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And I think because it's the property is so secretive, people aren't really allowed
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to go on there because it's private property.
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private, private.
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And because like the gate, the statues are visible.
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It's very intense.
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So unique and intense.
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And honestly, it's like stunning.
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I would love to have a gate like this.
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Hell yeah.
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It's so unfortunate that people like make up all these crazy stories about it.
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I know.
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Because it's just such an easy, it's an easy target.
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It's kind of low hanging fruit.
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Hi, Caitlyn?
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Okay, take two.
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I liked it.
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Okay.
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Hi, Cassie.
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Hi, creepy people.
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Oh, wow.
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This is PNW Haunts and Homicides where we chat about true crime, the paranormal and all things
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weird and creepy and cool in the Pacific Northwest.
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What is the Pacific Northwest, Caitlyn?
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So the PNW, if you're nasty.
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So nasty.
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And we know that you are.
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We might be getting nasty in this episode.
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Maybe a little.
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Maybe it's a little murky because spoiler alert, I might have stepped on Caitlyn's toes
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a little bit without asking.
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I forgot to ask because it's not murdery.
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Well, yeah.
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I mean, I feel like that's pretty free reign.
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Yeah.
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You've talked about cases that were murder adjacent before.
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I know you usually always ask you though.
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I'm like, hey, just by the way.
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Sometimes, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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But so I spoiled the topic of this.
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Yeah.
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That's true.
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For everyone.
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Yeah, for everyone.
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Which is fine.
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I just.
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And that's just fine.
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Once in a while, I give things away on accident.
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That's always on purpose.
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And so Caitlyn, I heard the topic and she looked it off apparently and was like, oh, this has
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like a true crime element to it.
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Like, would it be stepping on your toes if I like looked into this?
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And I was like, oh, shit.
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I was like, I literally wrote enough this up on it.
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I added all the crime.
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Unless you feel free to research after me in.
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Okay.
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If you dig anything out, you can do that.
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Dig anything out of its butt.
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Out of its, out of its tunnels.
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Oh, it's butt tunnels.
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Yeah.
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I'm really on butts right now.
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Are you?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I've been listening to a show that talks about butts a lot.
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Not in relation to the show and its content.
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They just really like to talk about butts.
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It's totally aside from their core content.
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So funny.
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Juicy.
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Yeah.
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Big fat juicy.
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Yeah, they talk about booty clapping.
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It's great.
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I'm enjoying it.
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Well, should we get into this?
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I don't know.
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On a scale of Caitlyn scooting further into her seat, somewhere in the neighborhood of one
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to ten times, where we, how many scoots are we on this one?
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Maybe one.
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Okay.
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It might be a one scooter.
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I don't think you're going to, I think you're going to be fine.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I realized just a few minutes ago that I'm understanding the biological responses that I've
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been describing where I feel as though I'm being chased by a rabid bear.
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Yeah.
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Very specific type of anxiety response that I'm having.
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I think it may have something to do with the cortado that I consumed.
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Oh, dude.
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That's a lot for you.
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I feel like.
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And pretty quickly, I might add, because it's only eight ounces.
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So I totally looked and like thought about getting one on the way here and I was like, I
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don't want to stop.
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Like if I'm already late, so I didn't get one.
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They're fucking delicious.
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First of all, you probably should have, because I'm a little hungover.
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Oh, okay.
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Well, we can help you out with that.
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But I'm drinking wine.
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So we're okay.
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It's that hair of the dog.
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Sash.
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Shush.
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Shush.
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Shush.
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- Sasquatch wine. - The Sighting.
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- The Sighting. - Trees, very on-brand.
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So just right off the top here, we're gonna establish
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that this is a private property that we're talking about.
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- Oh, so, dick road. Don't be dick and' all that.
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- It's a private property. There's neighbors really close.
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- Okay. - I'm not telling you to go there.
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Honestly, I probably wouldn't go there. - Yeah, sounds like that's not the move.
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- Honestly, the little bit that I do know.
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It sounds like that's not a vibe. - Yeah. - You know what I mean?
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- I'm more scared of people than anything else, I think.
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And I just don't wanna break any trespassing rules
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and get in trouble with the law. - With the law.
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- Yeah, so I will be staying away, but I'm gonna tell you about it.
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'Cause it's really interesting.
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And there's a lot of weird rumors and things associated with the property.
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So I gotta talk about it, right?
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- I'm so excited.
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In Damascus, Oregon, about 16 miles southwest from Portland, Oregon.
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Obviously.
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As one does, lies a property shrouded in mystery and crime.
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- Ooh. - Ooh.
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- Known as Oculus Anubis.
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- And I really just wanna put an echo on that, really bad.
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- I mean, we have the, listen, we have the technology.
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- We do. - Oculus is Latin for eye.
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- For eyeballs.
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- I don't know if you noticed.
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I wore my eyeball shirt, which I have worn recently,
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but I obviously had to wear it today.
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'Cause eyeballs. - Of course.
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- Of course.
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- And I don't really have an eyeball shirt
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and I didn't know that I should, but I happened to wear this planet.
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- Yeah, you're meaning someone. - I'm thinking of actually circles.
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It's got other circles that look like eyes you said earlier.
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So it works.
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Houston, I am the problem.
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- I feel like we can relate anything to anything.
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We do tarot, so.
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It's very interesting, though, this name, Oculus.
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We'll get back to it.
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- Okay.
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- And Anubis is the ancient Egyptian god of the afterlife.
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He cared for, preserved, and protected the dead.
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He has the body of a man in the head of a jackal.
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Also listener of the pod.
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Anubis.
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- Yeah. - Famously.
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- Obviously.
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I had to look up what a jackal was.
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'Cause obviously I knew it was a wild dog thing,
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but I never specifically looked it up.
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They're so cute.
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They're pretty cute.
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They look like coyotes, smaller coyotes with pointier taller ears.
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And really cool fur patterns.
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- Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Interesting.
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I found a video the other day of somebody who rescued a
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tiny baby fox.
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They look like kittens.
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When they're that young,
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"Oh, Foxy."
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They don't start to look like a fox right away.
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And then all of a sudden, they were like,
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"Oh, fark, we adopted a fox."
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- Whoopsie.
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I mean, I'm not mad about it.
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- That would be amazing.
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- Right.
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A freaking fox.
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Sorry, guess you live with me now.
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- You're a cat.
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- I feel like a jackal is kind of halfway between a fox and a coyote.
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- I like that.
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- Similar.
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Okay, so I'm going to send you some pictures.
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I'm going to air drop you some photos of the property.
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And then we're going to discuss, talk about
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what it looks like and all of that.
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So as you can see,
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in this photo, it is in a neighborhood.
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- It appears to be.
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- There are houses literally right next to the property.
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So they're really close.
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It's not like super secluded.
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The property itself is private property.
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And it's all gated off of that.
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Part is secluded,
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but it's not like in a specifically secluded area.
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It's in like a neighborhood.
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- I mean a neighborhood for Damascus.
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- Yeah, exactly.
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You just have to be there.
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- Yeah, it's big properties.
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It's not really close homes or anything.
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But there's homes, there's civilization.
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So when you're pulling in,
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it's kind of like the opening to their long driveway
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is kind of like a cul-de-sac or like a turnaround.
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- Yeah.
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- It's not technically cul-de-sac because there's not like other houses on it.
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- Right.
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It's just kind of like--
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- Yeah, but I mean circular in shape.
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- Yeah.
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- It's like the opening to their driveway.
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- Yeah.
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- So on either side of this opening to the cul-de-sac
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circular turnaround, do Hickey,
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there are two pyramids.
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- Yes, I see those.
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- They look kind of like, I don't know.
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Maybe like boob height to us, maybe?
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Maybe a little shorter.
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They don't look, depends on who we're talking about.
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- Right.
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- But us.
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Like probably if I go back to back with that pyramid,
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do you think it would be like your height?
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- It's hard to say without much for scale.
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- Yeah.
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- I'm gonna guess, it might be
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add or, you know, give or take.
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- Like a dick.
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- Like a dick.
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- They're not particularly big.
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They're not huge and they're not tiny.
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They're like--
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- Listen, you can't talk like that when I just said dick.
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- I know.
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I was hearing it as it was coming out of my mouth.
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- But anyway, there's two pyramids and they have,
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they used to have fire on top.
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I don't know if you can zoom in.
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You can see like little torches on the top.
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I don't think it's running anymore.
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- Yeah, no, I think actually that's one thing
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that previously when I looked at this,
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the pyrotectnics of it all,
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that's like the one thing that I heard is like,
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oh yeah, no, they shot that down.
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- Which is, I mean, understandable.
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- It's a bummer.
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- Once we start getting into this property.
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- Yeah.
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- So as you're going into past the pyramids,
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they have kind of a wall, like a stone wall.
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It's very mossy.
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There's a lot of ferns, green foliage, it's party.
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And then there is a big archway gate entrance.
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- That, it is.
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- It's very big, it looks like.
269
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It's got two lion statues on either side of it.
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So basically it's like my calling card.
271
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- Right.
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- I know I wrote that later somewhere in here,
273
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not those specific words, but we'll get to it.
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- Trusting.
275
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- And then the archway itself, it looks like it's also made
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from stone, but it's like black.
277
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I'm not sure if it's painted or if just the stone itself
278
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is like a black stone.
279
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I'm not pretty sure.
280
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- There is sort of like a, it's almost like an ombre effect.
281
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When you look at, it's like darkens the further back you go.
282
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- That is true.
283
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- Yeah.
284
00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,000
- Yeah, 'cause the stone that makes up like the wall
285
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and stuff that the lion sit on,
286
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it looks normal like gray stone.
287
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- Yeah.
288
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- And then once you get to this big archway, it's black.
289
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And then on the top of the archway is that same kind of like
290
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black stone, it's like a circular circle.
291
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- Yeah, almost like a medallion.
292
00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:23,560
- Yeah, yeah.
293
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- It kind of looks like a medallion on top.
294
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And then on this circle, that's on top of the archway.
295
00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,520
- Medallion, madame.
296
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- Circle, medallion, whatever.
297
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It kind of looks like a family crest almost.
298
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It's got like another lion up on its branches,
299
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on its own, you call it, like roaring up.
300
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- He's like standard up, he's on two legs.
301
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- Yeah.
302
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- And then on the other side, there is a dragon figure
303
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doing the same thing.
304
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And in the middle, it literally looks like another lion.
305
00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:58,360
- A lion.
306
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- Like a kind of like a sun.
307
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It's another circle medallion shape.
308
00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,920
- I mean, also I'm like, oh, I'm going crazy.
309
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- Yeah.
310
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And I'm like, maybe there's just so much a Leo's living here.
311
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There's so many lions.
312
00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:13,760
- Giving like very intense Leo energy like.
313
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- So these, the lion, this dragon figure,
314
00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,080
it has like wings and a tail and.
315
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- Also, I'm here with the dragon.
316
00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,280
- Oh, this is all about Caitlyn.
317
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- You guys.
318
00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,560
- No, so these things are, they're like copper
319
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and golden color.
320
00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,880
And then on top of it, it's hard to see,
321
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but there's something else.
322
00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,480
On top of the lion's sun medallion is a crown.
323
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But that's black.
324
00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,520
So it's harder to see.
325
00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,160
- You're so right.
326
00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:47,160
- If this is a Leo, I mean, this is very Leo vibes.
327
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Like put a lion on, I put a crown on it.
328
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- Y'all's playing.
329
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(laughing)
330
00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:54,520
- Wow.
331
00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,800
- So I was curious if this was like,
332
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if this meant anything.
333
00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:03,360
So I zoomed in on it and like Google photo,
334
00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:04,200
what's that called?
335
00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:05,560
Photo search set.
336
00:13:05,560 --> 00:13:06,400
- Image search.
337
00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:07,240
- Google image search.
338
00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:08,080
- Image search.
339
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- That's what I'm trying to say.
340
00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:10,720
- So Google image search set.
341
00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,640
And it does come up with like coat of arms,
342
00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,200
not nothing specifically.
343
00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,080
That's this specific type.
344
00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:17,920
- Oh, okay.
345
00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,680
- But just like the lion figure itself,
346
00:13:20,680 --> 00:13:23,240
I just learned a lot about heraldry
347
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that I just didn't even know I needed to know.
348
00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,760
- Say again about heraldry.
349
00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,000
- Okay.
350
00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,720
- It's like the art of coat of arms.
351
00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:33,720
- Okay, okay.
352
00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,560
- Of like the family crest type deleos.
353
00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:37,400
- Yeah, okay.
354
00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,520
- And a family crest is actually part of a coat of arms.
