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Haunted Hood River: Historic Columbia Gorge Hotel

Haunted Hood River: Historic Columbia Gorge Hotel

Dive into Hood River's haunted history, a town an hour east of Portland, OR, along the Columba River. Discover its transformation from "Dog River" to Hood River, the influence of Lewis and Clark, and the spectral residents of the Columbia Gorge Hotel....

Dive into Hood River's haunted history, a town an hour east of Portland, OR, along the Columba River. Discover its transformation from "Dog River" to Hood River, the influence of Lewis and Clark, and the spectral residents of the Columbia Gorge Hotel. Whether you're a fan of ghost stories, historical trivia, paranormal investigations, or tarot, this episode is packed with eerie tales, fascinating facts, and a little witchcraft! 

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Someone commented titled Honeymoon from helll!

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So don't go here for your Honeymoon. I don't like that.

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Okay.

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I mean I dropped that idea.

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I'm while back, but alright, let's go.

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The newlyweds were staying on the second floor,

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and one of them started randomly feeling sick

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right when they got inside the room.

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I mean it couldn't just be because you're, you know,

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it's tied to someone who rested your life for the rest of your life.

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There's no escape!

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The old ball and chain!

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Hi Caitlyn!

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Hi Cassie

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Hi creepy people!

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Hello!

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If you're new to our creepy corner of the world,

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this is PNW Haunts and Homicides,

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where we chat about true crime,

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the paranormal, and all things creepy in the Pacific Northwest.

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We also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode

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for a little bit of deeper insight into our topic.

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Unless it's too creepy for me,

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and then we just sit it out.

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No, never.

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If I don't get to, you don't get to.

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I mean the spooky place.

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In the losers?

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Wait, get in losers, we're getting Spoonie?

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Spooky!

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Oh, I want to get Spoonie.

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Oh, cute!

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I like spooning.

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Anyway, moving on.

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Oh, this is my episode.

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Hi!

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Hello!

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It's gonna be about Ghosts, Spoiler Alert.

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Whoa!

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Yeah.

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We do have a little bit of an announcement.

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In case you guys haven't already come across this,

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maybe on our social...

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we will be at True Crime Fest Northwest, here in Portland,

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because we're here in Portland,

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so that's real easy.

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Pacific Northwest?

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Yes!

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The PNW for those of you that are nasty.

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The nasty ones.

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The nasty ones.

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Yes.

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So, this takes place August 30th.

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That's a Friday.

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It's a holiday weekend.

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It runs through Sunday, September 1st,

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and we will be at the Sheraton, Portland airport, who to?

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Very fancy.

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Very fancy and neat.

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The fanciest.

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The fanciest of fanciest.

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Yes.

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We're gonna be joined by some True Crime authors,

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other fellow podcasters.

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A few names that you might recognize from our very own feed,

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including Missing in the PNW.

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Oh, hey!

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Oh, hey!

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Murder in the rain.

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Hi!

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Hi, you!

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And actually, I don't think that we've had the pleasure of

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working with her yet, but...

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Mallory.

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Mallory, we love you.

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A hateful homicide.

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We love her actually at the con in Austin.

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Okay.

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I'll have to refresh your memory later, because lovely.

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So, so lovely.

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Very, very sweet.

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I feel like I remember.

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I feel like I remember.

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We just met so many people.

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So many people that day, and then so many other podcasters.

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It all starts to get like a little...

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My brain was...

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For a ride.

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Yes.

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Yeah, but I think it's a ride.

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Do you want to share the promo code?

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Oh, cool!

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I'm going to be a red in Austin.

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Yeah, be a red in Austin.

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Do you want to share the promo code so that if people want to get tickets?

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Yeah, I do.

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It is, I think,

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HONZ10.

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That is correct.

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HAUNTS10.

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Yes.

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promo code.

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You get 10% off?

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Yes, I get 10% off.

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Get your tickets now.

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Get your tickets.

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Info will be in the show notes.

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Can't wait to see all you creepy people there.

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We'll probably have mini tarot readings and a wheel.

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So we always do.

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Like if it unless something's changed that I'm not aware of.

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Yeah, we always do it.

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We might switch up how you become eligible for a miniature reading.

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But those are details.

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Just get your tickets and we'll talk about the rest later.

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Don't read the fine print.

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I'm in.

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Who's doing this?

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Those little guys.

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All right.

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Well, are you ready to hear about my story today?

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Probably not, but like we should probably just rip that band-aid off.

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You know?

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I mean, I hope you are because once again, I have changed my topic.

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At the very last minute.

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I was so excited when you texted me.

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It was like, ooh.

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Because my life is insane.

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And sometimes people ask me for last minute surprise proposal, photo shoots.

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And then I'm like, well, since I'm going to go on a journey anyway,

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I might just find some honoured shit in that town and talk about it.

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That's what I did.

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Just write it off.

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Pod trip.

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Perfect.

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Text deductible.

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Has it turned out?

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That's how you do life.

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Life advice.

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So there is a place about an hour east of Portland, Oregon that originally belonged to the

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Cayuse, Umatilla, Walla Walla, Wasco, Wishram, Yakama, Confederated Tribes of Warm Springs,

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Confederated Tribes of Grand Ronde, and Confederated Tribes of

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Siletz Indians

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I got this from native-land.ca.

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So you put in the town and then it gives you all of the list of tribes that used to live there.

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That's so cool.

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I know we've done that before.

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We've done that, I think, for where I live now.

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A few other places that we've talked about.

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I feel like this list is really long.

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But even I was looking at the confederated tribes of all of the different three.

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And there's even more listed here, those because those are all grouped together.

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So I was like, "Oh, this is a lot."

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But there was a lot of people around at that time.

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But as we all know, in 1805, Lewis and Clark rolled through and started naming things on this

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little map.

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They were sort of put together.

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And they named a little river that was flowing into the Columbia.

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I don't know what the river was originally called, like what the Native Americans might have

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called it, but the saying about her.

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But they named this little river, "Labeasche River," after one of their translators Friends

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Francois Labiche.

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Oh, I know.

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Right.

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So fancy.

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Clearly.

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I think.

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Yeah, no, that's definitely a little strong.

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Fringe.

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That definitely sells frames.

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Fringe.

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Actually, I guess this dude, they named like two rivers after him because he was such a huge

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help translating with their trade and stuff.

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So he was kind of a big deal.

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It's really interesting because I think there were a lot of French people that sort of landed

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in Canada and other parts of the Pacific Northwest that they started to kind of become interpreters

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with the natives because they actually learned the language and stuff.

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It's really interesting.

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You could really cost that.

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No, I don't want to cut that.

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That is super interesting.

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I love the tidbit.

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Also, I'm like, whoa, bro, crash alert.

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Because they named two rivers after him.

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Two whole-ass rivers.

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Two of them.

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Like why?

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When did they get confusing like which Labeasche river are you going to?

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Well, maybe they named the other one like the French ones.

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French river.

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I think it specifically said they named them both Labeasche.

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Oh, okay.

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Maybe they were in different parts of the country.

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But you know what?

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Honestly, it didn't really matter because I guess either no one really liked that name or they

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Maybe they couldn't pronounce it.

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So they just actually called it dog river for about 50 years.

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Labeasche.

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Oh my god.

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Is it because this is like lab or they're like it's like a lab dog.

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That's the only part they pronounce.

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I don't know.

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So they called it dog river.

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Because white people.

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Oh my gosh.

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But I feel like Labeasche.

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Come on.

