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Paranormal Encounters in California’s Redwoods: From Ghost Towns to Bigfoot

Paranormal Encounters in California’s Redwoods: From Ghost Towns to Bigfoot

This week, we're heading to California—where they know how to party… with ghosts! 👻🎉 Join us as we explore eerie and fascinating sites in the vast expanse of the Redwood Forests. But some of the “ghosts” here might not be what you expect. Not to...

This week, we're heading to California—where they know how to party… with ghosts! 👻🎉 Join us as we explore eerie and fascinating sites in the vast expanse of the Redwood Forests. But some of the “ghosts” here might not be what you expect. Not to mention this is a hot spot for Big foot sightings!🦶

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People have found windmill parts, bottles, dishes,

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bash tubs, like literally just like creepy

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bath tubs laying in the forest.

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- Okay, will any bathtub in the forest

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is gonna be creepy?

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- But you know what I think when I see that?

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- What I see. - a Cialis commercial?

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(laughing)

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- Are you ready?

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It's time.

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We happened upon a bath tub in the woods.

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I just think like what a cool like witchy photo

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she thought of me.

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- Oh, 1000%.

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But it would make a great photo shoot

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because that's undeniably weird and kind of creepy.

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- It is creepy.

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You wanna know what else is creepy?

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(dramatic music)

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- Hi, Caitlyn.

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Hi, Cassie.

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- Hi, creepy people.

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- Hellooooo.

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- If you're new to our creepy corner of the world,

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this is PNW Haunts and Homicides,

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where we chat about true crime, I don't know what that was.

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We chat about true crime, the paranormal,

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and all things spooky in the Pacific Northwest.

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- That we do.

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We also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode

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for a little bit of deeper insight into our topic.

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- The topic that is from the Pacific Northwest.

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(laughing)

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- Cassie, you didn't know.

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Or what is it, PNW?

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- PNW if you're nasy.

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- Yeah, I think we should add saying that every time.

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- Okay, Shite, do you want me to just do a second

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take?

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- I like us talking about it.

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I feel like that's perfect.

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- Okay.

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(laughing)

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- Amazing.

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I like to be real here.

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We like to show people the ins and outs of our show.

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- Yup.

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- All the innards and outards.

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Okay, we like that.

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- Yeah.

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- I wish you could see the innards and outers

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of the pod lab right now.

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- Oh yeah.

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- She's in quite a state.

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Maybe we'll take some pictures and--

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- Yeah, progress picks.

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- As you can tell by the wall, we're still not quite done.

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- Yeah.

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- Decorating and everything.

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We've got some equipmental things going on.

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So.

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- Yup, that's the word.

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- Yup, and we've got one side of the room

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that has some brand new acoustical foam tiles.

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They're right above your head, so it's hilarious.

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I am gonna be so distracted by those.

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- You know what, when I walked in,

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I thought it was a flat screen and I was like, finally.

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- A TV.

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- I thought we got monitors above our heads

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so we could see each other.

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I mean, see ourselves.

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- That's hilarious.

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- I mean, for like a split second.

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- I didn't like actually think you guys would do that.

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- Yeah.

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That would be really weird because it also

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is partially on the ceiling.

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So it's like the wall and the ceiling.

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It also wraps around the corner wall.

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So, I mean, that would be quite the flat screen.

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- And not at all flat.

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- I didn't quite see the other parts.

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I just saw the black on the wall and the flat.

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- Huh.

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- And I got excited for a split second.

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- Yeah, a split pea of a second.

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- A split second.

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- I don't wanna take that from you.

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- You're still loud.

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- I'm still loud.

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- Mr. car out there.

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- Yeah, we do have some brand new curtains

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'cause it's helping us influence the light.

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So the Cassie doesn't have to squint by midday

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as the sun changes position.

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- Yeah.

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- There also supposed to be sound dampening

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which I do feel like we're noticing a difference already

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but it's very slight.

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- Yeah, we'll see during editing what happens.

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- Yeah, yeah.

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You know, I really think it's the other half

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of the acoustical tiles.

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That's, wow, that's gonna be the game changer.

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- I think so.

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- Yeah.

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- It's only for a voice echo a little bit.

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- Yeah, I think so.

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- I don't know what it's called when you're a voice.

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- Reverb.

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- Reverbs around the room.

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- The reverbs.

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- Well, I must know.

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Who are you wearing under the table?

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(laughs)

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- Okay, so I'm wearing these very comfy,

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Lengie pajama shorts.

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- Yes, those, not what you meant.

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- Do they have rhinestones on them?

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Are they sparkly?

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- They don't know.

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- Are they shiny?

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Then I don't care.

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- Oh, okay.

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So you meant the shoes.

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- I meant the shoes.

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- Okay, 'cause I'm trying to break in my wedding shoes

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right now.

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(laughs)

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- She's been wearing them all day,

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just talking about them.

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- Oh my gosh.

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- Look at my shoes, look at my shoes.

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- Okay, so I've only been wearing them for a couple of hours

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but to be fair, I did run into the bathroom

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while she was finishing her makeup

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and do a full high kick

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so that we could look at my shoe in the mirror.

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And that was, as you can imagine,

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I'm sure quite the challenge because I'm five feet tall

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and yeah, it's a feat of physics

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to get my foot up into the mirror,

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but it's a feat of physics to look at.

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- I didn't even think about that.

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- For all five feet of Caitlyn

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to look at her own feet, your five feet, right?

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- Yeah, five foot, yeah.

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- I don't wanna make you taller than you actually.

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- I mean, God forbid.

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- Yeah.

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- When my thoughts go to my head,

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I assume that if you get much taller than that,

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the air's just gotta be thinner out there, you know?

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- You know, I've grown about an inch in my adult life

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from, you know, elongating my spine,

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like making things where they actually should be

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instead of all crumpled up.

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- Oh.

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- And you know, I gotta say, I got some elevation sickness

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from it, like I,

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- Okay, so she's mocking me.

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- Great.

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- I thought that was genius.

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- No, it was good.

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It was good.

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- You know you're good.

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- Okay.

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- What are we talking about today?

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It's my episode.

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- Yeah.

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- So I think this week we're gonna go down to California.

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- Oh.

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- Why?

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- I don't know.

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- 'Cause they know how to party.

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- Oh.

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- They do know how to party.

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- And they also have ghosts.

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- So.

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- Oh, okay.

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- I forgive you for that.

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- Not you, Cassie.

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I forgive California.

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- I was like, oh, okay, cool.

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All I have to do is give her a party

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and then I'm forgiven.

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I'm already having a party pretty soon.

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I don't know if you've heard.

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- Where we're going is about 250 miles north

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of San Francisco.

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- San Fran, if you nasty.

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- Some of these might not be traditional ghosts.

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- So they're like weird ghosts.

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Like they're keep it weird ghosts.

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Like they're like.

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- I bet like you can never guess in a million years.

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Like what kind of ghosts I'm gonna talk about.

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- Okay.

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- I guess I'll just let you tell me.

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- Yeah.

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So none of these are ghosts.

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Like they would be a spirit of a person.

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Oh.

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What?

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I'm not gonna tell you.

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Well, I'm gonna tell you eventually.

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But we'll get there.

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We do have some real ghosts too.

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It's a real variety show this one.

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I, okay.

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I don't know if I should be nervous or excited.

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You should be both.

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That's a lot of feelings.

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And I think you know how I feel about feelings.

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You feel them.

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Headwaters forest reserve is 7,472 acres

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of protected old growth redwood forest.

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Oh, gorgeous.

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Which is also home to threatened species.

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Like coho salmon, the northern spotted owl,

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and marbled merlet.

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Murrelet.

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And I had no clue what that was.

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So obviously I googled it.

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Google says it's a small squat seabird

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with a short neck and tail.

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Giving the body a blocky shape.

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It has a thin pointed bill and

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an in-flight rather long narrow wings.

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You can Google it if you wanna see it.

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I was gonna say, why do I feel so attacked

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by this description?

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Like I feel like you're describing my body type.

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And funny, we were just talking about that earlier.

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How's it spelled?

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So marbled like your favorite thing.

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And the merlet, MU, R-R-E, L-E-T.

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Oh, okay.

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It's just like a, it looks like a bird.

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Like a fox.

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And like a pigeon.

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And how to baby?

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I was thinking like a kid tried to draw a duck

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but like couldn't really do it, right?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Pigeon 2 I see.

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Yeah.

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Very interesting.

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Google it everyone.

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Or you know, we can put some pictures on it.

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It's a picture now.

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Yeah.

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If you want to, I have no pressure.

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We should, but I feel like we should post a picture of it.

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They're like kind of cute.

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We should do a story and be like, can anyone name this bird?

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There you go.

261
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Cheating.

262
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No, changing.

263
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There is a hiking trail here called Elk River Trail.

264
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In this trail has its very own ghost town.

265
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Okay.

266
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So not the traditional ghost.

267
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It's just a ghost town.

268
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That doesn't mean it has ghosts in it.

269
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That just means there's no people.

270
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Got it.

271
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Right.

