Bonus: True Crime on I-5 (CASHGRAB)

Caitlyn: 0:00

[Theme Music plays under speaker's voice that envokes a true crime, paranormal, & witchy vibe] He told responding officers that he was, quote, "doing well" and wanted to bless others with money.

Cassie: 0:14

Aww, well that's sweet.

Caitlyn: 0:17

In theory.

Cassie: 0:18

where was I that day?

Caitlyn: 0:41

Hi, Cassie,

Cassie: 0:42

Hi, Caitlyn. I thought we already did this.

Caitlyn: 0:44

Did we? [Spoiler alert - we did not already do the intro!]

Cassie: 0:45

I don't remember.

Caitlyn: 0:45

Oh, fuck! In any case, this is a very recent article that I'm going to be talking about. It is so so shallow that there's no way this could be a full episode. And honestly, I don't know what this guy did to get to this point. I'm assuming that this is not that serious of a crime. I mean, that's serious. But like, this is that serious?

Cassie: 1:18

So no murder?

Caitlyn: 1:19

Yeah, no murder.

Cassie: 1:20

Oh, good. Okay. I can deal with that.

Caitlyn: 1:24

Yeah, I thought this would be fun. You know, take a break from the good old fashioned murder. Yeah. This is literally in the last few days.

Cassie: 1:34

Oh, hot off the press!

Caitlyn: 1:36

Hot off the press! On April 11th-

Cassie: 1:42

That was just a few days ago!

Caitlyn: 1:47

Okay, and I've got even a timestamp here. Okay, so don't shit yourself. But at approximately 7:23pm Oregon State Police responded to I-5. Okay, don't call it "Interstate 5." I realize you're a newspaper but come on

Cassie: 2:07

[Fancy sounding] Interstate 5.

Caitlyn: 2:09

Nerds! Near milepost 192 regarding a report of US currency being, let's say- there's no other way to put it, I can't come up with something fancy here. US currency being thrown from a vehicle.

Cassie: 2:33

Yeeted! Come on Caitlyn.

Caitlyn: 2:35

No, I was trying to come up with a clever way, so that it would be like, "wait, what are they doing to money?" You know, like, sometimes legal charges. You're like, "Okay, listen, I know, that's bad. Don't do that." But I don't know what he did.

Cassie: 2:51

I think they should add "yeet" to the criminal system like describing things.

Caitlyn: 2:57

Yeah, let's get that. Yeah. It's part of the lexicon now. You know?

Cassie: 3:02

Yeah.

Caitlyn: 3:03

Police officials located then vehicle nearby and contacted the quote occupant. So, which, again, this is one of those words where I'm like, is he the driver? You say occupant?

Cassie: 3:18

Yeah. Does he live in the car? What does that mean?

Caitlyn: 3:20

I don't know. Well, anyways, this young man, in case you are interested? May- you know, you may have better odds with him than you would with your average Tinder swipe. Okay! Colin Davis McCarthy. 38 years old. From Eugene.

Cassie: 3:45

Oregon?!

Caitlyn: 3:46

Yeah. Eugene, Oregon. Who you talkin' to? So, I have a direct quote here from Mr. McCarthy. He told responding officers that he was, quote, "doing well," and wanted to bless others with loss of money.

Cassie: 4:10

Aww. Well, that's sweet.

Caitlyn: 4:13

In theory.

Cassie: 4:14

Where was I that day?

Caitlyn: 4:15

I like are you kidding me? Do you have any idea how much time a certain someone I know has spent driving back and forth to Eugene, in the last three months?

Cassie: 4:28

Just waiting for money to fly at you.

Caitlyn: 4:31

For fuck sake. Anyway, it's fine. I'm not bitter about it at all. Okay. Police warned McCarthy that apparently that's littering. They were pretty concerned though about creating a hazard on the interstate because, you know, throwing money out your car window. It tends to have that effect.

Cassie: 4:59

Yeah. You might stop and try to get some of the or- yeah.

