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Dec. 24, 2024

Haunted Holidays: From Dickens to Hat Man

Haunted Holidays: From Dickens to Hat Man

This holiday season, we're reviving a spooky Victorian tradition: ghost stories by the fire! Ever wonder why scary tales were part of the holly-jolly festivities? In this episode, we dive into the history of Victorian Christmas ghost stories, from the...

This holiday season, we're reviving a spooky Victorian tradition: ghost stories by the fire! Ever wonder why scary tales were part of the holly-jolly festivities? In this episode, we dive into the history of Victorian Christmas ghost stories, from the influence of Queen Victoria to the rise of printed tales like Charles Dickens’ iconic A Christmas Carol.We also explore how America embraced a sweeter, less spooky holiday tradition and sidelined ghostly encounters to Halloween. But why not bring some eerie fun back to Christmas?

🎁 As a special gift, I’m sharing a chilling personal story I’ve never told before. It’s about an unforgettable experience I had as a child—a fiery night, an ominous silhouette, and the unexplainable quiet of a forest cabin. Was it the infamous Hat Man or something else entirely?

🎄 Tune in for historical trivia, holiday chills, and my firsthand brush with the paranormal. It’s the most wonderful time of the year… for ghost stories! 👻 

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🔗 Keywords: Victorian Christmas ghost stories, Hat Man encounter, Charles Dickens, A Christmas Carol, haunted cabins, spooky holiday traditions, paranormal history, holiday ghost tales.

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I'm sitting here looking at this thing and I'm like trying to figure out like what am I seeing?

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And so I remember trying to call down to my friend and wake her up and see her like she was seeing this too.

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I couldn't get her to wake up.

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Oh, which I feel like was kind of weird.

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Probably thankfully for her, I don't know. I don't know what would have happened.

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Yeah.

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If she did wake up.

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That's interesting.

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Oh, I love it.

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[CLAP] And scene.

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Oh, ho, ho.

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I'm out of Christmas clothes as we previously discussed.

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So I'm on to just whiskey, winter weather.

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Yeah, just winter weather.

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Yeah, it's winter vibes.

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Not everyone celebrates Christmas.

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It's fine.

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We don't have to be Christmasy every day in December.

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Right.

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Some people celebrate whiskey weather.

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Anyway, I did not run out of Christmas clothes.

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As you can see, I have two Christmas sweaters.

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One by me, one on me.

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I guess I should have asked to borrow one.

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I do have a Santa hat.

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I guess I could have put that on.

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Hi, Caitlyn.

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Hi, Cassie.

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Hi, creepy people.

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Hello.

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We just kind of started talking.

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No, we did.

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That's now we're starting.

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And here we are.

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Cheers.

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And then we'll start.

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Okay.

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We're real.

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We're real.

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Happy holidays.

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If you didn't know who we were, we're PNW Haunts and Homicides, where me and Caitlyn chat about true crime,

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the paranormal and all things spooky in the Pacific Northwest.

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That felt very pointed.

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I feel like she wants me to say something.

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It's PNW.

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If you're nasty.

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And you're nasty.

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And we know you are.

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And we also do a terror reading at the end of every episode for a little deeper insight into what we're talking about that day.

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And have a little fun.

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Have a little palette cleanser.

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So we have some business before we start our business.

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Do we?

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We do actually.

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And this has kind of been old one.

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I don't know if you guys remember Lori from the Portland Ghost Tours episode.

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That was our Halloween episodes.

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If you haven't watched it yet or listened to it, go back.

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It's really fun.

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Lori's a great storyteller and she gets so into it that she sometimes mistakes her words, which we do too.

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We say wrong words all the time.

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Don't even realize it, especially me.

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It's happened once or twice.

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So when she watched the episode, I got this text from Lori and she said, oh my God, the mirror from the Benson, the giant Benson.

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Is from France and she mistakenly said Germany, which I didn't even.

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Oh, and she said Austria.

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But she says it's from France.

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I can't believe I made that mistake.

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The building is the French Empire exterior.

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And the building was designed by a Portland architect that designed a mini iconic Portland buildings.

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So anyway, she wanted me to make that little correction for you guys, but got your storytelling was just so good that I don't think anyone would notice.

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And if you do and you're that nitpicky that someone just makes a little mistake, then.

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Get out of here.

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Get over yourself.

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And I will say too, whether it was, you know, a mirror that came from France, Germany or Austria, it's like.

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Well, that's like saying something is from like Washington state.

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It's like that's like our next door neighbor.

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It's, you know, not to say that it's like all the same or anything like that.

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I don't know geography.

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And there's been either there's like a plaque on it too.

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So if you go and actually visit it, you can read the plaque and you can, you know, do a little fact checking on everyone.

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Everyone you talk to if they give you a fact, which this did happen to me recently.

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And I repeated the fact on the show.

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And then I was like, wait, I'm going to Google that and I did.

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And it was totally wrong.

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So I cut it out.

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Really?

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Oh, we also have some Patreon shout outs.

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We do.

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Yeah, we have a few new Patreon members.

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Hi.

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Hello.

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Hello.

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First, we have Monica and Jan who subscribed for a year at the dollar tier.

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A whole year.

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A whole last year.

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A whole year of a year.

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A whole year of a year.

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Sorry about it.

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A whole year of crazy ass.

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Here is a.

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Don't subscribe.

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Didn't we have someone who recently like upgraded to.

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I created.

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Yes.

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Amy, right?

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Yes.

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I'm positive.

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It was Amy.

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Amy, if it wasn't you, then you don't even know what we're talking about.

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So it could be anybody that we're talking about.

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No, I think you're right because Amy also reached out because we sent a newsletter because

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we do that sometimes.

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Probably not enough to justify what we pay for the service that like helps us do that.

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But you would like to help us with newsletters.

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Please contact us.

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And we did say like if there are people that are interested in, you know, becoming Facebook

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admins or, you know, just different things that like they want to be involved in reach out

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to us.

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And I was like, I actually, I didn't think that we got any responses right away.

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And then I went back and looked like a week later and I was like, Oh my god, I feel so bad.

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I don't know how I didn't see this, but people did respond.

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Oh, yeah.

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We had people that.

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We have someone that's setting up a discord for us.

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That's so exciting.

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Because I have no clue.

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I went on there a couple of times for some other stuff and I was like, this, I don't understand.

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This is too much for me.

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I can't do this.

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I feel like I get it in theory, but also it's just one of those things where we've talked

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about this so many times.

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It's just, it's so time consuming to do like initial setup and, yeah.

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And you know, the other thing is we can't be in all places at the same time.

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So we're not Santa.

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You guys.

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Yeah.

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Hardly.

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We're Ho Ho Ho's, but we are not Santa.

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Ho Ho Ho Ho.

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And our next feature on Shoutout is very exciting.

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Just particularly because YouTube is kind of new-ish for us, but we had somebody that actually

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found us through YouTube.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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And is now subscribing at the, what is she think and I love it?

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I love it.

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And I love it at $20 for a month.

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Think with two C's.

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Think with two C's.

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Because there's two C's here.

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That's correct.

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I feel like I just did like the dog head tilt.

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Oh.

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Thank you, Lando.

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Thank you.

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I hope you enjoy all of the shenanigans.

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That happens on Patreon.

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Oh.

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And I also saw when I was on Patreon that you can gift people Patreon memberships.

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Yes.

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So if you need to get someone a Christmas present, get them a Patreon membership to our, what's

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it called?

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Our page.

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I don't know.

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I actually, I did send that out to our, um, all of our newsletter subscribers.

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Nice.

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I'm sure, and I'm sure like if you listen to literally any other podcast on God's green

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earth, everybody has been talking about it because this is something that both creators

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and people that like support them have been asking for four years.

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Like since before we ever started our own podcast.

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I could see why it's a good, like, a little gift.

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Like a unique type of gift that's not just like, oh, here's a gift card or something.

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Like if you find out someone's favorite podcast.

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I feel like that's something where, you know, people talk about different, I mean, whether

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it's a podcast or a different type of creator that like, oh, I really like this.

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That's such a thoughtful, like thing to be able to say.

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Oh, now you like get their, you know, whatever their bonus content is.

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I think it's cool.

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I think so too.

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You are interested in gifting a Patreon membership to someone or I don't know, I think you could

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probably technically use it for yourself.

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Creepy person in your life that might be you.

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I'm creepy as a cult coming from inside the house.

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It is.

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It almost always is.

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I will go ahead and get the link over to our show notes so that we can let people know

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how to use that, how to do it.

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Do the things.

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Do it.

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Do it.

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Be like Lando.

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And Monica and Jan and everyone else who's on our Patreon, we love you.

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Thank you so much.

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I don't know if we say it enough, but thank you so much.

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I know.

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It's really awesome.

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This is hard and we need your help.

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So thank you.

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I know.

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And you know what?

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I will try to stay on track and like actually do our show after this, but this is our

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But I do think that now we're kind of getting to a number of Patreons and people are sort

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of getting.

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Now people are finding us on YouTube and there's a lot of things that you can do to support

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creators through like the other platforms.

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But I think it's probably time to get our heads together and think about some Patreon

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goals and some different like rewards and things that we can do.

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Like when we reach certain numbers of members, I have some ideas.

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We've been done a giveaway and I wish to give away.

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While I was thinking that for sure.

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Yeah.

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Stay tuned.

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Always, stay tuned always.

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Just do it.

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Remember when we ask people, just play it constantly even if you're not listening to it.

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But well, speaking of Patreon and gifts and things that we send people for free because we love

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you and you're giving us money so you send you stuff for free.

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We had a story from one of my friends, Jessica, who is a Patreon member who told me something

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that happened with the spell jars.

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Oh, stop it!

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Yeah.

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Our spell jars!?

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So if you guys didn't know, if you're super new, we sometimes will send, we'll put together

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a little spell jars with a certain purpose.

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Like we've done a good luck one.

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A, what was the other one, self-love one?

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Yeah.

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I think those are the two we've done.

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Yeah, those are the two we've done so far.

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And then we send them to you guys just, you know, see how a little something, something

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fun and witchy and cool.

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Yeah.

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And this was one of the good luck spell jars.

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Okay.

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And I will read you.

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She sent me this little story in a text message.

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I did have to redact some information.

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Okay.

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That's fair.

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Just because, well, you'll see.

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I'm so excited.

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Yeah.

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Because I don't, I know I told you this at the time.

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I don't know if you remember.

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We had someone that was not a member of the Patreon yet, but has since become one, what

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up?

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Hey, I think, I think you'll know who I'm talking about.

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Okay.

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Hi, Sam.

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Hi, Sam.

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Hi, Sam.

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Um, he actually reached out to us when we started talking about the spell jars that we sent

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out and he said, can I buy one?

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Oh, yeah.

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He's like, I want to become a member of the Patreon, but I just, you know, I'm not ready yet.

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But like if it's a one time thing, can I do that?

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And we were like, I guess so.

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Like, I don't see why not.

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Yeah.

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So.

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Yeah.

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If you want a spell jar, I'll hit us up.

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Oh, I was thinking about starting a netsy shop.

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Yeah.

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I don't know how that works.

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So that seems like a lot of work.

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It really does.

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We'll figure it out.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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So Jessica's driving in her car and she says, I had a close encounter due to my poor judgment

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of distance.

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It's happened to me a lot.

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Yeah.

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And I thought for sure the other car was going to slam into my rear.

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That's what she said.

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And somehow the car and I were safe.

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So this has happened to me before because I have like my little bat protector, my bat

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being in my car.

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That is just like my, I say it's my protector.

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Yeah.

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This has happened to me so many times where I think, like I'm for sure getting hit.

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Like it's in my car.

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I don't know.

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And then it doesn't hit me.

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Don't know how it happens.

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But we both have something that hangs from our rear view mirror.

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That is like our little like kind of protector thing.

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Maybe that should be our next Patreon gift.

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I was seeing like a protection jar.

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Yeah.

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I don't know if you necessarily want that hanging from your mirror.

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Maybe.

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I just feel like sometimes go ask and like if it swings and I don't know.

334
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Yeah.

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We're in a noodle on it.

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Stay tuned.

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Stay tuned.

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I'm going to stop saying that I swear.

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So she goes on to say my instant thought was that it must have been the good luck spell

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jar.

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Like well, dirt.

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So that's your first thought like if that's the first thing you think of then yes, that

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is it.

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Like that's your intuition talking to you, right?

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Yeah.

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I think you know, your first instinct is usually correct.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And then so she had me make her another one.

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Oh.

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Because she was like, well, then I want to like keep one.

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I want one with me all the time.

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There's one in the car and one with me all the time.

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I love it.

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I love it.

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So she says, when you gave me the second one, I put it in the car's glove compartment

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and the other one is in my backpack.

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So it's always with me.

359
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Okay.

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So the back windshield got smashed at a trail head.

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Well, they were parked in the I think in the parking lot.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Like a trail head parking lot.

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So like that's not good.

366
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Obviously, that's not very good luck.

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But it could have been a lot worse because there were wallets in the redacted because I

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don't want you guys to know where they hide their wallet.

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I knew it.

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But they were left unfound and they only stole a cooler full of beer, a bike pump and some

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used deodorant.

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So like they don't really get like the beer sucks.

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You got to get your window fixed.

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But that's some of the insurance is for them assuming.

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Yeah.

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I mean, as someone who has been through the same thing, it's not great.

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But you can have that fixed for like, you know, depending on your car and where you live

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and all that.

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And maybe a couple hundred bucks tops.

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Yeah.