272
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Okay.

273
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Right.

274
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Here I was thinking, I'm like, is this about animal ghosts?

275
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Is this like puppies and kittens and is this like a patronus episode?

276
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Yeah, basically.

277
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No, I'm sorry.

278
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All right.

279
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Maybe later, no spoilers.

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The logging town of Falk formed in the 1860s was home to 400 people.

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A lot of people.

282
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A lot of people.

283
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A lot of people.

284
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But it was the 1860s.

285
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So there wasn't like that many people around.

286
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I mean, I guess.

287
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Yeah.

288
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I feel like I have that many cousins.

289
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Or they all come into the wedding.

290
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We're going to bring it back to the wedding.

291
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No, they're not invited.

292
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Pretty much all of my cousins.

293
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So we can leave that joke in because it won't be offensive to anyone.

294
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The town was formed when Noah Falk opened the Elk River Mill and Logging Company.

295
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So they were coming in and tearing all of the old growth trees down, which like back

296
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them.

297
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That's what they did.

298
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But thank goodness now they're protected.

299
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Yeah.

300
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The town obviously had some homes and a general store, but it also had a cook house, a post office,

301
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and a dance hall.

302
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Ooh.

303
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No one stopped in these lumberjacks from dancing.

304
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And my dancing shoes are out of here.

305
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Your dancing shoes.

306
00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:30,120
It reminds me of that little bonus we did.

307
00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:31,120
Yeah.

308
00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,120
Oh my God.

309
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The fight at the dance hall.

310
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Oh, the beaver fight.

311
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Join our Patreon if you must know.

312
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Oh my God.

313
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And you simply must.

314
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It's really good.

315
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That was so good.

316
00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,480
Like if you literally pay us a dollar for a month, just to listen to that.

317
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Like I think it's worth it.

318
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I think it's worth it.

319
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I mean, if you want to give us more then.

320
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Yeah.

321
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I mean, it's a gr- I just think it's like the funniest story.

322
00:11:58,840 --> 00:11:59,840
It is.

323
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It's a good one.

324
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You did a good job.

325
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Yay.

326
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Good.

327
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I did a good, gold star on your shoe.

328
00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:07,880
Ah.

329
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Once cars became more of a thing, people from the isolated town started moving to a larger

330
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town nearby.

331
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Eureka!

332
00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:17,520
Oh.

333
00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,680
Why did I say it like a Oprah?

334
00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:23,560
I mean, I kind of like it.

335
00:12:23,560 --> 00:12:26,040
I feel like that's how you should say Eureka.

336
00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:27,800
That's how it's pronounced, right?

337
00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:28,800
Eureka?

338
00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:29,800
Yeah.

339
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Okay, cool.

340
00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:39,400
And with the depression doing its damn thing, the mill closed in 1937, which it did save

341
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the trees and the people were moving anyway.

342
00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,040
So I feel like it was kind of fine.

343
00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,040
Yeah.

344
00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,400
Maybe not for the owner.

345
00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:47,400
I'm sorry Noah.

346
00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,200
Yeah, it's a bummer.

347
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If he was even still the owner, then I don't know.

348
00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:52,400
Mr. Falk.

349
00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:53,400
Yeah.

350
00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:59,920
Eventually, time and the forest decayed the abandoned buildings of Falk.

351
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The owners of the land couldn't have curious thrill seekers or hornetineaters all up on

352
00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,720
their property, fallen through floors and shit.

353
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You know how they are.

354
00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,240
Not a good time.

355
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So they hired caretakers, Charlie and Loleta a Webb.

356
00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:18,320
Loleta.

357
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Loleta.

358
00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:20,840
I think that's how you say it.

359
00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,120
- LOL, ETA.

360
00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,560
- LOL, Loleta. - ETA.

361
00:13:25,560 --> 00:13:28,000
(laughs)

362
00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,820
- So what's your ETA, Loleta?

363
00:13:29,820 --> 00:13:31,580
- LOL, what is your ETA?

364
00:13:31,580 --> 00:13:35,200
- It said that Charlie would chase people off

365
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with a shotgun, but it was a shotgun of rock salt,

366
00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,360
not like actual bullets.

367
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So that's almost worse.

368
00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,480
- Well I'm starting to think maybe he was chasing ghost off,

369
00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,400
like maybe he thought he was chasing ghost off

370
00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,520
and using a rock salt gun like in supernatural.

371
00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,960
Wait, maybe he thought he was chasing ghost off?

372
00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,480
- Yeah, like maybe he was seeing like humans,

373
00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,640
like a trespassing dude was like,

374
00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,240
"Oh, there's ghost off."

375
00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,320
(laughs)

376
00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,080
- I don't know, I'm not Charlie.

377
00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:04,920
- Really?

378
00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:05,760
- Yeah.

379
00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,640
- When he passed away, they decided since no one was around

380
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to take care of all the buildings,

381
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that they were just tear them down.

382
00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,000
They did leave the caretakers house

383
00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,000
and the railroad round house.

384
00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,520
- Oh, which I was like, I don't know.

385
00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,360
Is that like a wrestling move?

386
00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:22,360
Like a...

387
00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,440
(laughs)

388
00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,080
- I was just like, I don't know what a round house is.

389
00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,320
Like literally round shape?

390
00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,200
- Yeah, so I googled it and around houses,

391
00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,240
like something I asked for the trains to go through

392
00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,960
and it would kind of like be like a sea or like a you.

393
00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,760
I don't think it was totally circular.

394
00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:44,440
- Oh, it's like almost like a covered like,

395
00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,640
like when you go to the station,

396
00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,640
you're just bleeding out the...

397
00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:49,480
- Stop.

398
00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,240
- My God, words are so hard.

399
00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,280
- Quick Google, I think that's what it is.

400
00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,680
If it is something else, you are free to email me

401
00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,920
and let me know or comment or something.

402
00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,960
- Or if you really like our British accents,

403
00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,040
like we just got an email,

404
00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,320
I thought that emailing I wanted to talk to you about it.

405
00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,080
- Oh, well, I was just gonna make a comment

406
00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:11,360
about how they like our British accent.

407
00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:12,600
- Cross the pond.

408
00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,000
- Yeah, that's...

409
00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,080
- It's very good to hear that we aren't offending anyone

410
00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:19,440
too badly.

411
00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,240
'Cause we only mean it with love.

412
00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,240
We just like love accents.

413
00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:24,480
They're so fun.

414
00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:25,920
And we're boring.

415
00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,360
Listen to us.

416
00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:28,200
- Yikes.

417
00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:29,360
Oh, ouch.

418
00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:30,640
But thanks, Rob.

419
00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,160
(laughing)

420
00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:37,160
Not so much thanks, Cassie, I guess, but thanks, Rob.

421
00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,440
Should we do, should we just put on English accents

422
00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:40,440
all the time?

423
00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,160
- I don't know, it's a lot of pressure.

424
00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,000
The only thing I would say would be like,

425
00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,360
"Hello, hello."

426
00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,320
I don't even know what part of,

427
00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,000
'cause I know they're all different.

428
00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:51,840
- Yeah.

429
00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,400
- Sounding, tell me what part that is, Rob.

430
00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,840
- I don't know, I wanna say Cockney,

431
00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,160
but I don't know. - I wanna say Pirates of the Caribbean.

432
00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:00,320
(laughing)

433
00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:01,160
- Okay.

434
00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,000
- I wanna say, I know just enough to be dangerous.

435
00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,840
Anyways.

436
00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:12,520
- I'm here, Rob.

437
00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,000
Depression, decaying.

438
00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:16,840
- Yay.

439
00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,200
- 40-T, oh, wrestling move.

440
00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:20,680
We were talking about the rounds, okay.

441
00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:25,480
Even though the majority of the buildings are gone,

442
00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,520
evidence of the ghost town still remains.

443
00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,920
People say they can feel energy all around when they visit,

444
00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,440
and they feel the sense of being watched

445
00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,320
from the shadows.

446
00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:40,520
- I don't like that.

447
00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,960
That gives me like tunnel 13 vibes.

448
00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:43,840
- Yeah.

449
00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,280
It is just that feeling though,

450
00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:46,600
like when you're in a creepy spot,

451
00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:51,240
you kinda just like, you feel things all around you.

452
00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,240
- Yeah, things, things.

453
00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,240
- Things.

454
00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,880
- You can still spot building foundations and piping,

455
00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:02,200
which is kinda cool, and like, it's like,

456
00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,440
it reminds me of like bones coming up

457
00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,760
from like their grave or something,

458
00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,640
or maybe like decaying down into the ground.

459
00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:14,480
You just see like the leftovers of what used to be.

460
00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:15,920
- I don't know.

461
00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,680
- Just rambled on for a minute there.

462
00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:18,840
- Uh.

463
00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,440
(laughs)

464
00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:25,440
- People have found windmill parts, bottles, dishes,

465
00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:30,720
bash tubs, like literally just like creepy bath tubs

466
00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:31,960
laying in the forest.

467
00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,080
- Okay, will any bathtub in the forest

468
00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,360
is gonna be creepy?