Caitlyn: 5:05

So this early article that I found said that it was an undetermined sum of money. I believe they have since determined the sum of money. So I will come back to that. Okay. Now, Cassie, if you had to guess, on a five, especially in Eugene area, generally, I think people are going about anywhere between 55 and I don't know. 85.

Cassie: 5:37

That's very generous of you, I would say anywhere between 40 and 100.

Caitlyn: 5:43

It really is. It's all across the board. That's fair. You know what, you're right! You're right.

Cassie: 5:48

Not even because of traffic, the 40.

Caitlyn: 5:51

No, 40 is that one guy in the center lane who just- You're not even sure he knows he's driving. You know?

Cassie: 6:02

Yeah. It's a little concerning.

Caitlyn: 6:04

Is he aware that he's in a car? Someone should tell him, you know?

Cassie: 6:09

Roll down your window, throw a lot of cash out and tell him he's driving.

Caitlyn: 6:14

You know what the guy going 40? Sadly, he's the only one going slow enough to be able to react to this scenario. Now, would you how would you respond in this situation? Because myself, I'm like, I probably want the money. I'm almost certain I really want the money, if I'm being honest. But, I'm also on the freeway. I'm on highway. It's like, what's a girl to do, you know?

Cassie: 6:48

Again, depends if it was flying at my windshield.

Caitlyn: 6:52

And you just open your window and hope that some floats in?

Cassie: 6:54

Well, I would probably panic slam on the brakes cause a giant accident. And now I'm realizing why they pulled him over.

Caitlyn: 7:03

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, quite a few motorists had stopped to gather money. Which apparently, was also dangerous, and negatively impacted the flow of traffic.

Cassie: 7:21

It's like a dam of money.

Caitlyn: 7:25

I love that. Love that. I'm just saying, I know how much money he had. And I'm just saying, like you do what you gotta do? You know?

Cassie: 7:37

I often think about what would happen if I was in a situation to have to grab a bunch of money or like a bunch of stuff? Like one of those game shows where you could grab all the stuff

Caitlyn: 7:47

Oh, yeah!

Cassie: 7:48

I constantly- okay, it's not constantly but I frequently think about that.

Caitlyn: 7:53

More than probably is average?

Cassie: 7:55

Probably, yeah.

Caitlyn: 7:57

I have small hands. So it's a concern for me as well.

Cassie: 8:00

So what you do is grab and shove down the boobs area. Yeah, grab and shove grab.

Caitlyn: 8:04

I mean, anywhere you can put them.

Cassie: 8:06

Wear a V-neck.

Caitlyn: 8:08

Elastic waistband. There you go.

Cassie: 8:11

Cargo pants. Priceless tips you guys. You won't get this anywhere else.

Caitlyn: 8:19

No, you definitely won't hear even podcasters, female podcasters admitting to wearing cargo pants anywhere else. Do you own cargo pants?

Cassie: 8:32

I want to now!

Caitlyn: 8:33

I mean, I hate to derail like this, but-

Cassie: 8:39

I'm gonna bring them back guys. I'm bringing them back. No purses, just Cargo pants.

Caitlyn: 8:44

No purses, just cargo pants. Wow, I feel like I want to put that on a t-shirt. Um, okay, so danger, you know, general possibility of imminent destruction. The good news is that somehow in the last, you know, handful of days because we're recording this on Saturday, April 15. They have managed to pick it all up. So there the hazard is now no longer.

Cassie: 9:16

Yeah, don't go looking for some cash.

Caitlyn: 9:19

Just throw that out there, you know, probably should have lead with that.

Cassie: 9:22

I don't believe it though. Because I think they had to say that so people wouldn't go foraging on the side of the road. I don't think there's any way they could say that. Got it all.

Caitlyn: 9:32

Well, I have some bad news.

Cassie: 9:34

Oh, shit.