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Not great.

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Well, that would suck if they also found like the wallets and anything else you might have

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had in your car that was worth anything.

384
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Exactly.

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I think it did work.

386
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Uh huh.

387
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And it was just a little guy.

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So like, I don't know maybe I need to make her like a mason jar.

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Seriously.

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She needs like the big girl size.

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But you know, it's not all about size.

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It's about intention.

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It's true.

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You know, what you do with it.

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Coming for me, that's funny.

396
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You should not be ocean or something about that.

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I was like, cushion for the push and I was like, wait, that's not even that's not even what

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that means at all.

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That's not at all related.

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That's what I know.

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I got that cushion.

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But if anyone has any other stories with their spell jars, if you have some good luck

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with it, if you have more self love because of it, I love myself love spell jar.

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It's my favorite.

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It's by my bed and I just look at it.

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You have one too.

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I have like a teeny teeny winy one.

408
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Yeah.

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You have one of the bigger girl sizes.

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Yeah.

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And then I wrote, maybe we should do a straight up protections bell jar next time.

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That's so crazy.

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Because we're always telling people to be safe too.

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Yeah.

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So I think protection is probably coming.

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I have so much black salt in preparation for this.

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Do you?

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So much.

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I love it because you know, I love nothing more than a nice fire and we've been doing

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them nightly.

421
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Yeah.

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Nightly and ever so rightly.

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Yeah, I think it's fun to just like take the ashes and just mishmash minds usually like

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incense ashes.

425
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Oh, yeah.

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And then I add glitter to it because it's more fun with glitter.

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Adorable.

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Chris is like, can you do this outside?

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My husband would be like, this seems like an outdoor project.

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But it's glitter inside of black salt.

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So it's fine.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's not as glittery, you know?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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I'll let you explain that to him.

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Well, should we get into some some holly jolliness?

439
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Why do I feel like is that a euphemism?

440
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No.

441
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Yeah.

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Also, I'm going to talk about a different song.

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So that was kind of stupid.

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So like the song, it's the most wonderful time of the year says it's time for scary ghost

445
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stories.

446
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What?

447
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No, scary ghost stories and something else in it.

448
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I only know the scary ghost story part.

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It doesn't know.

450
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It's in the song.

451
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Okay.

452
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But I don't think they mean it like.

453
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Oh, no, they mean it.

454
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They mean it.

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Because I'm like, but wait, why are we trying to scare people during the hollyous jollyous

456
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season?

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Yeah.

458
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I feel like it begs the question.

459
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Well, I'll tell you why.

460
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Okay.

461
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Because I did a little research on Wax.

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So it's very curious.

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So thought that during the Victorian era, which is from 1837 to 1901.

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And I googled that when Queen Victoria ruled Great Britain and Ireland, which I'm not going

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to know, I've heard the term like Victorian era before.

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I did not relate it to like that was the person literally ruling.

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Cassie.

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This bitch is iconic.

469
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She's the reason people wear white wedding dresses.

470
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Really?

471
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Yeah.

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Wasn't really a thing before her.

473
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Oh, well, thanks for nothing.

474
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I mean, people just loved it so much.

475
00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,320
It just like she is like the original influencer.

476
00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:21,320
That's so cool.

477
00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:22,320
Yeah.

478
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That's so funny.

479
00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,520
You said that because I just watched the Martha Stewart documentary and she is like the

480
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original influencer.

481
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Yes.

482
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I haven't finished it yet, but I was literally thinking about it as I tied our Christmasy

483
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bow on the wine bottle because I was like, show it.

484
00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,160
So it's like such a Martha Stewart.

485
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It's such a Martha Stewart moment.

486
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What really is?

487
00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:48,360
I mean, it's not probably the most Martha Stewart effort with the bow.

488
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I'm sure she would ridicule you for that.

489
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The thing I learned about Martha is a bitch.

490
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It's like fine for like dudes to be rude and stuff, but it's like automatically a woman

491
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is a bitch.

492
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But like to me, it's not okay to be rude and like demeaning and demoralizing to people.

493
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Yeah.

494
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So like I have respect for her, but she's not the nice person.

495
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:15,440
No, I mean, she really is just like objectively like kind of not a nice person.

496
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Yeah.

497
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:23,480
And yeah, I do think we definitely give more of a pass to a man for sure, you know?

498
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So it's like it's frustrating on like that side of the token, but also like, okay, just

499
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don't be a dick.

500
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Yeah.

501
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But it's hard because she was like raised the way she was raised.

502
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It was like not great.

503
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And yeah.

504
00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:40,720
So anyway, lots of struggles, but yeah, but she is who she is.

505
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Everybody got problems.

506
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,800
I don't think she deserved what she got.

507
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,880
Some people got 99 of them in a bitch ain't one.

508
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:48,880
You know?

509
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:49,880
Yeah.

510
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Just saying.

511
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Anyway, watch the documentary.

512
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It was good.

513
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Yeah.

514
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I want to finish it.

515
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:55,880
You should finish it.

516
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:56,880
You have to finish it.

517
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,640
I have to know what happens.

518
00:20:58,640 --> 00:20:59,640
Obviously.

519
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:00,640
Okay.

520
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,120
So Victoria, she was the queen.

521
00:21:03,120 --> 00:21:05,920
She was the it girl.

522
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,880
She was literally it.

523
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:08,880
I wrote history.

524
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:09,880
Am I right?

525
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:10,880
Her story.

526
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:11,880
Her story.

527
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:12,880
Her story.

528
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,560
Any who's all as Caitlin was saying.

529
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,600
During this time, there wasn't electricity, I guess.

530
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,680
I mean, certainly not widespread.

531
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,200
That's what the research told me.

532
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,200
Yeah.

533
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,920
So during the winter, people were obviously going to be hanging around the fireplace.

534
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,200
It's dark.

535
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:36,760
It's a naturally spooky environment that kind of lends well to telling scary stories.

536
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:37,760
Ooh.

537
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,600
And what, you know, get a cozy up to your lover.

538
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,280
Whatever and get spooky.

539
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,800
A lot of people were also not able to read at this point in time.

540
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:53,400
So these are mostly like oral stories and local stories too, that people were telling.

541
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:54,400
Sure.

542
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,400
Yeah.

543
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,400
That makes sense.

544
00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,920
As time went on, more and more people were learning to read and things like the steam-powered

545
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,760
printing press were allowing for cheaper, faster printing.

546
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:09,000
Also Christmas was starting to be more widely celebrated in general.

547
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:13,480
So people decided to put their oral traditions into print for Christmas.

548
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:14,480
So people could read.

549
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:15,480
So people could read.

550
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,480
What a bunch of nerds.

551
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,880
But they're reading scary stories.

552
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,520
So that makes them like unnerdy immediately.

553
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:23,520
Like cool nerds.

554
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,120
Cool nerds, yeah.

555
00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:26,880
Which to be honest, all nerds are cool.

556
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:27,880
Yeah.

557
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:28,880
Who are we getting?

558
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:29,880
Nerds are cool.

559
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,120
We love you guys, because we are you.

560
00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:32,120
We are you.

561
00:22:32,120 --> 00:22:33,120
We are you.

562
00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:36,520
You ever heard of one, uh, Charles Dickens?

563
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:37,520
Charles.

564
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:38,520
Charles.

565
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,000
Charlie's gonna bust in here, thinking we're calling him.

566
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,760
Well, he's laying on his bed right now.

567
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:43,760
Oh, he's in here?

568
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:44,760
Oh, yeah.

569
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:45,760
Charlie.

570
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:51,200
He looks like, uh, like an English author right now, because he has on his little kind of,

571
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,440
uh, it's like a plaid jacket.

572
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,240
He kind of looks like he's, um, about to make tenure.

573
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,240
You should take a picture of him so we can insert it.

574
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,240
Okay.

575
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:07,160
So in case you didn't know who Charles, this, this Charles Dickens guy is, he wrote, and

576
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:13,280
I don't think I'm going out on a limb by saying the most popular holiday season ghost story,

577
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:14,280
a Christmas Carol.

578
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:15,280
Okay.

579
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,280
Yeah.

580
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:17,360
That's probably fair.

581
00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:19,240
Where Ebeneez is Scrooge.

582
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,240
Ebeneez.

583
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,240
Ebeneez.

584
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,240
Ebeneez.

585
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,240
Get on your knees.

586
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,240
Yeah.

587
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:32,520
Anyways, where Ebeneez or Scrooge gets visited by three ghosts on Christmas Eve.

588
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,240
And obviously it's not strictly a spooky tale.

589
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,640
It does incorporate the heartfelt life lessons and warm fuzzies.

590
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,480
I grab my boobs and I say, yeah, my, they are warm.

591
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,600
They are fuzzy.

592
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:46,600
Mine are fuzzy.

593
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,000
Oh, well, you got a fuzzy.

594
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,000
Yeah.

595
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,480
That makes so sweaty right now.

596
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,160
Are you, are you too warm?

597
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,760
I'm like moist.

598
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:54,760
Oh.

599
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,880
Yeah, because that's like a polyester blend.

600
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,280
So I bet you're real.

601
00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,280
Yeah.

602
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,960
It's holding all of your juices in.

603
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,560
I'm just trying to sweat out the toxins, you guys.

604
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:04,560
Yeah.

605
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:05,560
So much toxins.

606
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,880
I got to be pure for Santa, okay?

607
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,320
Like the driven snow.

608
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,680
Yeah, that's me.

609
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:15,680
Yeah.

610
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:22,400
Okay, so warm fuzzies, which is how the US largely likes their holiday stories.

611
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,400
True.

612
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,400
Like super hallmark.

613
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,160
I just watched the funniest fucking movie.

614
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,160
It's on Netflix.

615
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,280
I don't know if it's hallmark or not, but it's called Hot Frosty.

616
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,280
Hot.

617
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,880
Oh boy.

618
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:42,560
It's kind of like Frosty, the snowman, where a very sexy snowman comes to life.

619
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,360
I don't remember that being part of it.

620
00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:48,760
It's, yeah, well, it's a new version of Frosty, the snowman.

621
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:49,760
Okay.

622
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,560
Hot Frosty, it's like trash holiday, but it's like so good, you know?

623
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:54,640
Yeah, very kids.

624
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:55,640
Very kids.

625
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,080
And is that the one?

626
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,960
There was one that, you know, that girl that was in mean girls.

627
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,560
Like in all the hallmark movies.

628
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:04,560
Regina.

629
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,200
Oh, she's got the brown hair.

630
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,720
I forget which one she plays.

631
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:10,720
Hmm.

632
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:11,720
Okay.

633
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:12,960
I might have to investigate this.

634
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:19,200
I do not partake in a lot of like the hallmark Christmas movies.

635
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,280
It's like historically not been one of like my guilty pleasures.

636
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,280
Yeah.

637
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,040
I generally don't either if it's on Netflix though.

638
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,040
Yeah.

639
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,040
I'll probably watch it.

640
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,040
Yeah.

641
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,040
It just depends.

642
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:31,880
Yeah.

643
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:37,880
So however believe that it should be a Christmas tradition for my family, hopefully

644
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:45,080
they're watching and listening to watch the Shark Nito where Santa is involved.

645
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,080
Yeah.

646
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,920
I've never seen any of those movies.

647
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:48,920
Yeah.

648
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,000
I hadn't either.

649
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:55,800
But also in that movie, one of the main characters is named Cody.

650
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,560
And I was going to say does your brother make you watch this during?

651
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:00,560
No.

652
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,360
I don't really care for this.

653
00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:04,360
Okay.

654
00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:09,200
So if you're not familiar with the lore, at some point we just asked my brother is, I don't

655
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:14,440
think currently, but as a child, he was very like adamant that sharks were like our

656
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,440
friends.

657
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,720
That's the long and the short of it.

658
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:18,720
Yeah.

659
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:24,160
This was during lockdown and it didn't take much to entertain us at that point, but I could

660
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,800
have pissed my pants laughing.

661
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,960
Look at a light, you know.

662
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,200
I'm going to have to watch that now.

663
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,000
You have to let me know which one it is.

664
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,120
So anyway, this chick was in Mean Girls.

665
00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:35,320
She is in a lot of Hallmark movies now.

666
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:40,120
And so is Lindsay Lohan is in like these Netflix, like cheesy movies.

667
00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:41,720
Oh, I thought Hallmark.

668
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:42,720
Okay.

669
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:43,720
Okay.

670
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:44,720
Like Hallmark, I don't know.

671
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:45,720
Okay.

672
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,000
It's like Hallmark-esque, but not Hallmark channel.

673
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,280
There are Hallmark movies on Netflix though.

674
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,920
And I can't, I don't know if who's making them.

675
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,600
If it's Hallmark or Netflix, I don't know.

676
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,040
But it's, you know, that type of like cheesy vibe Christmas movie.

677
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,360
And Lindsay Lohan is in a few of those now.

678
00:27:00,360 --> 00:27:01,360
Oh, okay.

679
00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:03,840
Well, they showed a clip from one of the Lindsay Lohan.

680
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,360
It was like a commercial inside of this movie.

681
00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:13,000
And she's, they're flipping through the channels and she's like in, in one of these movies

682
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,400
on the TV in this hot, frosty movie.

683
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,400
Oh, boy.

684
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,600
And the girl was like, oh, she looks like someone I went to high school with and I was like,

685
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,240
Mean Girl reference.

686
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,240
I know her.

687
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,240
Oh my God.

688
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,240
It was so cute.

689
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,760
But it was like so like inception.