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I know.

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I really like that.

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Me too.

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Can we just go back and name it Labeasche?

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The town would be very different today.

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I bet.

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Because in 1854, Mary and Nathaniel Coe.

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Coe?

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It's COE.

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Move to the area.

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And Mary was just not having it with this dog river name.

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I mean, yeah.

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So she carried the shada of the situation and she had the name change to Hood River.

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And an unincorporated community developed until it was formally incorporated in 1895.

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Wow.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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So that's like, I mean, Hood River, you brand new.

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Yes.

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Can you imagine now if...

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So I assume she changed it to Hood because Hood Mount Hood and it's a river coming down from

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Mountain.

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So, you know, it makes sense.

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I see where she got there.

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Can you imagine if like the town of Hood River now was just dog river?

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Like, I mean...

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Or...

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Bitch River?

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Bitch River.

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Oh, nice one.

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Honestly, like...

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I don't know.

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Tag yourself.

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Like, I feel like I resemble that.

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So, I don't know.

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You resemble bitch river?

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Yeah, a little bit.

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Like a full-ass river of bitch.

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Depends on what day you catch me.

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You know what?

266
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We just have to move into an unincorporated town, rename it, and then take it over and incorporate

267
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it.

268
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Is that all?

269
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Okay.

270
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Done.

271
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The Coe's?

272
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Coe Coe?

273
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Yeah, Coe.

274
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Why do I suck?

275
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You don't suck.

276
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Like, you don't want to get it wrong, so it feels like a lot of pressure.

277
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Like, it makes sense.

278
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It's the pressure.

279
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The Coe's were actually some of the first to plant fruit trees in the Hood River Valley.

280
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Thank God.

281
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Which is like a huge fruit for its fruit now.

282
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Yeah.

283
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There's an area called the fruit loop.

284
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So cute.

285
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I'm obsessed.

286
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I want to live in the fruit loop.

287
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We can go.

288
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We should go and like, you can go pick fruit.

289
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Yes.

290
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We're going to go.

291
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Yes.

292
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We're going.

293
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Hood River.

294
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We're coming for you.

295
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The town was known for its apples until a big freeze in 1919.

296
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So, I think I just like killed a bunch of the apple trees.

297
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Oh, no.

298
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But I guess pear trees ended up doing better.

299
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They're now known for their Anjou Pears.

300
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Oh.

301
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Do you know what an Anjou Pears is?

302
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Anjou.

303
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I don't know.

304
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Yeah, it's like kind of, yeah.

305
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Anjou but it's like fruit.

306
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I see again.

307
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Yeah.

308
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So that's almost like Anjou

309
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Anjou?

310
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Anjou?

311
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Like you're asking in question.

312
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Anjou.

313
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What do you do for you?

314
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Where were you?

315
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Anjou.

316
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Anjou.

317
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Anjou.

318
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Yeah.

319
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I want the pears.

320
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Oh, I love pears.

321
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Well, if you can believe it, there is some haunted stuff in this town too.

322
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It's just, it's not all about the pears.

323
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I don't believe it.

324
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No.

325
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I think it's all about the fruit.

326
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Sorry.

327
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I'm going to have to, I'm just going to have to switch gears from the fruit.

328
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We're going to move on to stuff that I like to talk about.

329
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There's still dancing pears in my head.

330
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It's all about the fruit for me.

331
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Pears in sheets.

332
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Like ghosts.

333
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Ghost pears.

334
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Well, okay.

335
00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:30,000
So when I last minute decided to change my topic again for like the 30,000,000 in this podcast,

336
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I knew I was on the right track though.

337
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When I came across this hotel, and they mentioned Franklin Damn Roosevelt stayed here.

338
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Oh, Goddamn it.

339
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Even though we recently talked about him not doing some great things in Caitlyn's episode.

340
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If you rise to that level of power, it's sort of a double-edged sword.

341
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Not to defend anything, right?

342
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Right.

343
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I mean, it's rough.

344
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It's rough.

345
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I will say that not going to defend concentration or internment camps just to be clear.

346
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But he keeps popping up in our pod and like we can't ignore the synchronicity.

347
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Like I just don't know why FDR like, why are you haunting us?

348
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Like, where is this?

349
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You know, I don't know.

350
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It's almost like he's just like, he's been everywhere all over the United States.

351
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Yeah, like he was the president of our whole nation.

352
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It's like he toured and like maybe like did like some sort of campaign or something.

353
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I don't know.

354
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It's weird.

355
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I don't know.

356
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I just keep hearing Mariah Carey.

357
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Seriously, you guys need to be obsessed with this.

358
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Clearly.

359
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Get a grived-done.

360
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But I can ignore it.

361
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Well, around the time of the old dog hood nameswap, the land that the present day, Columbia Gorge Hotel sits on,

362
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was the site of a lumber mill.

363
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And lumberjacks.

364
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The lumberjacks.

365
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Their friends in the pod too.

366
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And they actually made whiskey barrel staves, which is pretty cool.

367
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Okay, so same war.

368
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Yeah, that's all I know about it.

369
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I just thought that was cool, like little fun facts that they made like the most of the barrel.

370
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No, it is.

371
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That's so cool.

372
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Yeah.

373
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It seems like, is that the only thing they did at that lumber mill?

374
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Like how many whiskey barrels are people going through here in the Pacific Northwest?

375
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I mean a lot.

376
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Obviously.

377
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In 1904, the Wagwin-Win hotel was built.

378
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The cute name comes from a nearby 207-foot waterfall.

379
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Gorgeous.

380
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And when I say nearby, I had no--

381
00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,000
Did they build the hotel on top of it?

382
00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,000
They literally did.

383
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It's in the backyard of the fucking hotel.

384
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I had no idea you guys when I went and I was wandering the grounds and then I walked the back.

385
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I saw the sign that said, "Wagwin-Win falls and it just had like an arrow."

386
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But I was like, "If it was a hike, they would have like the mileage."

387
00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,000
Yeah, they would.

388
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This fucking waterfall has to be like right there.

389
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And I was right there.

390
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I got pictures.

391
00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,000
It was so cool.

392
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I'm so excited to see the pictures.

393
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I should just like air drop them to your mouth.

394
00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,000
Yeah, do that.

395
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Okay.

396
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Right.

397
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I wanted to stay the night, but I was like, "I can't drop that amount of money on one room for my soul for one night."

398
00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,000
It's so pretty.

399
00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:04,000
In the grounds, like there's so much more grounds like in the front.

400
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That's the back.

401
00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:13,000
There's cute little stone bridges and there's extremes and little places to sit and little trails.

402
00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,000
They got little duckies.

403
00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,000
It's so cute.

404
00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,000
It's so cute.

405
00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,000
There's a bridge and there's flowing waters.

406
00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:27,000
That's like the kind of hotel where you just like leave your window open all night and just listen.

407
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It's like the abbling brook.

408
00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,000
It is pretty.

409
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And I kind of like, "Oh, I got a little ahead of myself because I was so excited to talk about the waterfall."

410
00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:42,000
So this is actually the Wagwin-Win hotel is not the building that's there now, but it was on this man.

411
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All of the grounds are the original design and all the trails and stuff are from the original.

412
00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,000
The original Wagwin-Win hotel.

413
00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,000
Wow.

414
00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,000
So that all stayed.

415
00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:09,000
It was a successful summer resort for 16 years until it was bought by Simon Benson for $400,000.

416
00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,000
Oh, okay.

417
00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:18,000
And today's money would be $6,324,666.