355
00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:41,360
- Oh.
356
00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:42,200
- I know a lot.
357
00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:43,200
I didn't really like it.
358
00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:44,120
It's not, it's not.
359
00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:45,120
- It's interesting though.
360
00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:45,960
- It is interesting.
361
00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,160
I went down a weird rabbit hole, but I like it.
362
00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,640
- Yeah, I don't need to take you guys down there with me.
363
00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:51,760
- I mean, whatever.
364
00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,440
- But it does kind of seem like they just took like images
365
00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,440
and like maybe made their own.
366
00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,720
I didn't find anything that this specifically meant anything,
367
00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:00,720
but it could.
368
00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:01,560
- Tristan.
369
00:14:01,560 --> 00:14:02,480
- I don't know.
370
00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,400
But I tried Google in it.
371
00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:05,400
I tried.
372
00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:09,280
Also the two lion statues, those are no longer there.
373
00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,440
- What?
374
00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,320
- Because dicks, vandalizing.
375
00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:14,480
- Oh, no.
376
00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,880
- One of them got stolen.
377
00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,560
Yeah, so they're unfortunately no longer there.
378
00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,840
And that's really sad to me, because I'm like,
379
00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,880
those are like the gate protectors, you know?
380
00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:24,880
- Yeah.
381
00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,440
I was just thinking to myself, which would be more difficult.
382
00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:33,440
Stealing a stone lion or a real live lion.
383
00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,640
- I, I don't know, man.
384
00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,600
And these are like, they're like made of like brass
385
00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,080
or some kind of metal too.
386
00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,920
- They're quite sizable, so no small feet.
387
00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:45,760
- Ridiculous.
388
00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,480
And I think one of them like someone just like push it down.
389
00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:52,960
They're probably like kids, stupid dumb kids.
390
00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:58,000
- You guys again, dick road, don't be a dick.
391
00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,160
I know, you know?
392
00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,920
- The gates are like iron or something.
393
00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,000
It's like a pretty pattern iron.
394
00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,160
You can see through it.
395
00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,480
So when you look through, you can see down the road
396
00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,320
and the road starts to curve.
397
00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,040
And at the, at the curve in the road, at the bend in the road,
398
00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,720
there is an Egyptian statue.
399
00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,400
I was like, what is this?
400
00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,800
'Cause the picture that I have, I can't really,
401
00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,760
I was like, it's a statue.
402
00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,880
- Okay, now I'm sending you the zoomed-in photo.
403
00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:24,880
- Yay!
404
00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:29,240
- Okay, so this is, a lot of people would assume, Anubis
405
00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,720
because the place is known as Oculus and Anubis, right?
406
00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,520
This is very clearly not a new bus.
407
00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,720
This is, oh, obviously.
408
00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,320
- Very clearly.
409
00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:39,880
Because I have done the research.
410
00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,160
Well, actually I do know what Anubis looks like.
411
00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:43,800
And I was like, just looking at it,
412
00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,240
I can tell this has like a lion face and Anubis.
413
00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:48,800
Like we talked about is a jackal.
414
00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,520
So I was like, well, this doesn't really look like him.
415
00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:52,800
- No, that makes sense.
416
00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:53,640
- Okay.
417
00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:54,800
- But a lot of people do say that,
418
00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,600
that's who that is in the statue, but it's not.
419
00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,360
It's the Egyptian goddess, Sekhmet.
420
00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,680
- Okay, Sekhmet has a woman's body
421
00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:08,680
and the head of a lioness with a halo-esque sun disk
422
00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:09,600
on her head.
423
00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,440
- Okay, I'm glad you explained that.
424
00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,040
- Because I was like, that's a hat.
425
00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,880
- Yeah, no, it's the sun representative of the sun.
426
00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:18,720
- All right.
427
00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:19,640
- And that kind of makes sense
428
00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,800
because she was created from the fire of the sun God, Ra.
429
00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,120
- Ever heard of them?
430
00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,560
- No. - Not familiar.
431
00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,360
- Nope.
432
00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,080
See, done anything lately?
433
00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,320
- Not lately, I don't think.
434
00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,160
- Haven't seen him at the box office.
435
00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,520
- Don't smite me Ra.
436
00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,440
- I don't know if he does that or not.
437
00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,920
- I feel like that's a uniquely Judeo-Christian
438
00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:43,440
type of a vibe.
439
00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:44,440
- I don't know.
440
00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,120
- Ancient Egypt gods are not super nice
441
00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,840
and we're gonna go into it right about now.
442
00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,160
- Excellent.
443
00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,360
- So she's also known as the Eye of Ra,
444
00:16:55,360 --> 00:17:00,160
which is a very powerful symbol of fury and violence,
445
00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,680
but also of protection and healing.
446
00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:03,880
- Okay.
447
00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,840
- So two sides to that coin.
448
00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,200
- Oh yeah, for sure.
449
00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:08,040
- All right.
450
00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,520
- Just like Sekhmet, who is known
451
00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,520
as the Goddess of War and Healing.
452
00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:14,520
- Okay.
453
00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:15,400
- All right.
454
00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,480
Listen, people can be complicated.
455
00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:18,720
- Very complicated.
456
00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:19,560
- I get that.
457
00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,560
- Especially gods and goddesses, you know?
458
00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,720
They got a lot going on, okay?
459
00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:28,160
- I mean, situations are nuanced and it's a lot.
460
00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,440
- She was also the patron deity of physicians and healers.
461
00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:33,520
- Oh.
462
00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,480
- So that is for what a pain in that
463
00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,280
as Caitlyn would like to say.
464
00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,400
- I don't like to say that at all.
465
00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,960
- You say it every episode.
466
00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,520
- I mean, but I don't like that I do.
467
00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:49,400
- I love it.
468
00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:50,840
- If it makes anyone feel better,
469
00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,280
I don't like that that's what I say.
470
00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:54,280
- But here we are.
471
00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:55,120
- I love it.
472
00:17:55,120 --> 00:17:56,680
And then I also love when you add it
473
00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,160
and it's just like so automatic,
474
00:17:58,160 --> 00:17:59,000
but you're like, wait,
475
00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,080
you don't need to pin that
476
00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,680
'cause I'm talking to you about it right now.
477
00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:03,520
- I know.
478
00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:04,640
- No pins.
479
00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:05,880
- That's come up a few times.
480
00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,680
- That's my favorite thing.
481
00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,080
- Take your pin out.
482
00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:10,920
- There it is.
483
00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,440
- Here it is.
484
00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,000
- So why does everyone think that this entrance
485
00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,680
to this property looks so evil and even satanic?
486
00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,320
People think it's like evil and satanic.
487
00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:23,640
- All right.
488
00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,280
- 'Cause there's stuck in the 90s and I guess,
489
00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,480
I guess I missed the memo of like when Egypt
490
00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:35,480
became like evil and satanic, like Egyptian imagery.
491
00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,360
- I guess I missed the memo where I'm supposed
492
00:18:37,360 --> 00:18:39,120
to panic about satanism.
493
00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:39,960
- Right, also.
494
00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,080
- I know, what is the satanic panic?
495
00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,680
It's all weird to me and I don't understand it.
496
00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:45,680
- Yeah.
497
00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,840
- Also pyramids, like why are those bad?
498
00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:49,800
- Not really sure.
499
00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,360
They're on our money.
500
00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:52,200
- Yeah.
501
00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,880
- I literally brought a dollar bill out
502
00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,360
because there's a pyramid on it with an eyeball on top.
503
00:18:57,360 --> 00:18:58,200
- Yeah.
504
00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:59,200
- I mean,
505
00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:00,120
- Oculus.
506
00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:00,720
- What is it,
507
00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,280
E pluribus unum
508
00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:03,200
509
00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:04,040
510
00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,120
- I don't fucking know.
511
00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:06,360
- I'm pretty sure that's what it is.
512
00:19:06,360 --> 00:19:07,560
- Well, language is that.
513
00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:08,400
- It's Latin.
514
00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:09,880
- No.
515
00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,520
- I should know, I know Oculus.
516
00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:12,360
- Yeah.
517
00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:18,080
- So I feel like eyes are like a strong theme
518
00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,520
in Egyptian culture to it kind of feels like.
519
00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:22,360
- I think so.
520
00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:23,200
- Yeah.
521
00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,280
- What do you mean they guess there is kind of another theme here
522
00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:31,360
that people could consider evil, like fire, death gods,
523
00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:34,360
anubis, you know, he's a death god.
524
00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:36,240
People are scared of death as we know.
525
00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,400
So they just label it all evil.
526
00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:39,400
- Oh, are they?
527
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:40,400
- Wow.
528
00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:41,240
- Yeah.
529
00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,280
- They are a bunch of plebs.
530
00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:44,720
- I don't know what that means.
531
00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,240
- It's kind of like saying like plebian is like,
532
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,240
- Oh.
533
00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,720
- Almost like peasant.
534
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:51,560
- Oh.
535
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,680
- Just to put it in like the most, like,
536
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,760
what a foolish concern.
537
00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,960
- Seriously, like we're all gonna end up there.
538
00:19:58,960 --> 00:19:59,800
Like,
539
00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:00,920
why are you gonna be so scared?
540
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:01,920
- Yeah.
541
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,560
- 'Cause it's fucking scary.
542
00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,680
- Well, it's just, it's interesting to me
543
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,480
that anything to do with like death,
544
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,640
people like wanna label evil.
545
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:11,480
- Yeah.
546
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,920
- I do think that's like where it becomes sort of a
547
00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,680
misnomer, I guess.
548
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:17,520
- Yeah.
549
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:18,640
- Like they're not causing the death.
550
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,080
They're just taking care of the dead.
551
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,920
Like one day you want someone to take care of you
552
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,360
when you cross over.
553
00:20:23,360 --> 00:20:26,800
- Just saying like, if you're gonna die,
554
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,280
maybe you want that guy in to like,
555
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,360
everyone will die.
556
00:20:30,360 --> 00:20:31,400
- Yeah.
557
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:32,400
- Was it when I'm trying to say,
558
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:33,880
"Boylar alert."
559
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:34,720
- Yeah.
560
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,360
- Just trying to soften the blow, okay?
561
00:20:36,360 --> 00:20:38,280
- So even like with the black stones,
562
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:43,280
I feel like people look at the color black as evil as well.
563
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,000
- As we all know, black is evil.
564
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,200
- It's so, it's so infuriating,
565
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,680
'cause it's like my favorite color.
566
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,280
It's the best color in the world.
567
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,400
And it was a very fortunate color for Egyptians,
568
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,520
because it was the color of the rich soil
569
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,280
that was left after the Nile would flood.
570
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:02,120
- Yeah.
571
00:21:02,120 --> 00:21:04,960
So to them, it symbolized fertility, new life,
572
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,600
and resurrection.
573
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:07,440
Makes sense.
574
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:08,280
- Yeah.
575
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,760
Very fortunate.
576
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:10,840
- Black is a great color.
577
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,640
- Black and gold also.
578
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:13,480
- Yeah.
579
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,320
- Basically my wedding colors, black, golden blush.
580
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:17,360
- You're,
581
00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:18,520
Oculus Anubis.
582
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:19,360
- Basically.
583
00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:24,720
- Also with Sekhmet being a very powerful woman
584
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,680
associated with worn violence,
585
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,120
even sometimes referred to as the mistress of dread,
586
00:21:31,120 --> 00:21:35,520
the mallor, or the lady of slaughter.
587
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,320
- Oh my.
588
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,480
- So I could see how people could turn something like that
589
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:41,560
into something evil,
590
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,120
even though she's also known for healing.
591
00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:47,040
- Yeah, I mean, to be fair, that does imply,
592
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,920
I mean, literally the word dread, I feel.
593
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:50,760
- Yeah.
594
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,840
- I could understand that it creates a little bit of a sense
595
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,160
of foreboding.
596
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,040
- I mean, just don't be on the herb outside, you know?
597
00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,120
- Yeah, that's right.
598
00:21:59,120 --> 00:22:00,440
- Do the good things in life.
599
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,080
That reminds me of like when I discovered that,
600
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,720
you know, I would be a doom witch,
601
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:05,720
I was like,
602
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:06,720
- Oh, yeah.
603
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:07,720
- Yeah.
604
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,000
- You know, embrace it.
605
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:09,840
- Yes.
606
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:14,240
- So I wanna read you this fact from Sekhmet's good side.
607
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,120
I just, I think it's so much fun,
608
00:22:16,120 --> 00:22:17,600
and I'm such a cat person,
609
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,920
so I just have to give you this fun fact.
610
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,160
From Egyptianmuseum.org.