690
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,560
It was like so many different things inside this one scene.

691
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,560
Yeah, a little bit of an Easter egg.

692
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,040
Yeah, it was so cute.

693
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,040
I love that.

694
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,000
That's totally, you know, we're talking about Christmas.

695
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,000
I had to tell that.

696
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,320
I was going to say speaking of the birth of Christ.

697
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,280
Lindsay Lohan, the resurrection.

698
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,280
Yeah.

699
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,800
You get, you know, anyways.

700
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:48,800
Yes, I don't.

701
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:49,800
I don't.

702
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:50,800
Well, because, okay.

703
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,680
So Christmas in theory is, you know, about the birth of Christ.

704
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,680
Right.

705
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,920
Easter is related to Easter eggs.

706
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,760
I didn't even did not even put together that Easter egg.

707
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,280
It says the word Easter because I'm so used to using.

708
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,280
Easter egg means something totally different.

709
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,960
It's like something Taylor Swiftie to me now.

710
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:11,960
Right.

711
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:12,960
Right.

712
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,000
Or like, you know, like a streamer or a gamer term.

713
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,160
It's not at all religious.

714
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,160
No.

715
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,640
Typically, that's so funny.

716
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,400
Well, I mean, either our Easter eggs, if you think about it, like, what?

717
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,200
It comes out of a bunny's butt.

718
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,200
So like, what?

719
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,200
I'm sorry.

720
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,000
I don't know that we ever established that, but...

721
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,720
The bunny poofs a metal decorated.

722
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,960
Isn't that how that works?

723
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,720
I think we probably need to move on, but we're going to circle back to that.

724
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,320
Let's talk about the city's time.

725
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:44,320
Okay.

726
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,320
Okay.

727
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,280
That's fair.

728
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,600
So we talked about how the US likes their hallmark holiday type movies where it's all

729
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,240
just warm, fuzzy and...

730
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,240
Yeah.

731
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,240
So it's just a little bit more predictable and easy.

732
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,240
Imagine this.

733
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,160
Well, the British had tons of different ghost stories.

734
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,960
But the only one that really stuck in America was a Christmas Carol.

735
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:05,960
Okay.

736
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,680
Mainly because it was such...

737
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,680
It was just such a popular story.

738
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:10,680
Yeah.

739
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:11,680
It was basically a staple.

740
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,360
So it kind of just like, we can't stay up here as well.

741
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,200
But not all of the other ghost stories.

742
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,200
Just this one.

743
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,200
Well, I mean, it's classic.

744
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,520
It's got like a very timeless message, I think.

745
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:24,520
Yeah.

746
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,520
And I don't know.

747
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,840
I didn't look into the history of Charles Dickens.

748
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,960
I don't know if he was already pretty famous or not, but he became obviously a well-known

749
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:32,960
writer.

750
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:33,960
Yeah.

751
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:34,960
Not sure.

752
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,960
I will point in his trajectory.

753
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:43,760
I didn't pull at that ugly Christmas sweater thread.

754
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:48,200
So Americans weren't really interested in having the paranormal invade their sickeningly

755
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,240
sweet holidays.

756
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,000
Very sacri-

757
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:57,120
And plus we already had this little holiday for ghosts called Halloween Halloween that we

758
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,320
already started celebrating apparently.

759
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,480
Anyone.

760
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:06,760
So basically we did what Americans do and we kind of categorize everything and we said,

761
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,760
okay, ghosts belong to Halloween and they can't be in Christmas.

762
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,760
Bid, bid, bid, bid.

763
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:13,760
Only Halloween.

764
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,600
Because we like to put things in little boxes and people can't go outside the boxes.

765
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,400
I think that's a very human nature thing.

766
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:27,640
I think some cultures maybe more or less, but just go eat, put it on Americans, okay?

767
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:28,640
Yeah.

768
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,320
I mean, you're not wrong.

769
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,880
I'm one of them, so I'm pooping on myself with fun.

770
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:34,880
Wow.

771
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,160
I try not to put things in boxes though.

772
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,160
Yeah.

773
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,160
Unless it's a dick.

774
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,160
That's right.

775
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,160
Classic.

776
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,160
That's like a Christmas song, dick and a ball?

777
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,160
It is.

778
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,160
Because it's like a box.

779
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,160
It's like a present.

780
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,160
Yeah.

781
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,160
We're so themy.

782
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,160
I can't.

783
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,160
Very themy.

784
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaking of like, fuck Americans, right?

785
00:30:53,400 --> 00:31:01,080
Let's change this sickeningly sweet storytelling and let's tell some fucking scary ghost stories

786
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,080
for Christmas.

787
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,080
All right.

788
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,800
First of all, I'd like to issue a correction because I feel like maybe it's a little bit more

789
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,080
fuck capitalism than Americans, but like, you know.

790
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,640
Yeah, that's true.

791
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:13,640
Everyone knows what I mean.

792
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,880
I just mean I literally want to fuck everyone.

793
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:17,880
Ooh.

794
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:18,880
Oh.

795
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:19,880
Oh.

796
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:20,880
Oh.

797
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:21,880
Oh.

798
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:22,880
Oh.

799
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,480
So my gift to all of you this year.

800
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,960
Well, she said I didn't wrap it.

801
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,800
But I have a scary ghost story of my own that I've never told.

802
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:33,800
Woo.

803
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,360
And this is my gift to you guys.

804
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,360
I love it.

805
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,640
Because you know, I don't really have ghost experiences.

806
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,840
I have like one or two.

807
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,600
No, because you want it too badly.

808
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:43,600
Yeah.

809
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,760
And then I had all that, you know, the sleep paralysis stuff.

810
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:52,120
When I was little, if you haven't listened to our sleep paralysis episode, it's way back.

811
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:57,720
But I tell kind of my spooky experiences, but they're not really like ghost stories.

812
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:58,720
Yeah.

813
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,600
I pretty much only have like one ghost story.

814
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,000
And this is it.

815
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,000
I'm so excited.

816
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,000
I know me too.

817
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,280
And I was thinking I was like, wait, I didn't tell this, right?

818
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:09,280
I don't remember.

819
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,280
If I did, just forget.

820
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,040
And then I'll tell you again.

821
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,040
Yeah.

822
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,200
But I'm pretty sure I haven't because I was like saving it.

823
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,240
Yeah, I was going to say, I feel like I'd remember this.

824
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,240
Yeah.

825
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,480
I think I've mentioned it once or twice too.

826
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,480
Like I have a story.

827
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,000
I'm like, waiting for the right time.

828
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,000
The buildup.

829
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,000
Okay.

830
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,680
And I didn't want to do any research.

831
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,240
So, you know, this is the right time.

832
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,240
Yeah, there you go.

833
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,280
I needed an easy, an easy A.

834
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,880
Yeah.

835
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:42,880
So I had this experience and I was pretty young, I think eight or nine.

836
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:43,880
Okay.

837
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:44,880
It's a great set of stories.

838
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:45,880
Yeah.

839
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:51,800
So since I had so much sleep paralysis as a kid, I kind of, I think I always just assumed this

840
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:52,800
was that.

841
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,120
This was just like a sleep paralysis thing.

842
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,600
But it's different.

843
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,920
So different from any other of the experiences I've ever had.

844
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:01,920
Okay.

845
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:07,160
So yeah, I was like eight or nine and I was staying with my family at a friend's.

846
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,000
It was like a cabin type house.

847
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,040
Like kind of in the woods, like in the woods, you know?

848
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,040
Yeah.

849
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,040
It was in like the city woods.

850
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,040
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

851
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,040
Yeah.

852
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,720
And me and my friend, she was like two years younger than me.

853
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,160
We were sleeping in bunk beds and naturally I was on the top bunk.

854
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,040
So much room for activities.

855
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,400
We did so many activities.

856
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,720
I don't remember any of them, but I'm sure we did so many.

857
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:30,720
They were incredible.

858
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:31,720
No doubt.

859
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:32,720
Because we were always together.

860
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,240
She was like my sister growing up.

861
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,240
Oh, the door.

862
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,240
No.

863
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:37,760
Lovey Chrissy.

864
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,120
I don't know if I ever told her about this.

865
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,440
And she was in the room.

866
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:42,440
So I can't remember.

867
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,440
Yeah.

868
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,040
I can't remember if I told her about it or not.

869
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,400
So if she is listening, this might be new information for her.

870
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,800
Like God, I tell you about everything spooky that happens to me whether or not you're in

871
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:53,800
the room.

872
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:54,800
Yeah.

873
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:55,800
Now I would.

874
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,440
But then because I didn't tell anyone about my sleep paralysis stuff ever.

875
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,440
Yeah.

876
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,280
So I just don't think I would have told her.

877
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,280
I'm not really sure.

878
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,280
Yeah.

879
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,040
It was so long ago.

880
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,600
So we were sleeping in this room.

881
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:14,600
And I remember waking up and I think it was the middle of the night.

882
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:15,600
Not really sure.

883
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:16,600
There wasn't a clock.

884
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:17,600
I was a kid who knows.

885
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,840
It was dark from what it felt like.

886
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,920
It felt like the middle of the night.

887
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:30,200
But I wake up and I kind of like see this like bright orange like flickering light.

888
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,480
And I think that's why I woke up and it was like coming from the window.

889
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,800
So there was like a window I could see from the bunk bed.

890
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,920
I think it was just I was like laying like this.

891
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,040
I could see the window straight.

892
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,760
And it was like flickering orange.

893
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,080
So I opened my eyes.

894
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:51,000
And this is like the first thing that's wrong because I never opened my eyes when I'm having

895
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,000
sleep paralysis.

896
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,000
I don't know why.

897
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,000
I see things.

898
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,160
I like see crazy shit.

899
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,440
But it's like I can feel my eyes are closed.

900
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,840
So like I still know.

901
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:00,840
Yeah.

902
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,120
I know I'm kind of sleeping.

903
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,120
Yeah.

904
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,960
Because I feel like most people explain.

905
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,640
There's like a certain amount of like awareness of your own body.

906
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:15,840
You like yeah, I feel like most people report that they're very aware like oh no.

907
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,880
I mean this in between.

908
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,600
I'm not in control of my body.

909
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:20,600
But I'm yes.

910
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:21,600
Yes.

911
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:22,600
But you can't wear it.

912
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,440
Some people do open their eyes and they do see stuff like.

913
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:26,440
No.

914
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:27,440
Like actually hallucinate.

915
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,800
We've talked we if you need to go back and learn more about it.

916
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,280
There is a whole episode on it.

917
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,280
I think I'm good.

918
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,720
But yeah, one of my things with mine is I was either I couldn't open my eyes and I was like

919
00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:43,000
half dreaming half awake or I was like fully awake, but I was just too scared to open my

920
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,000
eyes.

921
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,800
But this was just like waking up in the middle of the night and I see a flickering light

922
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:52,160
and I open my eyes and then I I'm looking at the window.

923
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,280
I like sit up and I again, I'm sitting up.

924
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,280
So I move.

925
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:57,280
I'm not.

926
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,280
Okay.

927
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,280
So you're very much awake.

928
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:00,280
Yeah.

929
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,680
And even like in a sleep paralysis dream.

930
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,480
I still can't move in the dream.

931
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,560
So like this is just like not I never realized it's just like completely different from any

932
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,360
sleep paralysis I've ever had.

933
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,720
And I'm looking at the window where the light is coming from and it looks like fire.

934
00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:19,160
Like it's like flickering and moving like that orange light.

935
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,120
Like it just looks like fire.

936
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:29,480
And there's a silhouette of a man or I feel I don't know how to describe it, but I just

937
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,000
feel like it was like a younger male, like not a man.

938
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,000
Okay.

939
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:40,720
It was either like a adolescent like a teenage boy, maybe young adult.

940
00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:46,000
I don't really know why I felt like that because it was just like the silhouette, like

941
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,000
a black shadow.

942
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:54,920
Like I couldn't see the face or make out really anything else other than I could see

943
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,920
like the shape of his hat.

944
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,800
And it was just like he had like a square on his head.

945
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,240
Like not a tall, not like a top, not like a Lincoln.

946
00:37:05,240 --> 00:37:06,240
No.

947
00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:08,240
A Lincoln, like a car.

948
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:11,240
No, not a car on his head.

949
00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:17,960
Listen, I understood fully how little I should trust this person as soon as they were.

950
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:18,960
Okay.

951
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,000
I mean, number one, this situation is already bonks, but then they're wearing a hat.

952
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,400
And I'm like, I'm out.

953
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,400
I'm out.

954
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:26,400
Okay.

955
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,400
Right?

956
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,120
I just, I don't, I see hat man and I didn't even know what my whole life.

957
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,160
I don't trust a hat.

958
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,120
Like I didn't even know about hat man then.

959
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,120
You know?

960
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,120
Yeah.

961
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,120
Like I did.

962
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,120
I was watching ghost stuff.

963
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,120
I'm sure at the time, but I don't know if I knew about it.

964
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,920
I think you knew about hat man though.

965
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:48,200
And also like this hat didn't seem like any, it doesn't really seem like anything I'd

966
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,600
really heard about hat man wearing.

967
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,760
Usually like it's like a different type of hat I feel like.

968
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:53,760
Okay.

969
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,400
There are different stories of different hats.

970
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,600
But this just wasn't, it wasn't when I really associated with hat man.

971
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,120
So I don't, I still don't know.

972
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,240
Obviously, don't know what happened.

973
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:03,240
Yeah.

974
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:05,560
Hashtag never trust a hat.

