A Very Weirdo Pod Fam Holiday Special

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,000 [Music] 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,000 Christine, please don't hang up. 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,000 I know I'm probably the last person you want to hear from, after I ran away to the big city. 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,000 But when I saw you hanging Christmas lights with Roger, I got scared. 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:25,000 The tinsel and decorations from my works holiday party is nothing like what I experienced in a style j-town with you. 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,000 I know now the true meaning of Christmas is our love. 7 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,000 If you'll have me, I want to spend the rest of my life making it up to you. 8 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,000 It's a Christmas miracle! 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,000 I'm going to march into the holiday party and tell Mr. Manager that I quit! 10 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,000 Then I'm on the first flight back to nostalgia town with you. 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,000 I love you too! I'll see you shortly. 12 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,000 What the? 13 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:56,000 Oh hey, I didn't see you there. 14 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,000 Sorry you had to witness that. 15 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:04,000 I'm sure you had a great Christmas love story unfolding, but you sort of picked the wrong place to have a big holiday realization. 16 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,000 How rude of me. I haven't even introduced myself. 17 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,000 My name is Stuart. I'm a non-denomination holiday cryptid. 18 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:17,000 Basically my soul lies dormant on regular days, only allowing my physical form to materialize during holidays. 19 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:21,000 Hanukkah, Easter, October Fest, you name it. 20 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,000 I even had Columbus Day for a little over 200 years, but everyone challenged its legitimacy. 21 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,000 Hello, that one made me feel a little weird anyway. 22 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:35,000 As a young blood thirsty sky beast, I used to do my part with population control, feeding on the innocent and causing destruction. 23 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,000 But recently I've just been really into podcasts. 24 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:45,000 Ever since I discovered how good any podcasts are, I've spent every holiday that I'm materialized, catching up on all my favorite shows. 25 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:50,000 And being a bit of an anomaly myself, I'm a sucker for weird and interesting content. 26 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,000 Oh look you there! 27 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:57,000 My first holiday story is finished downloading. I can share your butt with you if you'd like to listen with. 28 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,000 Let me just sweep these in trails out of the way so you can have a seat. 29 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,000 There we go. 30 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:08,000 This first story is from a couple of goofballs that go by Live, Laugh, Larceny, a true petty crime podcast. 31 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:13,000 They specialize in taking dumb criminal headlines and turn them into cheesy, overly dramatic short stories. 32 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,000 It's very different, and the sound effects kill me. 33 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:20,000 Here's my other ear butt if you don't mind putting that in. 34 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,000 It's a perfect fit. 35 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,000 Let's press play and see what's in store for this ear. 36 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:32,000 All the Florida people in Wellington, like Jesus a lot. 37 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:37,000 But the Grinch, Danielle Santino, who walked past it, did not. 38 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,000 Danielle hated Christmas and religious belief. 39 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,000 Please don't ask why her and the Lord just had beef. 40 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,000 It could be perhaps that their bells woke her up every morning. 41 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:54,000 It could be that she found their sermons to be boring. 42 00:02:54,000 --> 00:03:02,000 But I think the most likely reason of all is that her religious tolerance was too size too small. 43 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:07,000 But whatever the reason, their sermons or bells, their shouts to the heavens, 44 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,000 made Danielle feel like hell. 45 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,000 Staring across the street with a bias, Grinchy frown, 46 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:19,000 a new lawn ornament appeared for the people to gather around. 47 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,000 For she knew every member of the center across the street 48 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:28,000 loved that their religious statues were the first thing people would see. 49 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,000 Christmas was yesterday. 50 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,000 She snarled with a sneer. 51 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,000 They had 25 days of their incessant cheer. 52 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:40,000 Then she formed an idea deep in her asshole brain. 53 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,000 That celebration must be stopped. 54 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,000 Not another single day. 55 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:52,000 For tomorrow I know all the Wellington people will loudly sing hymns of praise to the steeple. 56 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:57,000 Oh those ancient songs, all those song, song, songs. 57 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:03,000 If there's one thing I hate, it's those song, song, songs. 58 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,000 They'll stand close together with the pipe organ blaring, 59 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,000 feeling very uncomfortable in the ugly sweaters they're wearing. 60 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:17,000 Still singing, still singing, still singing, singing, singing. 61 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,000 And the more Danielle thought of their tone deaf singing, 62 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:26,000 the more Danielle thought, "I must end this whole thing." 63 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,000 Why, since Thanksgiving night, the decorations lit the town. 64 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,000 The holiday has passed. 65 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,000 It must end now. 66 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:40,000 Then she got an idea, an intolerant idea. 67 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,000 She got the most wonderful, intolerant idea. 68 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,000 "I know just what I'll do." 69 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,000 Danielle laughed and she swayed. 70 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,000 "I'll kidnap baby Jesus. 71 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,000 I'll take him away." 72 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:59,000 "It's September 26th," she grinsially said, 73 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,000 as she put on all black and slipped a mask over her head. 74 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,000 She walked softly and quietly as she approached the manger. 75 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:13,000 Joseph and Mary stared in fear at the sight of the stranger. 76 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,000 "I've heard a lot about you, baby Jesus," she shouted with glee. 77 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,000 "Now get in the bag. 78 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,000 You're coming with me." 79 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,000 That she attempted to pick up the sweet baby Lord. 80 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,000 Her motion was stopped by a tight safety cord. 81 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,000 "You think that will stop me?" Danielle said with a chuckle. 