611
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,400
- Give it to me.
612
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:25,480
- Quote,
613
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,600
the ancient Egyptians believe that Sekhmet
614
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,760
had the cure for every problem.
615
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,040
In order to stand her good side,
616
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,560
they offered her food and drink,
617
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,920
played music for her, and burned incense.
618
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,280
They would whisper their prayers into the ears
619
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,560
of cat mummies,
620
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,800
and offer them to Sekhmet.
621
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,680
They believe that this was a direct connection
622
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:46,760
to the deities,
623
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,280
and their prayers would be answered.
624
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,640
- That's so cute.
625
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:55,280
- They whispered into little kitty mummy ears.
626
00:22:55,280 --> 00:23:00,280
I am a little bit sad about the cat mummies.
627
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,800
- I mean, they die,
628
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,440
and then that preserved.
629
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,400
- Not always how mummies happen.
630
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:06,960
- Well, we can just pretend that the cat's
631
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,520
all died of natural causes.
632
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,520
- We're just gonna say that all mummies died of natural causes.
633
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,280
- All mummies died of natural causes.
634
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,960
And they were preserved very beautifully.
635
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,360
- Yes.
636
00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:20,440
- We obviously, we know there's some history there,
637
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,000
but we're not here to go into all that.
638
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,480
- Yeah.
639
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,640
- So she can breathe flames down upon you,
640
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:32,360
but if you feed her and give her some music,
641
00:23:32,360 --> 00:23:33,680
some nice atmosphere,
642
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,520
she can solve all your problems.
643
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:36,680
- Cassie,
644
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:37,520
- What?
645
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,480
- Like a dragon and a lion.
646
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:40,320
- Yes.
647
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,080
- It's like cat-like,
648
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,480
and then like very mother of dragons.
649
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,880
- Well, I was like, I feel like this is how all women should be.
650
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,600
Oh, are we not all?
651
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:51,440
- Kind of.
652
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:52,480
(laughing)
653
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,280
- Just give us food and you'll be fine.
654
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,240
- Feed me tacos and tell me that I'm pretty.
655
00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,440
Or fried chicken.
656
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,040
- Yeah, fried chicken chicken.
657
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,480
- There's also another interesting rumor
658
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:05,720
about the property,
659
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:10,000
and I don't really think if anyone knows if they're actually built,
660
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,280
but the property does have permits
661
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,840
for heated underground tunnels.
662
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:17,680
- Ooh.
663
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,680
- Yeah.
664
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,880
- So that's interesting and people's like,
665
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,480
minds just go wild with all of this.
666
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,400
Like why are there underground tunnels?
667
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,680
What are they doing down there?
668
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,560
And I think because it's the property is so secretive,
669
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,480
people aren't really allowed to go on there
670
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,200
because it's private property.
671
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,640
- Private property.
672
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,360
- And because like the gate,
673
00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:43,720
the statues are visible.
674
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:44,880
- It's very intense. - Very intense.
675
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,520
- So unique and intense.
676
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,640
And honestly, it's like stunning.
677
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,760
- I would love to have a gate like this.
678
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:52,920
- Hell yeah.
679
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,360
- It's so unfortunate that people make up all these crazy stories
680
00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:57,200
about it.
681
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,040
- I know.
682
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,680
- 'Cause it's just such an easy target.
683
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,120
- It's kind of low hanging fruit,
684
00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:05,640
but like, I don't know, try harder at life.
685
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:06,480
You know?
686
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:07,480
- Well.
687
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,840
- The rumors were fueled by, can you guess it?
688
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:12,680
- Dicks.
689
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:13,520
- Reddit.
690
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,880
- Close. - Close.
691
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,640
(laughs)
692
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,520
- Yeah, it's different but same same.
693
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:19,440
You know?
694
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,960
- So there is a Reddit post saying that this person drove
695
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,840
down the driveway to the house.
696
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:25,680
- Okay.
697
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,240
- And said that when they rolled up to the house,
698
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,920
all the windows were open.
699
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,960
Like all the blinds were open, all the lights were on.
700
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,440
And there was just a bunch of people standing in the windows
701
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,440
staring back at them.
702
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:40,960
- Oh, okay.
703
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:41,800
Yeah.
704
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,000
So now I am starting to get a little bit of an evil fight.
705
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:45,840
- Right.
706
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,280
- Because that's the nightmare fuel.
707
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,240
- Does sound like, it's very creepy
708
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,600
and they said that they were like pretty much standing still
709
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,000
for like a long time just staring at their car.
710
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,160
- That's horrific.
711
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,320
It's the worst flash mob in history.
712
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,080
- Just like a, oh my God, like a silent still flash mob.
713
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,400
- Well, that's how they are before they do the dance, you know?
714
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,520
They are all like, a lot of times.
715
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,160
- Like, are milling about and then start.
716
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,120
But can you imagine if people are just milling about
717
00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:18,160
and then everyone all this ends to stops?
718
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,840
Like, would you think that's like a really good prank, honestly?
719
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,240
I kind of, I want someone to do that to me.
720
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,280
- I hate that.
721
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,680
I hate that so much.
722
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,040
Don't you fucking dare.
723
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,520
- I would be like the world is frozen.
724
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,400
I can go rob a bank.
725
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,400
- Oh, okay.
726
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,520
Well, you know, we might have a thing or two to say about that.
727
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:38,360
Okay.
728
00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:39,200
So here we are.
729
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,080
We're at our first official scoot.
730
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,120
- Oh, well, I might bring you down though.
731
00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:46,760
- Well, it's a half-scoot technically.
732
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,680
I did say you could get one good at least one.
733
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:50,520
- Yeah, for sure.
734
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:51,520
- Okay.
735
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,720
People also say that they, if they do venture on to the property,
736
00:26:54,720 --> 00:27:00,120
they get chased out by like either cars or other people.
737
00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:02,680
They just, you know, people come and find them
738
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,560
and chase them off the property.
739
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,440
- But not rabbid bears.
740
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:07,680
- I guess not.
741
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,080
Okay, rabbid bears.
742
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,720
So not that I know.
743
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:11,560
That's good.
744
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,280
But I'm like, it's private property.
745
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:20,280
It might seem normal for people to be chased off private property
746
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:25,160
that they're on without the owner's permission.
747
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,000
So I don't know.
748
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,000
I don't feel like that matters.
749
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,360
Probably not as sinister as it sounds.
750
00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:32,200
- Exactly.
751
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,040
- Yeah.
752
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:33,880
- Okay.
753
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,360
And two, I was thinking if the story is true
754
00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:37,760
about the people in the windows,
755
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:42,760
which it was on Reddit, on a known creepy pasta-esque.
756
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,560
- Okay.
757
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,280
- So Reddit, whatever it's called, I don't even know.
758
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,440
- I've come to understand that everything
759
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:54,440
that is posted on Reddit is, of course, based in fact.
760
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,560
- So factual.
761
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:57,400
- Yeah.
762
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,240
- Yeah.
763
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,360
- So everyone's fact checking everyone
764
00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:01,680
and everything is fine.
765
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:02,520
- Yeah.
766
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,640
So I mean, this is like a real red string conspiracy theory
767
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:07,720
territory, but yeah.
768
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,560
- Please go on.
769
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,400
- I am going on.
770
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,240
- Okay.
771
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,000
- My thought was maybe they were having a big party.
772
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,280
- And everyone knew that everyone was at the party
773
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,480
and there was no other arrivals.
774
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:24,480
So they see this car coming down the private dark driveway.
775
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,840
What are you gonna do if you're not expecting someone
776
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:28,760
who's coming in a car?
777
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,040
You're gonna look out the fucking windows, right?
778
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:31,880
- True.
779
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:32,720
- True.
780
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,320
Or what if, what if something else happened
781
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,720
where all of a sudden everybody wants to like,
782
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,800
you're just like you heard a weird sound
783
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:42,800
and one person goes,
784
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,200
right, you're all listening.
785
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:51,160
I imagine if that was true, something like that probably.
786
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,080
- And I feel yeah.
787
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:52,920
- Yeah.
788
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:53,760
- Okay.
789
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,440
- And honestly, if you're on my private property,
790
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,520
I might try to be creepy and stare you down
791
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,520
from my window too.
792
00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:59,360
- All right.
793
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:00,560
Get the fuck out of here.
794
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,400
I'm at a party.
795
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:02,840
I don't wanna chase you.
796
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:07,240
- I might just stare you down if you come into my space
797
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,760
at any particular time.
798
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,160
Like, you know, private property or not.
799
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,760
Like, seriously.
800
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:13,600
Get out.
801
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,440
- Totally.
802
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:15,440
Leave everyone alone.
803
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,760
There's also a rumor,
804
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,280
but the gate is unlocked on Halloween Eve.
805
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,680
- Ooh.
806
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,160
- Which is very spooky,
807
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,240
but I'm like, are they trying to just like pass out candies?
808
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,320
- Halloween Eve.
809
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:30,240
- Halloween Eve.
810
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,080
- Halloween Eve.
811
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,080
- Does that mean the eve of like Halloween night
812
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,240
are like the day before?
813
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,120
- That's like October 4th, I feel like.
814
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:37,960
- Do they mean like,
815
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,960
- I'm interpreting that as the day that I was conceived.
816
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,280
- Right.
817
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,440
Oh.
818
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,000
- Why are you thinking about that?
819
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,200
- Because my due date was July 30th,
820
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,800
and I was born on the 29th,
821
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,520
and I feel like, I don't know,
822
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,960
part of me is feeling like it's calling from here.
823
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,320
It's private property, so, you know,
824
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,480
not gonna do anything about it, but like.
825
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,080
- Yeah, 'cause like typically we think of like Christmas Eve
826
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,280
as like the day before.
827
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,120
So yeah.
828
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:04,960
- Yeah.
829
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:05,800
- That's interesting.
830
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,560
Like why would it be unlocked?
831
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:09,960
Obviously this is a rumor too.
832
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,800
I don't know for sure.
833
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,120
Someone did say that they went,
834
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,680
and they were able to get in on Halloween Eve,
835
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,400
but they didn't go too far, they got scared and laughed.
836
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,240
(laughing)
837
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,760
You know, that happens.
838
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,160
- I'm too much of a chicken gin.
839
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,600
I'm not suggesting that I'm going to go.
840
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,640
- Yeah, I think everyone should be clear on that.
841
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,760
- No, but if they were like passing out candy
842
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,640
or something like totally I would go.
843
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,800
- Oh, I wonder if that's like maybe they're really
844
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,360
into Halloween, and they're like anybody who dames
845
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,760
to like come down.
846
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,320
- The day before?
847
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,360
- Well, they unlock it the day before
848
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,520
so that it's good and ready, and it probably takes you
849
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,800
until the 31st, walk your way down to the front door.
850
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,680
- Or do they want to trap all of that?
851
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:55,520
- That's what I was thinking.
852
00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,040
- Children who try to come in the gate on Halloween Eve.
853
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,480
(laughing)
854
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,920
- Part of me thinks too, like what if this is a typo
855
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,560
and someone wrote like all Hallows Eve,
856
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,760
and they changed it to like Halloween Eve?
857
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:10,840
- I don't know.
858
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,560
- That would be interesting.
859
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,560
- I'm thinking too hard about this.
860
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,320
- I don't think you can ever think too hard about anything.
861
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,200
- You're using my hat rack here.
862
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,640
- That's right.
863
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,680
- I did joke about like trapping the children,
864
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:28,520
but people do accuse them of being human traffickers.
865
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:29,880
- Oh, I did see this.
866
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,600
- Yeah, because of like the tunnels and things.
867
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:33,880
- But very Shanghai.
868
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:38,480
- There's really no people say there was like smoke
869
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,320
and like other buildings like coming from the property
870
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,160
that we're shady looking, but those aren't pictures
871
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,000
of this property.
872
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,280
They're like completely something that somebody made up.
873
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,120
- Okay.
874
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:54,120
- Also, how does one go about becoming or appearing
875
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,040
as a shady building?
876
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,840
- They were just like spooky looking.
877
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,640
- I didn't take the photo.
878
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:04,640
I didn't get it.
879
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,440
- 'Cause they're like, they're obviously not real.
880
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,760
- Yeah, it was just like a weird set of like domed buildings,
881
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,400
like little buildings and I don't even know
882
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,000
where the photo came from.
883
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:14,840
- It just--
884
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,080
- And domes obviously infamously shady.
885
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,120
- Evil and shady.
886
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,120
They're hiding people in there.
887
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,320
- Listeners of the pod, but infamously shady.
888
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,800
- I think it mostly comes from the tunnels.
889
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:26,640
- Okay.