975
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:11,360
But so when I started trying to like figure out what this hat, what like, why is he just,

976
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,000
it kind of just look like a box on his head, right?

977
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,960
Oh, that's so bizarre.

978
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:16,960
It was interesting.

979
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,800
So I started, I think I was listening to another episode about hat man and they mentioned

980
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:29,120
like a civil war hat and I was like, well, what does civil war hat look like?

981
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,080
And so I Google it.

982
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,960
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

983
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:39,200
and there's kind of like cowboy hat type things.

984
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:44,880
There's kind of stuff with like a bill, but there's also these like other hats called

985
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:51,480
Kepis.

986
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,000
Kind of like if you're wearing that, you can't really see the bill.

987
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,000
Yeah.

988
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:02,480
It's this hat that like, we'll post pictures obviously and like add pictures to the video,

989
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,640
but it does look like kind of just like a square on your head.

990
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:11,040
Like there's a bill, but you wouldn't be able to really see that if it's a silhouette.

991
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,560
It would literally just look like a square.

992
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:14,560
Yeah.

993
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:21,120
And that's, I didn't really think about because I, my whole life, I've been like, well, what

994
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,240
that was like a weird hat and it wasn't like a failure hat.

995
00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:29,040
It wasn't like anything I was really thinking of, but obviously I never, when you're thinking

996
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,600
about that kind of thing, you're probably not like on your computer ready to Google it.

997
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:33,600
Yeah.

998
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:34,600
Yeah.

999
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,440
Well, it's different from even just like a baseball cap.

1000
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,440
You know what I mean?

1001
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,440
It's, I don't know, it's strange.

1002
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:46,520
And it wasn't like, I was thinking like page boy hats or kind of, but they're also kind

1003
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,000
of like lumpy and like clop.

1004
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,160
This was like really like, I felt like really straight.

1005
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,160
Yeah.

1006
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,160
I don't know.

1007
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,760
So I feel like that was the kind of hat.

1008
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,840
Like I can't think of any other hat.

1009
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:07,000
And like, I'd never heard of another story that was specifically said like a Civil War type

1010
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,000
hat.

1011
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,000
Yeah.

1012
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,880
And I think like both sides were them.

1013
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,320
I don't know like which side it would have been.

1014
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,720
But I think that was just of the time.

1015
00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:16,720
Yeah.

1016
00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:21,120
But I don't think people wore like normal people didn't wear hats like this.

1017
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,400
Really?

1018
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,640
I think so.

1019
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,520
Like I said, I think that was just of the time.

1020
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:29,520
Okay.

1021
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:34,280
So just quick like AI overview.

1022
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,280
No.

1023
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:42,280
I think that was just like the time when I was in the Civil War.

1024
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:47,280
I think that was just like the time when I was in the Civil War type.

1025
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,280
I think that was just like the time when I was in the Civil War type.

1026
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,280
I think that was just like the time when I was in the Civil War type.

1027
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,280
I think that was just like the time when I was in the Civil War type.

1028
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,280
I think that was just like the time when I was in the Civil War type.

1029
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,280
It was like a military hat.

1030
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:10,280
And they did come from like I think like the Russian military or something.

1031
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,280
There are like taller hats that were like more formally.

1032
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:15,280
Yeah.

1033
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,280
Yeah.

1034
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:17,280
Yeah.

1035
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,960
They're kepties were like a little bit more different.

1036
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:20,960
It wasn't like that.

1037
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,760
So it was definitely like one of these Civil War era.

1038
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:25,760
Interesting.

1039
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:31,000
I just assumed that was like kind of the style of hats at that point in history.

1040
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,000
Yeah.

1041
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,120
Yeah, I guess not.

1042
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:38,000
So we kind of figured out I guess what kind of hat, which was like really...

1043
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,000
Yeah.

1044
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,000
I don't know.

1045
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,000
It was crazy to me when I actually found it.

1046
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,000
So I was like, oh, like that's probably what I was seeing.

1047
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,000
Yeah.

1048
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,120
It was just weird because I never really looked into it.

1049
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:53,880
So yeah, again, all I was seeing was like this black shadow silhouette couldn't make out

1050
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,920
anything except for it did look like the longer I looked it.

1051
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,320
It looked like there was fire behind him.

1052
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,120
It's crazy.

1053
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,120
Yeah.

1054
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,440
It was so creepy.

1055
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,440
He was facing me.

1056
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,680
It looked like he was just staring like straight in the window.

1057
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:08,680
Ooh.

1058
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,000
And I think it was like a...

1059
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,480
It was like a floor level window.

1060
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:12,480
I don't know.

1061
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,480
Ooh.

1062
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,080
I don't know how far up the window was.

1063
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,080
It just...

1064
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,440
It seemed like he could have maybe just been standing outside and like all I could see was

1065
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:21,920
like torso up, you know?

1066
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:22,920
Oh God.

1067
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,960
So I don't think it was like a situation where it was like floating or...

1068
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:27,960
Yeah.

1069
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:28,960
I don't know.

1070
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,960
That gives you a little bit of contact.

1071
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:31,960
Yeah.

1072
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,040
I mean, that could just be like a straight up in cell these days.

1073
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,040
Who knows?

1074
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,960
It was where the fire come from.

1075
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:38,960
I...

1076
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,440
There was a forest fire and an in cell.

1077
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:42,440
I don't know.

1078
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:43,440
I don't know.

1079
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,440
I guess it's...

1080
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:45,440
I could have been a person.

1081
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:46,440
I don't know.

1082
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:47,440
No.

1083
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,440
No, that doesn't sound like way.

1084
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,200
I was also a kid though.

1085
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,080
So obviously they didn't like go out and measure like how far the window was from the

1086
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:59,560
ground to like see how tall this person was.

1087
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,880
It would be helpful data that I understand why you didn't.

1088
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,880
And I'm kind of glad you'd...

1089
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,400
Eight or nine year old me.

1090
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:07,840
And I wish I did.

1091
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:12,760
Because that would have been a better story like me doing all this investigating after.

1092
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,560
Do it for science, Cassie.

1093
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,520
And also like wasn't it.

1094
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,880
It was like my friend's friend's house, you know?

1095
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:24,360
It wasn't like any place I would ever go again or have been to since this.

1096
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:29,880
And we were surrounded by trees and like forests.

1097
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,720
I don't think there was a neighbor that was like right that could have been like right

1098
00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:34,720
there.

1099
00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:35,720
Yeah.

1100
00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:36,720
That I was seeing.

1101
00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:37,720
That makes sense.

1102
00:43:37,720 --> 00:43:41,880
And there wasn't a forest fire that you guys all just let through?

1103
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,880
Well, not that night.

1104
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:44,880
Okay.

1105
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,840
Uh, yeah, we'll talk about that in a minute.

1106
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:48,840
Oh.

1107
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,520
So I'm sitting here looking at this thing and I'm like trying to figure out like what

1108
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:53,520
am I seeing?

1109
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:59,240
And so I remember trying to call down to my friend and wake her up and see her like she

1110
00:43:59,240 --> 00:44:01,080
was seeing this too.

1111
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,120
I couldn't get her to wake up.

1112
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,560
Oh, which I feel like was kind of weird.

1113
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,160
I also didn't want to get down.

1114
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,760
So I wasn't like shaking her anything.

1115
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,600
I was just like calling down like Chrissy.

1116
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:11,600
Chrissy.

1117
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:12,600
Chrissy.

1118
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:13,600
Chrissy.

1119
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:14,600
Wake up.

1120
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,440
Do you see the flight man?

1121
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:17,440
The shadow man.

1122
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,640
The planey hat man.

1123
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,040
But yeah, I couldn't get her to wake up and witness this with me.

1124
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:26,120
So probably thankfully for her, I don't know, I don't know what would have happened.

1125
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,120
Yeah.

1126
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,680
If she did wake up.

1127
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:29,760
That's interesting.

1128
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:37,160
And I remember it being, I don't know if I just am putting this on the story, thinking back

1129
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,800
on it, but I feel like I remember it being really quiet, like too quiet.

1130
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:47,160
Oh, like quieter than you would think the nighttime would be.

1131
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:48,160
Right.

1132
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,120
Like when you're out somewhere and it's kind of burrow or.

1133
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,360
You hear the e-stiff, like crickets.

1134
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:54,360
Right.

1135
00:44:54,360 --> 00:45:03,560
I feel like that's a very common theme in certain types of like paranormal stories.

1136
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:08,000
And I don't know if it's something where you're just so focused on these other senses that

1137
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,040
you're not super focused.

1138
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:16,280
But also if I'm like seeing fire, what I think is fire, you think you would also be hearing

1139
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,280
crackling.

1140
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:18,280
Yes.

1141
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,080
The crackling of flames or something.

1142
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,440
But I don't know if I'm hearing anything.

1143
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:28,800
Like I barely remember hearing my own self to try to wake my friend up.

1144
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:29,800
That's so weird.

1145
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:30,800
Yeah.

1146
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:35,400
You would, I feel like if the fire is significant enough, you're going to be hearing it's

1147
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,200
like almost like brace crispy.

1148
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,200
Like yeah.

1149
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:39,600
Snap crackle hiss.

1150
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:40,600
Yeah.

1151
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:41,600
Like.

1152
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,000
And I did ask my mom too.

1153
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,520
I was like, do you guys remember having like a fire night or something?

1154
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,040
Like maybe it was only like 11 p.m.

1155
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,680
Like a bonfire outside.

1156
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,560
She doesn't know.

1157
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,960
And I'm pretty sure I was eight or nine.

1158
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:55,960
This is a long time ago.

1159
00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:01,720
I'm pretty sure this window was like pointed at the, at like the driveway area.

1160
00:46:01,720 --> 00:46:02,720
I don't know.

1161
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:03,720
I don't know.

1162
00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:07,960
So yeah, probably would be weird to have like a fire pit.

1163
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:08,960
Yeah.

1164
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:09,960
Yeah.

1165
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,560
But she said no, we didn't have like a fire that night or anything.

1166
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:14,560
Huh.

1167
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:19,000
I'm glad I have like sort of like a cooperation a little bit.

1168
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,000
Yeah.

1169
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,080
So at this point, I'm like, well, my friends are waking up.

1170
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,720
All this, this is due.

1171
00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:27,440
It's not moving or anything.

1172
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:33,160
I just can see the silhouettes like staring into the window and or maybe how does back to

1173
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:34,160
the window.

1174
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,160
I don't know.

1175
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,600
My thought was that it was looking into the window.

1176
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:37,600
Yeah.

1177
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,040
But I was like, well, worse things have happened to mislead.

1178
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:47,040
At least it's not on top of me trying to suffocate me like my sleep paralysis streams.

1179
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:52,960
And I'm not getting like, like, there's a creep like a weird vibe and not like a, it's

1180
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,800
kind of like the flannel man thing we talked about.

1181
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:59,240
Like not, not a bad vibe, but like a like fully malevolent.

1182
00:46:59,240 --> 00:47:00,240
Yeah.

1183
00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:01,840
But like, yeah, someone's there.

1184
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:02,840
It shouldn't be there.

1185
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:03,840
So it's kind of weird.

1186
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:04,840
Yeah.

1187
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,560
Well, it's like well, it's not seeming to do anything.

1188
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:13,160
So I guess I'll just go back to sleep.

1189
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,360
So I close my eyes.

1190
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,560
And I just went back to sleep.

1191
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:20,960
I think I'm stuck.

1192
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:21,960
What else would I do?

1193
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,960
Like, what are you doing?

1194
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,160
I'm a child.

1195
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:26,640
So I don't know.

1196
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:35,720
I like the slightest thing wakes me up and I cannot go back to sleep for the life of me.

1197
00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:38,840
Like it could be my own goddamn urine.

1198
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,440
It's like summoning me from the deep.

1199
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,240
And I'm like, I can't go back to sleep now.

1200
00:47:45,240 --> 00:47:47,480
See, I can always go back to sleep.

1201
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,080
No, it's a real challenge.

1202
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,320
I think it took me a minute.

1203
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:57,440
I do remember like closing my eyes and then like opening them back up to like kept making

1204
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,440
sure.

1205
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,160
But it was still there and it didn't move.

1206
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,160
So but eventually I did go back to sleep.

1207
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:05,960
I didn't, I don't think it took that long or anything.

1208
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,120
I don't remember like trying.

1209
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,960
I forever couldn't be me.

1210
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:19,880
I wrote silent night, unholy night because it was so quiet.

1211
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,040
Yeah.

1212
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,560
I love saying that.

1213
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,080
Oh boy.

1214
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,320
But one very interesting thing happened in the morning.

1215
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,640
So this is something I very distinctly remember.

1216
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,480
I don't remember a lot about this trip.

1217
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,640
I remember like going for a wheeling.

1218
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,080
This creepy thing happened in the morning.

1219
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,200
This is like what I remember from this trip.

1220
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,520
Okay.

1221
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:46,640
In the morning, I overheard the adults talking about how there was a property fire.

1222
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:52,480
There was a fire on the property and they had to rebuild some of the house.

1223
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:57,200
So like they didn't say anything about anyone dying.

1224
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,600
I don't think it was like a like a long time ago.

1225
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,600
It was like a recent ish.

1226
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,040
Like okay.

1227
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:07,840
They had rebuilt the house and so I don't think it was like way in the past, but I don't

1228
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,080
think it had just happened.

1229
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:11,080
Okay.

1230
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:12,080
I mean, I don't know.

1231
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:20,000
But I feel like maybe that could explain sort of a disturbance on the land.