418
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That's so many doll hairs.

419
00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,000
A lot of dollars.

420
00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,000
Dollars.

421
00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,000
Yes.

422
00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,000
Dollars.

423
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And then he tore it down.

424
00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,000
And...

425
00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,000
Oh no.

426
00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:33,000
So he tore that hotel down to build a new one of his own.

427
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One that was named after himself, of course.

428
00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,000
Yeah.

429
00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,000
The hotel Benson.

430
00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,000
You know, not the one in Portland.

431
00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,000
Is it why you're doing...

432
00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,000
Is there a Benson in Portland?

433
00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,000
There is, yeah.

434
00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,000
Not the same one.

435
00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,000
I don't know if it's the same guy.

436
00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,000
I didn't look into that.

437
00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,000
I would assume probably.

438
00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,000
It's like that's not a super common name.

439
00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,000
He was like a wealthy dude.

440
00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,000
I mean, building hotels on the side of waterfalls in the show.

441
00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,000
I mean, it's possible.

442
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,000
It's the same person, but I don't think so.

443
00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,000
I meant to kind of go down there, but I was like, I already did different routes.

444
00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,000
So much.

445
00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,000
Yeah.

446
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,000
There's a lot.

447
00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,000
There's so much.

448
00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:15,000
This new hotel Benson was a popular place since its Grande opening.

449
00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,000
Oh.

450
00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,000
Ariana Grande, oh Grande.

451
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,000
In June of 1921.

452
00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,000
Oh wow.

453
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,000
I know.

454
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,000
It's like almost June.

455
00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,000
Weird, right?

456
00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,000
Like I think this comes out in June.

457
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,000
Yeah.

458
00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,000
So weird.

459
00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,000
There's another weird little cute thing that...

460
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:38,000
I don't know if I told you because I was like, we rescheduled this recording because I was

461
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,000
feeling good.

462
00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,000
And I was like, I would do it for you.

463
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,000
And I was like holding on to this really cute, fun fact I want to tell you.

464
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,000
Like that was my bright spot.

465
00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,000
Like it'll hold.

466
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,000
Yeah.

467
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,000
So that's coming.

468
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,000
Like just in a second.

469
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,000
I'm just like, I can't stop.

470
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,000
It's like Christmas and I'm telling you what I'm getting you.

471
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,000
I'm so excited.

472
00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,000
You're like, you hear it and you're like, oh.

473
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,000
No.

474
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:08,000
So not only did FDR stay, but so did Coolidge.

475
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,000
No, not Jennifer.

476
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,000
That was Calvin.

477
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,000
That's so funny.

478
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:21,000
I mean, I knew better because we're already talking about presidents, but I'm like, it'd be so

479
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,000
much cooler if it was Jennifer.

480
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,000
I know.

481
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,000
I like basically read your mind before I even had to.

482
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,000
Yeah.

483
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,000
I know we all got excited.

484
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,000
Are they?

485
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,000
Are they related?

486
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,000
Probably not.

487
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,000
That would be interesting though.

488
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,000
Yeah.

489
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,000
We can explore that.

490
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,000
Jennifer Coolidge for president.

491
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,000
I would be so into that.

492
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,000
Oh my god.

493
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:56,000
Anyway, speaking of strong sexy women actresses, Claire Boe also stayed at the hotel.

494
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,000
And everyone should know who that is by now.

495
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,000
Thank you, Taylor Swift.

496
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,000
Do you know what is?

497
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,000
Yeah, I think so.

498
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,000
Because like I, I don't know.

499
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,000
I immediately went and looked it up.

500
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,000
I had no fucking clue who it was until I googled it.

501
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,000
Oh.

502
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,000
And she was like the first, like it girl.

503
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,000
Oh.

504
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,000
Okay.

505
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,000
I think she was in silent films.

506
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,000
Yeah.

507
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:24,000
And she was like kind of like the first sexy, like Marilyn Monroe type.

508
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,000
I think those type of actresses after her looked up to her.

509
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,000
Okay.

510
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,000
Okay.

511
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,000
So pretty cool.

512
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,000
My fun fact.

513
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,000
Yes, her birthday.

514
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,000
Is it July 29th?

515
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,000
It's July 29th.

516
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,000
The 1905 dude.

517
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,000
We're basically twins.

518
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,000
I thought that was so cool.

519
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,000
I saw that and I was like, I have to tell Caitlin.

520
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,000
And your birthday is coming up.

521
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,000
Yeah, it is.

522
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,000
It's going to be lost in the shuffle this year.

523
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,000
But we should just have a clear about celebration for you.

524
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,000
Like an old, tiny, silent film party.

525
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,000
Ooh.

526
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,000
It's fucking cool.

527
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,000
We can like, pencil or eyebrows on.

528
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,000
It'll be great.

529
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,000
I mean, I already do.

530
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,000
Yeah, but like not like they used to.

531
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,000
That's the one line.

532
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,000
Yeah, it's like one line.

533
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,000
It's a straight line across your face.

534
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,000
Yeah, yeah.

535
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,000
Totes.

536
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:32,000
Well, despite its popularity, the hotel couldn't withstand the depression.

537
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,000
You know, a lot of people can't.

538
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,000
Yeah.

539
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:42,000
And in 1952, it was sold to new owners and became a retirement home.

540
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,000
I mean, so.

541
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,000
Fucking sign me up.

542
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,000
I mean, yeah, it is nice, but it's gorgeous.

543
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:54,000
Kind of crazy that it went from like a hotel like so lively in and all the same.

544
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,000
Yeah.

545
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,000
It's like a retirement home.

546
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,000
True.

547
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:02,000
Where it's like people just, you know, relaxing about and.

548
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,000
Yeah.

549
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,000
I mean, it's a different vibe for sure.

550
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,000
Definitely a gorgeous, gorgeous spot.

551
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,000
Yeah.

552
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,000
Yeah.

553
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:16,000
And I also wonder how many people passed there since it was a retirement home.

554
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,000
People there were are of.

555
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,000
Natural passing age, you know, to put it.

556
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:29,000
I just feel like probably they all like called their family and were like, hey, like.

557
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,000
I just want to come and be at home with you.

558
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,000
So I feel like probably no one.

559
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,000
No one passed there.

560
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,000
That's what I would say.

561
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,000
I think maybe the Storks come and pick them back up.

562
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,000
Yeah.

563
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,000
Yeah.

564
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,000
Also that's that probably they drop them off and then they pick back up when it's time.

565
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,000
Totally.

566
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,000
Yeah.

567
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,000
Yeah.

568
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:57,000
After 1977, ownership changed a couple more times along with a lot of renovations because,

569
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:04,000
you know, she's getting a third age a little bit until it finally reopened sometime around

570
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,000
2012 as the Columbia Gorge Hotel.

571
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,000
Okay.

572
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,000
And that's what it's known as today.

573
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,000
Okay.

574
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:18,000
It actually like I kind of did dig a little bit on this and it wasn't super clear with the

575
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,000
dates like after 1977.

576
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:27,000
They said renovation started but then like didn't actually say when it opened up again.

577
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,000
So I'm not really sure.

578
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,000
It's just, if anyone else wants to, you know, take time to look it up for me.

579
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,000
Be great.

580
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:39,000
She did a lot of research and I'm kind of done with that phase.

581
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,640
I mean, I googled when it opened and it wouldn't tell me.

582
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,320
So I said, fuck off.

583
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,320
I'm not adding it.

584
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,320
Some of a bitch.