890
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,600
- The fact that there's tunnels and then there is some people
891
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,240
who have gone onto the property and I think
892
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,440
they're photos of the property.
893
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,000
I can't really quite be sure.
894
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,320
- Yeah, you're like, I haven't been there.
895
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,160
So it's kind of hard to fact check.
896
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,000
- Who knows?
897
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,040
I mean, it's like so many trees and things.
898
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,600
It could be of anywhere, really.
899
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,880
But I did link to it if anyone's really curious.
900
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,560
You can go through and look in my links for things.
901
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,800
But so people have gone onto the property
902
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,240
and there's some other like statues.
903
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,560
I think I saw like a statue of raw that was,
904
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,680
he's got like a bird face, which does make sense
905
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,160
'cause he's related to segment, right?
906
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,320
- Yeah.
907
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,960
- It's unfortunate as faces go.
908
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:06,800
- Bird face.
909
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:07,640
- Bird face.
910
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,280
He's like in a cage.
911
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,400
Like it's not like set up.
912
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,360
He's like still in his like enclosure.
913
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,520
I don't know from like when they transferred the statue.
914
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,360
I'm thinking.
915
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,800
- Interesting.
916
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,240
- And then there's like some statues of like water
917
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,880
in the base and people say like,
918
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,200
oh look, you can see stairs leading down
919
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,160
and I'm like, I can't see anything.
920
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,880
I feel like you can.
921
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,800
Is that is that so?
922
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:32,640
- Yeah.
923
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:33,480
- Okay.
924
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,560
- Even if there were like, I don't know.
925
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,000
That's kind of cool.
926
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:37,840
- Yeah.
927
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:38,680
- It looked and.
928
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,160
- And.
929
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,000
- And.
930
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:41,840
- Yeah.
931
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,240
- But they think they like lead down to the tunnels
932
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,080
and shit.
933
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,720
And then there's also this one photo of,
934
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,960
it looks like a bunch of like boulders and rocks
935
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,440
but the rock it looks like a flat like doorway almost.
936
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,280
- Ooh.
937
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,040
- There's like, it doesn't look like there's really
938
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,720
any way to open it or anything.
939
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,120
I don't know if it's actually a doorway
940
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,200
or if that's just like what it looked like
941
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,040
when they were doing their landscaping.
942
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,280
I really don't know.
943
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:06,120
- Yeah.
944
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,680
- So it's like a lot of yes-ending
945
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,320
to get to the place that some people have.
946
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,160
- Yeah.
947
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,000
- Yeah.
948
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:14,840
They're working themselves up.
949
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:15,680
- Yeah, exactly.
950
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,320
Cause I'm like, you can see these things individually.
951
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,640
You don't know what they were intended for.
952
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:21,480
- Yeah.
953
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,360
- That you could just make it fit whatever
954
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,200
- Human trafficking rumor that you would like.
955
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,040
- Yeah.
956
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,080
Maybe they're not trafficking people.
957
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,000
Maybe they're trafficking drugs.
958
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:31,840
- Maybe.
959
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:32,680
- There you go.
960
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:33,520
Let's start a new rumor.
961
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:34,360
- Anything.
962
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,080
- Don't start any rumor.
963
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,440
- I'm just saying it goes to sort of what you're saying about.
964
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,120
You don't know what the intent is.
965
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,360
- Right.
966
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,680
- Right.
967
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,120
- But also I'm like, wait, who hasn't said,
968
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,760
I know we have.
969
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,840
Like we would love to get a property
970
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,480
and build houses on it and then have them connect
971
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:55,640
through tunnels.
972
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,400
That would be pretty cool.
973
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,280
- And have secret rooms and stuff.
974
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,960
Can you imagine all the evil rumors
975
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,400
they're gonna have about us?
976
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,920
- It's across I'm willing to bear.
977
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:07,760
- Believe it or not.
978
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,120
- Just don't vandalize my shit.
979
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:09,960
- Okay.
980
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:10,800
- No.
981
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:11,760
I mean, we'll have electric fences.
982
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,040
So that won't be a problem.
983
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,120
- Buzz buzz, buzz buzz.
984
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,760
- Oh, they do say that they have like cameras
985
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:17,600
all around the property.
986
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:18,840
So I don't know if I've mentioned.
987
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:19,680
- So it's gonna say that.
988
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:20,680
- Did I talk about that?
989
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:21,520
- No.
990
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,560
- Did I think that makes sense?
991
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,400
- Yeah.
992
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,280
People have said they've seen them like in the pyramids
993
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,760
at the front and like in the trees and stuff.
994
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,480
- Did they see that thing where it's like in Jason Bourne
995
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,480
or other, I don't know, whatever fucking movie
996
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,400
where like the camera like it turns its, you know?
997
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,520
Like it turns its head like it's falling you.
998
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:41,520
- I don't know.
999
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,720
- 'Cause the creep factor of that.
1000
00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:44,560
- Yeah.
1001
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:45,400
- I'm with that.
1002
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,240
- Like that.
1003
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:49,480
- And people say when they just like come to the entrance too,
1004
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,200
they'll like be there for a couple minutes taking photos
1005
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,200
and then all of a sudden someone will like drive up
1006
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,200
or come up and like tell them to leave.
1007
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,360
Like, bye.
1008
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,200
- Yeah.
1009
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,520
Like basically chasing them off just less dramatic.
1010
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:01,360
- Yeah.
1011
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,080
- They're chasing them off, but you know,
1012
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,640
from behind gate and asking politely.
1013
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,280
- Yeah, there was various stories about the chasing off.
1014
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,920
You know, there was dramatic ones,
1015
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,320
there was less dramatic ones, but it's a theme for sure.
1016
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,040
So they could be watching you, just be prepared.
1017
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,320
Don't go there, but.
1018
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:20,520
- Well, you know, if you do,
1019
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,640
if you're probably watching you.
1020
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:23,480
- Mm.
1021
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,000
- You know,
1022
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,000
- Fogger.
1023
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,800
- Makes so much sense later.
1024
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,040
(laughs)
1025
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,600
- People also accuse them of being a cult.
1026
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,400
- I mean, I see how they get there, maybe.
1027
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:39,240
- I don't know.
1028
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:40,560
- Big property,
1029
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,800
multiple houses being built on the property.
1030
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:44,640
- Tumor.
1031
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:45,320
- I know, I sounded really giggly.
1032
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:46,160
- Oh, giggly.
1033
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,320
- When I saw that, sorry.
1034
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,320
- Right.
1035
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,920
- Yeah, tunnels.
1036
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,960
All this Egyptian stuff, it's a thing.
1037
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,720
It's another one of those rumors that just,
1038
00:36:55,720 --> 00:36:57,280
I feel like snowballs.
1039
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:02,280
In general, I do think that when white people co-opt a,
1040
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,720
you know, culture or religion that is foreign to them,
1041
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:08,960
that does feel very colty.
1042
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,760
So I get that, you know.
1043
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,560
- Like if you're not familiar with it.
1044
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:13,400
- Yeah.
1045
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,160
- You're just like, I made this up.
1046
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,680
- There was one, oh my God, this is so bad.
1047
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,520
There was one podcast I was listening to,
1048
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:21,520
and I,
1049
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:22,360
- Not gonna name it.
1050
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,200
- And I didn't link it.
1051
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,560
- But you'll tell me later, right?
1052
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:25,400
- I don't know if I ever-
1053
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,200
- She's like, I don't even fucking care about them.
1054
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,240
- Yeah, I can probably try to find it real quick,
1055
00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:34,240
but they said, "The entire town of Damascus
1056
00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:36,320
was involved in the cult."
1057
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,440
- No.
1058
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,080
- That seems like something.
1059
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,320
- Yeah, like probably you don't have two nickels
1060
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,520
to rub together, I'm guessing.
1061
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,280
But that seems like, you know,
1062
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,320
you might wanna be a little bit more careful
1063
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:51,800
about the things that you say
1064
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,440
because people can sue you.
1065
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:54,280
- Yeah.
1066
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,200
- For words to come out of your wordful.
1067
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,040
- Right.
1068
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,400
- I just thought that was like a crazy,
1069
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,680
the craziest, one of the craziest statements I'd ever heard,
1070
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,760
like trying to be a razor.
1071
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,440
- They just like, they have like a new initiative
1072
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,320
on their next ballot.
1073
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,160
- Oh, right.
1074
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,760
- And they're like, we want to basically take like,
1075
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,120
X percent of our city's revenue,
1076
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,320
and we wanna use it to sue the living shit
1077
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,680
out of these ridiculous podcast.
1078
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:22,520
- Yeah.
1079
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:23,960
- Not us, not other ones.
1080
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,160
- Yeah, hopefully you listen
1081
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,080
because like I'm trying to clear this shit up, okay?
1082
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,280
I'm trying to be one of the good guys.
1083
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,760
- That's just wild though.
1084
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,680
- Yeah, the entire toll of Damascus is in this cult.
1085
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,560
Because of this one house that has a cool fancy gate,
1086
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,400
like it's crazy.
1087
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,240
- Listen, I don't know, maybe that's accurate.
1088
00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:48,040
Seems like a little bit of a reach to me.
1089
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,520
I'd like to see some receipts.
1090
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:50,360
- Yeah.
1091
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,240
- I mean, I feel like also people just kinda like poop
1092
00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:54,000
on the town because it is one of the towns
1093
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,400
and Oregon that is not blue.
1094
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,120
It's one of the red sections of Oregon.
1095
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,600
But they don't deserve to be accused of being an occult
1096
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,400
and unless they aren't.
1097
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:07,920
- They're actually doing bad things.
1098
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:08,760
- Yeah.
1099
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,080
- Are you doing bad things?
1100
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,360
- Are you actually a cult?
1101
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,200
- Yeah.
1102
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,640
- I think they're probably fine.
1103
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,280
- Yeah.
1104
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,840
- There is another reason though
1105
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,360
that people think that there's some sort of cult involved.
1106
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,880
This is getting crazy, okay?
1107
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,120
- This is where the juicy, the juicy's are.
1108
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,120
- The juicy juices.
1109
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,520
- This is where the juicy's are.
1110
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,480
- It's where the juicy juices.
1111
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:32,720
That's where I wanna be.
1112
00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:34,320
- Juicy fruit.
1113
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,960
- There is a website, OculusInubis.com.
1114
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,920
- Okay, yeah, yeah.
1115
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,720
- The quote on the, I think this is on like the first page
1116
00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:45,160
of the website.
1117
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:50,160
It says, "As a 501(c)(3) non-profit religious organization."
1118
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,360
- Did notice that?
1119
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,200
- Yeah.
1120
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,960
- We are committed to our goal of reclaiming
1121
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,800
and preserving our sacred spaces.
1122
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:03,040
Sustainably establishing a center focused on spiritual healing
1123
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,040
while actively combating trafficking,
1124
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,280
standing against racism involving the land.
1125
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,040
Does that make any sense to anybody?
1126
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:19,520
- I think I've latched on to some part of that
1127
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:25,880
that I vaguely might have an idea of what they're saying.
1128
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:34,480
Unfortunately, they have gone about saying it in a,
1129
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,040
it's a Caesar word salad.
1130
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,840
- It is very word salad-y.
1131
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,440
- Like, yeah.
1132
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,400
- And very interesting too that they mentioned trafficking
1133
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,040
'cause that's like one of the rumors.
1134
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,480
So that's very interesting.
1135
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:48,800
- I feel like that's where that comes from.
1136
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:49,960
- It might.
1137
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,040
- So they're like, you know what they say there are against,
1138
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,400
but they're not.
1139
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,240
- Well, I hope not.
1140
00:40:56,240 --> 00:40:58,920
Like that's a really actually scary thing.
1141
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,160
- It is, but I think that's where that comes from.
1142
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,920
I think that's how the rumor starts.
1143
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,600
'Cause they're like, "Oh, did you see that?"
1144
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:05,840
- Oh, you know what I'm saying?
1145
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,200
- I don't know 'cause this, I don't know what was first,
1146
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,560
the rumors of the website.
1147
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,760
You know, I feel like the website came after.
1148
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,000
- Maybe.
1149
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:14,840
Okay.
1150
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:15,680
Okay.
1151
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,320
- And I'm sure I could go to the website and see the year.
1152
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:19,880
I have a lot more from the website though.
1153
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:20,720
We're gonna.
1154
00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:21,560
- Sluet it.
1155
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,160
- We're gonna get into it.
1156
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,360
Does the websites have the year like at the bottom
1157
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:26,880
of their name?
1158
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,360
- Sometimes that's not like a standard thing anymore.