1232
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,000
You know what I mean?

1233
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:29,120
It's like it awakened something or something like remembers or they didn't say about anything

1234
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,880
about anyone dying or anyone getting hurt or anything.

1235
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:36,760
I feel like that was something that they would have mentioned before already talking about

1236
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:37,760
it.

1237
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:38,760
Yeah.

1238
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:45,160
So I don't know if that was like maybe just a spirit that was already on the land or

1239
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:46,160
interest.

1240
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:52,440
Maybe the fire and the shadow person were like two separate things, like two separate hallucinations

1241
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:53,440
or whatever.

1242
00:49:53,440 --> 00:50:04,280
I mean, could be very advanced of you just having like multi-leveled, like the fire was

1243
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:09,840
like a residual haunting and like the shadow person was able to come through because of

1244
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:10,840
that energy.

1245
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:11,840
I don't know.

1246
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:12,840
Yeah.

1247
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:18,960
I mean, that's sort of like, you know, if you were, I really, I really want to make a comparison

1248
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,720
to like multi-level marketing.

1249
00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:27,820
Like if you were doing like Lula Roe and I don't know, it's another MLM like the those

1250
00:50:27,820 --> 00:50:35,260
send it oils or something like essential oil or sent me.

1251
00:50:35,260 --> 00:50:40,060
So yeah, so there's a fire on the property, which is like I had no idea about that prior

1252
00:50:40,060 --> 00:50:41,820
to like seeing this fire thing.

1253
00:50:41,820 --> 00:50:43,020
So it was like no way.

1254
00:50:43,020 --> 00:50:44,820
That is so weird.

1255
00:50:44,820 --> 00:50:45,820
Yeah.

1256
00:50:45,820 --> 00:50:52,700
I don't know if this is like where I started trusting like having intuition and like thinking

1257
00:50:52,700 --> 00:50:55,540
like maybe I'm more powerful than I know.

1258
00:50:55,540 --> 00:50:58,260
Like how would I know?

1259
00:50:58,260 --> 00:51:03,500
I'm like, you're like Spider-Man origins or maybe.

1260
00:51:03,500 --> 00:51:04,780
I always knew I was a witch.

1261
00:51:04,780 --> 00:51:06,740
I just had him post or syndrome.

1262
00:51:06,740 --> 00:51:07,740
Yeah.

1263
00:51:07,740 --> 00:51:08,740
No, that's fair.

1264
00:51:08,740 --> 00:51:10,100
That's fair.

1265
00:51:10,100 --> 00:51:13,540
So when I was talking to my mom, I was asking her all these questions.

1266
00:51:13,540 --> 00:51:18,700
She did say she was like, you know, your brother mentioned having a nightmare about that

1267
00:51:18,700 --> 00:51:20,700
house.

1268
00:51:20,700 --> 00:51:21,700
What?

1269
00:51:21,700 --> 00:51:27,140
Like way later in life, so he was only like two or three at the time we stayed there.

1270
00:51:27,140 --> 00:51:28,140
Oh shit.

1271
00:51:28,140 --> 00:51:29,140
Yeah.

1272
00:51:29,140 --> 00:51:34,500
He was little and I don't know how he even like would remember this house, right?

1273
00:51:34,500 --> 00:51:40,540
Yeah, I mean, depending on the kid, like two to four, that's kind of the earliest that

1274
00:51:40,540 --> 00:51:44,260
most people have like an actual cognitive memory.

1275
00:51:44,260 --> 00:51:45,260
Yeah.

1276
00:51:45,260 --> 00:51:49,340
You have like random like random core memories, I feel like, but this was apparently one

1277
00:51:49,340 --> 00:51:51,340
of his random core memories.

1278
00:51:51,340 --> 00:51:54,700
This house we went to one time.

1279
00:51:54,700 --> 00:51:55,700
That's insane.

1280
00:51:55,700 --> 00:52:02,060
Yeah, which is, I guess that sort of makes sense because I remember having memories of

1281
00:52:02,060 --> 00:52:04,940
like cool houses you go to because you're not there all the time.

1282
00:52:04,940 --> 00:52:06,380
So it's like, that does make sense.

1283
00:52:06,380 --> 00:52:07,380
Yeah.

1284
00:52:07,380 --> 00:52:09,380
I mean, it's a unique experience.

1285
00:52:09,380 --> 00:52:10,380
Yeah.

1286
00:52:10,380 --> 00:52:14,020
So two or three, but then he had a nightmare about this house.

1287
00:52:14,020 --> 00:52:15,900
I don't know how old he was.

1288
00:52:15,900 --> 00:52:16,900
I asked him about it too.

1289
00:52:16,900 --> 00:52:18,700
And he was like, yeah, I do remember that.

1290
00:52:18,700 --> 00:52:23,980
I don't think we know how old he was when he had the nightmare, but it was like later on.

1291
00:52:23,980 --> 00:52:26,820
Wait, so he didn't have it the night you guys were in the house.

1292
00:52:26,820 --> 00:52:31,700
He had it later about the house.

1293
00:52:31,700 --> 00:52:32,700
That's way weird.

1294
00:52:32,700 --> 00:52:33,700
Isn't that weird?

1295
00:52:33,700 --> 00:52:34,700
That's way weirder.

1296
00:52:34,700 --> 00:52:37,500
So weird.

1297
00:52:37,500 --> 00:52:39,100
He didn't really give me any details.

1298
00:52:39,100 --> 00:52:40,780
He said he couldn't really remember.

1299
00:52:40,780 --> 00:52:48,460
It was just really a really weird creepy dream about that cabin in the woods that we stayed

1300
00:52:48,460 --> 00:52:49,460
up.

1301
00:52:49,460 --> 00:52:50,460
Okay.

1302
00:52:50,460 --> 00:52:58,540
Well, I for one would like to petition to have him hypnotize because I need more information.

1303
00:52:58,540 --> 00:53:01,140
Do we let's hypnotize you?

1304
00:53:01,140 --> 00:53:02,140
I know.

1305
00:53:02,140 --> 00:53:05,140
I want to know what the dream was too.

1306
00:53:05,140 --> 00:53:10,180
He says, I think he said he remembered like his only memory from the house is like sitting

1307
00:53:10,180 --> 00:53:12,980
on the counter, which is like kind of funny.

1308
00:53:12,980 --> 00:53:14,580
Yeah, but I don't know what.

1309
00:53:14,580 --> 00:53:16,220
Yeah, I don't know what his nightmare was.

1310
00:53:16,220 --> 00:53:18,060
He just said it was like weird and creepy.

1311
00:53:18,060 --> 00:53:19,500
I don't think he actually remembers.

1312
00:53:19,500 --> 00:53:25,580
So yeah, we get hypnotized and I'm just saying, I think we should give it the old college

1313
00:53:25,580 --> 00:53:26,580
dream.

1314
00:53:26,580 --> 00:53:29,100
And he didn't I never told him about this.

1315
00:53:29,100 --> 00:53:31,940
So like he didn't really know that I had a weird experience.

1316
00:53:31,940 --> 00:53:35,540
Well, I mean, of course, it's a seven year difference, right?

1317
00:53:35,540 --> 00:53:36,540
Yeah.

1318
00:53:36,540 --> 00:53:42,780
I mean, that's kind of all I had about this weird hat man and the fire experience that was

1319
00:53:42,780 --> 00:53:45,500
is my only super spooky ghost story.

1320
00:53:45,500 --> 00:53:47,260
But I don't have any answers.

1321
00:53:47,260 --> 00:53:48,260
Yeah.

1322
00:53:48,260 --> 00:53:52,980
That's that's very unsatisfying, but very intriguing.

1323
00:53:52,980 --> 00:53:53,980
I know.

1324
00:53:53,980 --> 00:53:56,020
I want to know more.

1325
00:53:56,020 --> 00:53:59,140
I want to like try to figure out where this place isn't go back.

1326
00:53:59,140 --> 00:54:00,140
Yeah.

1327
00:54:00,140 --> 00:54:03,620
Did you see me already being like, okay, who can we ask?

1328
00:54:03,620 --> 00:54:07,460
Where?

1329
00:54:07,460 --> 00:54:10,140
Yeah, unfortunately, every photos, maybe we can geolocate it.

1330
00:54:10,140 --> 00:54:12,460
Yeah, I don't know if we have photos.

1331
00:54:12,460 --> 00:54:15,900
Unfortunately, my friend's mom who we went with has passed.

1332
00:54:15,900 --> 00:54:18,940
Well, so we can't ask her.

1333
00:54:18,940 --> 00:54:19,940
Okay.

1334
00:54:19,940 --> 00:54:20,940
Yeah.

1335
00:54:20,940 --> 00:54:24,860
I have so many follow up questions.

1336
00:54:24,860 --> 00:54:29,500
I can't even begin to explain how many questions.

1337
00:54:29,500 --> 00:54:35,100
Do we feel like maybe some of them can be answered by a little Tara?

1338
00:54:35,100 --> 00:54:36,100
Maybe.

1339
00:54:36,100 --> 00:54:37,100
I don't know.

1340
00:54:37,100 --> 00:54:38,100
Tara?

1341
00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:40,580
I want to get my answer to hat man.

1342
00:54:40,580 --> 00:54:42,700
I want to know who this was.

1343
00:54:42,700 --> 00:54:43,700
Was he cute?

1344
00:54:43,700 --> 00:54:46,260
Because he was a young man looking at me.

1345
00:54:46,260 --> 00:54:47,940
Oh, I did write in here.

1346
00:54:47,940 --> 00:54:49,340
I did something super Christmasy.

1347
00:54:49,340 --> 00:54:51,300
We'll mention it right before we go to the tarot.

1348
00:54:51,300 --> 00:54:52,300
Give it to me.

1349
00:54:52,300 --> 00:54:54,940
I went to the Transybarian Orchestra.

1350
00:54:54,940 --> 00:54:55,940
That's right.

1351
00:54:55,940 --> 00:54:58,260
It was really cool.

1352
00:54:58,260 --> 00:55:03,620
I was like, okay, they do, they put the Christ in Christmas or whatever, but it's fine.

1353
00:55:03,620 --> 00:55:05,380
It's not a religious thing though.

1354
00:55:05,380 --> 00:55:07,420
It's kind of an orchestra.

1355
00:55:07,420 --> 00:55:08,620
It was like Christmast.

1356
00:55:08,620 --> 00:55:14,140
Well, because it's Christmas, they sing a lot of Christmast songs.

1357
00:55:14,140 --> 00:55:15,140
Christmast.

1358
00:55:15,140 --> 00:55:18,540
Yeah, I feel like it was like a religious vibe.

1359
00:55:18,540 --> 00:55:19,540
Christmast.

1360
00:55:19,540 --> 00:55:20,540
Yeah.

1361
00:55:20,540 --> 00:55:23,780
It wasn't obviously like going to a church or something, you know?

1362
00:55:23,780 --> 00:55:26,140
It wasn't like that in your face.

1363
00:55:26,140 --> 00:55:27,620
It was tolerable for me.

1364
00:55:27,620 --> 00:55:28,620
And it was pretty good.

1365
00:55:28,620 --> 00:55:33,700
They're so talented and they've got flames on stage.

1366
00:55:33,700 --> 00:55:36,620
Fanned, tired, laser lights.

1367
00:55:36,620 --> 00:55:38,860
Yeah, it was pretty cool.

1368
00:55:38,860 --> 00:55:41,580
Sharks with lasers on their head.

1369
00:55:41,580 --> 00:55:42,900
There was no sharks.

1370
00:55:42,900 --> 00:55:45,860
Oh, I mean, there could be.

1371
00:55:45,860 --> 00:55:48,100
They did have a woman singing in a snow globe.

1372
00:55:48,100 --> 00:55:49,100
Mm-hmm.

1373
00:55:49,100 --> 00:55:50,100
That's pretty cool.

1374
00:55:50,100 --> 00:55:51,100
That's interesting.

1375
00:55:51,100 --> 00:55:53,700
The dudes, fucking patriarchy.

1376
00:55:53,700 --> 00:55:58,940
They were so muscularly and they had such long hair that they were flipping around with their

1377
00:55:58,940 --> 00:55:59,940
tutors and shoes.

1378
00:55:59,940 --> 00:56:01,940
They were so muscularly.

1379
00:56:01,940 --> 00:56:05,860
They had men who were all muscularly.

1380
00:56:05,860 --> 00:56:08,180
I don't know if that's how I said it.

1381
00:56:08,180 --> 00:56:09,580
That is how you said it.

1382
00:56:09,580 --> 00:56:11,420
They had a lot of muskals and muskals.

1383
00:56:11,420 --> 00:56:12,420
And muskals.

1384
00:56:12,420 --> 00:56:13,420
A lot of hair.

1385
00:56:13,420 --> 00:56:14,420
Okay.

1386
00:56:14,420 --> 00:56:15,420
I didn't hate it.

1387
00:56:15,420 --> 00:56:17,500
No, I can understand that.

1388
00:56:17,500 --> 00:56:20,340
I think you blacked out because you saw some muskals.

1389
00:56:20,340 --> 00:56:21,540
I saw some muskals.

1390
00:56:21,540 --> 00:56:23,140
She started talking nonsense.

1391
00:56:23,140 --> 00:56:24,140
Yeah.

1392
00:56:24,140 --> 00:56:25,140
Where are we?

1393
00:56:25,140 --> 00:56:27,340
What are we doing?

1394
00:56:27,340 --> 00:56:29,660
The oxygen to her brain was cut off.