Caitlyn: 9:36

After Mr. McCarthy through 1000s of dollars in cash out the window of his car. Unfortunately, family members of Mr. McCarthy well, they found that their bank accounts are totally emptied.

Cassie: 9:59

Oh no! He stole from his family!

Caitlyn: 10:03

[Whispering] Apparently, allegedly.

Cassie: 10:06

Were they dicks?!

Caitlyn: 10:09

I mean, I don't know.

Cassie: 10:11

Not that you would ever deserve someone to steal from you. I'm just saying.

Caitlyn: 10:14

I, but like if you're a dick, like I'm gonna care a lot.

Cassie: 10:18

Yes. I was trying to think I know Robin Hood. Yeah. Yeah. Like they're just terrible. They Yeah, that's what I want to think. But I highly doubt it.

Caitlyn: 10:26

I'm gonna give it to the people of the great State of Oregon. So anyways, update on the amount of cash. Cassie, do you have any guesses?

Cassie: 10:42

[In the style of Dr. Evil] $1 million.

Caitlyn: 10:44

That's too many.

Cassie: 10:46

Okay. 33,000.

Caitlyn: 10:48

Okay, well, that's too few. But that's fine. Because I didn't want you to guess high. I wanted you to guess low!

Cassie: 10:54

333,000!

Caitlyn: 10:56

No, no, leave it at 33,000. That is your final answer. According to the Oregon State Police, McCarthy told them he had dispersed about $200,000!

Cassie: 11:11

That's a lot!

Caitlyn: 11:12

That's a lot of fuckin money. Yeah. It's like, did he still have more money when they found him?

Cassie: 11:22

Yeah. Did he throw it all out?

Caitlyn: 11:23

I have questions.

Cassie: 11:25

Did he have a sunroof? Or was it like, just like chucked out the side door?

Caitlyn: 11:29

That is another very, very important question. Okay, I think this my answer for us. I mean, not technically, but in a anecdotal science type of way.

Cassie: 11:49

Can I make one more guess? He just like tied the bundled bag of like dollar bills to the roof of the car and drove so that they would just like fly out.

Caitlyn: 12:00

I don't know. It's possible. I doubt it based on this next part. So after they located the quote, occupant of the vehicle, the Oregon State Police stuck around for a while in the area to ensure public safety because I don't know. I guess they were doing their jobs. But they did not charge McCarthy with a crime. I assume that if he stole money from relatives, there will be charges forthcoming. Maybe just not related to what this stunt entails. Yeah. Incident the incident if you will. The cash grab.

Cassie: 12:46

Cash grab, I want it!

Caitlyn: 12:50

So we know bystanders picked up the money. It sounds like it was almost completely gone by 8pm. That night.

Cassie: 13:00

Wow.

Caitlyn: 13:01

So whatever he was doing, I'm picturing just like a duffel bag in his passenger seat. And I'm thinking he's just like throwing fistfuls a hash out the window.

Cassie: 13:15

I mean, it's very generous for someone who's committing a crime, of stealing.

Caitlyn: 13:22

I feel like what I really want in this scenario, you guys? I really want Forensic Files to do a reenactment.

Cassie: 13:34

We should do a reenactment!

Caitlyn: 13:41

Well, it doesn't sound like any one person was able to grab on to that much cash. So this is a quote from someone that OSP talked to. At the site.

Cassie: 13:56

Oregon State Police?

Caitlyn: 13:57

Yes. Okay, just checking. It's $100 bills floating around. And I'm like, "whaaaat?!"

Cassie: 14:02

Hunnid!

Caitlyn: 14:03

Hunnid! Oh, my God, Cassie.

Cassie: 14:08

I did it! It's because there was no pressure.

Caitlyn: 14:13

You did good. You did good. It's $100 bills floating around. And I'm like "whaaaat?!" So my boyfriend and I decided to go one way he goes the other way. And so far, I found $300.

Cassie: 14:30

Oh, I mean, that's a lot for some people like me who don't have any.