82 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,000 As she cut through the rope and through that baby in her duffel. 83 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:42,000 Her feet ran across the street with the Holy Spirit and toe, 84 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:47,000 knocking quietly on the window of her good friend, Fernando. 85 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:51,000 "What do you want?" said the voice of her friend. 86 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,000 "I brought you a late present. 87 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,000 Now please, let me in." 88 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,000 Danielle began to explain. 89 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,000 Fernando held out his hand. 90 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:05,000 "Some people accept Christ in their hearts, but I've got him in this bag. 91 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,000 I appreciate the gesture," said Fernando. 92 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,000 "But you stole. 93 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:14,000 I'll accept this gift out of politeness, but you should probably go." 94 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,000 Danielle left without a fight, escaping into the night. 95 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,000 No longer would the center be Mary and Bright. 96 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,000 But as the sun rose above, the center on December 27th. 97 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:30,000 In walked past her Marty, the 377th. 98 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,000 He unlocked the worship hall with his old creepy keys. 99 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:39,000 He filled his watering can with holy water to water the holy trees. 100 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,000 Walking the grounds, he cleaned it up of any trash. 101 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:49,000 And looked up to the manger to see baby Jesus had been snatched. 102 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:54,000 "Oh, golly-g!" he wailed the way a holy man could. 103 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:59,000 "I'm not going to curse, but the situation, it's not good." 104 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,000 Only prayers can save us from a time of great stress. 105 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:09,000 So Marty got on his knees and activated baby Jesus' GPS. 106 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,000 Now, before you listen to think, this is a fun turn of phrase. 107 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,000 I mean this in the most literal of ways. 108 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,000 This isn't the church's first baby Jesus rodeo. 109 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,000 They've got years of experience with their savior being stole. 110 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,000 So just as Jesus looks down over you and me, 111 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:32,000 his forever baby body is watched over by technology. 112 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,000 They pinged his location and he was surprisingly close. 113 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,000 Just across the street, on a pile of Fernando's clothes. 114 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,000 "Police!" 115 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,000 As they questioned the boy in his vial act, 116 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,000 "Why would you do this?" 117 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,000 He flipped like a pancake and stabbed Daniel in the back. 118 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,000 So what happened then? 119 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,000 Well in Willington they say, 120 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:57,000 "That Grinch got booked for a Florida man's day." 121 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,000 There she sat in the Palm Beach County jail 122 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:05,000 with a single charge of theft and a lump of coal in her cell. 123 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,000 And then the true meaning of Christmas came through, 124 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,000 that you probably shouldn't steal such a popular loot. 125 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,000 So welcome Christmas. 126 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,000 Bring your cheer. 127 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,000 Cheer to all the Florida people, far and near. 128 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,000 Cheer to the baths, salters, the shoplifters and stuff. 129 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,000 As long as they have hands to cuff. 130 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:31,000 Florida crimes will always be, as long as we have we. 131 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,000 Welcome petty criminals as we stand, 132 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,000 with petty hearts and red hands. 133 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:42,000 Wow. 134 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,000 I need that book printed immediately. 135 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,000 Okay. We made a little eye contact during this story. 136 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,000 When you said the 377th, 137 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,000 clarify immediately. 138 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,000 That wasn't really a real thing. 139 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,000 I was like, there is no way. 140 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,000 That was me doing a sucess. 141 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,000 Okay. 142 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,000 I was doing Pastor Marty, which is another Marty, 143 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,000 but I was saying he was Pastor Marty of 377th. 144 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,000 It helped make the rhyme, 145 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,000 but I'd like to think that he just came from a line of 300 plus Pastor Marty's. 146 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,000 I was like, if this is somehow, 147 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,000 was some way a truth in this story? 148 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,000 I need to know details. 149 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,000 Okay. 150 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,000 That is not. 151 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,000 So they had a GPS in Baby Jesus. 152 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,000 Apparently, this is very common. 153 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,000 Oh wow. 154 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,000 I learned a whole expo-zay on it. 155 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,000 I mean, we've all heard stories. 156 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,000 I mean, Baby Jesus, this is in Joseph Samarrius, 157 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,000 gets stole from the manger all the time. 158 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,000 Yeah. 159 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,000 But I guess a lot of these security places, 160 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,000 normally if you're going to sign up for like a brings or some sort of a thing as a church, 161 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,000 they're trying to get you to sign up for like a year or so. 162 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,000 Yeah. 163 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,000 But they were actually running holiday deals to say, 164 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,000 okay, you can sign on with us for one month only, 165 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,000 because we understand how important it is that you protect Baby Jesus. 166 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,000 There's no like hassle to try to get you to do more. 167 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,000 Sure, everybody needs security, 168 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,000 but you need extra security on these things. 