1159
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,520
- Like 2024.
1160
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,440
So like copyrighted in 2024.
1161
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:33,280
So.
1162
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,200
- Which that would change I think annually.
1163
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,040
- Yeah.
1164
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,800
- I think that just indicates like the most recent.
1165
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:39,920
- Not when it was made.
1166
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:40,760
- Yeah.
1167
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,480
- Well, okay.
1168
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:43,600
So there's more on this site.
1169
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,040
They have a press tab.
1170
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:51,040
And under the press tab is a post titled Community Healing
1171
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,760
that says,
1172
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:58,360
quote, "Oculus and Nubis is a religious non-profit."
1173
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,640
I stumbled over the first and then really fucked up
1174
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:01,480
the second.
1175
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,320
- Yeah, because it feels ridiculous what you're saying.
1176
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,160
- Yeah, I understand.
1177
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,880
- And there's gonna be a lot of reading
1178
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,720
because it's just so ridiculous that I couldn't like
1179
00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:09,800
something like I can't.
1180
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:10,800
- You just like have to hear it.
1181
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,400
- There is no Cliff Notes version.
1182
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:13,920
There are only direct quotes.
1183
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:14,920
It's odd.
1184
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:15,760
- Yeah.
1185
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:16,600
- Okay.
1186
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,040
- Quote, "Oculus and Nubis is a religious non-profit
1187
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,360
that is guided by healing, compassion and inclusivity
1188
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,600
as we embark on our journey to acquire
1189
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,400
the future church property at blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
1190
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,400
in Damascus, Oregon.
1191
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,800
We want to address any misconceptions or concerns
1192
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,320
that may have surfaced due to the history mentioned
1193
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,760
in the blog post on articlecats.com.
1194
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:43,560
Titled,
1195
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,560
"The Myth of Oculus and Nubis
1196
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,480
how do you accuse your neighbor of running a cult?"
1197
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,480
- Oh my God, I'm so excited.
1198
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,800
I feel like this has a very similar vibe
1199
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,120
to Nancy Brophy writing a blog post
1200
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,600
about how to kill your husband and get away with it.
1201
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:01,440
You know?
1202
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,840
Yay, I'm so excited for me.
1203
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:09,280
- So I just thought this was really weird.
1204
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,840
The way that they write about this article,
1205
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,280
which is again titled,
1206
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,480
"The Myth of Oculus and Nubis."
1207
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,280
It sounds like this article created a bunch of these rumors.
1208
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,800
It's what they make it sound like.
1209
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:23,640
- Okay, okay.
1210
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,680
- But I read the article and it debunks
1211
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,320
all of the common rumors and myths
1212
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,480
and like alleged photos of the property.
1213
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,360
That's where I found out that those photos
1214
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,920
that people were like circulating were not from the property.
1215
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,440
- Okay.
1216
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,760
- And it basically says the stories being spread
1217
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,160
about this place are just because it has a unique look
1218
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,720
in the site, like, "Bashe is this article,"
1219
00:43:47,720 --> 00:43:49,560
which is so weird to me.
1220
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,240
- They're like, "We don't need your help."
1221
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:54,960
- It's very odd.
1222
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,840
- I was literally so confused and I feel like
1223
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,120
I just have to like read this to you.
1224
00:43:59,120 --> 00:43:59,960
- Okay.
1225
00:43:59,960 --> 00:44:02,440
- Because I couldn't, I just have to read it.
1226
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,720
- There's no Clif Notes only quotes.
1227
00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:09,840
So they pulled this quote from the Mythbusters article.
1228
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,680
- It's not Mythbusters, but it is.
1229
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:12,680
(laughing)
1230
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:13,520
- The article cat.
1231
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:14,360
- That's the vibe.
1232
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:15,200
- The article.
1233
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,040
- The vibe.
1234
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,040
- So the quote from article cat says,
1235
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,600
"If you do a Google image search on the Temple
1236
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:21,520
of Oculus and Ubisoft,
1237
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,600
you have everything you need to support.
1238
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,480
The initial story is being spread,
1239
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,120
a fancy gate, an Egyptian-esque statue,
1240
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,680
strangely looking domes under a pyramid frame.
1241
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,200
So those were like the fake pictures.
1242
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,040
- Okay.
1243
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,760
- And underground corridors.
1244
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,560
And it's talking about these are all the things
1245
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:37,880
that are rumored.
1246
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:38,720
- Okay.
1247
00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:39,560
- Yeah, yeah.
1248
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:40,400
- And it's like,
1249
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,760
"I'm just going to be a little bit more
1250
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,560
"and I'm just going to be a little bit more
1251
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,240
"and I'm just going to be a little bit more
1252
00:44:47,240 --> 00:44:49,560
"and I'm just going to be a little bit more
1253
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,240
"and I'm just going to be a little bit more
1254
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:53,240
"and I'm just going to be a little bit more
1255
00:44:53,240 --> 00:44:55,240
"and I'm just going to be a little bit more
1256
00:44:55,240 --> 00:44:57,440
"and I'm just going to be a little bit more
1257
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,200
"and I'm just going to be a little bit more
1258
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:00,600
"and I'm just going to be a little bit more
1259
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,600
"and I'm just going to be a little bit more
1260
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,480
"and I'm just going to be a little bit more
1261
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,480
"and I'm just going to be a little bit more
1262
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:07,480
"and I'm just going to be a little bit more
1263
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,400
and that readers are left with
1264
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,840
is that some eccentric private citizens
1265
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,280
have a fancy gate and a religious statue
1266
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:15,760
that connects to their heritage,
1267
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,000
beliefs of four spirituality.
1268
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,160
If the gate were adorned
1269
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,640
with more conventional iconography.
1270
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:22,960
- Yes, of course. - Yes.
1271
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,680
- Would anyone even think twice about it?
1272
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,080
Would websites spread rumors of a cult
1273
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,960
or accuse a family of trafficking then?
1274
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,000
- No.
1275
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,320
- I mean, it's an obvious answer.
1276
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:35,160
- Yeah.
1277
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,600
- Yeah. - This is their response
1278
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,200
on OculusAnubis.com.
1279
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:40,200
- This shut up.
1280
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:41,960
(laughing)
1281
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,240
- This notably incorrect statement
1282
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:47,240
from this frequently retweeted blog post states
1283
00:45:47,240 --> 00:45:49,640
that there are no underground tunnels
1284
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,000
when there are not only permits
1285
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,160
to confirm this existence, which there are.
1286
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,000
You can see them.
1287
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,680
- Okay, so they're like actually,
1288
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:57,600
but you're wrong.
1289
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,200
We have tunnels, okay?
1290
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,760
- But we also have multiple online accounts
1291
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,880
from explorers of said tunnels.
1292
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,280
The people who are making up all of the rumors, right?
1293
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:09,120
- Yeah.
1294
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,040
- What else about this post might be incorrect?
1295
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:16,240
- So are you saying that they should spread the rumors
1296
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:19,600
and accuse the family of cult and trafficking?
1297
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:24,600
- I know, I'm like, okay, so do you want to specify?
1298
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,240
'Cause I feel like that's important at this point.
1299
00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:28,800
- Like it's debunking this thing
1300
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,480
that is trying to debunk the bad.
1301
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:33,480
- Yeah. - Okay.
1302
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,240
- Am I- - And they're not even, no, no, no, no.
1303
00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:37,320
- Miss reading this. - We are evil.
1304
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,040
- Like that's what it sounds like it's trying to say.
1305
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,040
(laughing)
1306
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:43,960
- Okay.
1307
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,920
- And I don't think that they were even debunking
1308
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,680
like the tunnels, they were just saying the tunnels aren't,
1309
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,800
like the rumors about the tunnels are wrong.
1310
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:56,040
I don't think they were ever saying like there's no tunnel,
1311
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:56,880
either.
1312
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,960
So I just like, I thought it was really odd.
1313
00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:02,200
A couple of things that I had quoted from the website
1314
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,480
in the beginning were like, we want to acquire this property.
1315
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,080
- Yeah. - Meaning?
1316
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:13,480
Whoever's running this website does not own this property.
1317
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:14,480
- Allegedly.
1318
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,480
- Allegedly, but you can Google who owns a property
1319
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:19,680
and it's not- - It's not.
1320
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,040
- It's not the same person that runs this website at all.
1321
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,080
- How can we be sure?
1322
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:28,600
I mean, I guess it could be like a deep fake, but-
1323
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,320
- I don't know. - They don't have any questions.
1324
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,360
- The people who live there,
1325
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,160
they don't want people coming on.
1326
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,680
They chase them away, they don't want them there.
1327
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,280
So I don't think that they have anything to do
1328
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:39,440
with the website.
1329
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,080
I don't think they want this kind of attention.
1330
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:43,960
- Because they're private.
1331
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,360
Well, we'll go into it.
1332
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:46,480
- Okay. - Who lives there?
1333
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,800
I guess we haven't really gotten there yet, but.
1334
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,800
Yeah.
1335
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,360
It was just supposed to be like a family's property.
1336
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:54,200
Like it's not-
1337
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,880
- Okay, so this is not a religious organization.
1338
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,440
- Yeah, it doesn't appear to be some sort of shadow
1339
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,000
organization or LLC based in the Caymans.
1340
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,280
- I mean, not this one.
1341
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,120
- Okay.
1342
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:10,200
- So also under the press tab on this website,
1343
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,520
they kind of do bash the current residents
1344
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,800
and they try to kind of expose some fraud
1345
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,440
that they do have evidence of
1346
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,160
and they do link to the stories.
1347
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:21,520
I'm not really gonna get into it
1348
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,720
'cause there's other stuff I need to get into.
1349
00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:24,560
- Shit.
1350
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,920
- And that is someone who still lives on the property.
1351
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,080
So you're like, I don't know.
1352
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,240
I don't wanna go into all her shit.
1353
00:48:31,240 --> 00:48:32,880
- Yeah. - If you're curious.
1354
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,080
- You can find it.
1355
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,400
- And I will.
1356
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,840
- But yeah, so the fraud is definitely a theme
1357
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,600
which we're gonna get to very shortly.
1358
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,200
But there's clearly a dispute over the land.
1359
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:50,240
Like, seems to be this one person thinks that they want it.
1360
00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:52,160
There's other people actually living on it.
1361
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,760
They're like, but we own it.
1362
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:54,600
- Right.
1363
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:55,440
- Yeah, so.
1364
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:56,440
- Wow.
1365
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,440
- It gets messy.
1366
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,440
So the gossip and myths might turn out to be false
1367
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:07,560
but there is some very true crimes surrounding the property.
1368
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:08,800
And I'm not gonna use their names.
1369
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,760
I don't know if this is like a pussy move,
1370
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,320
like not using these people's names.
1371
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:14,320
- Not necessarily.
1372
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,160
- But I feel like it was, it's not like murder.
1373
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:17,720
So I don't know.
1374
00:49:17,720 --> 00:49:22,560
- I mean, and it depends on how pertinent their crimes are.
1375
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,040
- You know, I feel like you have to just use your best
1376
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:25,880
judgment.
1377
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,200
- And the family still is on the property.
1378
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,040
So I'm like, I don't know.
1379
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,840
- You can easily find it if you want to,
1380
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,480
but I just like, I don't need to.
1381
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,440
- I do think there is something to be said for like,
1382
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,440
this is publicly available.
1383
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,000
If you want that information,
1384
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,400
I'm gonna make you work for it.
1385
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:39,680
I feel like that's fair.
1386
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:40,920
- Visit the paceman.
1387
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:41,840
- Yeah.
1388
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,040
- Or Google, just Google,
1389
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:43,880
share yourself with the pop.
1390
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,080
- Or visit the paceman.
1391
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,040
(laughing)
1392
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:51,440
- This is a story from the Oregonian published in 2017.
1393
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:52,920
- Ooh.
1394
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,040
- There was a 41 year old man sentenced to one year
1395
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:02,040
and one day in prison in order to pay 2.5 million in restitution
1396
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:09,320
for scamming health insurance and the internal revenue service.
1397
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:10,160
- I mean, honestly.
1398
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:11,320
- A K, the IRS.
1399
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,600
- Yeah, not a smart move in terms of the IRS,
1400
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:15,800
but like, you know.
1401
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,000
- Don't do that, man.
1402
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,720
- Health insurance companies, like probably not a smart idea,
1403
00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:21,440
but fuck 'em.
1404
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:22,280
- Fuck 'em.
1405
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:23,120
- Right.
1406
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:24,120
I mean, at this point.
1407
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,600
- Yeah. - And this is back.
1408
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,320
- No, pretty much always, the vibe is fucking.