1395
00:56:29,660 --> 00:56:32,060
She's got a major lady boner.

1396
00:56:32,060 --> 00:56:34,780
There were a lot of hot girls too, just FYI.

1397
00:56:34,780 --> 00:56:35,780
They were pretty hot.

1398
00:56:35,780 --> 00:56:36,780
They put it up there.

1399
00:56:36,780 --> 00:56:38,460
They also had hair.

1400
00:56:38,460 --> 00:56:39,460
All right.

1401
00:56:39,460 --> 00:56:40,460
All right.

1402
00:56:40,460 --> 00:56:41,460
All right.

1403
00:56:41,460 --> 00:56:42,460
Let's go to tarot.

1404
00:56:42,460 --> 00:56:43,460
Okay.

1405
00:56:43,460 --> 00:56:53,100
Cassie has been shuffling.

1406
00:56:53,100 --> 00:56:56,380
She is currently getting the vibe.

1407
00:56:56,380 --> 00:57:01,820
She's also doing kind of a weird thing with her mouth.

1408
00:57:01,820 --> 00:57:05,220
Really wish she was in the camp right now.

1409
00:57:05,220 --> 00:57:07,100
But here we are.

1410
00:57:07,100 --> 00:57:08,940
Picking the card.

1411
00:57:08,940 --> 00:57:09,940
Oh.

1412
00:57:09,940 --> 00:57:10,940
Oh.

1413
00:57:10,940 --> 00:57:11,940
Okay.

1414
00:57:11,940 --> 00:57:15,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1415
00:57:15,940 --> 00:57:18,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1416
00:57:18,940 --> 00:57:20,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1417
00:57:20,940 --> 00:57:21,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1418
00:57:21,940 --> 00:57:22,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1419
00:57:22,940 --> 00:57:23,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1420
00:57:23,940 --> 00:57:24,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1421
00:57:24,940 --> 00:57:25,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1422
00:57:25,940 --> 00:57:26,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1423
00:57:26,940 --> 00:57:27,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1424
00:57:27,940 --> 00:57:28,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1425
00:57:28,940 --> 00:57:29,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1426
00:57:29,940 --> 00:57:30,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1427
00:57:30,940 --> 00:57:31,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1428
00:57:31,940 --> 00:57:32,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1429
00:57:32,940 --> 00:57:33,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1430
00:57:33,940 --> 00:57:34,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1431
00:57:34,940 --> 00:57:35,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1432
00:57:35,940 --> 00:57:48,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1433
00:57:48,940 --> 00:57:49,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1434
00:57:49,940 --> 00:57:50,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1435
00:57:50,940 --> 00:57:51,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1436
00:57:51,940 --> 00:57:52,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1437
00:57:52,940 --> 00:57:53,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1438
00:57:53,940 --> 00:57:54,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1439
00:57:54,940 --> 00:57:55,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1440
00:57:55,940 --> 00:57:56,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1441
00:57:56,940 --> 00:57:57,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1442
00:57:57,940 --> 00:57:58,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1443
00:57:58,940 --> 00:57:59,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1444
00:57:59,940 --> 00:58:00,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1445
00:58:00,940 --> 00:58:01,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1446
00:58:01,940 --> 00:58:02,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1447
00:58:02,940 --> 00:58:03,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1448
00:58:03,940 --> 00:58:04,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1449
00:58:04,940 --> 00:58:05,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1450
00:58:05,940 --> 00:58:06,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1451
00:58:06,940 --> 00:58:07,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1452
00:58:07,940 --> 00:58:08,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1453
00:58:08,940 --> 00:58:09,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1454
00:58:09,940 --> 00:58:10,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1455
00:58:10,940 --> 00:58:11,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1456
00:58:11,940 --> 00:58:12,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1457
00:58:12,940 --> 00:58:13,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1458
00:58:13,940 --> 00:58:14,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1459
00:58:14,940 --> 00:58:15,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1460
00:58:15,940 --> 00:58:16,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1461
00:58:16,940 --> 00:58:17,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1462
00:58:17,940 --> 00:58:18,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1463
00:58:18,940 --> 00:58:19,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1464
00:58:19,940 --> 00:58:20,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1465
00:58:20,940 --> 00:58:21,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1466
00:58:21,940 --> 00:58:22,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1467
00:58:22,940 --> 00:58:35,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1468
00:58:35,940 --> 00:58:36,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1469
00:58:36,940 --> 00:58:37,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1470
00:58:37,940 --> 00:58:38,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1471
00:58:38,940 --> 00:58:39,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1472
00:58:39,940 --> 00:58:40,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1473
00:58:40,940 --> 00:58:41,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1474
00:58:41,940 --> 00:58:42,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1475
00:58:42,940 --> 00:58:43,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1476
00:58:43,940 --> 00:58:44,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1477
00:58:44,940 --> 00:58:45,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1478
00:58:45,940 --> 00:58:46,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1479
00:58:46,940 --> 00:58:47,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1480
00:58:47,940 --> 00:58:48,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1481
00:58:48,940 --> 00:58:49,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1482
00:58:49,940 --> 00:58:50,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1483
00:58:50,940 --> 00:58:51,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1484
00:58:51,940 --> 00:58:52,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1485
00:58:52,940 --> 00:58:53,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1486
00:58:53,940 --> 00:58:54,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1487
00:58:54,940 --> 00:58:55,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1488
00:58:55,940 --> 00:58:56,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1489
00:58:56,940 --> 00:58:57,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1490
00:58:57,940 --> 00:58:58,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1491
00:58:58,940 --> 00:58:59,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1492
00:58:59,940 --> 00:59:00,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1493
00:59:00,940 --> 00:59:01,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1494
00:59:01,940 --> 00:59:02,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1495
00:59:02,940 --> 00:59:03,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1496
00:59:03,940 --> 00:59:04,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1497
00:59:04,940 --> 00:59:05,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1498
00:59:05,940 --> 00:59:06,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1499
00:59:06,940 --> 00:59:07,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1500
00:59:07,940 --> 00:59:08,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1501
00:59:08,940 --> 00:59:09,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1502
00:59:09,940 --> 00:59:22,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1503
00:59:22,940 --> 00:59:23,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1504
00:59:23,940 --> 00:59:24,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1505
00:59:24,940 --> 00:59:25,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1506
00:59:25,940 --> 00:59:26,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1507
00:59:26,940 --> 00:59:27,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1508
00:59:27,940 --> 00:59:28,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1509
00:59:28,940 --> 00:59:29,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1510
00:59:29,940 --> 00:59:30,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1511
00:59:30,940 --> 00:59:31,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1512
00:59:31,940 --> 00:59:32,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1513
00:59:32,940 --> 00:59:33,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1514
00:59:33,940 --> 00:59:34,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1515
00:59:34,940 --> 00:59:35,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1516
00:59:35,940 --> 00:59:36,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1517
00:59:36,940 --> 00:59:37,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1518
00:59:37,940 --> 00:59:38,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1519
00:59:38,940 --> 00:59:39,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1520
00:59:39,940 --> 00:59:40,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1521
00:59:40,940 --> 00:59:41,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1522
00:59:41,940 --> 00:59:42,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1523
00:59:42,940 --> 00:59:43,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1524
00:59:43,940 --> 00:59:44,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1525
00:59:44,940 --> 00:59:45,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1526
00:59:45,940 --> 00:59:46,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1527
00:59:46,940 --> 00:59:47,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1528
00:59:47,940 --> 00:59:48,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1529
00:59:48,940 --> 00:59:49,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1530
00:59:49,940 --> 00:59:50,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1531
00:59:50,940 --> 00:59:51,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1532
00:59:51,940 --> 00:59:52,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1533
00:59:52,940 --> 00:59:53,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1534
00:59:53,940 --> 00:59:54,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1535
00:59:54,940 --> 00:59:55,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1536
00:59:55,940 --> 00:59:56,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1537
00:59:56,940 --> 01:00:09,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1538
01:00:09,940 --> 01:00:10,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1539
01:00:10,940 --> 01:00:11,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1540
01:00:11,940 --> 01:00:12,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1541
01:00:12,940 --> 01:00:13,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1542
01:00:13,940 --> 01:00:14,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1543
01:00:14,940 --> 01:00:15,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1544
01:00:15,940 --> 01:00:16,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1545
01:00:16,940 --> 01:00:17,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1546
01:00:17,940 --> 01:00:18,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1547
01:00:18,940 --> 01:00:19,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1548
01:00:19,940 --> 01:00:20,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1549
01:00:20,940 --> 01:00:21,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1550
01:00:21,940 --> 01:00:22,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1551
01:00:22,940 --> 01:00:23,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1552
01:00:23,940 --> 01:00:24,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1553
01:00:24,940 --> 01:00:25,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1554
01:00:25,940 --> 01:00:26,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1555
01:00:26,940 --> 01:00:27,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1556
01:00:27,940 --> 01:00:28,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1557
01:00:28,940 --> 01:00:29,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1558
01:00:29,940 --> 01:00:30,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1559
01:00:30,940 --> 01:00:31,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1560
01:00:31,940 --> 01:00:32,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1561
01:00:32,940 --> 01:00:33,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1562
01:00:33,940 --> 01:00:34,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1563
01:00:34,940 --> 01:00:35,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1564
01:00:35,940 --> 01:00:36,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1565
01:00:36,940 --> 01:00:37,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1566
01:00:37,940 --> 01:00:38,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1567
01:00:38,940 --> 01:00:39,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1568
01:00:39,940 --> 01:00:40,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1569
01:00:40,940 --> 01:00:41,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1570
01:00:41,940 --> 01:00:42,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1571
01:00:42,940 --> 01:00:43,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1572
01:00:43,940 --> 01:00:56,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1573
01:00:56,940 --> 01:00:57,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1574
01:00:57,940 --> 01:00:58,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1575
01:00:58,940 --> 01:00:59,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1576
01:00:59,940 --> 01:01:00,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1577
01:01:00,940 --> 01:01:01,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1578
01:01:01,940 --> 01:01:02,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1579
01:01:02,940 --> 01:01:03,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1580
01:01:03,940 --> 01:01:04,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1581
01:01:04,940 --> 01:01:05,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1582
01:01:05,940 --> 01:01:06,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1583
01:01:06,940 --> 01:01:07,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1584
01:01:07,940 --> 01:01:08,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1585
01:01:08,940 --> 01:01:09,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1586
01:01:09,940 --> 01:01:10,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1587
01:01:10,940 --> 01:01:11,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1588
01:01:11,940 --> 01:01:12,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1589
01:01:12,940 --> 01:01:13,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1590
01:01:13,940 --> 01:01:14,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1591
01:01:14,940 --> 01:01:15,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1592
01:01:15,940 --> 01:01:16,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1593
01:01:16,940 --> 01:01:17,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1594
01:01:17,940 --> 01:01:18,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1595
01:01:18,940 --> 01:01:19,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1596
01:01:19,940 --> 01:01:20,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1597
01:01:20,940 --> 01:01:21,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1598
01:01:21,940 --> 01:01:22,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1599
01:01:22,940 --> 01:01:23,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1600
01:01:23,940 --> 01:01:24,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1601
01:01:24,940 --> 01:01:25,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1602
01:01:25,940 --> 01:01:26,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1603
01:01:26,940 --> 01:01:27,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1604
01:01:27,940 --> 01:01:28,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1605
01:01:28,940 --> 01:01:29,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1606
01:01:29,940 --> 01:01:30,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1607
01:01:30,940 --> 01:01:42,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1608
01:01:42,940 --> 01:01:43,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1609
01:01:43,940 --> 01:01:44,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1610
01:01:44,940 --> 01:01:45,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1611
01:01:45,940 --> 01:01:46,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1612
01:01:46,940 --> 01:01:47,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1613
01:01:47,940 --> 01:01:48,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1614
01:01:48,940 --> 01:01:49,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1615
01:01:49,940 --> 01:01:50,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1616
01:01:50,940 --> 01:01:51,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1617
01:01:51,940 --> 01:01:52,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1618
01:01:52,940 --> 01:01:53,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1619
01:01:53,940 --> 01:01:54,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1620
01:01:54,940 --> 01:01:55,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1621
01:01:55,940 --> 01:01:56,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1622
01:01:56,940 --> 01:01:57,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1623
01:01:57,940 --> 01:01:58,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1624
01:01:58,940 --> 01:01:59,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1625
01:01:59,940 --> 01:02:00,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1626
01:02:00,940 --> 01:02:01,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1627
01:02:01,940 --> 01:02:02,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1628
01:02:02,940 --> 01:02:03,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1629
01:02:03,940 --> 01:02:04,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1630
01:02:04,940 --> 01:02:05,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1631
01:02:05,940 --> 01:02:06,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1632
01:02:06,940 --> 01:02:07,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1633
01:02:07,940 --> 01:02:08,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1634
01:02:08,940 --> 01:02:09,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1635
01:02:09,940 --> 01:02:10,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1636
01:02:10,940 --> 01:02:11,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1637
01:02:11,940 --> 01:02:12,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1638
01:02:12,940 --> 01:02:13,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1639
01:02:13,940 --> 01:02:14,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1640
01:02:14,940 --> 01:02:15,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1641
01:02:15,940 --> 01:02:16,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1642
01:02:16,940 --> 01:02:17,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1643
01:02:17,940 --> 01:02:30,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1644
01:02:30,940 --> 01:02:31,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1645
01:02:31,940 --> 01:02:32,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1646
01:02:32,940 --> 01:02:33,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1647
01:02:33,940 --> 01:02:34,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1648
01:02:34,940 --> 01:02:35,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1649
01:02:35,940 --> 01:02:36,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1650
01:02:36,940 --> 01:02:37,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1651
01:02:37,940 --> 01:02:38,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1652
01:02:38,940 --> 01:02:39,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1653
01:02:39,940 --> 01:02:40,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1654
01:02:40,940 --> 01:02:41,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1655
01:02:41,940 --> 01:02:42,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1656
01:02:42,940 --> 01:02:43,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1657
01:02:43,940 --> 01:02:44,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1658
01:02:44,940 --> 01:02:45,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1659
01:02:45,940 --> 01:02:46,940
I don't know if you can see it.