Caitlyn: 14:34

Yeah, like, I wouldn't be super psyched. But I pictured people like, you know-

Cassie: 14:40

Like cash grab like stuffing their bras with hunnids.

Caitlyn: 14:44

Yeah, yeah. The police actually later spoke with a relative of McCarthy. Notice that we don't have a name to attribute.

Cassie: 14:56

Yeah, I wouldn't want to give my name either.

Caitlyn: 14:59

Police word told by this relative that this type of behavior was apparently normal for him.

Cassie: 15:06

Like stealing and throwing cash out the window or just stealing in general?

Caitlyn: 15:11

It's not entirely clear, but I'll read on. The relative also told troopers that McCarthy gained the money he threw on the interstate by draining his family shared accounts. Okay, we already knew that. Okay.

Cassie: 15:26

Why do you have shared accounts with this guy?

Caitlyn: 15:28

Oh, we didn't know that's, that's interesting! We thought this was something that was like maybe fraud. These are shared accounts. There's really no other information at this time. But I'll be honest, McCarthy sounds like a serious asshole. But like I said, you know, could be better than your average Tinder swipe. And also, like, I know, we love to love a bad boy. You know, if you're still in that phase, if that's still your jam, like you're still trying to hit it and quit it with that kind of dude, get after it.

Cassie: 16:11

I'm not! She's staring at me so hard. I'm not!

Caitlyn: 16:15

I just I need to know if I'm saying stupid things are funny things.

Cassie: 16:20

They're funny.

Caitlyn: 16:21

Okay. I look at your face. Like your face tells me if I sound like a raving lunatic or the next Iliza Shlesinger. [Slurs] Shlesinger.

Cassie: 16:34

Love her! She's so fucking funny.

Caitlyn: 16:38

Are we going to do a Tarot read for this shit?

Cassie: 16:40

I think we should. I mean, it's what we do.

Caitlyn: 16:43

We're professionals. [Magic wand chimes]

Cassie: 16:47

So we've had a couple of glasses of wine. And our mascara is also running because we've been talking in between all of the things for this episode. So we're not doing a video for the Patreon. Sorry.

Caitlyn: 17:00

This was a very serious recording day because we decided to do silly shit.

Cassie: 17:06

You know, Girls Just Want to Have Fun.

Caitlyn: 17:08

Yeah. And it turns out we're girls so you know, congrats.

Cassie: 17:12

We're having fun with some wine. We're spooky, whichy, "bitchies". Am I pulling or are you pulling?

Caitlyn: 17:20

You do it.

Cassie: 17:22

Cuz I like had a spot.

Caitlyn: 17:24

I feel like you're identifying this case in a way that I didn't really expect. But-

Cassie: 17:28

I don't know why. I just like really want money.

Caitlyn: 17:32

Yeah, you know, I felt like it really-

Cassie: 17:35

You know what? I want to put this out there. I don't want money. I'm just waiting to get my money because I know it's coming.

Caitlyn: 17:42

Yeah, I felt like this case was a little bit of a slap in the face.

Cassie: 17:48

You know, what I also was thinking about is all the people waiting in traffic. And then to realize why you were waiting in traffic. And you didn't get I would be so pissed. Like you didn't know you don't know what's happening up there. You think it's another wreck? Yeah, no, it's money flying out the window. And you didn't get any of it.

Caitlyn: 18:10

I know. But I wonder it was so late at night that I don't think there was like Rush hour traffic at least.

Cassie: 18:16

But if they're stopped in the road, that's gonna create.

Caitlyn: 18:20

Doesn't sound like he was, they had to go and find him. [Wedding Crashers quote] "I'll find you."

Cassie: 18:26

But other people stopped, right. I was just thinking of like, if anybody stopped in the road, like it's gonna create some traffic.

Caitlyn: 18:33

Yeah, I think that it sounds like probably all of the other bystanders, they pulled off safely.

Cassie: 18:41

Okay, that's what it's kind of just like, maybe there was one lane blocked. Maybe. But yeah, maybe not.