169 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,000 So a lot of churches will, or community centers, 170 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,000 as this one was, will sign on and put these GPS trackers 171 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:19,000 in their highly stolen Christmas decor. 172 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,000 So sometimes, Baby Jesus, 173 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,000 oh, Baby Jesus is the main one, 174 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:27,000 but sometimes even Mary and Joseph will also have GPS trackers on them too. 175 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,000 Hello. 176 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,000 What a twist on a holiday classic. 177 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,000 Here I am, some great test creature who literally ate a human in front of you. 178 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:38,000 And I can't even fathom the kind of evil that comes from a Jesus thief. 179 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,000 Ha, well, I guess there's no rest for the wicked. 180 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,000 I only have so many hours on this holiday, 181 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,000 so the show must go on. 182 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,000 I don't know how you feel about history, 183 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,000 but I've got a great historical true crime podcast 184 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,000 hosted by Sisters Lindsey and Madison. 185 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,000 Together, they formed the podcast “Ye Olde Crime". 186 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:59,000 The show is full of strange historical facts, crime, and laughs. 187 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,000 It's a great bit in nostalgia for a centuries old being like myself, 188 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,000 but it should serve as a fun learning experience for you. 189 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,000 Hello and welcome to "Ye Olde Crime", 190 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:15,000 where we discuss the funny, strange, and obscure crimes of Yesteryear. 191 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,000 I'm your host, Lindsey Valente, 192 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:21,000 and with me is my sister and co-host, Maddie Stangle. 193 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,000 Hello. 194 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,000 Hi. 195 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,000 How's it going? 196 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,000 It's going. 197 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:32,000 This episode comes out the week of Christmas. 198 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,000 Oh, I'm a good miss. 199 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,000 Good miss. 200 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,000 Good news. 201 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,000 Happy holidays. 202 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:43,000 I'm going to be sharing stories behind popular Christmas tales. 203 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,000 Ooh, that's appropriate. 204 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,000 That's timeline appropriate. 205 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,000 This story is a popular tale that I think once I get into it, 206 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,000 you're going to be like, "Yeah, I know this one." 207 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,000 Okay. 208 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,000 If you live in the UK, 209 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:03,000 you're probably familiar with a popular Christmas dish known as "Minsmeet Pie". 210 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,000 This festive dish is made with fruit, 211 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,000 spices like cinnamon and nutmeg, and a mix of herbs. 212 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:15,000 But it's rumored that once upon a time, back in the 16th century, 213 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,000 this dish had a... 214 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,000 Shall we say more meaty and rather unceivery beginning? 215 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,000 Is it long pig? 216 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,000 Yeah. 217 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,000 God damn it. 218 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:32,000 Historians in 2016, particularly a blogger named CRBerry, 219 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:38,000 wrote about how the dish was actually invented by a group of French cannibals. 220 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,000 It's always the French, 221 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,000 "Histone bread, no, Minsmeet Pie". 222 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:46,000 And they're the ones that punish pigs for eating their baby's faces when they don't eat them. 223 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,000 Just feed the pigs, and then you can eat them. 224 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,000 That's how... 225 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,000 That's how it should work. 226 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,000 It's a food chain. 227 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,000 You gotta... 228 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,000 Never break the chain. 229 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:03,000 Or the big ol' leaf face. 230 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,000 They're cool, though. 231 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:10,000 They decided to make pies filled with a mix of fruit, spices, and minced meat 232 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:16,000 to hide the fact that the source of the protein was actually people. 233 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,000 Okay. 234 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:21,000 And the reason Minsmeet Pies today are now meat-free 235 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:26,000 is to hide the fact that they started off as such a horrific dish. 236 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,000 Great. 237 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:36,000 In Paris in 1384, the butcher of Rue de Marmolsay was one of the most well-known of his trade 238 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,000 in the entirety of France. 239 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:43,000 Of his wares, his pattes, and meat pies were what sold the most. 240 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:48,000 People from all over the country would travel to Paris just to try them. 241 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:53,000 Even King Charles VI reportedly came to sample his wares. 242 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,000 BFD. 243 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,000 Like... 244 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,000 Super exclusive. 245 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,000 It's the Guy Fieri of France. 246 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,000 Yeah. 247 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,000 Yeah, I guess. 248 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:08,000 So, it's trying to think of a dives diner's and drive-ins joke, but I couldn't think of one. 249 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:18,000 Well, next to the butcher shop was the town Barber, who had a large number of patrons, and was particularly popular amongst foreign students 250 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,000 who were in the city to study philosophy. 251 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,000 No. 252 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:41,000 It said that when he would find himself alone with one of these foreigners, his hand would occasionally slip, and he would slip the throat of the unsuspecting student before they were sent down a shoot into the basement, a basement that he shared with his neighbor, the butcher. 253 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,000 So this is no swinging tug. 254 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,000 Yes. 255 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,000 Yes. 256 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,000 Okay, got it. 257 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:56,000 The butcher would then proceed to chop, grind, and mash the body until they were at a consistency where they could be the key ingredient for one of his famous meat pies. 258 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:10,000 The reason they would slaughter and serve foreigners was because it was far less likely that their families would miss them right away, or even notice that they were gone until long after they'd been served to the unsuspecting people of Paris. 