1409
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,000
- But still, like, you're gonna get in trouble
1410
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,160
if you do that, right?
1411
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,440
- It's a catch you.
1412
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:35,280
- Yeah.
1413
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,360
- Yeah. - It sounds like they caught them
1414
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:37,960
because this man was sentenced.
1415
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,600
- He done did get caught.
1416
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:44,080
- He claims he was, quote, "acting as a servant
1417
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:48,400
for his manipulative monstrous and distorted father."
1418
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:49,200
- End quote.
1419
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,840
- Okay, I assume we were gonna say wife.
1420
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:52,680
- No. - Okay.
1421
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:53,680
- Father.
1422
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:54,520
- Great.
1423
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:59,320
- At their eye care clinic in Russia.
1424
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:00,720
- Fuck up.
1425
00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:01,880
- Eyes.
1426
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:03,040
- Oculus.
1427
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:04,520
It all makes sense.
1428
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:11,800
- In 2015, the optimologist who I'll be referring to
1429
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,400
was Papa Oculus.
1430
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,520
He died at 80 before being charged with the crimes.
1431
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,720
- Oh.
1432
00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:20,880
- But they sure charged his son.
1433
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:21,720
- Oh shit.
1434
00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:22,560
- Okay, that's right.
1435
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:23,400
- Literally, yeah.
1436
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:24,240
- He got time.
1437
00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:27,840
He was ordered to pay the $2.5 million.
1438
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,360
That is a bummer.
1439
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:35,080
Although there were claims of abuse to his son and wife
1440
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,600
at the hands of Papa Oculus,
1441
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,640
the family used the Ilgotton money from the shell company
1442
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:46,640
called Oculus Inc. to live off of and start to build
1443
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,880
a 35,000 square foot house.
1444
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,360
- Wow. - 35,000 square foot house.
1445
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,400
- That's a million house.
1446
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:56,400
- That's a compound.
1447
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,960
A mansion is arguably like 10,000 square feet.
1448
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:01,600
That's a fucking compound.
1449
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:06,480
- Which kind of now this also fed into some of the rumors.
1450
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:07,800
- Coltie.
1451
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:12,320
- With its very own hella pad, of course.
1452
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,160
- I'm also giving Coltie vibe.
1453
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:16,560
- Not gonna lie.
1454
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,320
- And was to be connected to another home on the property
1455
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,080
by way of heated tunnel.
1456
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,680
- So the tunnels are true.
1457
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:24,760
- Yeah. - Still,
1458
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,680
I don't know if they actually have been built.
1459
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,120
We just can see the permits.
1460
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,320
- We know the permits. - Yeah, exist.
1461
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:31,280
- Yeah. - That's fair.
1462
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,520
'Cause actually the construction,
1463
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,000
that's a lengthy process.
1464
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:35,920
- Right. - Yeah.
1465
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,760
- And as far as I know,
1466
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,760
the house was never finished.
1467
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:40,760
- Jesus Christ.
1468
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:41,600
- Okay.
1469
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:42,840
- So people are talking about tunnels
1470
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,480
that more than likely,
1471
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,280
- Unless they built the tunnels first before the house.
1472
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,360
- Well, you know, I'd be actually,
1473
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:55,040
from like a seismology standpoint,
1474
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:59,400
it might seismological seismologically.
1475
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:04,400
It might make more sense to do the tunnels first.
1476
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,480
- Maybe. - I doubt that's what they did.
1477
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,000
And they probably don't have tunnels running
1478
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,400
like under the complete footprint of the house
1479
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,080
and depending on how deep they go
1480
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:20,080
and I'm not a geologist or an architect or an engineer.
1481
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:21,360
- Do you know something?
1482
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:22,200
- Yeah.
1483
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:23,760
- But, you know, I don't know.
1484
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,360
There's arguments that we could make.
1485
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,040
- Yeah, that is an interesting thought.
1486
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,920
I kinda hadn't really thought about that.
1487
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:34,000
But I just air dropped you the Google image photo
1488
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,280
and you can see the unfinished.
1489
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,000
You could basically just see like the foundation
1490
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,720
of the house and like beams, like exposed beams.
1491
00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:44,720
- Okay. - Like it's unfinished.
1492
00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:47,440
- I mean, knowing what I know,
1493
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:48,920
I can tell that that's what that is.
1494
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,040
- Yeah, without even zooming in because it's kind of big.
1495
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:56,160
- It is quite sizable and that's that very,
1496
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,800
I know what Rebar looks like.
1497
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,280
- Right, I don't like that.
1498
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,480
- But I know what that looks like.
1499
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,880
So, I was trying to see if it would give like a date
1500
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,040
on the when the map was taken.
1501
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,480
- It probably doesn't on your screenshot,
1502
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,320
but Google image typically does.
1503
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,880
- Okay, Kylan web sleuthed around
1504
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:21,880
and we think she thinks that the Google images are current.
1505
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,400
So, we don't think the house has been built ever.
1506
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,760
Still exposed, probably getting very damaged.
1507
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,880
- Yeah, Rebar, I'm surprised that it says.
1508
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,680
- Yeah, I was gonna say, I'm surprised that it looks like
1509
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:39,360
some, like the color of cement, essentially,
1510
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,800
'cause they were at some stage of the foundation.
1511
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,560
- Yeah, I wonder what it looks like close up.
1512
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:45,720
- Yeah. - Ooh.
1513
00:54:45,720 --> 00:54:50,720
- So, we're gonna go on and keep talking about this family
1514
00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:54,200
who was involved in this fraud.
1515
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,320
- Oh, right, there were people.
1516
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,640
- They were just talking about Rebar.
1517
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,040
- Yeah. - Okay.
1518
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,120
- Wow.
1519
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:06,120
- So, the son who I referred to here as Spawn Evoculus,
1520
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:11,120
Spawn of Papa Oculus, his defense was that Papa O
1521
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,840
was a lot different behind closed doors.
1522
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,680
And then what the community saw of him, and knew of him.
1523
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,640
So, - He was in disbainting.
1524
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,320
- I really don't wanna know.
1525
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,040
- Oh no, I said it and then I was like, I regret this.
1526
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,200
- 'Cause I called him Papa.
1527
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:29,040
- Yeah.
1528
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,360
- But there was like, yeah, allegations of abuse
1529
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,720
to the son and wife and I don't, he was dead.
1530
00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:37,680
So, it's like he can defend himself.
1531
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,760
I really don't know what's true and what's not.
1532
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,000
This is from the son's perspective.
1533
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:47,840
- He also apologized in court and claimed that
1534
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,720
because of his traumatic upbringing
1535
00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:52,120
and his autism spectrum disorder,
1536
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:56,120
that he didn't understand what he was doing was wrong
1537
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,120
until his team of lawyers helped him understand.
1538
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:00,920
- Wow, that's really interesting.
1539
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:05,000
A lot of people trying to use an autism spectrum disorder
1540
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,960
to defend their behavior of late.
1541
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:08,800
- Yeah.
1542
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,200
- And I mean, the judge obviously disagreed
1543
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,880
'cause he did plea guilty as well.
1544
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:14,720
- Okay.
1545
00:56:14,720 --> 00:56:15,560
- He was like, yeah, I'm guilty,
1546
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,360
but so he wasn't really trying to get out of it.
1547
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,600
He was just, here's sort of an explanation,
1548
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,640
which I don't know if you're,
1549
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,720
if maybe really traumatized.
1550
00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:27,480
You work for your dad who traumatized you
1551
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,280
and I'm not saying that like, because you're autistic,
1552
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,440
you don't know like right from wrong.
1553
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,040
I really don't know that side of it,
1554
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,760
but I could see how you would just be like,
1555
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,640
do you just do whatever he says?
1556
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:39,480
- Yeah.
1557
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:40,720
- You know, I don't know.
1558
00:56:40,720 --> 00:56:45,720
My understanding of autism spectrum disorders
1559
00:56:45,720 --> 00:56:51,680
is that you have a very defined sense of justice.
1560
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:56,320
- Right, that's kind of what I thought.
1561
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,000
- So, but like who makes the rules?
1562
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,160
Who knows rules are you trained to follow?
1563
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:07,160
You know, that trauma or abuse, alleged or you know,
1564
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:12,640
maybe that changes your perception of what,
1565
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,040
what that looks like with justice.
1566
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,560
- Looks like.
1567
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,600
- He did also ask for help in like his future,
1568
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,040
like career endeavors, like help and guidance.
1569
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,840
So I don't, so maybe there's some good side
1570
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,040
of how good he's doing better.
1571
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:28,880
- Okay.
1572
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:29,720
- You know, I really don't know.
1573
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,720
I didn't look into what he's doing now or where he's at
1574
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,840
because it wasn't where he's at is not involved,
1575
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,880
but we do know some other things about
1576
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,280
some of the other family members.
1577
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:42,600
- I'm so excited.
1578
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:47,240
- So the actual current owner, when you Google the property,
1579
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:52,240
is the son's spawn of Oculus, it's his wife or ex-wife.
1580
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,720
I'm not really sure I didn't really dig down that path
1581
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,240
to see if they actually got divorced
1582
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,960
'cause I feel like that's probably in the records,
1583
00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:02,560
but I don't know where to look at things.
1584
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,040
- I'm sure some sort of court filing
1585
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,360
that can confirm that in that case.
1586
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,280
- Yeah, but I feel like I didn't need to go do that.
1587
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:11,120
- We don't care.
1588
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:12,720
- She still has his last name.
1589
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:13,560
- Yeah.
1590
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,280
- I mean, like, who knows?
1591
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:17,120
- Yeah.
1592
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:18,120
- People keep their name, people don't.
1593
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:19,120
- Yep.
1594
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,600
- There has also been some dispute between her
1595
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,880
and Papa O's wife.
1596
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,320
- Ooooo.
1597
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:32,320
- So the wife of, or the mom of mother-in-law, sorry,
1598
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:33,480
that's not interesting.
1599
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,000
- I was getting, well, like what is this?
1600
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,200
- So the thing that this reminds me of
1601
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,320
is do you remember that movie that JLo did
1602
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,840
where it's monster and love?
1603
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,560
- Well, it might be the reverse.
1604
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:49,240
Yeah, so apparently from what all,
1605
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,600
there's a ton of YouTube videos and stuff on the property.
1606
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,520
There's actually some people who went on the property
1607
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:59,520
to move the lion statues for the mom, mama-oh,
1608
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,280
we'll just call her mama-oh, 'cause I'm not using names.
1609
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:03,120
- Yeah.
1610
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:08,120
- And they actually got chased off by the daughter-in-law.
1611
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,560
So they, from what everyone says,
1612
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,280
they think there's kind of a dispute about the land.
1613
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,240
So the daughter-in-law actually owns it,
1614
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,600
but the mama-oh lives there.
1615
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:24,080
And I think they're like fighting over the land.
1616
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,840
- That's very interesting.
1617
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,640
- And there's like, I couldn't find records
1618
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,120
of like who actually lives on the property, you know?
1619
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:32,920
- Oh, we could find that.
1620
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:33,760
- Probably can't.
1621
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,840
- But I don't know if she officially,
1622
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,200
she doesn't own the property.
1623
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,120
So I don't know if she officially lives there.
1624
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,840
Some of those things can be a little bit murky.
1625
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:42,680
- Yeah.
1626
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,560
- Which I was like, I've gone down so many robberholes.
1627
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:46,480
Like I feel like we just,
1628
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,280
we don't need to know who's on the property,
1629
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,280
just that there is people living there.
1630
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:51,440
I feel like, so.
1631
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:52,280
- Okay.
1632
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:53,840
- Yeah, it seems that's fair to say.
1633
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:54,680
- Yeah, okay.
1634
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,240
- And then potentially so this like third other person
1635
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:58,920
with their religious organization.
1636
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:00,480
So there's like potentially three people
1637
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,040
like fighting over this land.
1638
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,080
- Yeah, they're wow.
1639
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:05,200
Like a triangle.
1640
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,040
- Yes.
1641
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:06,880
- A pyramid.
1642
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:07,720
- Oh.
1643
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:13,760
- I also did find out that Mama O is of Egyptian descent.
1644
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:14,600
So.
1645
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,480
- Okay, so that makes it a lot less weird than--
1646
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,040
- When you find that out, it's like of course they're gonna,
1647
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,560
if they have all this money, they're gonna--
1648
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:26,640
- It's like a celebration of her culture and heritage.
1649
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:27,480
- Yeah.
1650
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,040
- So everybody else is just dexed.
1651
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:31,320
- Exactly.
1652
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,760
- I know, when I found that, I was like, well, duh.