Caitlyn: 18:47

Potentially. It's hard to say. Yeah. Without, you know, without the Forensic Files reenactment we may never know.

Cassie: 18:55

I just really like to picture in my head like the rage of the people who didn't get the money.

Caitlyn: 19:03

Stapler.

Cassie: 19:04

Okay. What card did I get I don't know. I turned it over without even noticing. Oh, it's the two of wands. Two of Wands. 201 watching, and it's kind of a cool bricky- like a brick tattoo style. Reminds me a Machine Gun Kelly's stomach.

Caitlyn: 19:25

Alright... Upright?.

Cassie: 19:26

Yeah, it's upright.

Caitlyn: 19:27

Okay. Our keywords are developing goals. involvement in a creative project. Taking action.

Cassie: 19:37

Throwing money out the window.

Caitlyn: 19:40

Choices.

Cassie: 19:42

There were some choices made.

Caitlyn: 19:44

Lots of choices and were made.

Cassie: 19:46

I like when you said the other day "it was a choice."

Caitlyn: 19:52

This card shows you taking action to accomplish something you feel passionately about.

Cassie: 19:58

Wow! Because like what he did.

Caitlyn: 20:02

Possibly, oh boy. A creative project, a business or adventure.

Cassie: 20:10

It was an adventure.

Caitlyn: 20:11

I think so, or maybe a fourth category miscellaneous.

Cassie: 20:17

It was a miscellaneous adventure.

Caitlyn: 20:19

Yeah. You may have to make a choice between two options or bring two factors together to achieve success.

Cassie: 20:28

Steal or don't steal?Steal or don't steal? Steal if I throw it out the window, okay.

Caitlyn: 20:35

You're beginning to assert yourself taking charge of an endeavor. Oh, boy. Are you ever! Upright, the two shows you waiting to see results in a venture, you feel confident of your success. You won't accept advice or assistance from someone else. But you won't compromise your position or leadership.

Cassie: 21:02

Just like it just makes me think of the cop. Like, why did you do this? "I'm doing well."

Caitlyn: 21:09

I am doing well. Bitch, you are not well. Okay, well, I'm gonna read the interpretation about money because I don't think the other to apply. In a reading about money, This card indicates you may benefit from other people's guidance.

Cassie: 21:31

I thought you were going to say "other people's money!"

Caitlyn: 21:35

You may benefit from other people's guidance, ideas and encouragement, but want to make it on your own rather than depending on others.

Cassie: 21:45

That yeah, that kind of makes sense. Like you're stealing other people's money, but like you're giving it away to people. Yeah, like that's on you. You're the hero in the situation.

Caitlyn: 21:58

Oh, man. Yeah, this card is basically like, "Hey, you. Yeah, you're so cute. Um, you should step away from the bag of money." Upright, or the reverse is basically like "Don't, don't, don't fucking touch the money."

Cassie: 22:15

Really?

Caitlyn: 22:15

Yeah. Don't fucking touch it.

Cassie: 22:18

Just don't. Yeah, it's not if it's not yours. If it's yours-

Caitlyn: 22:22

Don't fuckin' touch it!.

Cassie: 22:23

If it's your's still maybe don't throw it out the window and like, create a dangerous situation, but give it away all you want. But if it's not yours...

Caitlyn: 22:30

Or, like just also be like a responsible adult, maybe? I don't know. You get like a wild hair. Maybe you're just, you know. You ask the bank for a smaller sum of money and a smaller denomination. You know?

Cassie: 22:50

Yeah. And you know, they make-

Caitlyn: 22:52

Throw ones out the window.

Cassie: 22:53

There's these weird things, they're like nonprofit organizations, and you can like, give your money to them. And then they give it to people. Yeah. So like, you don't have to throw your money, like actual cash at people? [Sarcastic]

Caitlyn: 23:06

God, what the fuck do they call that? Like a charitable cause?