585
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:53,280
I thought that did seem a little backwards though because like it had all the dates from

586
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,760
like before that.

587
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:55,760
Oh, yeah.

588
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,000
You know, you think like records will like get a little better with time.

589
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:07,280
I mean, to some degree, but I feel like sometimes they can be hard to find still.

590
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:12,720
Those records might exist in a number of forms or fashion.

591
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,800
They just haven't like written a blog post about it.

592
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,000
That was easily searchable on Google.

593
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,000
Exactly.

594
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,000
Exactly.

595
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,600
I have to go sit through the archives.

596
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:22,600
Yeah.

597
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,240
Sit through all of the tax documents for properties, which is goals.

598
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:28,240
Yeah.

599
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,080
Someday I would love to have that kind of fucking time.

600
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,080
Okay.

601
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,080
I really would.

602
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,880
Pretty time consuming.

603
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,360
Give me more money.

604
00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:42,360
So I'm going to read a quote from the hotel's website.

605
00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:43,960
Ooh.

606
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:52,120
Perched atop the majestic cliffs of the Columbia River, Columbia Gorge Hotel and Spa, who

607
00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:55,160
has wordy guest accommodations.

608
00:25:55,160 --> 00:26:02,360
Facilities include our award-winning Simon's Cliff House restaurant and Valentino Lounge

609
00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:08,880
and outdoor terrace for dining or drinks, a meeting space to accommodate up to 130 guests.

610
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:09,880
Wow.

611
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:10,880
Okay.

612
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,440
Which I think is their mind fall room.

613
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,440
Okay.

614
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,440
Yeah.

615
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,440
We'll talk a little bit about that later.

616
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:18,440
That makes sense.

617
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,440
Yeah.

618
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,840
And they do, I think they do weddings or two because they have like a whole outdoor.

619
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:24,840
Who's going to find it?

620
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:29,880
They have like a dance floor set up and like light like twinkle lights everywhere.

621
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,880
I know.

622
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,720
I did look at at least one venue in Hood River.

623
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:36,720
Oh, you did?

624
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:37,720
Oh, you did.

625
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:38,720
Yeah.

626
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:44,800
I mean, we didn't go out and tour it, but it was like kind of on the sort of short list for

627
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,080
places that we might go out and tour.

628
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:58,160
But as far as location, like proximity to PDX, you know, as far as like, you know, for people

629
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:03,040
coming in that are flying in because they do have a lot of people that are flying in

630
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,040
the front.

631
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,800
It is an hour east of Portland.

632
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:06,800
Exactly.

633
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:07,800
Yeah.

634
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:08,800
So it's a tough one.

635
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:14,400
I wanted to pick something close to Portland.

636
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,320
We've got something we're really excited to share with you guys.

637
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,480
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638
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,680
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639
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:29,600
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640
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:30,600
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641
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642
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643
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He was found guilty of voluntary manslaughter and philonia's assault, but he was only sentenced

644
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,320
to five months of probation.

645
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,080
And this would be the last time that anyone ever saw him.

646
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,680
There are allegedly two women who also drowned in the first month's pool.

647
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,920
What's this the same glowing green they'd seen in the darkness the night before?

648
00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:06,920
He had refused to sit near the wagon cloth because of stains on it, which were most likely

649
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:07,920
blood.

650
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:13,600
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651
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:14,600
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652
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,440
And I'm Sierra.

653
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,160
And this is twisted and un-court.

654
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:27,160
Like the mouth creepy people, their info is in our show notes.

655
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:32,080
So I kind of teased you into the hauntings and then I like didn't talk about them yet.

656
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:37,160
I kind of gave you a little bit of a buffer, but now I like kind of have to get into it.

657
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,360
Here we go.

658
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,520
Okay.

659
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:45,320
One of the common occurrences here is like so gross to me.

660
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:50,920
And I actually hope that it's not someone living because like it would just be so rude.

661
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,840
You smell of cigar smoke.

662
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:58,280
Yeah, I don't care for that.

663
00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,600
I wrote kind of icky.

664
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,560
I wrote get the fuck out of here, but like GTF 008.

665
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,520
It's like, get through.

666
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:08,760
Get through.

667
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,760
Get through.

668
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,280
That's how I feel about cigar smoke.

669
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,280
Yeah, it's pretty icky.

670
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:13,280
It's pretty pungent.

671
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,280
Yeah.

672
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:19,800
Not a fan, especially like if you smoke a cigar and then like come home later, like fuck

673
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,400
off, fuck right off.

674
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,400
Get out of my house.

675
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,200
Are you speaking from experience?

676
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,000
No, absolutely not.

677
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,000
Okay.

678
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,120
Anyways, moving on.

679
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,440
Moving on.

680
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,680
People think it could be someone who lived there when it was a retirement home.

681
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,680
Okay.

682
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,480
Yeah, that makes sense.

683
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,480
Yeah.

684
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,680
Sogar smoking, you know, older men.

685
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,840
That's all they got to do to hang out.

686
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,720
Just smoke cigars and like play chess.

687
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:48,720
I don't know.

688
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:49,720
Peanuts.

689
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,000
Peanuts, there you go.

690
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:58,800
The paranormal activity mostly occurs on the third floor and the ballroom, which I assume

691
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,040
is on the main floor.

692
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,640
Okay.

693
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:02,640
There is reports.

694
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,840
Actually, it's funny that I say that it occurs only on the third floor and the ballroom

695
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,920
because you'll see why later.

696
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,040
Is it funny or is it?

697
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,240
It's just basically the entire hotel.

698
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,240
Okay.

699
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,240
Okay.

700
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,640
Fine.

701
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:24,520
There's reports of having a hard time getting some of the guest room's doors to open because

702
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:34,520
somehow in an empty room, some of the furniture made its way over to lock the door.

703
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:35,520
No.

704
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:36,520
No.

705
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:37,520
No.

706
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,440
And I'm out.

707
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:47,440
Or guests have called the front desk saying that they can't get out of their rooms and that

708
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,280
the door seems barricaded.

709
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,280
No.

710
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,280
No.

711
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,280
No.

712
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:58,360
So it's like it's either trying to get you to stay out of the room or trying to keep you

713
00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,360
in.

714
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,360
Oh my God.

715
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:06,480
I want to say I don't know which is worse, but I think trying to keep you in is so much

716
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,480
worse.

717
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,480
Yeah.

718
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:09,480
That is worse.

719
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:15,960
You can get out through the window like, ooh, just can you get out through the window?

720
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,360
I mean, someone might have tried to do that.

721
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:20,360
I hate that.

722
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,360
I hate it.

723
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,600
I don't like it at all.

724
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,840
I'm so sorry.

725
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,760
Several apparitions have been cited.

726
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:33,000
A man wearing a classy old-timey fit.

727
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,560
Top hat most definitely included.

728
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:36,560
Okay.

729
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,080
And I don't think he's hat man.

730
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,920
I think he's like a generally like nice, like not menacing shadow person.

731
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,280
I think he's just like a nice old-timey ghost.

732
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,280
Okay.

733
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,280
Great.

734
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,280
I think people said he's like helpful.

735
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,280
Cool.

736
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,280
Yeah.

737
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,080
So it's like, I know what you're thinking.

738
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,080
He's not hat man.

739
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,080
He's not evil.

740
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,520
I totally was thinking that.

741
00:31:58,520 --> 00:31:59,520
Yeah.

742
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:00,520
Yeah.

743
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:01,520
Yeah.