469
00:17:35,360 --> 00:17:37,200
- But you know what I think when I see that?

470
00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:38,040
What I- - See how?

471
00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:39,040
- A Cialis commercial?

472
00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,160
(laughs)

473
00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,200
- Are you ready?

474
00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,440
It's time.

475
00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,280
- We happened upon a bathtub in the woods.

476
00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,520
I just think like what a cool like witchy photo shoot

477
00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:50,360
thought of me.

478
00:17:50,360 --> 00:17:51,560
- Oh, 1000%.

479
00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,960
But it would make a great photo shoot

480
00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,480
because that's undeniably weird and kinda creepy.

481
00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:58,320
- It is creepy.

482
00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:59,600
You wanna know what else is creepy?

483
00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:00,440
- Okay.

484
00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,360
- Finding a porcelain doll head,

485
00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:04,880
'cause those have been found on the property too.

486
00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:05,920
- No.

487
00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,920
- Included that just for you.

488
00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:12,920
- Yeah, no, I mean, I figured you left that in for me.

489
00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,080
- Just for your benefit.

490
00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,160
- Super.

491
00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,840
- Some of the things that have been found

492
00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,680
are on display at the Headwater's Education Center

493
00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,120
at the restored railroad roundhouse.

494
00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:27,360
- Oh, so that you can still see.

495
00:18:27,360 --> 00:18:28,320
- Okay.

496
00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:29,480
- Like that sounds kinda cool.

497
00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,400
- I know, and then they have all like the things

498
00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,680
people have found from the old town.

499
00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,320
- Yeah, I wanna go visit.

500
00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,480
- I wanna visit everywhere.

501
00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,920
- Yeah, you can totally go visit.

502
00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,520
- We'll go, you won't feel anything watching you

503
00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:43,360
from the trees.

504
00:18:43,360 --> 00:18:45,080
- I totally well, and I'm sorry,

505
00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,560
but I don't go places where they're already finding doll heads.

506
00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,880
- You know, I just had the best idea.

507
00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,000
I'm just gonna keep doll heads in my purse

508
00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,560
and then like plant them all over wherever we're at.

509
00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,000
So you think that you're going and saying.

510
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:04,120
- Do you, like the worst part about that

511
00:19:04,120 --> 00:19:07,200
is that it would just, it would so easily work.

512
00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:08,200
- What?

513
00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,040
That's why I told you,

514
00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,800
'cause I could never do it to you.

515
00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,400
- 'Cause I'm so goal, I'm a goal of calf.

516
00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:14,480
- Yeah.

517
00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:15,720
- If I didn't like you,

518
00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,360
like I would totally pull that prank on you though.

519
00:19:18,360 --> 00:19:19,800
That would be the best prank.

520
00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,040
Okay, well, and for anybody who doesn't know me,

521
00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,960
just know that I trust no one.

522
00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:30,800
The Elk River Trail is a self-guided two mile round trip hike

523
00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,320
with informative signs about folks' history.

524
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,200
This is from their website.

525
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,680
Quote, we ask that you respect the natural

526
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:44,080
and cultural resources by leaving them undisturbed.

527
00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:48,600
The historical significance of this area is priceless.

528
00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:49,560
- Yeah.

529
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,720
Also, it's plenty disturbed already

530
00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:53,680
from the sounds of it.

531
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:54,520
- Yeah.

532
00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:55,360
- So.

533
00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:58,120
- And it's dick road, don't be a dick.

534
00:19:58,120 --> 00:19:59,120
(laughs)

535
00:19:59,120 --> 00:19:59,960
- Yes.

536
00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:00,920
- Just had to bring it back.

537
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:01,760
- Yeah.

538
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:02,680
- As always.

539
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,800
- So don't be a dick because even though they say

540
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,720
Charlie is long gone.

541
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:13,040
If you're out there at night and up to some shenanigans,

542
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,280
you might just wind up getting yourself chased out

543
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,880
by a ghost with a shotgun full of salt.

544
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,200
(gasps)

545
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,040
- Okay.

546
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,720
- Charlie's still roaming the property,

547
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:27,560
protecting it from all of you shenanigans out there.

548
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,240
- Okay, but who's supplying the rock salt?

549
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,720
- It's ghost rock salt.

550
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,000
So like, you can endless supply.

551
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,280
- Great.

552
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,200
- I told you the ghosts in the story aren't gonna be

553
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,440
what you think.

554
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,520
- Ghost town, ghost salt.

555
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,760
- Yeah, I mean, I definitely didn't predict this.

556
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,080
- That's fair.

557
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,840
- Ghost of Cassie's brain is somewhere.

558
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,280
(laughs)

559
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,760
They even do, or they have done in the past,

560
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:54,800
I don't know if they still do it,

561
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,560
but they've done a Halloween event

562
00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,400
where actors have dressed up as the townspeople of folk

563
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,560
and haunted the forest while,

564
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,960
like, so people would go hike around in it.

565
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,400
Like, a haunted trail type of thing.

566
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,040
- Yeah, I mean, what's not, okay,

567
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,840
like I can get behind that,

568
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:17,600
as long as, you know, it's not actually haunted.

569
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:18,640
- I mean, it is haunted,

570
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,480
but then there's also real people in it.

571
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,800
- Then that actually makes it worse.

572
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,520
It's more confusing because I don't know

573
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,200
if it's like, which is the ghost.

574
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,560
- Yeah, exactly.

575
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:29,400
- Yeah.

576
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,240
- No, not for me.

577
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:31,560
Never mind, I'm back out.

578
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:37,760
About 35 miles south is Humboldt's Redwood State Park,

579
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:42,600
where numerous ghost sightings have occurred.

580
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,920
And these are like, regular ghosts.

581
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,440
Like the traditional ghost.

582
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:48,760
- They're trad ghosts.

583
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,000
(laughs)

584
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:51,840
I'm dead.

585
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,840
- time machine.

586
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,240
Do they bake their own bread?

587
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,480
- You're a little bit more gorgeous.

588
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:58,520
- You know, probably.

589
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,440
- I have here that it smells like bread.

590
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,320
- You walk into the forest.

591
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,080
You can hear butter churning.

592
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,840
- That would be amazing.

593
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:07,680
I'm not gonna lie.

594
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,360
I just will bread though.

595
00:22:10,360 --> 00:22:11,760
- Yeah.

596
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,320
So unfortunately, these are not trad ghosts.

597
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,960
They are actually even before that.

598
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,640
They might be due to the spirits of the synchion people.

599
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,800
Oh, that are said to stare at you

600
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,920
from the shadows of the secret redwood trees

601
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,880
that they protect.

602
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,280
So they're not menacing.

603
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,000
They're just there to protect the trees

604
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,880
from the shenanigans.

605
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,040
They're kinda like "shotgun Charlie."

606
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,120
Okay.

607
00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:43,560
That still doesn't sound great

608
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:48,480
'cause he had the rock salt in the shotgun.

609
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,960
And I feel like he's a little more gong-ho

610
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,480
on like if anyone's out there,

611
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,480
he might try to shoot at them.

612
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,560
Oh, but I feel like these ones are more just like,

613
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,640
they're laying back just like making sure

614
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,960
that you're gonna be cool to the trees

615
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,840
'cause this is their sacred land.

616
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,120
They were here first.

617
00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:09,480
These are their motherfucking trees.

618
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:10,320
- Yeah.

619
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:11,680
- They're not your trees?

620
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:12,520
- Right.

621
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,280
But they're not just like behaving totally indiscriminately.

622
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,840
- No, they're not attacking you unless, you know,

623
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,120
probably deserved.

624
00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:20,920
I didn't see any stories of any attacks,

625
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,640
probably 'cause they didn't survive.

626
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:23,960
- Great.

627
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:24,800
- Great.

628
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,720
Since 1958, there have also been a ton of

629
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,760
♪ Bigfoot Reports ♪

630
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,040
- Oh.

631
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,920
I totally forgot my little Bigfoot statue.

632
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:37,760
It was gonna be enough.

633
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,360
But our altar is full enough.

634
00:23:39,360 --> 00:23:40,960
- Yeah.

635
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,440
- And this is not a lot about Bigfoot.

636
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,560
We're not going in a Bigfoot.

637
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,360
That's gonna be its whole episode at some point

638
00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:49,680
in the very far off future.

639
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:50,640
All right.

640
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,760
Some people say that their food and camping gear

641
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:58,000
were trampled by what seemed to be giant feet.

642
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,640
'Cause like definitely not a bear, you guys.

643
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,320
- I was gonna say.

644
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,440
- Bigfoot, yeah.

645
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,480
- But it was just like a really big dude.

646
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,480
- Like the Bigfoot to crumple that shit, you know?

647
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:11,920
Takes some big feet to do that.

648
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:12,760
So.

649
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:13,600
- Yeah.

650
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:14,440
- I don't know.

651
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,560
- Just everyone has bigger feet than me.

652
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:17,400
- So.

653
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,200
- I just, I'm a little skeptical.

654
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,120
'Cause I'm like, oh.