Cassie: 23:12

Yeah, charity. That's weird. [Sarcastic]

Caitlyn: 23:16

Okay. [Evil laughs] We're evil!

Cassie: 23:22

Man, is there any extras?

Caitlyn: 23:26

There are not.

Cassie: 23:27

Damnit, I really like when there's an extra.

Caitlyn: 23:30

I know, me too! Okay, well, there's not. Like for the two of wands, but-

Cassie: 23:37

I was gonna say, look on a different page.

Caitlyn: 23:40

There is one for the three of wands. And we got the three of cups earlier. And like, I'm just gonna go with it. So deal with it. Hidden alliances work to move you into your authentic vocation as soon as you begin to commit to it. So I think that he probably is feeling guided. And he's misinterpreting the guidance. Probably. It would behoove you to look at- if they'll still have you, after you deal with whatever charges are pending. Maybe look at you know, working for a nonprofit. You know?

Cassie: 24:26

Yeah, do some real good. Do real good in the world. Not just throwing your cash out the window and hope it lands somewhere good. Like, yeah, you have to put intention into where your money's going. I feel like.

Caitlyn: 24:36

I feel like that's good.

Cassie: 24:38

The moral of the story is...

Caitlyn: 24:41

Yeah, it's a nice way to sum it up.

Together: 24:43

Have a creepy ass day!

Caitlyn: 24:45

See you next Tuesday, or whenever we feel like it because it's a bonus. You know? You get it.

Cassie: 24:54

Yeah, we get it.

Caitlyn: 24:54

Okay.

Cassie: 24:56

I hope that you find $300 on the side of the road. I wish that for all you.

Caitlyn: 25:02

At least! At least.

Cassie: 25:04

At the very least.

Caitlyn: 25:05

At the very least. [Magic wand chimes] As part of the bonus episode we're serving up this week. We're also serving up a hot tip about a podcast that we think you'll enjoy. Live, Laugh, Larceny is a comedy podcast that parodies True Crime podcasts. Each week hosts Amanda and Trevin take bizarre small time crimes and turn them into short stories played like an audio drama. Whether you're a true crime fan needing a break from the heavy, or a comedy fan, looking for a good laugh, these petty crimes won't disappoint. Some of the crimes they've covered include two old men fighting over free Costco samples, a high speed chase when a man taught his dog how to drive and the story of a man who sued his company after they threw him a birthday party. Really petty stuff here. We've also got Amanda's story from Live, Laugh, Larceny's 104th episode entitled, "Pooped and Duped" for your listening pleasure.