744
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,280
I didn't black that out at all.

745
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,560
We haven't really talked about hat man yet.

746
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:06,560
Yeah.

747
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,160
But I'm sure you've picked it up here in there.

748
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,160
Yeah.

749
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,640
I have a hat man story.

750
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:13,640
Okay.

751
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:14,640
Great.

752
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:15,640
I know.

753
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:16,640
I'm so excited.

754
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:17,640
I'm holding out on everyone.

755
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:18,640
I'm so excited.

756
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:19,640
I'm holding out on everyone.

757
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:24,040
That's going to be like my bombshell moment of like, what?

758
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,040
Everyone.

759
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,880
You've always said that you haven't been haunted and then I drop this on on everyone's

760
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:29,880
butt.

761
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:30,880
Okay.

762
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:31,880
Great.

763
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:32,880
Yeah.

764
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:33,880
Something like that.

765
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:34,880
Cool.

766
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:35,880
Terrifying.

767
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:43,960
So I've said it before and I know I'll probably say it again, but are you even a haunted

768
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,560
hotel if you don't have a lady in white?

769
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:56,920
I mean, I don't feel like we need to put like strict labels or things on stuff.

770
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:05,160
They say that she died by suicide off of the balcony, which tragically.

771
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,560
I'm not sure if it's sad.

772
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:13,160
Like every lady in white story is how they died by suicide, which sucks, which is kind of

773
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,480
why I said, ooh, we don't want to like go out the window because someone tried that and

774
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:18,920
it didn't end very well.

775
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,520
No, I mean, that's fair.

776
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:25,560
I guess it's a balcony shouldn't jump out of her window like at the man race of, but I'm

777
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,080
really glad that my dress isn't white white.

778
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,080
Yeah, me too.

779
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,600
If I'm being honest because then you have no chance of dying and being a lady in white.

780
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,600
And it's, say, you're safe.

781
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:35,600
You're good to go.

782
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:36,600
Okay, great.

783
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:42,120
There's actually, there's honeymoon stuff in here later.

784
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,120
Oh, yeah.

785
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,120
For sure.

786
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,120
For sure.

787
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,120
Sorry.

788
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,400
Just know I'm coming for you with the honeymoon stuff.

789
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,560
I don't do it on purpose, just like you don't talk about dead animals on purpose.

790
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:54,560
Yeah.

791
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:55,560
Okay.

792
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,320
A woman is also seen in room 330.

793
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,840
I'm actually not sure if it's the same woman or not or if it's like two different women.

794
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,840
The stories weren't super clear.

795
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,160
Okay.

796
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:15,000
And then we have Caitlin's favorite ghost, the child.

797
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,680
Are we, we should start playing Ghost Bingo.

798
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,680
Is that something another podcast does?

799
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:19,680
I don't think so.

800
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,800
It like kind of sounds familiar.

801
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:22,800
Ghost Bingo.

802
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,600
Maybe we talked about it with Christina.

803
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:25,600
I like, okay.

804
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,640
Maybe we just do it because fuck it.

805
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:28,640
Right.

806
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:29,640
I think we can go to the same side.

807
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,400
Bingo card with like the typical ghost and then mark them off.

808
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,480
That sounds fun.

809
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,480
Let's go.

810
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:45,360
So the child ghost is seen, heard and felt around where the pool used to be.

811
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,360
Felt?

812
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,840
What the fuck does that mean?

813
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:49,840
Little handsies.

814
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,240
No, I have my own creepy little hand.

815
00:34:53,240 --> 00:34:54,240
Yeah.

816
00:34:54,240 --> 00:35:00,360
So I mean, you might feel some creepy hands that don't belong to you if you visit.

817
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,040
It'll thank you.

818
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,280
So it does say where the pool used to be.

819
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:11,480
I'm not sure where that was if it was like maybe where the spa is now because that's kind

820
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:16,000
of like a building that looks like it could have been like kind of separate from the hotel

821
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,800
and maybe a pool was in there.

822
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:18,800
Okay.

823
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,200
I'm not 100% or maybe it was the ballroom because that has like action.

824
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,200
I'm not sure.

825
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,400
They didn't tell me where the pool used to be.

826
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,200
There's nothing not haunted.

827
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:35,960
So everything is haunted.

828
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:41,040
I swear to you, it's always like a kid at the pool, like a creepy kid at a creepy empty pool.

829
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,480
Just it's not okay.

830
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,400
But like pools are the shit when you're a kid.

831
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,400
So I kind of got it.

832
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,560
Yeah.

833
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:53,920
I might become an adult size ghost, a pool, who knows?

834
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,160
An adult size child.

835
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,160
What are you going to do?

836
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:05,480
If you're a bit sensitive, you might feel increased energy in the building or feel like

837
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,360
you're being watched.

838
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,560
I feel like maybe it has to do with that flowing like waterfall too.

839
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:13,560
All the energy.

840
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:14,560
Yeah.

841
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,560
Because that like, that might get energy.

842
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,440
You know, like, yeah.

843
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,200
What are those things with the dams?

844
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:28,440
Is that how you get power with the rushing water with the dams?

845
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:29,440
Hydro.

846
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,600
Hydro power.

847
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,280
Some EVPs have been caught.

848
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:39,320
Electronic voice phenomenon of a woman humming.

849
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,040
I mean, that could just be me.

850
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,280
I started humming a Christmas song.

851
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:51,120
I don't know why.

852
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:58,760
They also caught what sounds like shredding paper and knocking.

853
00:36:58,760 --> 00:36:59,760
No.

854
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,520
No, the knocking has to stop.

855
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,520
Okay.

856
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:04,520
No.

857
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:05,520
No.

858
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,520
No.

859
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:07,520
No.

860
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,920
I like knocking.

861
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,000
I think that's fun.

862
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,720
I've been watching a lot of ghost hunters different from ghost adventures.

863
00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:16,440
There's no Zach Baggins.

864
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:22,680
So I've been watching ghost hunters and they do like a lot of knocking and like, yeah.

865
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:28,880
They do this thing that is like kind of interesting to me where they, they go like a like tell, tell

866
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:35,320
me your name and then they go a b c b e and then they like you're not the knock.

867
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,320
Okay.

868
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,320
And so like spelled out.

869
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,960
I think it's really hard to write out.

870
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:40,960
Yeah.

871
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,680
So I'm like, what if it's like a delayed reaction and I'm like talking too fast.

872
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:49,160
And they're like, no, I meant C, but they got all the way to E.

873
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:55,680
I just don't seem to work out for the ghost hunters, but I don't know what it does.

874
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,880
We'd probably second guess ourselves.

875
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:58,880
Yeah, we like.

876
00:37:58,880 --> 00:37:59,880
Well, it could be.

877
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:04,520
Well, let's just get a Ouija board at that point.

878
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,520
No, yeah.

879
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,520
Just kind of.

880
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:09,520
Okay.

881
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:10,520
Now I have indigestion.

882
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:15,520
Sorry.

883
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:16,520
Oh my god.

884
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,160
I'm going to have the burps so bad.

885
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:25,160
I'll scare the burps back in.

886
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,160
There's also unexplained temperature changes.

887
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,000
I know that you would be very sensitive too.

888
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,000
Yeah.

889
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:40,120
I also read several different stories about the closet motion sensor lights turning

890
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:45,200
on repeatedly for no reason.

891
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:51,800
So like the closets are either closed or they're like the doors are pulled over and you

892
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:57,160
can see the light in there and it just keeps going off and like obviously no one's in the

893
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,160
damn closet.