1660
01:02:46,940 --> 01:02:52,940
In a reading about love, this card indicates giving up on a relationship.

1661
01:02:52,940 --> 01:02:57,940
You feel worn down by problems and don't know how to settle your differences.

1662
01:02:57,940 --> 01:03:00,940
Counseling could help you gain clarity.

1663
01:03:00,940 --> 01:03:03,940
Oh, I mean, I needed counseling as a child.

1664
01:03:03,940 --> 01:03:05,940
Oh, no.

1665
01:03:05,940 --> 01:03:07,940
I mean, don't we all?

1666
01:03:07,940 --> 01:03:09,940
Didn't we all and don't we all?

1667
01:03:09,940 --> 01:03:15,940
It just made me think of like all the other, the other sleep paralysis experience.

1668
01:03:15,940 --> 01:03:16,940
Perinus experiences.

1669
01:03:16,940 --> 01:03:17,940
That was a lot.

1670
01:03:17,940 --> 01:03:23,940
That's a mouthful sleep paralysis experiences I was having and like, and how this one was so

1671
01:03:23,940 --> 01:03:24,940
different.

1672
01:03:24,940 --> 01:03:25,940
Yeah.

1673
01:03:25,940 --> 01:03:29,340
I don't know why you thought statement reminded me of it because I already forgot what you

1674
01:03:29,340 --> 01:03:30,340
had said, but.

1675
01:03:30,340 --> 01:03:31,340
Okay.

1676
01:03:31,340 --> 01:03:33,340
Well, I do have an extra excerpt.

1677
01:03:33,340 --> 01:03:34,340
Okay.

1678
01:03:34,340 --> 01:03:35,340
Okay.

1679
01:03:35,340 --> 01:03:40,940
When you come to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on.

1680
01:03:40,940 --> 01:03:41,940
Oh.

1681
01:03:41,940 --> 01:03:48,940
Which anything with rope and hanging definitely harkens back to the Civil War and the South

1682
01:03:48,940 --> 01:03:50,940
for me.

1683
01:03:50,940 --> 01:03:58,100
Reverse seven of candles and or wants has yourself confidence taken a hit recently?

1684
01:03:58,100 --> 01:04:02,940
Are you feeling overwhelmed or exasperated or like you have to speed read?

1685
01:04:02,940 --> 01:04:06,540
Is this just it feels like one of the like an infomercial?

1686
01:04:06,540 --> 01:04:08,820
Yeah, it does.

1687
01:04:08,820 --> 01:04:13,620
Look at so bogged down on the details that you lose sight of the larger picture.

1688
01:04:13,620 --> 01:04:20,380
Remember how far you've come, you're more than capable of making your dreams come true.

1689
01:04:20,380 --> 01:04:22,820
This was the reverse interpretation.

1690
01:04:22,820 --> 01:04:23,820
Interesting.

1691
01:04:23,820 --> 01:04:24,820
Huh.

1692
01:04:24,820 --> 01:04:25,820
Hmm.

1693
01:04:25,820 --> 01:04:30,820
Making your dreams come true and all this time I kind of thought it was like a dream.

1694
01:04:30,820 --> 01:04:31,820
Hmm.

1695
01:04:31,820 --> 01:04:32,820
Hmm.

1696
01:04:32,820 --> 01:04:34,820
I don't want to make my dreams come true.

1697
01:04:34,820 --> 01:04:35,820
Yeah, I'm not sure.

1698
01:04:35,820 --> 01:04:39,820
But that's not maybe not that one's to dream.

1699
01:04:39,820 --> 01:04:40,820
Okay.

1700
01:04:40,820 --> 01:04:48,820
King of ones are key words are leadership, self confidence, success, good fortune.

1701
01:04:48,820 --> 01:04:49,820
Okay.

1702
01:04:49,820 --> 01:04:52,820
Which I feel like just ties back to Jessica's story.

1703
01:04:52,820 --> 01:04:53,820
If nothing else.

1704
01:04:53,820 --> 01:04:54,820
Oh, yeah, yeah.

1705
01:04:54,820 --> 01:04:55,820
The good luck.

1706
01:04:55,820 --> 01:04:56,820
Yeah.

1707
01:04:56,820 --> 01:04:57,820
Yeah.

1708
01:04:57,820 --> 01:04:58,820
And loyalty.

1709
01:04:58,820 --> 01:05:01,820
Uh, the king was upright, right?

1710
01:05:01,820 --> 01:05:02,820
Yeah.

1711
01:05:02,820 --> 01:05:03,820
I mean, I didn't.

1712
01:05:03,820 --> 01:05:04,820
Yeah, it was upright.

1713
01:05:04,820 --> 01:05:07,380
I didn't really like officially pull it out.

1714
01:05:07,380 --> 01:05:09,820
I just kind of pulled it and set it upright.

1715
01:05:09,820 --> 01:05:10,820
I don't remember.

1716
01:05:10,820 --> 01:05:13,820
I feel like it was upright when I.

1717
01:05:13,820 --> 01:05:14,820
When you're looking on it.

1718
01:05:14,820 --> 01:05:15,820
Yeah.

1719
01:05:15,820 --> 01:05:23,820
I mean, that was such a weird thing because I just from like, it just happens to.

1720
01:05:23,820 --> 01:05:26,820
I saw it on the underside of the deck, but.

1721
01:05:26,820 --> 01:05:27,820
Okay.

1722
01:05:27,820 --> 01:05:33,620
The king upright is a fortunate card, regardless of the situation.

1723
01:05:33,620 --> 01:05:40,740
If he represents a real person, it's someone you can trust and rely on to do the right thing.

1724
01:05:40,740 --> 01:05:50,940
He's a loyal friend, a fair-minded employer, a wise advisor, a competent and honest leader.

1725
01:05:50,940 --> 01:05:54,540
This intelligent man has high ideals.

1726
01:05:54,540 --> 01:06:02,180
He's an active, energetic, independent individual with a passion for life and an adventurous nature.

1727
01:06:02,180 --> 01:06:06,540
This is so wild because immediately I was like, okay, I know that the Civil War is on my

1728
01:06:06,540 --> 01:06:15,380
brain clearly, but I'm like, honest, leader, high ideals are his ideals as high as his hat.

1729
01:06:15,380 --> 01:06:16,380
Well, it's interesting.

1730
01:06:16,380 --> 01:06:17,380
Talking about you.

1731
01:06:17,380 --> 01:06:21,820
I, but that was like the, like the infantry people wore those hats.

1732
01:06:21,820 --> 01:06:25,100
I wasn't like like the higher up people did not.

1733
01:06:25,100 --> 01:06:26,100
Yeah.

1734
01:06:26,100 --> 01:06:28,100
No, I was making an Abe Lincoln joke.

1735
01:06:28,100 --> 01:06:29,100
Oh, okay.

1736
01:06:29,100 --> 01:06:31,940
Him and his 10-gallon hat.

1737
01:06:31,940 --> 01:06:32,940
Oh, I see.

1738
01:06:32,940 --> 01:06:33,940
Yeah.

1739
01:06:33,940 --> 01:06:34,940
I see, I see.

1740
01:06:34,940 --> 01:06:35,940
He was in the Civil War.

1741
01:06:35,940 --> 01:06:36,940
He was in the Civil War.

1742
01:06:36,940 --> 01:06:37,940
Yeah.

1743
01:06:37,940 --> 01:06:39,460
No, he was literally the president.

1744
01:06:39,460 --> 01:06:41,460
That's why he was killed.

1745
01:06:41,460 --> 01:06:42,460
Oh.

1746
01:06:42,460 --> 01:06:43,460
Because racism.

1747
01:06:43,460 --> 01:06:44,460
That makes sense.

1748
01:06:44,460 --> 01:06:45,460
Yeah.

1749
01:06:45,460 --> 01:06:47,460
I think I knew that rattling around in my brain, but.

1750
01:06:47,460 --> 01:06:48,460
Yeah.

1751
01:06:48,460 --> 01:06:49,460
Yeah.

1752
01:06:49,460 --> 01:06:51,780
I was thinking because like hat, because we're talking about.

1753
01:06:51,780 --> 01:06:54,100
You mentioned Abe Lincoln earlier.

1754
01:06:54,100 --> 01:06:59,540
Did you mention that before you even knew about the Civil War hat?

1755
01:06:59,540 --> 01:07:00,540
I mentioned Abe Lincoln.

1756
01:07:00,540 --> 01:07:03,140
Yeah, because you're like, it's not a Lincoln.

1757
01:07:03,140 --> 01:07:05,380
Because I was talking about the hat.

1758
01:07:05,380 --> 01:07:07,740
There's not that interest.

1759
01:07:07,740 --> 01:07:09,700
Yeah.

1760
01:07:09,700 --> 01:07:15,980
In a reading about money, you can expect good things to come your way when the king appears.

1761
01:07:15,980 --> 01:07:22,340
Sometimes the king means getting a race that a venture will pay off or that you have financial

1762
01:07:22,340 --> 01:07:23,940
support.

1763
01:07:23,940 --> 01:07:27,700
If the reading is about your job, success is assured.

1764
01:07:27,700 --> 01:07:32,900
The king may indicate a promotion or recognition for your efforts.

1765
01:07:32,900 --> 01:07:38,620
It can also show you moving into a position of a thirut.

1766
01:07:38,620 --> 01:07:43,260
Now is a good time to take a chance for victory is yours.

1767
01:07:43,260 --> 01:07:44,260
Okay.

1768
01:07:44,260 --> 01:07:50,460
In a question about love, the king of one says the relationship is a strong one with plenty

1769
01:07:50,460 --> 01:07:53,300
of affection and passion.

1770
01:07:53,300 --> 01:07:58,060
Perhaps between two lively, creative, outgoing people.

1771
01:07:58,060 --> 01:08:04,620
Maybe the shadow man was supposed to be my lover.

1772
01:08:04,620 --> 01:08:05,620
Come back to me.

1773
01:08:05,620 --> 01:08:06,620
I'm old enough now.

1774
01:08:06,620 --> 01:08:07,620
Oh boy.

1775
01:08:07,620 --> 01:08:08,620
I'm old age.

1776
01:08:08,620 --> 01:08:12,780
I feel like that's problematic because you guys met when you were a child.

1777
01:08:12,780 --> 01:08:15,020
Yeah, he was grooming me my whole life.

1778
01:08:15,020 --> 01:08:16,020
I'm saying.

1779
01:08:16,020 --> 01:08:17,540
I don't know.

1780
01:08:17,540 --> 01:08:21,060
So we actually have two extra exerbs here.

1781
01:08:21,060 --> 01:08:25,220
It says which way does the king face?

1782
01:08:25,220 --> 01:08:28,060
Oh, north or south.

1783
01:08:28,060 --> 01:08:29,060
Oh, yeah.

1784
01:08:29,060 --> 01:08:31,860
I don't know either.

1785
01:08:31,860 --> 01:08:34,460
I can make connections to a lot of that.

1786
01:08:34,460 --> 01:08:35,700
That's my brain.

1787
01:08:35,700 --> 01:08:38,260
Also this king is just facing forward.

1788
01:08:38,260 --> 01:08:39,260
Yeah.

1789
01:08:39,260 --> 01:08:44,540
The pattern recognition, that might be the tism.

1790
01:08:44,540 --> 01:08:48,140
He is pointing upward up and down.

1791
01:08:48,140 --> 01:08:49,140
Oh, interesting.

1792
01:08:49,140 --> 01:08:50,660
Yeah, that's true.

1793
01:08:50,660 --> 01:08:53,900
Oh, north and south.

1794
01:08:53,900 --> 01:09:00,500
In some decks, the king faces sideways and whether he is looking forward or excuse me,

1795
01:09:00,500 --> 01:09:04,940
and whether he is looking toward or away from other cards in his spread, we'll have a

1796
01:09:04,940 --> 01:09:06,580
bearing on the reading.

1797
01:09:06,580 --> 01:09:09,860
Oh, he's just forward.

1798
01:09:09,860 --> 01:09:10,860
Interesting.

1799
01:09:10,860 --> 01:09:12,860
Okay.

1800
01:09:12,860 --> 01:09:14,660
Bully card.

1801
01:09:14,660 --> 01:09:15,820
Oh.

1802
01:09:15,820 --> 01:09:22,100
In the extreme, the reversed king of wands can be the bully card.

1803
01:09:22,100 --> 01:09:28,500
As Mary K. Greer writes in the complete book of tarot reversals, we might need that.

1804
01:09:28,500 --> 01:09:29,980
We need new books, I think.

1805
01:09:29,980 --> 01:09:34,580
I think we need that book because I feel like the reverse interpretations, that's something

1806
01:09:34,580 --> 01:09:38,300
we always want more insight on.

1807
01:09:38,300 --> 01:09:43,860
You might oppose others simply as a display of one upmanship.