259 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,000 For us. 260 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:24,000 This practice between the two men took place for years, and it wasn't until a young German student went missing that the life of crime that he had been living at began to crumble in 1387. 261 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:34,000 The police had no idea where to even begin to look for the missing student until they noticed something peculiar about this student's dog. 262 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,000 Okay. 263 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:44,000 The dog would stay outside the barber shop day and night, barking and seemingly waiting for his master to exit the building. 264 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:49,000 It wasn't long before the police decided it was worth looking into. 265 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,000 That's when the basement of horrors was discovered. 266 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:58,000 The butcher and barber were arrested, taken outside the city hall of Paris and soon hanged. 267 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:04,000 As for the student's dog, he was awarded the Medal of Honor for solving the case. 268 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,000 Stop! It's so cute! 269 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,000 [Laughter] 270 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,000 I hope we got a good home. 271 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,000 Hope somebody like... 272 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,000 I do too. 273 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:17,000 And as you mentioned, if you're thinking to yourself, that sounds familiar? 274 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:25,000 I'm not surprised as it inspired the tale of Sweeney Todd, who first appeared in a penny dreadful in 1847. 275 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:32,000 The location of Sweeney Todd changed from the then small city of Paris to the bustling city of London, 276 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:41,000 where barber Sweeney Todd partnered with his neighbor Mrs. Love It, whose pies were the worst in London before Sweeney showed up. 277 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:49,000 The story of the original butcher in barber in Paris may not be the true inspiration for the story of Sweeney Todd, however. 278 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:55,000 There are other reports of a similar tale taking place in the 17th century during the French Revolution, 279 00:16:55,000 --> 00:17:00,000 but there is no proof of any questionable murders taking place. 280 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:06,000 It is more likely that the British were trying to paint the French as barbaric cannibalistic commoners. 281 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,000 They have been known to do stuff like that. 282 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,000 Yeah. Yeah. 283 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:19,000 Once upon a time in the UK, being able to afford a mincemeat pie meant you were doing rather well for yourself. 284 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:28,000 At that time, the pies were filled with savory meats like lamb or minced beef, which was a luxury that not everyone could indulge in. 285 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:38,000 One of the earliest mentions of a pie full of meat and spices appeared in an English cookbook from 1390 titled A Form of Curry, 286 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:47,000 which called for the maker to grind up pork, hard-boiled eggs and cheese before mixing in spices, saffron, and sugar. 287 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:55,000 At this point in history, meat pies would have been intended as a full meal, not as the small tart-like pastries that they are known. 288 00:17:55,000 --> 00:18:00,000 That makes sense. Yeah. So like a full chicken pat pat. Yeah. 289 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,000 A portable and party. 290 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:10,000 Around the mid-17th century is when mince pies seemed to start being tied to the holiday of Christmas, 291 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,000 although they were still enjoyed throughout the rest of the year. 292 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,000 And you're familiar with Oliver Cromwell, right? 293 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,000 Mm-hmm. 294 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,000 Yeah, that guy didn't like things that were festive. 295 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:29,000 [laughs] Shocker. And he had spiced treats of which mince meat pie was one made illegal. 296 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,000 Cool. 297 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:36,000 A 1661 book about the interregnum, aka when the Puritans ruled the country, 298 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,000 the author included a rhyme that goes as follows, 299 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:45,000 "All plums, the profit, sons, to fye, and spiced broths are too hot. 300 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:50,000 Trees ends in a December pie and death within the pot." 301 00:18:50,000 --> 00:19:01,000 In 1850, Washington Irving wrote, "Nearly two centuries had elapsed since the fiery persecution of poor mince pie throughout the land. 302 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:05,000 One plumb porridge was denounced as mere poppery." 303 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,000 The war on pie. 304 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:12,000 By the mid-1800s, mince meat pies, sands meat, started to make an appearance, 305 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:17,000 partially due to the fact that sugar was starting to become easier to acquire, 306 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,000 which ushered in the era of sweet pies. 307 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,000 Nice. 308 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:27,000 In 1861, a cookbook by Mrs. Beton provided directions on how to make meat pies, 309 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,000 as well as a sweet meat-free version. 310 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:36,000 By the time that the Victorian era came along, mince pies were almost exclusively meat-free. 311 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,000 Regarding the story of the French butcher and baker, 312 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:45,000 a folk song was written in 1387, the same year that the pair were said to be executed, 313 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:50,000 titled, "The Legend of the Barber and the Bloody Pastry Seller," 314 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,000 that goes as follows. 315 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,000 "I don't know the rhymes, I'm just going to read it." 316 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,000 Quote. 317 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:00,000 And rue de du Hamal, near the Marmo say, 318 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,000 "Were two occurs souls by their dreadful crimes, 319 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:09,000 the bloodthirsty barber and reckless baker, discovered by a dog, making the world eat, 320 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:13,000 by fruitful cruelty, the flesh of a Christian." 321 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,000 End. 322 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,000 And to end on a fun note. 323 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,000 Okay. 324 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,000 Yeah. 325 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:26,000 The law banning mince meat pies during the reign of Cromwell was never actually repealed. 326 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:32,000 So it's a bit of a well-known fact that anyone who eats them in the UK 327 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:38,000 is actually breaking the law, but it's not something you're going to get arrested for. 328 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:43,000 On that note, as always, I'm Lindsay, and I'm Madison, 329 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,000 and we'll see you next time with another tale, 330 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:53,000 as though this crime, happy holidays, happy holidays! 