894
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,920
I just feel like maybe it's still sensing you through the door.

895
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,320
Like, that's, I'm going to chalk it up to that.

896
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:05,320
Yeah.

897
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,320
Yeah.

898
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,800
Sensing you through the door.

899
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:09,800
Yeah.

900
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:10,800
Okay.

901
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:16,800
Should we put that to the test?

902
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,720
I'm really busy these days.

903
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:25,560
So like we'll probably have to like, I don't know, we can get it like scheduled that for

904
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:26,560
whenever.

905
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:27,560
Okay.

906
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:28,560
Yeah.

907
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,800
We got some debunking to do.

908
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,760
I hate that.

909
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:41,320
Some people who stand on the third floor say that they hear sounds of praying.

910
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:42,800
That's not correct.

911
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:43,800
Like praying.

912
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:44,800
Like religious.

913
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,800
Yeah, that's not right.

914
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:47,800
Okay.

915
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:48,800
Partying.

916
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:49,800
Oh.

917
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,240
Partying is very different from praying.

918
00:39:52,240 --> 00:40:01,280
I mean, I guess if you're like super into God praying is your party and our God.

919
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,280
Yeah.

920
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:05,560
I'm burning.

921
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:06,560
Okay.

922
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:15,160
Some people who stay on the third floor say that they hear what sounds like people partying

923
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,680
or walking around above them.

924
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:24,400
But the third floor, that's the top, topiest of the floor.

925
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:25,400
Yeah.

926
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,240
There's nothing above them.

927
00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:28,240
Okay.

928
00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:35,080
So they shouldn't be hearing sounds of walking around or talking above, right above them.

929
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,080
Yeah.

930
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,080
Mm-hmm.

931
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,080
Great.

932
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:47,520
Shadow figures, orbs, whispers, child's fingerprints on mirrors.

933
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:58,120
Curtains moving by themselves when windows are completely closed and the AC is on.

934
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,120
Too much.

935
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,120
Too much.

936
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,120
Too much.

937
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,120
I don't like it.

938
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,120
No.

939
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:09,000
I wrote this one for Caitlyn.

940
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,000
Great.

941
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:15,960
Someone commented titled Honeymoon form Hell.

942
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,120
So don't go here for your honeymoon, Caitlyn.

943
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,120
Okay.

944
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,120
I'm going to drop that idea.

945
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,120
a while back.

946
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:23,120
But all right.

947
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,640
Let's go.

948
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:30,240
The newlyweds were staying on the second floor and one of them started randomly feeling sick

949
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:32,320
right when they got inside the room.

950
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:33,320
Great.

951
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,760
I mean, it couldn't just be because you're, you know, just tied to someone the rest of your

952
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,280
life for the rest of your life.

953
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,520
There's no escape.

954
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,800
The old ball and chain.

955
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,120
And I'm actually going to quote the rest of their comment.

956
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,200
All these comments are from OregonHauntedHouses.com.

957
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:55,200
Ooh.

958
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,880
One of my common sources for the comments.

959
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:01,560
The room got super hot.

960
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,280
I felt like throwing up instantly.

961
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:10,240
I remember seeing bloody faces of a woman and man outside our window.

962
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:12,520
That escalated quickly.

963
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,760
You know that's like my kryptonite, right?

964
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,120
Like being really hot out of nowhere.

965
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,120
Yeah.

966
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,120
I hate that.

967
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,120
But like, seeing bloody faces, that's like whatever.

968
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,160
Oh, I mean, yeah, that's probably annoying too.

969
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:29,160
But like being too hot is my nightmare.

970
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:36,240
The thing about this is they go, they, they say seeing bloody faces casually and then go

971
00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:43,720
on to say, quote, while sleeping, I felt like I had something pushing, pressing my body

972
00:42:43,720 --> 00:42:48,360
into the bed, a dark presence sitting on my chest.

973
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,200
Like how did you go to sleep after your seeing bloody faces outside the window?

974
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,200
I don't know.

975
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:55,800
Not trying to victim shame.

976
00:42:55,800 --> 00:43:04,120
No, but yeah, I, not a lot of sleep in happening for me after that.

977
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:11,120
It was like someone had opened an evil portal in that room like a Ouija board was used.

978
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,680
Many dark spirits in that room.

979
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:15,680
Great.

980
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,360
Thank you.

981
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,040
We didn't stay the two nights.

982
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,160
We left by 10 a.m. the next morning.

983
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,160
Yeah.

984
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,960
I bet, I bet.

985
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,560
Goods even worse.

986
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,040
I went directly to the hospital.

987
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,840
I thought I was going to die.

988
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,640
They gave me a shot of penicillin in my rear.

989
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:33,640
Oh, my God.

990
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,880
What's penicillin before?

991
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,680
Like an, that's actually, an avaiant.

992
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:39,680
Yeah.

993
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:40,680
Yeah.

994
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:41,680
Damn.

995
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,920
So like they were actually sick.

996
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,400
Something was not right.

997
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,600
Do you really get penicillin in your butt?

998
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:53,320
I mean, that's, they can do it that way.

999
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,520
Well, they chose to.

1000
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:55,920
Yeah, they chose to.

1001
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,520
That was a choice.

1002
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,440
They go on to say it was the sickest I've ever been in my life.

1003
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,800
Sick are two weeks.

1004
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,280
I am already sensitive to the spiritual realm.

1005
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,680
There is some bad energy there for sure.

1006
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,600
I would never go back.

1007
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,640
I have seen and heard good and bad spirits in my life.

1008
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,840
You go there looking for evil.

1009
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,600
You might just find it.

1010
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:21,600
No joke.

1011
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:22,600
Okay.

1012
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,360
They should do a ghost adventure there if they haven't already.

1013
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,360
Oh, my God.

1014
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,720
I'm willing to take their word for it.

1015
00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:36,200
Like I don't need to experience it because I'm also afraid of needles.

1016
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,280
So yeah, I mean, I would like to see Zak Bagans go there though.

1017
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:45,080
Well, yeah, let him get a shot of penicillin up his butt.

1018
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,000
I mean, in his butt cheek, you get it.

1019
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,000
You know what?

1020
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,000
Just, yeah.

1021
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,160
I'm not about that life.

1022
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,120
This was from 2006.

1023
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,800
So it's possible that like the energy is cleared up by now.

1024
00:44:58,800 --> 00:44:59,800
Not really sure.

1025
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:00,800
It's kind of a long time ago.

1026
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:01,800
Yeah.

1027
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,560
Do you see how quickly she starts negotiating?

1028
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:05,560
Seriously?

1029
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,800
It was just 2006, you know?

1030
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,200
It was like so many years ago.

1031
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,000
Zach Begins hasn't even been there.

1032
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,840
So it's probably not that haunted.

1033
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:15,840
I did chat.

1034
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:20,040
As far as I know, I didn't find an episode.

1035
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,040
Okay.

1036
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:29,440
Someone else staying on the second floor commented that they had a very quote odd and vivid

1037
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:34,960
dream of a black mass next to the bed.

1038
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:42,240
When the mass started to smoke and catch the room on fire, they startled awake, horrified.

1039
00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:47,480
In the morning, they noticed that a Bible that I assume probably should have been in

1040
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,080
the drawer was out on the nightstand.

1041
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:56,000
And that happened to be exactly where the black mass was in their dream.

1042
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,000
Okay.

1043
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,000
Great.

1044
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,360
So I was like, oh, is this like a sleeping mask?