Live, Laugh, Larceny: 25:33

And we are back to stories. So I am going first this week. I have yet another story from the news. The news is poppin lately, the news is poppin. Honestly, this one really isn't super, super recent. But I think it's something that could happen really at any time and at any place. So it's something we still all need to watch out for. Great. I'll keep my guard up. And here we go. I think it is safe to say that we have all experienced someone who has gotten on our nerves. Maybe it's the lady in your office who sneezes extra loudly for attention. Perhaps it's your overly competitive brother in law. You call that a healthy stream? Or maybe it's hearing your own voice on a podcast. larceny. I sound stupid. But my story today won't be about a simple annoyance between two people. Oh no. Today, I'll be talking about a straight up rivalry. an all consuming and escalating vengeance that turns so foul, that it rocked a tight knit neighborhood to its core. 57 year old Amy and 67 year old K almost seem destined to become sworn enemies from their very first encounter. They had shown up to the same neighborhood Superbowl party, each representing their team from head to toe. The only problem was that they represented opposing teams. From that meeting on, it became clear that the two had completely different beliefs and values. But deep down, they shared many of the same insecurities, causing resentment and a rivalry to form. This took place gradually over time, as both women were involved in their upscale community in the Woodfield Country Club in Boca Raton, Florida. Even though the women disliked each other, it was nearly impossible to avoid the other living in the same neighborhood. The feud started out small, with K making a remark about one of Amy's handbags being from last season. This caused me to constantly bring up how K was nearly a decade older than her. K acted offended by Amy storebought desserts. Well, Amy despised and avoided ks yapping dog. Eventually, K started a rumor about Amy and Amy retaliated with a rumor about K. The tension continued to build between the two women, as the whole neighborhood felt the pressure to choose sides. When March had come around, the rivalry was at peak stress level. Both Amy and Kay had become completely obsessed with taking down the other in any way possible. It was around 3pm One afternoon when Amy stood at her sink quickly finishing her dishes. She knew that it was around this time that k would be taking her yapping dog on a walk through the neighborhood. Amy knew this because it had become a sick routine for Kay to allow her dog to defecate in Amy's yard without scooping it up afterwards. Amy had found this is out the hard way, after she stepped in a pile of turds while gathering her mail one morning. Since then, she vowed to catch Kay in the act and make her pay once and for all. Like clockwork, Amy spotted Kay with her dog heading straight towards her manicured lawn. Amy peered out her window watching case every move. It was then that Kay guided her dog over to Amy's lawn. The small dog smelled the familiar grass as he circled the area and began to squat. slowly and deliberately, the dog left a pile of fresh feces on her yard. Amy was fuming as she looked up at case smiling face and she rushed outside. Hey, clean up your dog shit off my lawn where I'm recording you to our HOA. Amy threatened as she approached Kay on her sidewalk. I was going to pick it up. But if you're going to yell, then you can clean it up yourself. Que scoffed back. Rage had taken over Amy's body as she stomped back into her house and grabbed a plastic baggie. rushing back to her front yard. She grabbed the still warm puppy poo up and threw it towards K. On March 18 of 2015 57 year old Amy Goldberg was accused of throwing dog feces at her 67 year old neighbor in the Woodfield Country Club in Boca Raton, Florida. Amy says that her neighbor habitually allowed her dog to poop in her yard without any effort to clean it up. She also stated that the two neighbors had a long history of bad blood. But the neighbor and Amy told the authorities two different versions of what happened next. The neighbor claimed the after AMI through the poop, ami picked it back up and smeared the poop on the neighbor's arms and face. Amy insists however, that she only threw the poop in her neighbor's general direction, and that the