331 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,000 I may have just ate, but that story made me hungry. 332 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,000 You know what I'm saying? 333 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,000 Up top. 334 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,000 Oh, like it. 335 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,000 That's probably not super relatable for a mortal. 336 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,000 You may never eat again after what you've seen tonight, huh? 337 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,000 Phew. 338 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,000 I was afraid that awkward sounds was never going down. 339 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:15,000 Good thing there's plenty of indie podcast content to keep you calm and keep me distracted from the hunger. 340 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,000 And there's no better listening distraction than the delicious duo of Alicia and Sierra, 341 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,000 of Twisted and Uncorked. 342 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:25,000 These ladies always deliver the best of serial killers, cults, conspiracies, or the paranormal. 343 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,000 It looks like this is all about the history of Ebenezer's Scrooge. 344 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,000 I'm going to go ahead and press play. 345 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:34,000 I need to distract myself from those human meat pies. 346 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,000 A Christmas Carol became particularly popular as well, 347 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,000 because of the time it was released in. 348 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,000 People found it to be relatable. 349 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:48,000 Ghost stories were passed around a fire during this time of year, like we just said earlier, 350 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,000 and this book contained just that. 351 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:55,000 And it sold out by Christmas Eve. 352 00:21:55,000 --> 00:22:05,000 Dickens was able to reestablish Christmas as a season of goodwill to all men in the hearts and minds of the people. 353 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:10,000 A Christmas Carol inspired people to behave better towards one another. 354 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:15,000 It is theorized that Ebenezer Scrooge was based off of a real man. 355 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:22,000 The most likely candidate is an 18th century British politician named John L. Wess, 356 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,000 who was notorious for his penny penching. 357 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,000 Penny penching. 358 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,000 I said, "Penny penching?" 359 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,000 I put the ironies. 360 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,000 Anyway, you know it. 361 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:41,000 John L. Wess was born in 1714 and inherited his first fortune 362 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,000 worth about $10 million today. 363 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,000 Cassie's pay is not fair. 364 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,000 It's a time. 365 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,000 At just four years old. 366 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,000 $10 million. 367 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,000 When his father passed away. 368 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,000 Sir. 369 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,000 Wow. 370 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,000 But if... 371 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,000 If... 372 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,000 I mean... 373 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,000 Yes, four-year-olds, are you? 374 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:11,000 But if, as they say, a penny saved as a penny earned, John L. Wess was more like a billionaire. 375 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:16,000 At a young age, John learned much of his frugal mindset from his uncle, 376 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:22,000 though his mother, who reportedly starved to death because she refused to buy food 377 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,000 despite being rich. 378 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,000 Probably played a role as well. 379 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,000 Oh, I'm sorry, but... 380 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,000 That is just crazy to me. 381 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,000 The stakes for Galady to a whole new level. 382 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:39,000 John L. Wess and his uncle would sit around complaining about the way other people wasted money 383 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,000 while sharing a single glass of wine between them. 384 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,000 I was sitting here with a half-leather. 385 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,000 That's not enough wine. 386 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:53,000 John would always go to bed as soon as the sun set, so he wouldn't have to pay for candles. 387 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,000 Oh, what? 388 00:23:55,000 --> 00:24:01,000 Roadkill and would eat moldy food rather than letting it go to waste. 389 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,000 I mean, I kind of respect that because people are so wasteful, but no. 390 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,000 No. 391 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,000 Don't let go of waste. 392 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,000 This is trash. 393 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:16,000 Yeah, on the side of the house that you should use to plant your own garden. 394 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,000 Use it for something other than putting inside of you. 395 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:25,000 Oh, I can smell it from here, I'm upset. 396 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:33,000 He wore ragged clothes, including a wig he found in a bush, and strangers often assumed 397 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,000 he was a homeless beggar and would drop pennies in his hand. 398 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,000 Oh, boy, she wears a bush wig. 399 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,000 The bush wig. 400 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,000 The name of the episode. 401 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,000 Jesus Christ. 402 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:54,000 John would walk in the rain rather than paying for a coach, and then he would sit around 403 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,000 in his wet clothes rather than building a fire to drive them. 404 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:05,000 His roof leaped, and his lavish home fell to ruins around him, up until he died in 1789. 405 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,000 He was known to get in, right? 406 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:14,000 He was known to get mad at birds who stole hay from his fields to build their nests. 407 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:19,000 It honestly was a conversation to save as much as possible. 408 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,000 You can't take it with you, man. 409 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,000 Exactly. 410 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,000 Like for what? 411 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,000 For what? 412 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,000 Also, the birds are just doing their thing, okay? 413 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,000 They're being just as frugal as you. 414 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,000 You found a bush in a wig. 415 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,000 Why can't they find a hay in your field? 416 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,000 Did you see a bush got a bush in a wig? 417 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:47,000 Yeah, she got a hay in your field. 