1808
01:09:43,860 --> 01:09:51,540
You can be aggressive and abuse others like a bully or a common dawn with no humanity.

1809
01:09:51,540 --> 01:09:53,380
Jesus, okay.

1810
01:09:53,380 --> 01:09:55,380
Shut the fuck up.

1811
01:09:55,380 --> 01:09:56,380
What?

1812
01:09:56,380 --> 01:09:57,380
Okay.

1813
01:09:57,380 --> 01:09:58,380
I was right.

1814
01:09:58,380 --> 01:09:59,380
I had to look.

1815
01:09:59,380 --> 01:10:00,380
Okay.

1816
01:10:00,380 --> 01:10:08,700
Is a military term, an officer in charge of a particular force or institution.

1817
01:10:08,700 --> 01:10:14,300
The example is the West Point common dawn of cadets.

1818
01:10:14,300 --> 01:10:15,580
Weird.

1819
01:10:15,580 --> 01:10:18,420
I never come across a word in everyday life.

1820
01:10:18,420 --> 01:10:19,420
Yeah.

1821
01:10:19,420 --> 01:10:20,420
I don't mean either.

1822
01:10:20,420 --> 01:10:21,420
Deal.

1823
01:10:21,420 --> 01:10:22,420
Interest.

1824
01:10:22,420 --> 01:10:24,020
I've got the spooky news now.

1825
01:10:24,020 --> 01:10:26,860
So I feel like we definitely got an answer.

1826
01:10:26,860 --> 01:10:35,140
I feel like all of the military related things we got, I feel like that was a silver war hat.

1827
01:10:35,140 --> 01:10:37,380
Pretty affirmative.

1828
01:10:37,380 --> 01:10:42,180
What if it was an actual person who just shot that the Salvation Mary?

1829
01:10:42,180 --> 01:10:43,180
Salvation Mary?

1830
01:10:43,180 --> 01:10:44,180
Oh yeah.

1831
01:10:44,180 --> 01:10:49,380
Well, that's why I was like, "Oh God, that could be real bad."

1832
01:10:49,380 --> 01:10:55,140
Remember I was saying I was like, "Oh God, that could be a modern day in Selvibe."

1833
01:10:55,140 --> 01:10:56,140
I don't know.

1834
01:10:56,140 --> 01:11:00,540
I feel like if it was a real human person though, there's a difference.

1835
01:11:00,540 --> 01:11:01,540
I feel like.

1836
01:11:01,540 --> 01:11:02,540
Yeah.

1837
01:11:02,540 --> 01:11:03,540
Also, there wasn't a fire that night.

1838
01:11:03,540 --> 01:11:04,540
Yeah.

1839
01:11:04,540 --> 01:11:05,540
We've established.

1840
01:11:05,540 --> 01:11:10,780
So I was like, "Listen, I will always like grasp its draws."

1841
01:11:10,780 --> 01:11:18,220
But then eventually you have to just see that there's not something that explains every

1842
01:11:18,220 --> 01:11:19,220
point.

1843
01:11:19,220 --> 01:11:20,220
Yeah.

1844
01:11:20,220 --> 01:11:24,900
I kind of went off the deep end and I was like, "Well, was it like the sunrise?"

1845
01:11:24,900 --> 01:11:28,340
And I was seeing through the trees, but it was...

1846
01:11:28,340 --> 01:11:33,900
I could see that, but I just distinctly remember it flickering a fire.

1847
01:11:33,900 --> 01:11:34,900
Right.

1848
01:11:34,900 --> 01:11:35,900
Like fire.

1849
01:11:35,900 --> 01:11:36,900
Suns are different.

1850
01:11:36,900 --> 01:11:37,900
It's going to be more of a study.

1851
01:11:37,900 --> 01:11:39,820
You might fit coming through the trees.

1852
01:11:39,820 --> 01:11:40,820
If it's windy, maybe?

1853
01:11:40,820 --> 01:11:41,820
Absolutely.

1854
01:11:41,820 --> 01:11:42,820
I don't know.

1855
01:11:42,820 --> 01:11:45,380
Maybe it was windy and it was a sunrise coming through the trees.

1856
01:11:45,380 --> 01:11:48,500
Stop gaslighting my friends.

1857
01:11:48,500 --> 01:11:50,900
Just trying to think of anything.

1858
01:11:50,900 --> 01:11:56,100
And then I also thought of like Hocus Pocus where they put the car lights coming through

1859
01:11:56,100 --> 01:11:59,020
the window and I'm like, "Oh, was it like a car?"

1860
01:11:59,020 --> 01:12:03,460
I thought of that too when you mentioned the driveway, but those are just very different

1861
01:12:03,460 --> 01:12:04,460
elements.

1862
01:12:04,460 --> 01:12:10,820
I just feel like the way those types of light present, they're very different.

1863
01:12:10,820 --> 01:12:16,380
And the amount of times, I've spent a good amount of time trying to think about it.

1864
01:12:16,380 --> 01:12:21,980
Just look at this and figure out what it was and keep closing my eyes and opening them again.

1865
01:12:21,980 --> 01:12:24,060
The only thing was it didn't move.

1866
01:12:24,060 --> 01:12:25,060
So I'm like that.

1867
01:12:25,060 --> 01:12:26,580
I don't know.

1868
01:12:26,580 --> 01:12:30,980
What stands that still?

1869
01:12:30,980 --> 01:12:34,860
I mean, and otherworldly presents.

1870
01:12:34,860 --> 01:12:36,860
Just pah-pah.

1871
01:12:36,860 --> 01:12:40,860
I mean, it had to...it had to have been.

1872
01:12:40,860 --> 01:12:41,860
It was ghost, you guys.

1873
01:12:41,860 --> 01:12:42,860
I saw ghosts.

1874
01:12:42,860 --> 01:12:43,860
It's fine.

1875
01:12:43,860 --> 01:12:44,860
Yeah.

1876
01:12:44,860 --> 01:12:45,860
It feels like it ghost.

1877
01:12:45,860 --> 01:12:48,540
I got to put my feet back up.

1878
01:12:48,540 --> 01:12:54,740
I think the main reason we pulled that second card was just like the imagery alone.

1879
01:12:54,740 --> 01:12:55,740
Yeah.

1880
01:12:55,740 --> 01:12:56,740
Yeah.

1881
01:12:56,740 --> 01:12:57,740
For sure.

1882
01:12:57,740 --> 01:12:59,740
I mean, that's why I flagged it.

1883
01:12:59,740 --> 01:13:00,740
For sure.

1884
01:13:00,740 --> 01:13:01,740
We're greekey.

1885
01:13:01,740 --> 01:13:02,740
We're greekey on it.

1886
01:13:02,740 --> 01:13:03,740
That's weird.

1887
01:13:03,740 --> 01:13:04,740
All right.

1888
01:13:04,740 --> 01:13:10,820
Well, we hope you guys have a great holiday, whatever you're doing, whatever you celebrate,

1889
01:13:10,820 --> 01:13:12,700
or if you don't celebrate at all.

1890
01:13:12,700 --> 01:13:13,700
Yeah.

1891
01:13:13,700 --> 01:13:14,700
Just have a great day.

1892
01:13:14,700 --> 01:13:15,700
Yeah.

1893
01:13:15,700 --> 01:13:16,700
Just have a great day in general.

1894
01:13:16,700 --> 01:13:17,700
Be safe, as always.

1895
01:13:17,700 --> 01:13:18,700
Yeah.

1896
01:13:18,700 --> 01:13:21,700
Oh, I forgot to tell you I'm going to zoo lights tomorrow.

1897
01:13:21,700 --> 01:13:22,700
Tomorrow?

1898
01:13:22,700 --> 01:13:25,660
Oh, we were supposed to do that.

1899
01:13:25,660 --> 01:13:27,180
My mom invited me.

1900
01:13:27,180 --> 01:13:29,740
Oh, I don't want to intrude on mom and dad.

1901
01:13:29,740 --> 01:13:31,460
She hadn't even listened to the episode yet.

1902
01:13:31,460 --> 01:13:33,620
I mean, if there's still tickets, I forgot to tell you.

1903
01:13:33,620 --> 01:13:34,620
She just asked me.

1904
01:13:34,620 --> 01:13:36,620
I don't know.

1905
01:13:36,620 --> 01:13:37,620
Maybe.

1906
01:13:37,620 --> 01:13:40,180
If there's still tickets, maybe we'll have to ask her what time.

1907
01:13:40,180 --> 01:13:41,180
Okay.

1908
01:13:41,180 --> 01:13:42,180
Yeah.

1909
01:13:42,180 --> 01:13:43,180
Ask her what time.

1910
01:13:43,180 --> 01:13:44,180
Okay.

1911
01:13:44,180 --> 01:13:45,180
She really wants to go.

1912
01:13:45,180 --> 01:13:47,500
I feel like we'd be down if the time works.

1913
01:13:47,500 --> 01:13:48,500
Yeah.

1914
01:13:48,500 --> 01:13:49,500
Okay.

1915
01:13:49,500 --> 01:13:50,500
Zoo lights.

1916
01:13:50,500 --> 01:13:51,500
Remind me after this one week.

1917
01:13:51,500 --> 01:13:52,500
Cut.

1918
01:13:52,500 --> 01:13:53,500
Okay.

1919
01:13:53,500 --> 01:13:54,500
Have a creepy day.

1920
01:13:54,500 --> 01:13:55,500
Have a creepy day.

1921
01:13:55,500 --> 01:13:56,500
Have a creepy day.

1922
01:13:56,500 --> 01:13:57,500
I almost said Halloween.

1923
01:13:57,500 --> 01:14:00,300
And that's not even the right holiday.

1924
01:14:00,300 --> 01:14:01,300
Have a creepy ass holiday.

1925
01:14:01,300 --> 01:14:02,300
Yeah.

1926
01:14:02,300 --> 01:14:03,300
Let's do that.

1927
01:14:03,300 --> 01:14:04,540
Have a creepy ass holiday.

1928
01:14:04,540 --> 01:14:05,540
Have a creepy ass holiday.

1929
01:14:05,540 --> 01:14:06,540
Or not.

1930
01:14:06,540 --> 01:14:09,940
I mean, just do your thing.

1931
01:14:09,940 --> 01:14:10,940
Whatever that is.

1932
01:14:10,940 --> 01:14:11,940
Just make it creepy.

1933
01:14:11,940 --> 01:14:12,940
Right.

1934
01:14:12,940 --> 01:14:18,380
Have a creepy story that you experience over the holidays or anytime or anywhere.

1935
01:14:18,380 --> 01:14:19,580
PNW or not.

1936
01:14:19,580 --> 01:14:23,700
You can email us at pnwhansenhamasites@gmail.com.

1937
01:14:23,700 --> 01:14:25,860
We love to read other people's stories.

1938
01:14:25,860 --> 01:14:30,460
I don't just talk about myself every single time we read people's stories.

1939
01:14:30,460 --> 01:14:31,460
Yeah.

1940
01:14:31,460 --> 01:14:33,060
Like what is she a Leo?

1941
01:14:33,060 --> 01:14:34,060
Wow.

1942
01:14:34,060 --> 01:14:35,060
That was like something.

1943
01:14:35,060 --> 01:14:36,060
I was like, I don't know.

1944
01:14:36,060 --> 01:14:39,900
I want to like tell a scary ghost story, but we didn't have any.

1945
01:14:39,900 --> 01:14:42,380
And I was like, well, I have one.

1946
01:14:42,380 --> 01:14:45,900
Do I just want to talk about myself for Christmas?

1947
01:14:45,900 --> 01:14:46,900
I mean, yeah.

1948
01:14:46,900 --> 01:14:48,660
That's my gift to you guys.

1949
01:14:48,660 --> 01:14:49,660
I love it.

1950
01:14:49,660 --> 01:14:52,700
And if you want to return the gift, please send us a your your ghost story.

1951
01:14:52,700 --> 01:14:55,380
Spooky story, true crime story.

1952
01:14:55,380 --> 01:14:56,380
All of them.

1953
01:14:56,380 --> 01:14:57,380
Santa's story.

1954
01:14:57,380 --> 01:15:00,380
Santa's story.

1955
01:15:00,380 --> 01:15:02,220
There's a Santa skirt.

1956
01:15:02,220 --> 01:15:07,900
Also doesn't really translate for, you know, you could just stand on your chair the whole

1957
01:15:07,900 --> 01:15:09,900
time and we could just get skirt to view.

1958
01:15:09,900 --> 01:15:10,900
Oh, yeah.

1959
01:15:10,900 --> 01:15:12,340
But not an up skirt.

1960
01:15:12,340 --> 01:15:13,340
That's correct.

1961
01:15:13,340 --> 01:15:14,340
Yeah.

1962
01:15:14,340 --> 01:15:15,340
No, thank you for that.

1963
01:15:15,340 --> 01:15:18,140
Well, to be careful when we get the pod cam.

1964
01:15:18,140 --> 01:15:19,540
Wait, the pod dog cam.

1965
01:15:19,540 --> 01:15:21,340
Oh, the pop cam.

1966
01:15:21,340 --> 01:15:22,340
Pop cam.

1967
01:15:22,340 --> 01:15:23,340
Pod dog cam.

1968
01:15:23,340 --> 01:15:24,340
Pop cam.

1969
01:15:24,340 --> 01:15:25,340
Pod, pop cam.

1970
01:15:25,340 --> 01:15:28,340
Batman mobile.

1971
01:15:28,340 --> 01:15:30,500
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