655
00:24:22,120 --> 00:24:24,280
I don't know, you're pretty good at stomping on stuff.

656
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,440
Remember the snow?

657
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:30,280
You stomped me a little trail on the snow.

658
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:31,120
- That's true.

659
00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:32,360
That's your wedge boots.

660
00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:33,200
- Yeah.

661
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,720
- I don't know why I remember that all of a sudden.

662
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,320
- Because it was so scary.

663
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,120
It's just like one of those, you know, you have like,

664
00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:42,800
I think like certain snapshots that like make up

665
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,600
like your friends personality.

666
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,080
And that's like one of my snapshots of you

667
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,440
and like your personality.

668
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,640
- Me stomping in the snow

669
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,920
so that you can actually like, walk to your car

670
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,280
and sort of sliding around on my-

671
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,240
- Yeah, 'cause I'm wearing boots with no grip.

672
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,480
Like an A-it and this stuff.

673
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,680
- You're like wearing like, you know, like cute,

674
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,000
like boots with the fur type thing

675
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,200
and I'm like over here in my like,

676
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,560
dog worker boots and I'm like, I got this.

677
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,160
- Yeah.

678
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,760
People even report hearing bigfoot's call in the wild.

679
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,760
There's like a stereotypical like bigfoot call

680
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,160
that like people who know about bigfoot know.

681
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,800
I think it's that kind of thing.

682
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,840
Yeah, and we're not getting into it

683
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,000
'cause this is not about him, okay?

684
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,000
- Okay, but what is the call sound like?

685
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,320
- I don't remember and I didn't listen to it

686
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,360
'cause I'm just, I have to be in the bigfoot mode, okay?

687
00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:37,200
- All right.

688
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,720
- And I'm just not there yet.

689
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:43,000
But I will link the article and it has a link to it.

690
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,640
The sound, I think, or you can just Google

691
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:45,640
like bigfoot sound.

692
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,920
Why don't we just Google bigfoot sound right now?

693
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,160
Let's just fucking do it.

694
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,000
- Let's do it.

695
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,840
- (YouTube Video playing) "Bigfoot is definitely in Texas."

696
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,420
[Distant Bigfoot call]

697
00:25:57,420 --> 00:26:01,280
- So basically just screaming in the woods.

698
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:02,200
- Kind of.

699
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,000
- I'm sure Texas bigfoot sounds a lot like

700
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,800
Pacific Northwest bigfoot.

701
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:07,640
- I mean.

702
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,040
- Maybe there's to have different accents.

703
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,160
- I was gonna say.

704
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,800
(laughing)

705
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,360
- New think he wears a cowboy hat?

706
00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:15,920
- 100%.

707
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:16,840
(laughing)

708
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,920
- How big do you think it's belt buckle is?

709
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,880
- The biggest.

710
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:25,840
Okay, moving on from the bigfoot 'cause this is not about him,

711
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:26,680
okay?

712
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,520
- Right, right, right, right, right, right.

713
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:33,280
California has 49 state parks dedicated to the preservation

714
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,840
of Redwood trees.

715
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:35,760
- Wow.

716
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,960
- That can live over 2,000 years.

717
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,280
- So they're gonna be there for a while?

718
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,280
Is that what we're--

719
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,720
- Yeah, they've been there a while

720
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,040
and they're gonna be there a while longer.

721
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:46,880
- All right.

722
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,040
- That's a long life.

723
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,480
That's what I wrote next.

724
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,440
That's a long life.

725
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:59,440
They can't all get away without some ghostly attachments.

726
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,640
The trees, the trees.

727
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,840
They might have some ghostly attachments.

728
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,400
- Okay, we'll talk about it.

729
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,840
Sprouting from some of these at Redwood trees

730
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,840
are an extremely rare, parasitic like

731
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,400
albino tree.

732
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:21,520
There's only about 25 of them known in the world.

733
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:27,560
The tallest Redwood is about 380 feet.

734
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:32,320
And these little buggers can be from like 6 to 70 feet

735
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,840
is the tallest.

736
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,200
So they're 6 to 70?

737
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,480
- 70, even though they're 70 feet,

738
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,720
like they're still a lot smaller than 380 feet.

739
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,440
- Yeah, but that's crazy tall though.

740
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:46,280
- Yeah.

741
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,840
- I feel like those are rare.

742
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,480
I don't think they all get to be 70 feet.

743
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,360
'Cause they're only a fraction

744
00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:59,240
of the host's lifespan at five to 10 years.

745
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,040
- Interesting.

746
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,760
- And they're called ghost trees.

747
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,400
- That is so funny.

748
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,560
I love that.

749
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,880
- I don't.

750
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:10,880
- Ghost trees.

751
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,400
Do they look like a ghost?

752
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,240
- They do.

753
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,080
- Kind of.

754
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,720
- Kind of, if you want to look it up,

755
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,560
just like a ghost redwood trees or something.

756
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,520
Their needles are pale and limp with a waxy texture

757
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,040
and you'd probably mistake them for dead trees.

758
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,520
If you were just to happen upon them

759
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,720
without knowing about them, did you find them?

760
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,640
- Yeah, in the pictures that I'm seeing,

761
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:36,200
it kind of, it almost looks like a flocked Christmas tree

762
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,200
to me.

763
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,200
- It kind of does, yeah.

764
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,240
- Yeah.

765
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,640
- And some of them are a little like

766
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,240
on the reddish brown side,

767
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,040
some of them are a lot more pale.

768
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,640
That is so, like it's so cool.

769
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,800
And just very strange, do it the same,

770
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,320
they're very interesting.

771
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,440
They don't have chlorophyll.

772
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,800
And as we learned in elementary school science,

773
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,240
they kind of need that to convert sunlight into energy,

774
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,240
known as photosynthesis.

775
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,280
- Yeah, I see.

776
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,720
I've been watching a lot of young sheldon, so.

777
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,640
- I'm like, pretty up about that.

778
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,920
- Photosynthesis, why do I say it like that?

779
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,880
Was there some dumb video that we watched?

780
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,040
- They had to, they had to, they had to, they had to.

781
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:23,560
- Bill Nye the song, it's going.

782
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,360
- Maybe that's what it was.

783
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,640
- I feel like that's gotta be it.

784
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:27,480
- Yeah.

785
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,040
- Google Bill Nye, no, I'm just kidding.

786
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,240
That was just about, I was ready to go.

787
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,920
For fingers, they're so feedy.

788
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,200
- So they survive by feeding off of their parent tree,

789
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,000
which is why they're kind of a parasite.

790
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:42,840
- Got it.

791
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,040
- Okay, that makes sense.

792
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,280
- And like anyone with kids, they kind of get that too, right?

793
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,440
I have to assume.

794
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,840
(laughing)

795
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,400
No one really knows why this happens.

796
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,400
Some scientists speculate that the pale offshoots

797
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,360
help the host tree process toxins.

798
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,240
- Oh.

799
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,440
- 'Cause the trees have like six sets of chromosomes.

800
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,880
And apparently that's a lot of genetic possibilities

801
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,680
with trees.

802
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,240
- That only six?

803
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,680
- Yeah, I looked it up and I was like,

804
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,320
they have less than us, right?

805
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,880
- Yeah, I quite a few.

806
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,000
(laughing)

807
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,360
- But still, that gets you a lot of different.

808
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,400
Like even with trees, they can have a lot of different

809
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:27,560
qualities about them.

810
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,240
Their bark can be all gnarly and weird,

811
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,640
or they can have, I don't know.

812
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,600
- Yeah, no, I mean, that's interesting.

813
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,360
- Yeah, and some of them turn into albino trees.

814
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:38,200
- All right then.

815
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,000
- And they don't know for sure that it's

816
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,280
to process toxins or anything like that.

817
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,840
'Cause I feel like that maybe they would be far more frequent

818
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,160
if they had to do that.

819
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,160
'Cause there's a lot of damn toxins in the world.

820
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,480
(laughing)

821
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,680
So the trees were like evolving.

822
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,520
- Yeah, that's kind of interesting.

823
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:58,520
But, you know, trees also sort of are interconnected.

824
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,040
- I was just thinking that like,

825
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,640
their underground traffic, they're all like,

826
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,960
basically connected.

827
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,960
So maybe they're able to like,

828
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,200
all kind of views that one.

829
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,640
- I don't know, that's interesting.

830
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,040
- It reminds me of an organ,

831
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,960
and all of the trees are connected,

832
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,680
and it's like one giant body,

833
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,440
and then like that little albino tree

834
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,800
is like an organ inside the body.

835
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:21,960
- Yeah, I'm dealing with the top liver.

836
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,040
- Like the liver, yeah.

837
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,080
- Like the liver or kidneys.

838
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,760
- Yeah, that's what it reminded me of.

839
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,360
- I didn't mean to put this up,

840
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,920
'cause we're gonna go back to Ureca.

841
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,040
So I did mean to put this up earlier in the episode,

842
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,960
but you get it now, so.

843
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,600
We're gonna dip back over to Ureca.

844
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,200
I can't remember where I said it was.