418 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,000 I love it. 419 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,000 A wig in a bush. 420 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,000 A wig in a bush. 421 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,000 You're a wig in a bush. 422 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,000 Oh, my goodness. 423 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,000 Passed wigs. 424 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,000 Exactly. 425 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,000 John ran for Parliament and served three terms. 426 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,000 Who the fuck voted for him? 427 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:11,000 He was technically a member of the wig party. 428 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,000 No pun intended. 429 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:21,000 According to Wikipedia, the wigs wore a political faction and then a political party in the 430 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:28,000 Parliaments of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom. 431 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:34,000 John would travel to Parliament via the long route to avoid toll roads and he would ride his 432 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,000 underfed horse to work. 433 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:42,000 Sopping along the way to eat a hard boiled egg, he kept in his pocket. 434 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,000 It's a little bit squished. 435 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:51,000 It was very hard to know. 436 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,000 Okay. 437 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,000 Oh, hopefully it was for people. 438 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,000 Everybody smelled. 439 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,000 So I don't think they noticed the whole world. 440 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,000 It's a bush wig. 441 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,000 They also ate it in the road. 442 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,000 You know, it's fine. 443 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:09,000 I really hope that he shared part of that hard boiled egg with this horse though. 444 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,000 I doubt it. 445 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,000 Oh, he's just standing there. 446 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,000 He can have it's own food. 447 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,000 Did you ever eat the horse? 448 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,000 Yeah. 449 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,000 The habsis. 450 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:25,000 After a total of 12 years in Parliament, he decided to retire. 451 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:30,000 Rather than continuing to spend money in his elections. 452 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:36,000 The Scrooge comparisons start to fall apart though once you get past extreme personal 453 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,000 fragality. 454 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:41,000 When it came to other people in his life, John L. 455 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,000 Wiz could be extremely generous with his money. 456 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,000 Interesting. 457 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:53,000 When his friends experience financial strengths, he would assist them with whatever they needed. 458 00:27:53,000 --> 00:28:01,000 Oh, furthermore, while he would lend money freely, he was too polite to ever ask his friends to pay him back. 459 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,000 No, that sounds real dumb. 460 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,000 Yeah, you gotta have boundaries. 461 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,000 You gotta have boundaries. 462 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,000 It does sound like Jesse. 463 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,000 Minus the bush wig though. 464 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,000 Minus a barber. 465 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,000 Well, then never mind. 466 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,000 I want nothing to do with that one. 467 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,000 Mark, are you up here? 468 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,000 Oh shit, this must be the X-Crooge from Character from the Big City. 469 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,000 Hold on. 470 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:35,000 Ugh, sorry about that. 471 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,000 Honestly, after the whole 8 in the pockets, there I wasn't really hungry. 472 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:43,000 But we still have a couple of stories left to go, and I hate when people interrupt my podcast. 473 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,000 You may have noticed some other voices in that last story. 474 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:50,000 It turns out that story was a Christmas mashup between Twisted and Uncorked and another great show. 475 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,000 The PNW Haunts and Homicides. 476 00:28:52,000 --> 00:29:00,000 They show a poster by Caitlyn and Cassie, and they specialize in all things true crime and paranormal, mostly happening around the Pacific Northwest. 477 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,000 Actually, I have a few cryptic cousins that roam those forests. 478 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,000 And the hits keep coming. 479 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:14,000 This story from the NW Hansen Homicides is also from the same mashup, so you could hear a little more of the Twistediron Court ladies in this clip too. 480 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,000 Consider that my little gift to you. 481 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,000 It looks like we're going to learn about a murderous dentist in this one. 482 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,000 He had quickly become a pillar of that small town community. 483 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,000 Always. 484 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,000 Pillar to killer. 485 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:33,000 He was more than just a respected businessman in Roseburg, though. 486 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:40,000 He held memberships at the Elk's Lodge, and with the Roseburg Monthly Music Club. 487 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,000 Oh. 488 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,000 It sounds very wholesome, but I feel like you're going to... 489 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,000 You're going to shatter it. 490 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,000 Pretty much. 491 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:58,000 He was married to an attractive and beautiful woman, and the couple had three young boys. 492 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,000 On the 13th of July that same year, 493 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,000 Dental. 494 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,000 Yeah, that's his name. 495 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,000 Toads. 496 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,000 Might as well be. 497 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,000 Yeah. 498 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,000 It's going to say is that actually his name, though, because... 499 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,000 That's why he chose that profession. 500 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,000 Yeah. 501 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:31,000 Dennis Russell was hired under the pretense of Dr. Brumfield needing assistance with removing some tree stumps from his property. 502 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,000 Or the tree stumps or were their bodies? 503 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,000 Good question. 504 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,000 Okay. 505 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:49,000 Dennis was a well-liked and unmarried man, though he was not known for his wit or intellect in particular. 506 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,000 So obviously it wasn't going... 507 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:59,000 It wasn't going to be difficult for the doctor to disguise his true intentions. 508 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:07,000 And in this case, the truth is certainly stranger than any fantastical fictional tale I could have imagined. 