Caitlyn: 32:56

are listening if you have any true crime or neighbor had smeared the poop on herself to frame Ami. Regardless, ami was charged with battery of a person 65 years or older. This charge came with the possible sentence of three years in jail, and Amy could have been fined $10,000. Luckily for her on January 8 of 2016, a Palm Beach County judge granted Amy's petition to have the criminal record of the incident expunged. Rivalries can become a pretty intense thing. They can take up all your energy and effort just to try and prove that you are the superior individual. So if you find yourself in the middle of one of these toxic situations, it may be good to take a step back. Or you too could find yourself in a heap of shit. That is one way to handle a situation. Wow. Yeah. So I did want to clarify a couple quick things. The name of the neighbor K is completely made up. I figured the neighbor probably just stayed anonymous. Yes. So the only actual real name is Amy because she was the one that was charged. And yeah, I looked far and wide to find the neighbor's name and couldn't. Also, Amy does have a statement that says that there was a lot of bad blood between them just like I said in the last paragraph. But as far as what they did to each other and the bad blood obviously, I had fun with that. Right? I don't know what led to this moment. I could only imagine and I had some fun. And then also the other detail that I really wanted to know that I couldn't find was anything about this dog. I don't know if it's a big dog. I say in my story. It was a small dog just because that seems funnier to me that somebody would get really really mad about a dog sitting in their yard and it was like a tiny turd I don't know though I couldn't find out the name of a dog a type of breed any sort of detail in any way shape or form. So do you think the woman smeared shown herself or do you think the girl through it? I have gone back and forth and back and forth with my own personal opinions. I wanted to make sure that I told both sides and that I didn't just finish the storytelling one side, because that's just how torn I am. And also I can only see Amy's mugshot. Not that I gain anything by being able to see the other person but it, maybe it's because I can just see how sad she looks in her mugshot that I'm like, come on, like Amy couldn't have been all bad. But it's hard to say. Right? Okay for me, I'm picturing these are two women, they live in a very upscale area like high end houses in Florida. There's clearly bad blood between them. Something had to happen for her to I feel like snap unless she's just that wild of a human being. Right. Right. And so for me, I don't know. I think maybe Amy was framed question mark frame me. And even Amy herself, she admitted. They agree on the whole entire situation. Except for the very last detail. Amy admits that she went out there and yelled at her and threw the dog poop in her general direction. But she's like, I never touched her. And for me, if you're going to admit to that part of it, why wouldn't you just admit to everything? But also who would rub dog poop on themselves? I mean, I can picture some wacky ass people that are just so overcome with emotion and anger. They're just like, Oh, get you just start covering themselves in it. And honestly, if I was Amy, in my heart of hearts, I know I didn't hit her with the dog shit. Yeah, I would never go near that woman again. Oh, if she will cover herself in poop. To teach you a lesson, then I don't know what else they're capable of. Know straight up. Can you even imagine throwing a bag of dog turds at your frickin neighborhood enemy. Okay. And then they pick it up and they're like, oh, yeah, sort of smearing on them making eye contact the whole time. I mean, that's another level but I don't know why that seems more believable to me. Florida one. Because I mean, it's pretty wild. Even just throw a bag of dog poop, let alone smear it on someone. Yeah. That part in my question, too is Did she call the cops and just sit there was shit on herself until somebody showed up? Or did she like jump in the car and drive to the police station? Like look at this? Obviously, I didn't do it to myself, because she didn't just automatically clean it off herself. If you should on me. I would have washed it off first. Yes. Not setting it longer for evidence. Yeah. And she had to be the one that call the cops. Thank you for listening to this preview of our show. To hear the full story and many other petty crimes. Listen and subscribe to live laugh larceny on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. us to share, maybe with the whole Pacific Northwest.

Cassie: 45:44

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Caitlyn: 45:47

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Cassie: 45:51

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Caitlyn: 46:31

Agreed.

Cassie: 46:32

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Bitchin! [Music that envokes a true crime, paranormal, & witchy vibe]

Cassie: 47:18

Should we TikTok about it?

Caitlyn: 47:20

Listen, I just feel like in today's crazy modern world, most problems shouldn't be just TikTok about it?

Cassie: 47:31

I feel like most people do. Yeah, if you add what's his butt into the TikTok it makes like everything so much better.

Caitlyn: 47:38

Who's what's his butt?

Cassie: 47:40

We were talking about the other day and I was like-

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[Gasp] Pedro Pascal!

Cassie: 47:42

Yes! He's in every TikTok ever that I've ever seen in the last like two three weeks.

Caitlyn: 47:50

Mm, he is a tasty snack.

Cassie: 47:52

I don't hate it. I just don't understand.

Caitlyn: 47:58

I just I don't know what it is about this mans.

Cassie: 48:01

He's so sweet and cute... and tough.

Caitlyn: 48:04

Yeah, cute? Okay. Why don't you come back to me when you're like really having the hots for Pedro. Okay?

Cassie: 48:12

Like his personality is cute.

Caitlyn: 48:13

Vote Pedro!

Cassie: 48:13

You know he's cute when he's doing the funny things and you know the TikTok.

Caitlyn: 48:17

It is.

Cassie: 48:18

Eating a sandwich or whatever the fuck he does.

Caitlyn: 48:20

Oh my God. Why is he always eating the loudest tiny sandwich that I've ever fucking seen? [Starts to whisper] And I have made sandwiches out of peanut butter and saltines.

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[Attempts to say in unison, horribly fails into laughter] Have a creepy ass day!

Caitlyn: 48:40

We can do it again. [Cassie snorts, Caitlyn laughs heartily]