845
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,280
So over there, somewhere away from the Redwood Park.

846
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,920
(laughing)

847
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,320
There's a listing on visitredwoods.com.

848
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,160
- Ooh.

849
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,160
- And it's Eureka's only ghost tour.

850
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:01,160
Oh, this is a quote right from the website about it.

851
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,400
Join us to learn about Eureka’s Haunted Past.

852
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,240
- Bounty.

853
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,680
- And it's haunted present.

854
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,560
From its rough and tumble beginnings,

855
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,080
Eureka has been a wide open town.

856
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,680
She wide open.

857
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:15,800
And as you will learn,

858
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,840
not all of its stories can be explained.

859
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,640
As you tour the streets of Old Town,

860
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,760
learn what happened in Opera Alley,

861
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,520
and what's underneath Second Street.

862
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,680
What's under Second Street?

863
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:29,520
- Yeah.

864
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,680
(laughing)

865
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,520
- Underground, kind of like Shanghai Tunnel style.

866
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,400
- I was like I betcha there’s some tunnels.

867
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,920
- Well, yeah, that seems like a fair bet, right?

868
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,000
- Tours last about an hour and a half.

869
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,920
We will guarantee you will never forget

870
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,520
Eureka's other side of history.

871
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:49,920
- Ooh.

872
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,320
That sounds ominous.

873
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,480
- I wanna go.

874
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,960
I wanna go so bad.

875
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:54,800
Just like,

876
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,440
"I'm in Eureka, Eureka."

877
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,280
- Eureka.

878
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,480
- That's such a nerd.

879
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,560
- Okay, well now we're gonna visit another place

880
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,840
called Shasta Trinity National Forest.

881
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,280
It is a campground in Redding,

882
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,560
and that's about 156 miles north of Sacramento.

883
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,200
So we're going all over Northern California.

884
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:17,440
- Oh, what a...

885
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,800
- Should we dip a little lower, too?

886
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:19,880
I'm not sure.

887
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:20,720
- Okay.

888
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:21,560
- She nasty.

889
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:22,960
- She nasty.

890
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,040
- It's allegedly, allegedly.

891
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,160
- Allegedly.

892
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,160
I like it.

893
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,160
- Allegedly.

894
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:28,920
- Yeah, it's like

895
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,320
a legend, also allegedly.

896
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,240
I like it.

897
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,360
- It is allegedly haunted by an entity

898
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,280
that only reveals itself on Halloween.

899
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,040
- Wow.

900
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,520
- And I was gonna save this for Halloween,

901
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:43,760
but I just like couldn't.

902
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,960
- Yeah, I really, I just can't really sit on this right now.

903
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,320
- Yeah, maybe I'll bring it back around.

904
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,480
We'll see.

905
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,480
- Yeah.

906
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,400
- The shadow of a woman surrounded by fine mist

907
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,560
can be seen crying as she walks along the river.

908
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:00,520
- Okay.

909
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,720
- Or on the water itself.

910
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,240
- So she's the little like Jesus.

911
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,080
Just.

912
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,840
- Yeah.

913
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,320
- We'll drop a Jesus water in there.

914
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,320
Okay.

915
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,040
I don't know.

916
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,320
I feel like, mm, mm, mm.

917
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,760
- Well, you know what it reminds us of.

918
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,000
A lot of people compare her to La Llorona.

919
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:22,840
- La Llorona?

920
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,200
- La Llorona.

921
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,640
- La Llorona.

922
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,760
- Did I say it right, Cristina?

923
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,080
- Yes.

924
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,120
- Which according to Google AI,

925
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,880
La Llorona, which translates to the weeping woman in Spanish,

926
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,520
is a vengeful ghost or spirit in Mexican

927
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,080
and Latin American folklore,

928
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,640
who is said to cause misfortune to the living.

929
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,480
And it was AI who said that,

930
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,320
and it sounded right like what I've heard,

931
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,880
so I didn't go into it.

932
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,640
'Cause the same, all about her either.

933
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:54,960
- Okay, great.

934
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:55,800
- Yeah, that's fine.

935
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,960
If you don't wanna talk about it, it's whatever.

936
00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:02,840
I don't have the chills or anything, so it's fine.

937
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,160
The sounds of the spirit crying

938
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,960
lures people in looking for help.

939
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,160
Like they think someone is in need,

940
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,880
'cause they hear someone crying, right?

941
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:13,880
- I...

942
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,680
- Locals even dare each other to go down to the river alone

943
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,680
and see if they can find her.

944
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,920
No, that's just dangerous.

945
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:25,360
Allegently, some of them don't come back.

946
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,920
- Well, yeah, I mean, just a body of water

947
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,320
by yourself is dangerous.

948
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,160
- That's true.

949
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,600
I mean, they don't have to go into it,

950
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,200
but maybe they slipped and fell over.

951
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,040
- Yeah.

952
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:35,880
- Me, me, me.

953
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,360
- How little bit of hell?

954
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,840
- She pushed them.

955
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,720
- No one knows if she is avenging her death

956
00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:46,400
or just wanting a friend on the other side.

957
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,680
- Oh, I hate that.

958
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,680
- Wanting a little ghostly gab, if you wanna be your friend.

959
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:51,520
- Do you wanna go see me?

960
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,680
- It'll be a gab, but come on.

961
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,480
- Oh.

962
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,240
- But if you decide to go and look for California's

963
00:35:58,240 --> 00:36:02,640
La Llorona, don't get too close to the water's edge.

964
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:03,640
- I won't.

965
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,320
- I won't do any of that.

966
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,520
- Knowing you might just fall in, like.

967
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:09,360
- Yeah.

968
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:10,200
- You wouldn't even need help.

969
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,880
She would just sit there and be like,

970
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:12,720
(laughing)

971
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:15,640
"She just tripped over her own foot."

972
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,280
(laughing)

973
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,040
And then you would start a pod with her in the afterlife.

974
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,160
- Yeah, except I'm actually...

975
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,840
So, okay, I'm very clumsy and God helped me

976
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,800
in so many pursuits in life, but I'm a pretty good swimmer.

977
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:31,640
So...

978
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:32,800
- That's great.

979
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:33,640
That's good.

980
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:34,920
Got that going for me.

981
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,760
Not that I'm looking to test out this theory.

982
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:38,840
- Yeah, just to be clear.

983
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:39,680
No, thank you.

984
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,640
- No, go push a gab, Lairona, rivers.

985
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,080
Yeah, no, thank you.

986
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:49,400
In 2022, at the same campground, Lake Shasta became so dry

987
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,400
that a ghost boat was revealed.

988
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:54,240
- Oh God!

989
00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:56,000
(laughing)

990
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,040
- And someone sent you a picture of the ghost boat.

991
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,440
It's really cool.

992
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:00,680
- Okay, cool.

993
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:05,280
Oh God, that means it was there when I was there.

994
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,680
- What's it?

995
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:12,680
I'm guessing, 'cause I went there before 2022.

996
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:18,280
- This landing boat has 3117 on its side,

997
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:23,040
which would have been a ship assigned on the attack transport

998
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,840
USS Manrovia?

999
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:27,920
- Yeah, Manrovia.

1000
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,480
- In World War II.

1001
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,000
Okay.

1002
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,560
- Well, tell us about things I don't really know about.

1003
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:35,560
- Yeah.

1004
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,080
- In World War II stuff, kind of interesting.

1005
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,160
- Yeah.

1006
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,680
- Although the bones are there, this boat is so decayed

1007
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,360
that they can't tell how it was actually saying.

1008
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,640
- Oh, the boat.

1009
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:47,720
- The bones of the boat.

1010
00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:48,800
- The bones of the boat.

1011
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,880
- There were no people found with this boat.

1012
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:56,040
There have been bodies found with other ghost boats

1013
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,880
that popped up, but not here totally.

1014
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,640
So I picked a good ghost boat, you know?

1015
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,320
- Okay, yeah, that's great.

1016
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,920
'Cause yeah, if you could just not produce ghost boats

1017
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:11,920
and bones in bodies of water that I frequent,

1018
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,840
that'd be so great.

1019
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,800
I've only been to Shasta once.

1020
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,440
- Was it dry when you went?

1021
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,080
- Or was the boat.

1022
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:19,920
- No.

1023
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,240
- You were saying the boat was just under there.

1024
00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:23,280
- Yeah, it must have still been under there.

1025
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:28,280
'Cause I think this was in like 20, maybe 2019.

1026
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:29,360
- Okay.

1027
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,000
- Yeah, I don't know.

1028
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,080
- Yeah, I was surprised how recent this was.

1029
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,320
- Yeah.

1030
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,280
Well, did you like the non-traditional ghosts

1031
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,360
I had for you today?

1032
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,200
- I did.

1033
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,560
- Where did Ghost Town, Ghost Trees, Ghost Rocksalt,

1034
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:43,720
and a Ghost Boat?

1035
00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:44,560
- Yeah.

1036
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:45,560
- It's kind of cool.

1037
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,600
It's a lot of spooky stuff.

1038
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,880
- And we have a very spooky, alter goin on.