1653
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,840
Like obviously there is a blog post or article
1654
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,480
that kind of did like a ton of internet digging
1655
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,040
and figured out who was running the Oculus
1656
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,200
the Nubis website, the church website.
1657
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:46,680
- Okay, I so wondered.
1658
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:50,440
- She, I mean, she doesn't look Egyptian to me.
1659
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:51,440
I mean, I don't know.
1660
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,280
But I'm like, who are these other people
1661
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,640
who are trying to like run this religion?
1662
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,800
That's like not your, it's not your,
1663
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,400
like you're stealing this religion.
1664
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:02,640
- That is so interesting.
1665
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:04,240
- And like, creating, I don't know.
1666
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,040
I feel like they're kind of making it their,
1667
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,360
I don't know, they don't say what their religion is.
1668
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:10,680
- Like appropriating?
1669
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,520
- Yes, sounds like to me.
1670
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,680
Anyway, I thought that was pretty interesting.
1671
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:20,560
But some white girls coming in and trying to take this property
1672
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:25,480
from an Egyptian woman who decorated it with her own
1673
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,160
ancestral art.
1674
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,320
- Wow, wow.
1675
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:30,160
It's just gross.
1676
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:31,440
- You know how people suck?
1677
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:32,280
- Yeah.
1678
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:33,120
- Yeah.
1679
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:34,120
- Yeah.
1680
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:35,960
- There's also a donate tab on that site.
1681
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:37,800
Just like I would say not to donate.
1682
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:39,040
- Probably not.
1683
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:40,160
- I'm gonna not.
1684
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,720
- Unless you're very sure what something is about
1685
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,520
and what they're doing with the money.
1686
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,000
And yeah, I don't know.
1687
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:48,800
Like they're taking, are they taking donations
1688
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,120
to be able to buy the property?
1689
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,800
Like God, I just like, is it for sale?
1690
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:53,800
(laughing)
1691
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:54,640
- No, I know.
1692
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,480
- Like there's one more thing.
1693
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:57,320
- Okay.
1694
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:01,480
- I don't know who started calling it Oculus Anubis.
1695
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,760
Like I feel like people, I don't know if the owners,
1696
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,240
if that family who lived there,
1697
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,440
if that's what they called their property.
1698
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,440
But I kind of just feel like people saw
1699
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:15,440
like the Oculus name from the shell company,
1700
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,760
the Oculus Inc.
1701
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,720
And then like there's so many statues,
1702
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,800
like Egyptian statues and people were like,
1703
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,560
confusing that one big statue in the front for an Ubis.
1704
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,680
Like did they just make up this name?
1705
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,600
- See to me that reads as, especially knowing,
1706
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:37,600
like I'm just not as familiar with some of that iconography
1707
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:41,960
and I was like, oh, I'm so excited.
1708
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:43,400
- Really, you know.
1709
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:48,600
I think that seems totally plausible.
1710
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:52,280
I feel like this is not even of their own making.
1711
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,280
I feel like this is like a third party
1712
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,560
that's just like Oculus Anubis, OVs.
1713
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:01,240
- And then some other lady just made a church out of it.
1714
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:02,640
- It's odd.
1715
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,720
And I did kind of like look through all,
1716
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:06,640
'cause I found that where Oculus came from
1717
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:07,480
and I was like, oh, cool.
1718
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,200
And I was like expecting them to say
1719
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,120
like that's what they called their property.
1720
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,960
And I didn't find anything like that.
1721
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:14,800
- To confirm that.
1722
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,640
- Yeah, no confirmations on where the Anubis part
1723
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,120
of the name actually came from.
1724
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,000
Or if people were just like evil, death, God,
1725
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:25,360
Oculus Anubis.
1726
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,080
It's also interesting too because like,
1727
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:32,600
there's like the eye of raw and the eye of some other guy,
1728
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,440
it starts with an H, I can't remember what it is.
1729
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:35,600
Horace or something.
1730
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,200
- Horace, so I'm like, why wouldn't they pick one of those?
1731
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:42,280
'Cause it's like the eye, but they made it eye of Anubis.
1732
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:43,680
- Yeah. - It's like, isn't really a thing.
1733
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:44,520
I don't know.
1734
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:45,360
It's interesting.
1735
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:46,360
- Like interesting.
1736
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:49,240
It seems like someone who doesn't know a lot about Egypt.
1737
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:50,080
- Right.
1738
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:50,920
- Just making up shit.
1739
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:52,280
- First one they thought it.
1740
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,040
And they mashed it together.
1741
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:54,880
- Exactly.
1742
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,880
- And they probably have all of the best words.
1743
01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,240
- Kind of moral the story is.
1744
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:03,280
- Though there might be some actual juicy stuff here.
1745
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,640
Some real true juicy stuff along with them,
1746
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,560
all the made up juicy stuff.
1747
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,560
But that still doesn't mean you have the right
1748
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,800
to be disrespectful to the property.
1749
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:15,720
Just because someone associated who used to live there
1750
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:17,160
got convicted of a crime,
1751
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,600
like doesn't give you the right to go in.
1752
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:24,320
Gawk at it or be noisy and disrespectful
1753
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:25,920
to everyone and all the other neighbors.
1754
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:27,840
So, yeah, I don't know.
1755
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,880
Honestly, if you look into it, probably that's the case
1756
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:34,480
with a lot more properties than people realize.
1757
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:35,480
- Yeah.
1758
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:36,480
So.
1759
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,320
- Reminds me too of the hell house.
1760
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:42,560
Like this house that just happened to have terrible things
1761
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:43,560
happen in it.
1762
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,960
And then people just like going crazy over it.
1763
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:48,880
Well, the address thing also didn't help.
1764
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:53,000
But like the numbers, but that was, yeah.
1765
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:53,920
Yeah.
1766
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,720
No, it's interesting because I feel like now
1767
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,720
where we were just talking about this off my egg
1768
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:03,440
before we started recording that we're getting close
1769
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,680
to 200 episodes.
1770
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:09,960
And I feel like now there are so many times
1771
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,800
where as we're talking about it,
1772
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,360
whatever that episode is about, whatever the topic is
1773
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,480
that it's like you see so many parallels
1774
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:24,200
to other things that we've covered in an episode.
1775
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,280
And at a certain point, I'm like, okay,
1776
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,120
well, like how many of our past episodes
1777
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,600
can we talk about and it feels a little
1778
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,400
almost self-indulgent?
1779
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,880
But I'm like, no, it's just so interesting to see where
1780
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:40,800
I don't know, it kind of takes me back like,
1781
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:45,480
what is the, it's sort of like those who don't
1782
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:50,800
understand or learn history are doomed to repeat it?
1783
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:54,360
And it's sort of just like, you see these same principles
1784
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:59,360
come up time and time again in like certain we do.
1785
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:04,000
Yeah, we do that with like all the episodes I feel like
1786
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:05,680
this reminds us of that.
1787
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,280
And it's like really impressive that we can actually recall
1788
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,840
what we've done in the past 200 episodes.
1789
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:11,560
Yeah.
1790
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:15,720
No, I feel like it doesn't say anything spectacular
1791
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,760
about my memory per se.
1792
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,360
I think it's more about the pattern, recognition.
1793
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:21,360
Yeah.
1794
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,280
That's memory accounts.
1795
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,080
Kind of, yeah, you know, whatever.
1796
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:29,640
Well, I just want to leave you with one comment,
1797
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:33,600
one part of a comment that was on one of these YouTube videos
1798
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,840
that I found about the property.
1799
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:39,120
All right, this person's comment says, quote,
1800
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:42,800
"This is a great lesson in the damaging ripple effect
1801
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,720
of gossip and rumors."
1802
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,760
That property is gorgeous.
1803
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:51,720
Ex-entrissities doesn't equal devil worship or cults.
1804
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:52,560
Holy shit.
1805
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:53,400
My job.
1806
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:54,240
Okay.
1807
01:06:54,240 --> 01:07:01,240
So this is really crazy, but the damaging impact of rumors,
1808
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,360
holy fucking shit.
1809
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,920
Is that a theme and like something you're talking about?
1810
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,240
Literally the episode that I'm doing next.
1811
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,040
Oh my gosh.
1812
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:14,280
It is a huge.
1813
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:16,120
It's huge.
1814
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:16,920
Huge.
1815
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:17,720
Huge.
1816
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:21,600
But huge component of my next episode.
1817
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:22,600
Interesting.
1818
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:22,920
Wow.
1819
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:24,920
We were just picking up all the vibes.
1820
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:26,080
Me always do.
1821
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,400
I know it's so bizarre because I've had this case earmarked
1822
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,560
for a long time and I feel like we both,
1823
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,120
it sounds like both of these topics,
1824
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,120
we've been like, oh, I'm going to cover this.
1825
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:37,720
Yeah.
1826
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:41,760
And now here we are covering them kind of, you know,
1827
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,840
for our intense and purposes.
1828
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,720
As far as release, they're not going to be exactly
1829
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,520
back to back per se, but still.
1830
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,160
It's like, that's cool.
1831
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:52,360
Whoa.
1832
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:53,360
I don't know if they will be.
1833
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,920
Actually, I, maybe I take that back.
1834
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:57,720
This is the next one we're going to record from you.
1835
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:58,240
Yes.
1836
01:07:58,240 --> 01:07:59,640
And yes, they will be back to back.
1837
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,200
So sometimes I lie that it's always on accident.
1838
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:03,960
Unless it's on purpose.
1839
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,960
Yes.
1840
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:08,400
Unless it's on purpose.
1841
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,480
I was really going to say unless plans change,
1842
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,280
but then that just felt too perfect to say
1843
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,280
after he said that.
1844
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:16,800
All right.
1845
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,520
Well, let's do some tarot for this bitch.
1846
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:20,200
I think we should.
1847
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:32,440
Oh, you lost all of those.
1848
01:08:32,440 --> 01:08:40,000
Oh, hello, the high priestess.
1849
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,160
OK, I spread out the cards.
1850
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:46,800
We were thinking Egyptian thoughts.
1851
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:51,920
And I pulled the high priestess, which is number two,
1852
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:57,200
the major arcana, number two like poo poo.
1853
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:03,680
Like you do, like two lions at your gates.
1854
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:04,880
Big kids.
1855
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:05,760
It's interesting too.
1856
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:07,760
We did get like the high priestess.
1857
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:11,720
Well, I want to look at the I want them.
1858
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:13,480
God, I can't fucking dog.
1859
01:09:13,480 --> 01:09:14,480
Fucking sad.
1860
01:09:14,480 --> 01:09:16,880
I hope they describe the traditional card.
1861
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:21,200
Because I feel like there's some Egyptian imagery on some of the cards.
1862
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:26,080
And I feel like this might be one of them, but I can't quite remember.
1863
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:29,720
I'm not sure that this one does, but OK, either way,
1864
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,400
we talked about like a powerful woman.
1865
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,000
So that's interesting.
1866
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,000
Yeah.
1867
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:37,320
She does kind of have a Cleo vibe here.
1868
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:38,760
Oh, OK.
1869
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,440
Yeah.
1870
01:09:40,440 --> 01:09:41,720
OK.
1871
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:50,600
Our keywords are intuition, emotions, feminine power, imagination, spirituality.
1872
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:51,760
OK, perfect.
1873
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,360
The inner life.
1874
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:59,120
The inner life, that's kind of just like so interesting.
1875
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:04,160
Because they're like secretive and like introverts.
1876
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:05,000
Yeah.
1877
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,760
So introverted that they might have tunnels.
1878
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,080
Yeah.
1879
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:10,480
Oh.
1880
01:10:10,480 --> 01:10:14,160
And what's inside those tunnels?
1881
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:15,560
Don't know.
1882
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:17,600
That's cool.
1883
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:23,800
This beautiful and enigmatic card symbolizes feminine spiritual power,
1884
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:28,640
or the goddess from whom all life comes and to whom it all returns.
1885
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:30,000
That's that duality.
1886
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,760
Oh, yeah.
1887
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:36,040
Some deck show her as a serene female figure,
1888
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:41,320
seated with a book or scroll on her lap to indicate wisdom.
1889
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:44,320
Other decks depict her gazing into the distance
1890
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,720
at something yet to be revealed.
1891
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:47,880
Ooh.
1892
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:49,920
What's going to be revealed?
1893
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:51,120
Don't know.
1894
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,360
It reminds me too of like at the gate gazing
1895
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,920
into the distance at the Statue of Segment.
1896
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:57,160
Bro.
1897
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:58,720
Bro.
1898
01:10:58,720 --> 01:10:59,320
Bro.
1899
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,320
Bro.