509 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,000 Oh, say that sometimes. 510 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,000 I love this as a prelude, though. 511 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,000 Yeah, absolutely. 512 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:28,000 You see the image that Dr. Brumfield had projected to the community of a wholesome, prosperous, and all-American family was indeed at least in part of fabrication. 513 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:33,000 For you see, the good doctor did find himself in a bad habit. 514 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:38,000 In a bad bit of money trouble. 515 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,000 Oh. 516 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,000 I was like, "Oh no, a bad habit." 517 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,000 Oh, a bad habit. 518 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,000 We got a bad habit. 519 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,000 Well, killing people usually is a bad habit, but... 520 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,000 And he has. 521 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,000 Arguably one of the worst. 522 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:58,000 His plans for Dennis lied in using his corpse to fake his own death. 523 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,000 Yeah. 524 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,000 Exactly. 525 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,000 Dennis! 526 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,000 Oh, I was really hoping he was just going to be in a conversation. 527 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,000 Yeah. 528 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:10,000 That would have been probably Dennis's preference, but... 529 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,000 Poor Dennis. 530 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,000 No. 531 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,000 Or IP Dennis slushed dentist. 532 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:24,000 He had a $30,000 life insurance policy and had also taken out two separate loans from Roseburg Banks. 533 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:35,000 Insurance schemes, as one might surmise, he may have already learned, were a far more lucrative way to make a quick buck than any other occupation. 534 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:42,000 He'd actually already previously received payments for homes that had been burned to the ground. 535 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:48,000 So this is our wholesome dentist who's just, you know, lighten shit on fire. 536 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,000 A huge con man, why not? 537 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,000 Yeah. 538 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,000 Pretty wild. 539 00:32:53,000 --> 00:33:03,000 The handyman Dennis had been offered a bottle of moonshine when the doctor arrived to pick up him up at his home. 540 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:18,000 In hindsight, it probably would have been a good idea to hold off on the day drinking until after he'd finished his work, you know, blowing up tree stumps, clean out of the ground with dynamite. 541 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:26,000 But of course, Dennis didn't have the benefit of knowledge that the moonshine had also been laced with some sort of sedative. 542 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,000 So questionable choice. 543 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,000 Oh, sure. 544 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,000 Oh my gosh. 545 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,000 So he just starts drinking before work. 546 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,000 Yeah. 547 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:41,000 But you got to feel bad for the guy once you find out what's next. 548 00:33:41,000 --> 00:34:05,000 When Dennis had succumbed to the power of the tainted spirits, Dr. Brumfield took him about a mile down the road in his personal vehicle and not for a picnic to bludgeon him with 30 Remington semi auto rifle that he had also packed up for this errand. 549 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,000 Oh my gosh. 550 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,000 Oh, I'm bludgeoning with a rifle. 551 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,000 You realize that's a gun, right? 552 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:18,000 I mean, I'm not going to tell you how to murder somebody, but I feel you did it the heart. 553 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,000 Yeah. 554 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,000 Just like, come on. 555 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,000 Yikes. 556 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,000 There's such an obvious cheat code here. 557 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,000 A hundred percent. 558 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,000 Oh my god. 559 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,000 Well, I mean guns and rosemary. 560 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,000 Rosemary. 561 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,000 Rosemary. 562 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,000 No. 563 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,000 Poor Dennis. 564 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,000 I know. 565 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,000 I was really starting to like it. 566 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,000 I know. 567 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,000 I was really starting to become attached. 568 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:51,000 Making a second stop further along the road, Dr. Brumfield shot Dennis twice with that same rifle. 569 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,000 Even in a rural community gunfire could draw attention. 570 00:34:54,000 --> 00:35:05,000 So he quickly sped away from this second location, which Roseberg is still pretty small here in Oregon, like compared to a city like Portland. 571 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,000 So I was kind of surprised. 572 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:11,000 I was like, why are you so worried about getting caught? 573 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:17,000 Like, isn't everybody just out shooting guns like, piffy. 574 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,000 Yep. 575 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,000 Old time, Westerny. 576 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,000 Yeah, that's what they sound like. 577 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:29,000 So in my experience, which is zero. 578 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:35,000 So he just drove away. 579 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:41,000 Well, he did just drive away, but unfortunately he did take Dennis with him. 580 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,000 Yeah. 581 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,000 What? 582 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,000 Yeah. 583 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,000 So he shoots him and then he takes him away. 584 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,000 He beat him. 585 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,000 And then he was like, oh wait, this is a gun. 586 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,000 And then he shoots him. 587 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,000 And then he's like, oh no, I'm going to get caught. 588 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,000 Come on, let's go. 589 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,000 Why? 590 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,000 I don't serve. 591 00:35:55,000 --> 00:36:00,000 Yeah, I think probably at this point, he wasn't really asking Dennis nicely. 592 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:05,000 He was probably just shoving him back into the trunk. 593 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,000 But who knows? 594 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,000 Poor Dennis. 595 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,000 I'd be like, fuck you. 596 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,000 No. 597 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:16,000 I mean, assuming that Dennis was even conscious, I feel like Yikes. 598 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,000 Okay. 599 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,000 Can I just say, I have an S. 600 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,000 What is it called? 