1039
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,680
- You did it up today.

1040
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:53,520
- Yeah.

1041
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,720
- Should we light this bitch up and do some tarot?

1042
00:38:55,720 --> 00:38:56,560
- Let's do it.

1043
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:57,400
- Let's do it.

1044
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,480
- You guys, we have something really exciting

1045
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:02,600
to share with you.

1046
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:07,040
- Let's hear a few words from our new pod besties.

1047
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,240
- Hello, twisted humans.

1048
00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:11,520
Do you find yourself wanting to know more

1049
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,280
about the latest murder, conspiracy,

1050
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:15,920
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1051
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,400
- Then this is the podcast for you.

1052
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,760
We're bringing the most intense stories

1053
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,200
that'll keep you up at night.

1054
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,680
- He was found guilty of voluntary manslaughter

1055
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,640
and philonia's assault,

1056
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:32,640
but he was only sentenced to five months of probation.

1057
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,680
And this would be the last time that anyone ever saw a fear.

1058
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,680
There are allegedly two women

1059
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,120
who also drowned in the first month's school.

1060
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,080
- What's this the same glowing green

1061
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,560
they'd seen in the darkness the night before?

1062
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:50,040
- He had refused to sit near the wagon cloth

1063
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,440
because of stains on it, which were most likely blood.

1064
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,400
Join us every Tuesday for a glass of wine

1065
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,800
or sangria and a dose of true crime.

1066
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:00,640
- I'm Alicia.

1067
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,000
- And I'm Sierra.

1068
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,480
- And this is Twisted and Uncorked.

1069
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,120
- Check them out, creepy people.

1070
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,840
You can find their info in our show notes.

1071
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,760
- Okay, we're doing some tarot for a couple of spots

1072
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,640
in California with redwood trees

1073
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:25,080
and all kinds of different kinds of ghosties.

1074
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:31,240
Do you have any feelings or no,

1075
00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:32,680
it's gonna be this one.

1076
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,200
Sorry, you don't get any feelings.

1077
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,040
- No.

1078
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,920
- I actually, I don't.

1079
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,800
I was looking at the back of your head.

1080
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:39,640
(laughing)

1081
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,040
- I know, isn't it gorgeous?

1082
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,880
- Yeah, just 'cause it was my head in the way.

1083
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:44,760
- Yeah.

1084
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,960
- I got the six of sticks.

1085
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,200
Pick up sticks.

1086
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,280
- Six of ones?

1087
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,120
- Yeah.

1088
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,800
- Six of ones.

1089
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,600
- There's sandhill cranes on it.

1090
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:57,920
- Beautiful.

1091
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:58,760
- Yeah, that's fabulous.

1092
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,760
- And then I'll let you read the description

1093
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,280
in our modern witch tarot book.

1094
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,120
- Yeah.

1095
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,120
- And then I'll read the one,

1096
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,240
the little cute story from the Pacific Northwest tarot.

1097
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:09,320
- I love it.

1098
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:15,480
Keywords are victory, success, recognition, and satisfaction.

1099
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,560
- Okay.

1100
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,800
The six of ones is the victory card.

1101
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,400
You've faced challenges, won the fight

1102
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,400
and deserve the accolades you receive.

1103
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,200
Success and good fortune are yours.

1104
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,440
- I feel like this is about like the trees,

1105
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,760
'cause they were all getting chopped down.

1106
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,320
And then they regroup, they regroup.

1107
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,440
They took over these buildings of people

1108
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,040
that were trampling all over there.

1109
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:43,880
- Yeah.

1110
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:44,720
- Inirds.

1111
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:46,000
- They've reclaimed the earth.

1112
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:46,840
- Yeah.

1113
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,160
- Yeah.

1114
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,480
- Victory.

1115
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,640
- Victory.

1116
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,560
- Well, when in the end?

1117
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,480
- I win, you lose.

1118
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,960
Too bad, so sad.

1119
00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:01,040
- Okay, and we dig at the sub-rate, correct?

1120
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,120
Okay.

1121
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:07,120
The six of ones promises a time of happiness and fulfillment.

1122
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,640
You've martyled your energies during times of struggle

1123
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,800
and overcome obstacles.

1124
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:17,800
Now you're on top and can accept recognition and rewards.

1125
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,800
- They're on top, 'cause they're really tall.

1126
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,760
And their recognition and reward is like having a sanctuary,

1127
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,760
a reserve to protect them.

1128
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,400
- Yeah.

1129
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,720
- In 49 state parks dedicated to redwoods.

1130
00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:33,560
- Yeah.

1131
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:34,920
- That's an insane number.

1132
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:35,760
- Yeah.

1133
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:36,600
I mean, it's great.

1134
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,680
It is in the song of our nation or whatever, so.

1135
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:40,520
- It's true.

1136
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,480
- I mean, it's kind of a big deal.

1137
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:43,480
(laughs)

1138
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,440
- I don't like to brag, but I'm kind of a big deal.

1139
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:47,760
I'm like a national park.

1140
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:52,480
You feel good about yourself and your accomplishments.

1141
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,280
Sometimes this card shows recovery from an illness

1142
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,360
or setback.

1143
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,640
- Enough said.

1144
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:00,560
- You nailed it.

1145
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:01,400
- I know.

1146
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:02,240
- You nailed it.

1147
00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:03,080
- Usually do.

1148
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,440
- Pretty much always.

1149
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,160
- In a reading about money,

1150
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,320
you can expect financial success.

1151
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,920
A long-term investment may pay off now

1152
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,120
or you may receive a raise slash bonus.

1153
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,280
- Arraise like growing.

1154
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,040
(laughs)

1155
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,000
- A bonus, like a little,

1156
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,360
- Like a little grown.

1157
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:27,760
- A little grocery,

1158
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:28,840
- Gosty growth,

1159
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:29,680
- attachment.

1160
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,320
- In a reading about work,

1161
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,920
this card can mean getting a promotion,

1162
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,560
receiving respect for your efforts,

1163
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,760
or seeing a creative project come to fruition.

1164
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:43,920
- Fruition.

1165
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:44,760
- Like fruit.

1166
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:45,600
- Yeah.

1167
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:46,720
- Like a fruit tree.

1168
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:51,760
- I'm also gonna take it as this is a reading for us too.

1169
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:52,560
- I love it.

1170
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:53,400
(laughs)

1171
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,040
- If you guys want it, you can take it too.

1172
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:55,880
- Yeah.

1173
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:56,640
(laughs)

1174
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,560
- Enjoy your well-deserved success.

1175
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:00,400
- We will.

1176
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:01,400
- Okay.

1177
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:02,240
- So we'll let you guys know.

1178
00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:03,400
- So we'll let you guys know.

1179
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:04,920
- In a reading about love,

1180
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,880
the upright six indicates a time of happiness, love,

1181
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,480
and cooperation in a relationship.

1182
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,240
If you're seeking a partner,

1183
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:18,000
this card offers encouragement for true love.

1184
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,000
- I think like the trees are looking for a partner in humans.

1185
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,080
- In humans.

1186
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:23,920
- Yeah.

1187
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,080
- And like we need to love each other

1188
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,280
and respect each other and treat each other kindly.

1189
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,120
- Yeah.

1190
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,520
- Like in a good relationship.

1191
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:34,520
- Also, Cassie and Trees sitting in a tree,

1192
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,800
K-I-S-S-S-I-N-G.

1193
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,520
- Did anyone realize how ironic it is

1194
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,280
that I talk about how much I love trees

1195
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,800
and then also how much I love lumberjacks.

1196
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,280
(laughs)

1197
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,360
- It's like very, yeah.

1198
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:48,760
- Two things can be true.

1199
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,000
Okay, you contain multitude.

1200
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:51,840
- I'm a paradox.

1201
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:52,680
- It's okay.

1202
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:53,520
- Yeah.

1203
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:54,600
- Is that the right use of that word or is that wrong?

1204
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:55,440
- I think so.

1205
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,000
- I learn that word from Taylor Swift.

1206
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,840
(laughs)

1207
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,240
(laughs)

1208
00:45:01,240 --> 00:45:02,400
- Your other true love.

1209
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,160
(laughs)

1210
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,240
Okay, I have an extra excerpt.

1211
00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:11,000
It says, "Card of triumph."

1212
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:15,160
The thought-tiro labels, "The Six of Wands Victory."

1213
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:19,240
The writer, "Way Smith" Dak shows a triumph at Horseman,

1214
00:45:19,240 --> 00:45:22,720
writing at the head of a jubilant procession.

1215
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:24,560
Salvador Dolly, however,

1216
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,240
takes a different approach in his deck.

1217
00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:28,600
- It's surprising no one.

1218
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:29,680
- Ruler.

1219
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:30,520
- You don't say.

1220
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,560
- 'Cause he was such a straight lady.

1221
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:33,560
- Straight lady, she was right.

1222
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,480
(laughs)

1223
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,360
- His Horseman rides alone signifying an inner qu-

1224
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,000
- Wow.

