everything there were times it was supposed to be now gas powered flames kind of like eternal flame things and then the riots
1034
01:39:19,260 --> 01:39:45,060
happened and we can set things on fire with this and now we can not have nice things but I'm liking the the dragon the ghost the water did you go believe yeah so some symbols on the seven of Cubs card and their possible meanings include castle or tower can
1035
01:39:45,060 --> 01:40:01,060
represent power stability or ones native land power and so yeah and treasure word can represent well to your native land yeah yeah can represent wealth and abundance
1036
01:40:01,060 --> 01:40:26,260
and moral can represent victory honor and status show like school like shadow on the cup oh can point to the dangers of vanity and pride oh my gosh dragon can symbolize evil anger envy and calamity we
1037
01:40:26,260 --> 01:40:43,960
all of the stuff and I believe we are like the perfect card with all of these different that's right this is interesting I've never heard this about Cubs but it makes sense thinking about this almost being like a place of spiritual guidance in a way with the
1038
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:57,960
harmony exactly exactly times Cubs were a symbol of the clergy so Cubs cards can also be interpreted as having to do with spiritual or religious matters
1039
01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:18,660
sweet never did there was a dude yelling at us about God on the street on our way over here the cycle yeah oh my gosh well should we we didn't really acknowledge the fact that we were wearing costumes other than we played with my
1040
01:41:18,660 --> 01:41:33,600
work the beginning but I suppose we are because Halloween isn't just a few days yeah this comes out on I think the 29 excellent so we thought we dress up for you we're gonna do we did a
1041
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:47,100
patreon bonus we're gonna do a normal bonus for the for the normal for everybody for the normies on the normie feed I love the normie feed and we're gonna stay
1042
01:41:47,100 --> 01:41:57,100
dressed up we're just dress up for all three these things just dress in it up and Caitlin didn't have a costume so she copied me yeah I was like okay well I can just wear my
1043
01:41:57,100 --> 01:42:08,100
which hat and one of my witchy shirts and then I went back into the closet and I was like oh fuck until you showed up and you actually like put on your
1044
01:42:08,100 --> 01:42:21,940
banal jose yeah I was like oh shit I've had this shirt my closet forever it was just like given to me randomly I've never really worn it and I was like it was meant for this
1045
01:42:21,940 --> 01:42:33,980
moment perfect yeah I'm so glad I do like to match with people so it's fun it is fun yeah well should we get out of here and let everyone have like their fun
1046
01:42:33,980 --> 01:42:43,460
Halloween time this week are we not they're fun Halloween time we are definitely part of it okay well I can't entertain you all week you got to go find your own
1047
01:42:43,460 --> 01:42:51,220
business today sure yeah I mean we do still have day jobs so we busy yeah whatever whatever you guys can do to help us with that
1048
01:42:51,220 --> 01:43:02,660
have the creepy ass Halloween we'll see you next Tuesday yes where Halloween will be over and everyone will be sad again
1049
01:43:02,660 --> 01:43:13,380
all right well thanks everybody and boy Cassie I really appreciate it hanging out with you guys and the rest of your listeners I'm out happy
1050
01:43:13,380 --> 01:43:28,860
creepy ass day everybody and happy birthday Lori I know it was your birthday a couple of days ago it was on Sunday and it was the best so good yeah it's all
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