1045
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:06,960
Cause like I use those, you know, you put the mask on your eyes and you just like fall asleep.

1046
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:07,960
Not a mask.

1047
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:08,960
It's a mask.

1048
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:09,960
A black mask.

1049
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:10,960
Oh no.

1050
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:11,960
Okay.

1051
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:12,960
Well, I don't use those.

1052
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:13,960
Yeah.

1053
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:14,960
Healing in.

1054
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:15,960
I know.

1055
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:16,960
I know.

1056
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:17,960
I try to clear them.

1057
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:18,960
Oh no.

1058
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:19,960
Oh.

1059
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:28,200
So I think of like a shadow person, but like shapeless.

1060
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:34,360
But I have a good theory about this.

1061
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,840
So in the dream, the black mass was like catching fire.

1062
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:43,240
So maybe the Bible was like getting rid of it and protecting this person.

1063
00:46:43,240 --> 00:46:44,560
Oh, maybe.

1064
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:45,560
Yeah.

1065
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:46,560
That's what I'm going to go with.

1066
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:47,560
Okay.

1067
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,360
Cause yeah, that's better than I think.

1068
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:50,360
Well, then I should be fine.

1069
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:51,760
Cause I was like baptized.

1070
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:52,760
So, you know, right.

1071
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:53,760
Yeah, you're totally fine.

1072
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,360
You're just going to just burn all the black masses you come into contact with.

1073
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:58,360
Okay.

1074
00:46:58,360 --> 00:46:59,360
Great.

1075
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,000
Oh no.

1076
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:08,720
There were also several different commenters relating stories of sleep paralysis in

1077
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:11,000
the middle of the night.

1078
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:19,200
And someone or something sitting on the bed.

1079
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:27,320
Like they see the indents, they feel the sheets tugging like the bed dipping down one

1080
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:32,280
person said they physically like rolled towards where the dip was.

1081
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:33,280
Great.

1082
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,080
Yeah.

1083
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:41,440
One of them said upon checkout, the hotel randomly gave them $150 gift certificate for their

1084
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,440
next time.

1085
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,280
And they thought we had all the time to back on.

1086
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,280
Yeah, right.

1087
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,120
Well, they thought that was kind of odd because they never really complained about anything.

1088
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,120
Yeah.

1089
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:56,160
And they later found out that the hotel sometimes blocks off sections if they're having a lot

1090
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:01,040
of paranormal activity in the room was right next to a blocked off area.

1091
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,640
So I don't know if they actually do that or if they still do that.

1092
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,360
That was this commenter's experience.

1093
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:08,360
Okay.

1094
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:14,120
But they're like, here, maybe you probably experienced some shit here, the $150.

1095
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,120
Come back.

1096
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,120
Yeah, please come back.

1097
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:17,120
Come back.

1098
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:18,120
Great.

1099
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:22,400
If you want to give me your gift card, I'll go back.

1100
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:23,400
I'm a bag.

1101
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,200
She says.

1102
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:30,680
Also, I have no clue if they still do this, but I thought it was kind of cute.

1103
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:36,240
I found a little advertisement in October of 2016.

1104
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:40,400
The hotel had awake the dead Halloween party.

1105
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,680
And in the advertisement, it said it's their annual Halloween celebration in Hood River's

1106
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,440
own haunted hotel.

1107
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:47,440
Hontos.

1108
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,040
That'd be cool if they still do that.

1109
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,040
Yeah, that'd be fun.

1110
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,040
I have no idea.

1111
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,040
Yeah.

1112
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,680
And then drive home.

1113
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,440
You don't want to stay?

1114
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,240
They got your favorite black masses.

1115
00:48:59,240 --> 00:49:03,160
Yeah, I think I'm good.

1116
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,080
I actually talked to someone who stayed there.

1117
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:10,880
Oh, my friend Jessica and she said, she didn't see the ghost.

1118
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:11,880
Whatever.

1119
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:12,880
Okay.

1120
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,200
But they had a haunted tour for guests when she stayed.

1121
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,200
I had fun.

1122
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:21,920
They told them about it at check-in and had a little tour going for some of the guests who

1123
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:22,920
were interested.

1124
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,400
And I was like, I had no idea.

1125
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,920
So now when we stay, I'm definitely going to be like, where's this tour?

1126
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:33,280
Do you see that when we stay?

1127
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:34,280
When?

1128
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:35,280
When we stay?

1129
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,880
Well, so we're going to go with.

1130
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:47,440
Let's have a Patreon giveaway and whoever wins gets to stay with Casual and Hoodel.

1131
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:48,440
That might work.

1132
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:49,440
That might work.

1133
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:50,440
Yeah.

1134
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:51,440
We'll see.

1135
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:52,440
We'll see.

1136
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:57,840
Well, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

1137
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:58,840
Stick to it.

1138
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,520
It's actually another haunted hotel in town.

1139
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:06,080
Oh, but I'm going to save that for a little Patreon bonus.

1140
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,080
Ooh.

1141
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,080
Yeah.

1142
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:09,800
I love that.

1143
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:14,760
We'll talk about that one a little bit later with our creepy Patreon people.

1144
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,040
All right.

1145
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,400
But for now, do you want to move on to some tarot?

1146
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:20,400
Tarot.

1147
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,840
You ready to like stop talking about the ghost?

1148
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,640
That was actually kind of a scarier one than they have been recently.

1149
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:28,640
Yeah.

1150
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:29,640
That one, I don't know.

1151
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:38,360
I thought I was building like a little bit of like a taste for the spooky and that one challenged

1152
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:39,360
me.

1153
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:40,360
Yeah.

1154
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,120
I mean, that's not as scary as I could go.

1155
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:43,120
Yeah.

1156
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:44,120
No, I know.

1157
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,680
I mean, it's not a challenge.

1158
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:47,680
Challenge accepted.

1159
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:48,680
No.

1160
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:49,680
No.

1161
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:50,680
All right.

1162
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,680
Let's tarot up.

1163
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:53,680
All right.

1164
00:50:53,680 --> 00:51:00,680
Okay.

1165
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,040
I'm drawing a card now.

1166
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,480
She's drawing a card now.

1167
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:12,440
So we got the four of swords and that we do.

1168
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,720
It is a little ghost sleeping on a cloud.

1169
00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:18,520
It's very cool.

1170
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:22,320
And it's like, you're at a hotel and what do you do?

1171
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:30,720
You sleep on their cloud like bed and then the ghost sits on the bed.

1172
00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:31,720
It matches.

1173
00:51:31,720 --> 00:51:32,720
That's it.

1174
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:33,960
We don't even need to read it.

1175
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:45,600
Well, the key words are rest recuperation, retreat, solitude, introspection and recovery.

1176
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:46,600
That is interesting.

1177
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,080
It was like a summer retreat.

1178
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,560
It was a retirement home.

1179
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:51,560
Yeah.

1180
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,560
It's like a destination hotel.

1181
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:54,560
Yeah.

1182
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:55,560
You're not staying there on business.

1183
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:56,560
Probably you're staying there.

1184
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:57,560
I'm not relaxed.

1185
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,560
There's a spa.

1186
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:00,560
A spa.

1187
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:01,560
Yes.

1188
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,360
We should just go there for the spa.

1189
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:05,360
Yes.

1190
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:06,360
Please.

1191
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:07,360
Okay.

1192
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:13,440
4’s symbolize stability.

1193
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:18,880
This card represents withdrawing and resting in order to get your bearings after a time

1194
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,680
of trouble.