1225
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,800
- Signifying an inner conquest rather than

1226
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,200
besting an opponent in the outer world.

1227
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,040
Hmm.

1228
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,000
Interesting.

1229
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:54,320
- Maybe that's like relating to the Lairona ghost.

1230
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:55,400
- Ooh.

1231
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,600
- Which is he?

1232
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:57,880
- That kinda reminds me too.

1233
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,320
In the card, I was like, "Oh, I think they're flying over water."

1234
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:02,160
Oh.

1235
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,960
Yeah. - I'm not really good at it.

1236
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:05,960
- They're cranes.

1237
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,360
- Or they just up in the clouds or is this water?

1238
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:09,520
I can't tell.

1239
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,120
- You know, I think that's interesting

1240
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,600
because it does sort of seem like it's open to interpretation.

1241
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,320
- Interesting. - I feel like

1242
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,080
you could make an argument for either.

1243
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,720
- 'Cause we did talk about like the Lairona ghost,

1244
00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:24,640
she's at the river, and then we talked about the ghost boat too.

1245
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,440
- So it's like you're either up in the trees above the clouds

1246
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,400
or you're like above the water,

1247
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:30,960
and we talked about both those things.

1248
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:31,800
- Yeah.

1249
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,280
- Ain't that cool.

1250
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,320
- Interesting.

1251
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,040
Yeah, we might have to put in the caption

1252
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,480
for this week's tarot, like, "Hey, weigh in.

1253
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,480
Are they above the clouds or are they above a body of water?"

1254
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:44,320
- Yeah.

1255
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,440
- 'Cause I'm curious how people see that.

1256
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:48,280
- Me too.

1257
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:49,120
- How they interpret it.

1258
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:49,960
- Me too.

1259
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,160
- I wanna know.

1260
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,520
- I wanna pick your all brains.

1261
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:53,880
- Your all creepy brains.

1262
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,280
- Get in there and pick a rail.

1263
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,400
- Yeah.

1264
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:57,320
- Root around in there.

1265
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:58,320
- Yeah.

1266
00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:59,160
- Like a little bottomy.

1267
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:00,160
- It's a little bit nicer.

1268
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,440
(laughs)

1269
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,960
- We would never lobotomize you guys.

1270
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,400
We love you too much.

1271
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:06,440
- Yeah.

1272
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,080
- Okay, tell me a story.

1273
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,160
- Okay.

1274
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,560
Success due to strong leadership, victory,

1275
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,320
and its recognition, praise, confidence, pride.

1276
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:15,720
Kind of basically the same.

1277
00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:17,640
Things that you talked about.

1278
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:18,840
- Mm-hmm.

1279
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,640
- And this is the little story.

1280
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,320
She wasn't always the leader,

1281
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,600
but still she felt the weight of responsibility.

1282
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:27,880
Knowing her turn would come.

1283
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,080
When she took the front,

1284
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,520
she would spread her wings almost siblings.

1285
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,800
(laughs)

1286
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,760
When she took the front, she would spread her wings wide,

1287
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,960
shaping the air to ease the passage of the cranes behind her.

1288
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:42,800
- Oh.

1289
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:43,560
- Oh.

1290
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,200
- She would read the winds,

1291
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,560
finding the updrafts and tailwinds

1292
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:48,840
that would carry them higher

1293
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,880
and further despite their fatigue.

1294
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,640
- It reminds me of how you said all the trees were connected.

1295
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,720
- That's literally what I was thinking.

1296
00:47:57,720 --> 00:48:00,800
- The big trees are helping the little growth trees

1297
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,480
to fix day alive.

1298
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,840
- Yeah, like a flock could be very similar in a sense

1299
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:11,840
to sort of how a network of trees, their roots

1300
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,120
and how they interact with each other

1301
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,600
in a way that none of us can even see.

1302
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,080
- Interesting.

1303
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,080
- I love it.

1304
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,880
- Nature is so cool.

1305
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,600
She would scan the ground,

1306
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,600
seeking the safety and restoration of a hidden pond

1307
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,680
rich with frogs and snails.

1308
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,240
(laughs)

1309
00:48:31,240 --> 00:48:34,360
She would shepherd the formation of cranes

1310
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,200
to their destination,

1311
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,680
the warm wetland where they would survive the winter.

1312
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,120
She would guide them and they would succeed.

1313
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,040
The crane in front of her pealed off

1314
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,200
rotating through the rest of the split stream behind.

1315
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,920
It was her turn to lead now

1316
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,480
and she took it without hesitation.

1317
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,280
- Oh, that's so cute.

1318
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,760
- Yeah, those stories are really fun.

1319
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,320
- I like them. - Yeah.

1320
00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,320
- Yeah.

1321
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:00,400
Do you guys like them?

1322
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:01,240
- I may know.

1323
00:49:01,240 --> 00:49:02,120
- Do you guys like trees?

1324
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,800
- Nobody likes trees as much as you do, I think.

1325
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,560
- Basically the world's top tree expert.

1326
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:10,400
- Yeah.

1327
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:11,840
- What's a tree expert called?

1328
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,800
- A tree expert to man.

1329
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,520
- Well, tree arborist.

1330
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:22,520
- Arborist.

1331
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,280
- Is that like a tree expert though,

1332
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,000
or is that just people that trim trees?

1333
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:26,880
- I don't know, Google it.

1334
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:27,720
We have to know.

1335
00:49:27,720 --> 00:49:29,520
- A botanist is just stuck in my head.

1336
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:30,480
- A botanist is a myth.

1337
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,600
- And I think it's like all plants.

1338
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:33,760
- Well, that's what I was gonna say.

1339
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,960
I don't think that's right.

1340
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,440
Oh, I like this.

1341
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:38,280
Okay.

1342
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:39,120
- I'm excited.

1343
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:43,160
- An arborist tree surgeon or less commonly,

1344
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:47,160
arboriculturist is a professional in the practice

1345
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:51,840
of arboriculture, which is the cultivation management

1346
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,880
and study of individual trees, shrubs, vines,

1347
00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:00,880
and other perennial woody plants in dendrology

1348
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,200
and quarter culture.

1349
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:04,440
- Nice.

1350
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,640
- So I thought that arborist referred more so to somebody

1351
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,320
who does it in like a practical, like a trade sense.

1352
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,840
- Oh, I see.

1353
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:13,840
- Yeah.

1354
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:14,680
- Nice.

1355
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:15,520
- Okay, so that's right.

1356
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:16,880
We already knew the word.

1357
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:17,720
- Yeah.

1358
00:50:17,720 --> 00:50:18,560
- You know?

1359
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,160
- It was rattling around in there.

1360
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:21,000
- You know what?

1361
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:21,840
We're not just harrots.

1362
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:22,680
Okay.

1363
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:23,680
- Yeah.

1364
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,080
- I don't wear hats.

1365
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,880
So how could it be, you know?

1366
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,680
- I just bought a hat.

1367
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,440
I own, I think two hats.

1368
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,720
- Two hats?

1369
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:35,560
- I never wear them.

1370
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,880
I did wear them when I was like in a car with no top.

1371
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,160
'Cause like your hair, so you were riding around

1372
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:42,000
in the car top.

1373
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,000
- Thanks.

1374
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,680
- And you thought the hat would make it better?

1375
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,760
- I had two hats and I was like,

1376
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,600
(laughing)

1377
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,000
the car had no top.

1378
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,200
My top was on.

1379
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,800
Also I had a hat on.

1380
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,560
But no, I just, 'cause I've been walking

1381
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,360
and it's been very sunny and I've just been like wearing sunglasses.

1382
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,920
It's a complaining that the sun is coming through my sunglasses

1383
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:00,920
through the top.

1384
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:01,760
- Oh, yeah, yeah.

1385
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:02,600
- What?

1386
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:03,440
There has to be an invention.

1387
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:04,440
There has to be an invention.

1388
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:05,440
- There's too many things to do.

1389
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,240
- And I was like, why don't I, I literally saw some girl

1390
00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:11,680
looking real cute walking by me with a hat and I was like,

1391
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,680
(laughing)

1392
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:15,680
that's what people do.

1393
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:16,520
- Yeah.

1394
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,200
I'm sure some people do.

1395
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,360
Hats typically give me alien head.

1396
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:22,200
I don't know.

1397
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,600
I feel very dissociative when I wear hats.

1398
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:25,440
- Yeah.

1399
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:26,280
I don't know how it goes.

1400
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:27,680
I don't know if I'll be able to keep wearing it,

1401
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,120
but we're gonna try it 'cause it's a really cute hat.

1402
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:34,680
I got two girls one ghost hat.

1403
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:35,520
- Woo!

1404
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,080
- It's a little ghost girl on the front.

1405
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:37,920
- Yeah, thank you.

1406
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,560
- And like it has a little ghosty on the back.

1407
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:40,400
- Don't kill them.

1408
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:41,240
- So cute.

1409
00:51:41,240 --> 00:51:42,080
- Yeah.

1410
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:43,400
They're here with us right now.

1411
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:44,520
You really aren't really tall,

1412
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,680
but in the background I have my TGOG.