1900
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:08,160
She's sometimes positioned between two pillars, one black, one white.
1901
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:09,200
OK.
1902
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,520
I'm just saying the pillars, it's really interesting.
1903
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:12,760
And then it--
1904
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:13,920
Oh, it keeps going.
1905
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,120
It is interesting because there are photos
1906
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,960
supposedly of the house where there's like pillars.
1907
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:20,320
And it looks like a base.
1908
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,200
I'm saying even at the gate.
1909
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:22,720
Right.
1910
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:23,560
It's it.
1911
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,440
It's it.
1912
01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:29,880
It's maybe not pillars in the most traditional sense.
1913
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:33,240
I'm just-- the iconography matches up for me.
1914
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:34,440
But there are pillars.
1915
01:11:34,440 --> 01:11:35,280
There are pillars.
1916
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,840
I don't know if I have that photo or not.
1917
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:40,200
Keep reading.
1918
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:41,400
Shut the fuck up.
1919
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:42,360
OK.
1920
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:45,000
So two pillars, one black, one white,
1921
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:49,320
which represent the dual nature of existence, good and evil,
1922
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:54,040
light and dark, truth and deception, positive and negative.
1923
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:54,440
Wow.
1924
01:11:54,440 --> 01:11:56,520
We talked so much about that.
1925
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:58,240
We did.
1926
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,720
Interesting like the black coloring came up too.
1927
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,240
And that's like one of the things, hey.
1928
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:04,720
I talked about too.
1929
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:06,920
This is interesting.
1930
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:07,720
Extra.
1931
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:08,320
Extra.
1932
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:09,240
Sorry, I clicked on--
1933
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:09,880
No, you're good.
1934
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:13,040
I clicked on a picture of the gate when it was like all pretty.
1935
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:13,840
Let me see.
1936
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:15,200
I have to send this to you.
1937
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:16,880
OK.
1938
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:18,600
OK, I'm going to read the extra excerpt.
1939
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:19,560
OK.
1940
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,720
We all come from the goddess.
1941
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:26,440
And to her, we shall return like a drop of rain flowing
1942
01:12:26,440 --> 01:12:29,040
to the ocean.
1943
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,840
Because I just feel like this had so much
1944
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:37,520
to do with iconography related to life and death.
1945
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:38,520
Definitely, though.
1946
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,760
I don't know.
1947
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:42,720
The gate doesn't look as black here
1948
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:44,800
as it does in some of the other photos.
1949
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:45,000
But--
1950
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:46,120
Yeah, that's interesting.
1951
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,120
But that does kind of look like pillars.
1952
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:48,640
Yeah.
1953
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,680
And I forgot there was the two torches
1954
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:53,360
on the side too, and they're lit in this photo.
1955
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:54,680
Wow.
1956
01:12:54,680 --> 01:13:00,240
And the road is lined with pink flowers.
1957
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:01,880
They're almost red.
1958
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:03,560
And the statue--
1959
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:06,000
I didn't really mention the statue is white.
1960
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:06,840
Yeah.
1961
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:07,360
Like white.
1962
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:08,800
So we have that black and white.
1963
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,360
Very interesting.
1964
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,880
Black, white, and gold.
1965
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:13,680
OK.
1966
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:16,680
So we did draw this upright, correct?
1967
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:17,680
OK.
1968
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,520
The high priestess may advise paying attention
1969
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:24,160
to your inner world, dreams, imagination,
1970
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,960
and intuition, especially if you
1971
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:31,080
tend to be a logical, practical person.
1972
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:34,800
Look more deeply at your hidden talents and motivations,
1973
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:39,120
face your shadow, and reconcile your inner life
1974
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:40,840
with your outer one.
1975
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,680
But reminds me of the sun, kind of, immediately.
1976
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,480
Yeah.
1977
01:13:46,480 --> 01:13:50,120
Upright, the high priestess suggests inner changes
1978
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:53,760
are taking place even if they haven't materialized yet.
1979
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:57,680
Something hidden is about to come for it.
1980
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:00,960
Oh, that freaked me out a little bit.
1981
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:03,320
I wonder--
1982
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,960
Like, I want something to come out about the property,
1983
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:07,320
but I wanted to feel good.
1984
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:11,200
Like, I want them to finish it and make it pretty not
1985
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,600
the religious way, not like what that person wants to do it.
1986
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:14,800
But--
1987
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:16,560
Yeah, I feel like I'm not feeling that.
1988
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:20,360
I feel like they could just do tours and stuff, you know?
1989
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:20,960
Yeah.
1990
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:22,480
Yeah, I don't know.
1991
01:14:22,480 --> 01:14:25,200
But I mean, that's such a massive property and bill.
1992
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:25,600
It is.
1993
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,960
It would take a lot of money to do so.
1994
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:30,680
I mean, one would imagine--
1995
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,320
I'd just start charging people to tour.
1996
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:35,520
All freaking give you 20 bucks to come take a tour of the land.
1997
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:37,480
Right?
1998
01:14:37,480 --> 01:14:39,760
20 bucks.
1999
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:41,160
This is interesting.
2000
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,440
OK, so there's another extra excerpt
2001
01:14:43,440 --> 01:14:47,440
before our bulleted interpretations.
2002
01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:50,760
The shadow, psychologist Carl G. Young,
2003
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:54,040
but the high priestess symbolized the shadow,
2004
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:58,120
the unknown, secret, dark, and mysterious part
2005
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:01,000
that lies within each of us.
2006
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,960
Pretty sure you used all of those words describing this play.
2007
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:05,200
Yeah, I think so.
2008
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,560
But also, like, the secrets of the doctor
2009
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,080
who is doing all the fraud, the ophthalmologist,
2010
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:14,080
and maybe possibly abusing his family behind closed doors.
2011
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:14,840
Yeah.
2012
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:16,840
That's really reminiscent of that, too.
2013
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,080
There's a lot-- I feel like there's a lot of ways
2014
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:20,400
you can kind of tie that.
2015
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:22,360
This next part will be fucking shit.
2016
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:24,120
OK.
2017
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:26,040
In a reading about money, you may be
2018
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:32,240
too otherworldly or impractical in financial areas.
2019
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:37,120
Perhaps you need to get a handle on spending.
2020
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:40,440
Yeah, you try to spend $3 million building
2021
01:15:40,440 --> 01:15:44,680
stolen money, building a giant mansion.
2022
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:45,560
Yeah, I don't know.
2023
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,000
Maybe this card's for you.
2024
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,760
The high priestess can also advise listening
2025
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:56,720
to your intuition in an issue involving money.
2026
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:58,640
If the reading is about your job,
2027
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:02,640
this card recommends tuning into the invisible world, which
2028
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:05,040
is really interesting when we're talking about someone
2029
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:11,840
who has an occupation specifically related to the visible.
2030
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:13,960
Yeah.
2031
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:17,200
And taking advantage of your inner knowing
2032
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:21,560
and the spiritual guidance available to you,
2033
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:23,600
I'm getting such cool TV vibes.
2034
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:26,600
Yeah, I kind of am, too, which totally fits.
2035
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:30,840
Not that they have a cult, but there's cult themes, you know?
2036
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,800
I mean, it's tied to it, whether that's intentional
2037
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,720
on the part of the owner or anyone who's actually
2038
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:38,680
affiliated with the property or not.
2039
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:40,720
Yeah, it's like forever going to be--
2040
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,880
It's like kind of tainted in a way.
2041
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:45,200
OK.
2042
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:47,400
It can also mean working in a field that
2043
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:51,400
uses your inner power, intuition, and wisdom,
2044
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:56,640
such as psychology, holistic healing, or a spiritual path.
2045
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:57,760
OK.
2046
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,760
I really-- this kind of triggered in me,
2047
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:08,840
I would like to know, as an MD, I would think your license,
2048
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:09,880
probably--
2049
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:15,120
there's a fair chance it might be suspended.
2050
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:18,320
Based on some of these bad acts.
2051
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:21,840
And I wonder for someone in his position,
2052
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:24,680
different kind of doctor, not a traditional MD,
2053
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:27,600
but is he still licensed?
2054
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:29,400
Well, he's dead.
2055
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:30,720
No, I mean the son.
2056
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:31,480
Oh, the son?
2057
01:17:31,480 --> 01:17:33,880
I'm not sure he was actually a doctor.
2058
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,520
I think he just worked there.
2059
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:39,400
I think he worked there, but it may have been in a different capacity.
2060
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,960
Yeah, I think he like did paper work, like probably filed
2061
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,440
all of the insurance claims and stuff.
2062
01:17:45,440 --> 01:17:46,280
Oh, could be.
2063
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:47,440
I don't know 100%.
2064
01:17:47,440 --> 01:17:47,680
That's interesting.
2065
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:49,040
But that's like the vibe I got.
2066
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,240
I don't think he was an eye doctor.
2067
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:51,720
OK.
2068
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:55,240
But yeah, I would imagine that his license would be taken.
2069
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:56,400
I would think.
2070
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:57,840
I would think.
2071
01:17:57,840 --> 01:17:58,840
Not a guarantee.
2072
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:00,840
Yeah.
2073
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:03,160
OK.
2074
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,680
In a reading about love, the high priestess
2075
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:10,680
may describe a person who's intuitive spiritual in touch
2076
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:14,480
with the higher realms of existence.
2077
01:18:14,480 --> 01:18:17,360
Reminding me of the word salad website.
2078
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:18,200
A little bit.
2079
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:19,480
Yeah.
2080
01:18:19,480 --> 01:18:23,600
She can also represent a very romantic relationship
2081
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:27,920
that may not be well grounded in reality.
2082
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:31,280
That almost makes me think of the person who started the website.
2083
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:34,560
It's like she's in a relationship with this property that's not real.
2084
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:35,040
Yeah.
2085
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:35,560
Literally.
2086
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:40,280
She's being catfished by her own imagination about the property.
2087
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:40,780
Yeah.
2088
01:18:40,780 --> 01:18:41,840
Is that a thing?
2089
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:43,040
I think it's a thing.
2090
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:46,200
We read that last line one more time.
2091
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:50,760
She can also represent a very romantic relationship that may not
2092
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:54,200
be well grounded in reality.
2093
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:58,480
It reminds me too of just like all the rumors and the people, especially
2094
01:18:58,480 --> 01:19:03,320
like the high school kids who are romanticizing this property that's
2095
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:04,640
got a cult on it.
2096
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:05,680
Yeah.
2097
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:09,080
That's an interesting way to interpret that.
2098
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:09,840
Oh, thank you.
2099
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:14,560
No, I just, I think, wow.
2100
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:15,560
Yeah.
2101
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:20,120
But I feel like that it's not a word that we necessarily would readily
2102
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:26,760
associate, but how things become sort, like romanticized is actually a more
2103
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:30,280
appropriate word than it seems like on the surface.
2104
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:31,280
Yeah.
2105
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:36,880
Because it is taking something that may or may not be true and really
2106
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:42,200
interpreting it just in such a, I don't know, a twisted way.
2107
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:46,880
I don't romanticize actually feels so much more appropriate to me than I would have
2108
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:47,880
thought.
2109
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:48,880
I think so too.
2110
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:53,000
And especially if you're into spooky stuff too, you could be like really romanticizing
2111
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:54,000
it.
2112
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:55,000
Yeah, we're going to go on this property.
2113
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:56,000
It's going to be so spooky.
2114
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:59,160
All this weird shit goes down.
2115
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:00,160
Yeah.
2116
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:01,160
Yeah.
2117
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:05,400
Oh, I also had, I think, one more thought about, okay.
2118
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:09,240
Oh, so the high priestess is like a feminine card, right?
2119
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:15,000
And then there's like three women fighting over this land seemingly and like the men are
2120
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:16,000
just all gone.
2121
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:17,000
Yeah.
2122
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:18,000
I mean, I don't know if they are.
2123
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:19,000
Yeah.
2124
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:20,920
In all the stories, it's really about like three women.
2125
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:26,880
Yeah, I mean, they appear and then sort of become absent from the story.
2126
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:33,800
Whether or not that's truly the case is sort of, I guess, up for debate, but feminine energy
2127
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:34,800
for sure.
2128
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:35,800
All right.
2129
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,960
Have a creepy ass day.
2130
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,800
We'll see you next Tuesday.
2131
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:47,160
And she lost in the tunnels of Oculus Anubis.
2132
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:48,160
Under his eye.
2133
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:50,640
I don't want to be under any dudes eye.
2134
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:52,640
I'm not about that.
2135
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:54,640
I'm not about that.
2136
01:20:54,640 --> 01:21:04,840
I'm not going.
2137
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:14,840
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