1195
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:29,800
Some decks show a night lying down, recuperating after an inner or outer battle.

1196
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,880
Battle with the black mask.

1197
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,880
Maybe.

1198
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,120
And we drew this in the upright position.

1199
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:37,120
We did.

1200
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,520
Okay.

1201
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:44,760
Often this card means you've been through a period of difficulty and now feel the need

1202
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,200
for introspection and solitude.

1203
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:54,080
You're examining what you've experienced, trying to understand what it all means.

1204
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,800
So you can plan for your future.

1205
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:03,120
This is the comb after the storm card.

1206
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:08,200
Sometimes it shows you're starting to recover from a physical injury or illness.

1207
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:09,200
Hmm.

1208
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,560
Wasn't that one guy sick?

1209
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,760
I don't know if it was a guy or a girl writing it, but.

1210
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:15,760
Yeah.

1211
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:16,760
The married couple.

1212
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,760
The honeymoon from home.

1213
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:19,760
Yeah.

1214
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:20,760
Interesting.

1215
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:29,760
Plus I do think of with it having been sort of a retirement facility, you think about there

1216
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:37,920
might be instances where maybe somebody is not recovering enough to necessarily return

1217
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:45,400
to living as like a single individual, but maybe regaining their strength.

1218
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:46,400
Okay.

1219
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:54,320
In reading about money, the upright for urges caution in discrimination.

1220
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:59,120
Maybe you need to separate yourself from a financial issue.

1221
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:05,840
This card can also suggest you feel overwhelmed by financial burdens and need a rest.

1222
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:06,840
The depression.

1223
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:07,840
Yeah.

1224
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:12,620
And the hotel took a rest too, because remember we talked about it being like lively and

1225
00:54:12,620 --> 00:54:14,320
then it was a retirement home.

1226
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,800
Yeah, that's a really good point.

1227
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:24,760
If the reading is about your job, you probably feel burned out at work and need a vacation.

1228
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,440
So this is about a hotel.

1229
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,520
I feel like that blinds up pretty perfectly.

1230
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:38,560
After a period of stress, confusion or difficulty, you may be sorting things out, clearing your

1231
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,200
head and regaining your strength.

1232
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,320
Oh my gosh, that's like literally the exact words I used.

1233
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:45,320
Yeah.

1234
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,360
Like a sentence ago.

1235
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:53,320
In reading about love, the for upright can mean carving out some time for yourself.

1236
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:58,160
Ooh, carving out like a waterfall through the cliff.

1237
00:54:58,160 --> 00:54:59,160
Yeah.

1238
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,160
Literally.

1239
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:08,280
Challenges in a relationship may have left, may have left you feeling drained or discouraged.

1240
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:15,640
Look within to discover your true needs and how you can restore balance.

1241
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,640
There's an extra excerpt here.

1242
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,880
Okay.

1243
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:24,040
Find clarity from doubt.

1244
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:31,360
In introduction to tarot, Susan Levitt writes, "Unfortunately, the mind is too often filled

1245
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,680
with worry, doubt and fear."

1246
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:41,720
More the mind absorbs information that has little to do with the soul's inner workings.

1247
00:55:41,720 --> 00:55:49,760
To counteract this, she recommends meditation, yoga, deep breathing, chanting, prayer, long

1248
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,760
walks and baths.

1249
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:52,760
A spa?

1250
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:53,760
I know.

1251
00:55:53,760 --> 00:56:03,960
Honestly, that just sounds like the perfect kind of retreat or vacation.

1252
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:04,960
Yeah.

1253
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:10,000
And there's a lot of space to walk around the land they are there.

1254
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,240
What was it saying about like?

1255
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:13,240
Yeah.

1256
00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:14,240
Okay.

1257
00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:15,240
So I'll read this again.

1258
00:56:15,240 --> 00:56:20,400
It says, "Unfortunately, the mind is too often filled with worry, doubt and fear."

1259
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:21,400
That's what I was thinking of.

1260
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:22,400
Yeah.

1261
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,280
So like, you know, it's probably not that haunted.

1262
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,240
You shouldn't worry about it or fear it.

1263
00:56:27,240 --> 00:56:30,040
You should just go and relax the spa.

1264
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,040
Mm-hmm.

1265
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:32,040
Yeah.

1266
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,040
Yeah.

1267
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:34,400
I think that's the only difference.

1268
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:35,720
That's what the tarot said.

1269
00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:36,720
Uh-huh.

1270
00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:39,120
It was in 2006, Caitlin.

1271
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,120
Uh-huh.

1272
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,120
Yeah.

1273
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:48,120
I'm not sure that's what the tarot was saying, but I guess we shall see.

1274
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:49,720
How many types of ghosts were there?

1275
00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:55,600
There was a dude, a woman, a child and a black mass.

1276
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:56,840
Yeah.

1277
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:02,440
I feel like lady in white also is sort of a separate archetype.

1278
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:03,440
Did I not say that?

1279
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:04,440
Yeah, the lady.

1280
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:05,440
You said like a woman.

1281
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:06,440
Yeah.

1282
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,440
I feel like a woman versus a lady in white.

1283
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:09,440
Oh, right out.

1284
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:10,440
To me.

1285
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:14,240
I guess there was technically like maybe two women, but I was going to count in them the same.

1286
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:15,240
But yeah.

1287
00:57:15,240 --> 00:57:16,240
Yeah.

1288
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,240
It seemed like there was like four-cut two.

1289
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:19,240
There.

1290
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:20,240
No, no, no.

1291
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:21,240
A few.

1292
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,480
Well, uh, we're drinking some CBD water.

1293
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:24,480
Oh, yeah.

1294
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:25,480
I almost forgot.

1295
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:26,480
Yeah.

1296
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:27,480
Sh.

1297
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:28,480
Tasty.

1298
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:29,480
Lavender mint.

1299
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:30,480
Yeah.

1300
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:31,480
I think it's it.

1301
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:32,400
Lavender mint.

1302
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:33,400
Yeah.

1303
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:34,640
Lavender mint lemonade.

1304
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:35,640
It's purple.

1305
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:36,640
It's pretty.

1306
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,640
It's from rogue.

1307
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:40,640
Yeah.

1308
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:41,640
She pretty.

1309
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:42,640
She tasty.

1310
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,880
Tastes like straight CBD.

1311
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:46,880
Mm-hmm.

1312
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,880
It's really good.

1313
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,880
I don't think CBD.

1314
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,680
I think maybe sometimes it has a little bit of a flavor, but the CBD can't taste it.

1315
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,560
No, I don't think so.

1316
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:57,960
Should we sign it off?

1317
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:58,960
Let's sign it off.

1318
00:57:58,960 --> 00:57:59,960
All right.

1319
00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:04,840
Have a creepy ass day.

1320
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:06,240
See you next Tuesday.

1321
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:07,240
See you next Tuesday.

1322
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,760
Unless you're at a spa.

1323
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:10,760
Yeah.

1324
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,200
And then maybe we'll see you sooner because that'd be fantastic.

1325
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:15,200
Yeah.

1326
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,240
Watch out for them black masses.

1327
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,800
I don't care for the troubles.

1328
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:39,600
How could you?

1329
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:40,600
I don't know.

1330
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:41,600
She's like, I don't know.

1331
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:42,600
I don't know.

1332
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:43,600
I don't know.

1333
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:44,600
Just look at her.

1334
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:45,600
Nothing to add to that.

1335
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Like, just, the bit is done.

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