1413
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:48,680
- Hi, Corinne and Sabrina.

1414
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:49,520
- Hi, poster.

1415
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,560
Yeah.

1416
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,200
Anyway, well, bunsy's.

1417
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:54,200
- Is that all we got?

1418
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,320
I think we're in so none.

1419
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:57,160
- Yeah.

1420
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,000
- Right?

1421
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:58,840
- We're like, we're up.

1422
00:51:58,840 --> 00:51:59,920
- My little animal bones on my altar.

1423
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:01,560
- She has so many bones, you guys.

1424
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:06,320
I'm so glad that she brought so many bones for the altar

1425
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:07,280
to my house.

1426
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:08,640
- I got those from through the veil.

1427
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,520
It came in like a little sack of bones

1428
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,600
and your especially like youth like throw them

1429
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,440
or you like a reach in and pick them out.

1430
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,160
- Almost like a charm casting type.

1431
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,040
- Yeah, it's like a creepy charm casting.

1432
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:18,880
For sure.

1433
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,400
- I too have charms.

1434
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:23,240
- You're very charming.

1435
00:52:23,240 --> 00:52:24,640
- You're made of zero bones.

1436
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,000
- I love bones.

1437
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:27,840
- I know.

1438
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,800
- You find bones in the forest.

1439
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:30,640
- Yeah.

1440
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,280
- We talk about the bones of the boat.

1441
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,120
- True.

1442
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,360
- Like the bones of the houses

1443
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,280
that were left behind from the ghost town.

1444
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:38,320
- Yeah.

1445
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,320
- I just like to relate everything back to everything else.

1446
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:42,360
- Yeah.

1447
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:46,240
Well, I would like to relate this back to when I told you

1448
00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:48,440
that I had a realization suddenly

1449
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,480
as we were setting up the altar that,

1450
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,800
oh, I've never really understood this,

1451
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:59,120
but if I really am someone who's a little bit sensitive,

1452
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:04,480
maybe it makes sense that I don't really like

1453
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,440
interacting with bones.

1454
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:08,680
- Yeah.

1455
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,000
- 'Cause that has to just carry a lot of energy.

1456
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:16,840
And I can't even bring myself to touch bones.

1457
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,000
It's, I'm very weird about it.

1458
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:23,000
And she's just over there like cupping them.

1459
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,280
Okay, let me, I want to hold it

1460
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,080
and feel its energy 'cause I haven't really done that.

1461
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:27,920
- Mm.

1462
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,480
- And I was telling Caitlin,

1463
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,920
I can't remember what kind of school this is.

1464
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,280
That looks like a snake.

1465
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,120
- They have skulls?

1466
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:36,960
- They have skulls.

1467
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:41,120
- I mean, snakes have skulls, but I'm not sure if this was,

1468
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:41,960
I don't really prefer--

1469
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:42,800
- I really prefer--

1470
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:43,800
- I really prefer things.

1471
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,200
I really prefer not to think about anything's bones.

1472
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:52,200
So my apologies if that was a stupid suggestion.

1473
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,640
I want you to sit here and you're just

1474
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,840
comfort with me and think about these bones, Caitlyn.

1475
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,680
Ooh, ooh, ooh.

1476
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,720
Have you ever just held bones in your hand before?

1477
00:54:03,720 --> 00:54:07,600
- No, no, I have not.

1478
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,080
I can say that I definitely have not.

1479
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:12,440
(laughs)

1480
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:13,920
- Interesting.

1481
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,640
- I mean, I think I have, but I don't know.

1482
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,200
It's just, there's, there's feeling about it.

1483
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:19,040
- Yeah.

1484
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,080
- Because you think it really I pitched sometimes.

1485
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,680
- Yeah, well, you're excited.

1486
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,360
- Yeah, it's interesting.

1487
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:26,600
- Mm.

1488
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:27,440
- Anyway.

1489
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:28,720
- Well, I love it for you.

1490
00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:30,560
- I just feel like it's too intense for me

1491
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,360
and I'm not even sure exactly why,

1492
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,240
but I feel like I just got like a little bit of a,

1493
00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:39,240
of a, I don't know, a pizzeria today.

1494
00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:41,120
When we were setting that up and I was like,

1495
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,840
I really feel averse to this.

1496
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,680
And I feel like it makes sense.

1497
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,320
- And it makes sense that I like it.

1498
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:48,160
- Yeah.

1499
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:49,160
- Like, 'cause nothing ever.

1500
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,400
- Even though I'm sensitive, but like in a different way.

1501
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:53,640
- Yeah.

1502
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:54,840
- Like it doesn't scare me kind of.

1503
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,000
(laughs)

1504
00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:01,000
- Well, also I'm the one who gets like the creepy cold feeling

1505
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,520
in, you know,

1506
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,800
yeah, it's like, hello.

1507
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,360
I know you don't wish to speak to me,

1508
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:12,320
so I desire nothing more than to carry on a full length

1509
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,240
conversation with you.

1510
00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:16,160
- You've had a full length conversation with the ghost.

1511
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:17,320
- No.

1512
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:18,160
- That's like, first story.

1513
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,680
- That's just what it feels like every time I have like any sort of,

1514
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:21,840
(laughs)

1515
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,960
like that, I thought we were conversing for ages.

1516
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,280
It's very taxing.

1517
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:29,280
It's very, it's been comfortable.

1518
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:30,680
- 84 years.

1519
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:31,680
- Yeah.

1520
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:32,680
- Exactly.

1521
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:37,760
All right, well, we can say goodbye here

1522
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,240
and go move along to our next recording of the day.

1523
00:55:41,240 --> 00:55:44,360
- Oh, are we gonna record for?

1524
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:45,200
- If you want.

1525
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:46,040
- Check it.

1526
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,040
- I'm just kidding.

1527
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:48,120
- I'm not in charge.

1528
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,400
- Wait, who's in charge here?

1529
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,240
She's like, okay, okay, the bones are in charge.

1530
00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:55,080
- Great.

1531
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:56,280
- Bones are in charge.

1532
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,160
(laughs)

1533
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,400
- All right, let's do it.

1534
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:00,560
- All right.

1535
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,280
- Have a creepy ass day.

1536
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:05,360
See you next Tuesday.

1537
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,360
- See you next Tuesday.

1538
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:08,840
- I won't have bones next time.

1539
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,200
- Yeah.

1540
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:11,040
- Maybe.

1541
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:11,880
- No promise.

1542
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,480
- I will still be sitting here without cupping bones.

1543
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:20,080
- Who knows, I might be off in the Redwood Forest,

1544
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,800
cupping bones, sitting up in the tree,

1545
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:24,280
waiting for my lumberjack.

1546
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:25,120
(laughs)

1547
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:25,960
- I'm gonna,

1548
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,440
that's the wichiest thing that I can really picture for you.

1549
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:33,480
- So, then like, plot twist later, I am the lumberjack.

1550
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,720
And I save myself.

1551
00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:37,840
- Wait.

1552
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,120
Were you needing saving in that scenario?

1553
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,200
- I don't know, I was up in a tree

1554
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,720
and I said, waiting for my lumberjack to come save me.

1555
00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:46,680
- I know, because now I'm like, okay,

1556
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,280
now I'm picturing her as a kitten.

1557
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:49,720
So, all right, well.

1558
00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:51,080
- I mean, all right.

1559
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:51,920
(laughs)

1560
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:52,920
- All right.

1561
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:53,760
- Okay, we can go.

1562
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:54,600
- Love it.

1563
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:55,600
Bye guys, bye.

1564
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:56,440
- You're creepy.

1565
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,040
(upbeat music)

1566
00:56:59,960 --> 00:57:02,840
(upbeat music)

1567
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,480
- She would scan the ground, seeking for safety.

1568
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:09,000
And I like skip words like the,

1569
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,400
an A, all the time, and it's so annoying.

1570
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:12,600
- You're like,

1571
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,200
you're like Kevin from the office.

1572
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:15,040
- I,

1573
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,200
(laughs)

1574
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:18,680
- When, thank you.

1575
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:19,880
(laughs)

1576
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,160
- No, you remember the skid I'm loving about.

1577
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:23,840
- You're loving the chilly on your carpet.

1578
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,520
- Oh my God.

1579
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,280
As long as it's not on my shoes.

1580
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,040
(laughs)

1581
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:31,520
- I'm gonna come Kevin and around

1582
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,040
with a big bodicellion,

1583
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:34,720
spill 'em on your wedding shoe.

1584
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:35,960
(laughs)

1585
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,320
- We didn't talk about earlier,

1586
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,160
where we're like, oh, we can't eat around your shoes.

1587
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,360
'Cause I'll probably be the one to spill shit on now.

1588
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,720
- I was really worried I was gonna spill style

1589
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,280
addressing something.

1590
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:47,200
- I would be.

1591
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:48,040
- Yeah.

1592
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:49,320
- Also way to bring it back to your shoes.

1593
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,800
- Yeah, I mean, everything comes back to the shoes.

1594
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:52,640
You know what I mean?

1595
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,440
(laughs)