601 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,000 A prediction? 602 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,000 Oh, of what is going to happen next? 603 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,000 Oh, I like it. 604 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,000 And I don't think it's actually going to happen, but it would be hilarious. 605 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,000 Don't spoil there. 606 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:38,000 Because is there a trail of blood that follows his vehicle all the way back to where he is? 607 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,000 Is this going to get even more loo-loo need you? 608 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,000 Right. 609 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,000 It feels like a cartoon. 610 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,000 Oh, it's, it honestly gets more cartoony. 611 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,000 Oh gosh. 612 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:57,000 That specific explanation would be just, shuff's kiss, but no. 613 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:09,000 It wasn't until he reached the river that the doctor made a third stop to remove each and every tooth from Dennis' mouth. 614 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,000 No. 615 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,000 No. 616 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,000 Oh, that's Sarah's worst nightmare. 617 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,000 So he's a dentist because he's literally a psycho. 618 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,000 Yeah. 619 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,000 Oh my god. 620 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,000 I never trusted that in a joint circle. 621 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,000 It's my best guess anyway. 622 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:30,000 So the weird part though, Sarah has a thing about you. 623 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,000 I get it. 624 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,000 I get it. 625 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,000 It's horrifying. 626 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:39,000 I can't stop like goose bumps. 627 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,000 That seems like a lot of work. 628 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,000 Yeah. 629 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,000 Yeah. 630 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,000 How many teeth the adults have? 631 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,000 Like 25? 632 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,000 He may have had up to 32. 633 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,000 Oh. 634 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,000 It's 32 with your wisdom teeth, 28 without. 635 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,000 Okay. 636 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,000 I'm one of the weird. 637 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,000 I never stopped to count my teeth, but I'm glad you knew that. 638 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,000 I'm the chopper head because that wasn't even close. 639 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,000 I'll tell you why after we're done. 640 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,000 I'm going to message you guys how many teeth I actually have. 641 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,000 And you can just take a quick count and get back to us. 642 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,000 That'd be great. 643 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,000 Doing some research. 644 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,000 Yeah. 645 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,000 Yeah, absolutely. 646 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,000 Oh no. 647 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,000 Well, it gets weirder though. 648 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:26,000 And that's just on this third stop before we move on to more weirdness. 649 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,000 Of course. 650 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,000 There's levels and layers. 651 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:34,000 It's like an onion of weird criminal activity. 652 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:40,000 He then threw those teeth into the current of the river. 653 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,000 Why? 654 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,000 What was the point? 655 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,000 It's making my eyes... 656 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,000 It's making my eyes... 657 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,000 Oh, I have to get rid of DNA. 658 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,000 Well, I mean, there's nobody's testing DNA back then. 659 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,000 So I was kind of thinking this way. 660 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,000 It's 1921. 661 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,000 That's... 662 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,000 I forgot what timeline was. 663 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,000 Exactly. 664 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,000 Couldn't they still identify people by dental records back then? 665 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:06,000 I don't think that you could really identify someone by dental records back then because... 666 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:12,000 At least in part, I think that they use your X-rays when they do that. 667 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,000 That's right. 668 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:19,000 But I think the most that they knew was if they have a gold tooth, they must have money. 669 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,000 Right. 670 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,000 Right. 671 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,000 We're dental records. 672 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,000 Just like somebody looking at a dead guy's mouth. 673 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,000 Like, yeah, that looks like those. 674 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:31,000 She makes them bite something and then the dead person bites. 675 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,000 Yeah, the bite is the same. 676 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,000 Well, obviously, Ken would not do that here. 677 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,000 He has no azerotis. 678 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,000 Goodness. 679 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,000 Oh, goodness. 680 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,000 No. 681 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:51,000 So, Highway 99, which normally I would say this may sound familiar to local listeners. 682 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:56,000 I don't know if you have any listeners in the BMW, probably. 683 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,000 I hope so, Laura. 684 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,000 I'm not representing very well. 685 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:12,000 But on Highway 99 is where he pulled over yet again to place his "signit" ring on the man's finger. 686 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,000 Now, that's what I call a cliffhanger. 687 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,000 Putting his ring back on his victim. 688 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,000 Is this a calling cart thing? 689 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,000 Or is he trying to disguise the victim that passes him? 690 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:24,000 I'll have to send you with the full episode on that one so you can see how it ends. 691 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,000 It looks like our final story is done downloading. 692 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,000 I know you've heard a lot about messed up stuff this evening. 693 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,000 But how about hearing from a podcast called That's So F*** Up? 694 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,000 Wow, that was unusually a lot of traffic. 695 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,000 The final show that I downloaded is called That's So F*** Up. 696 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,000 And it's hosted by Ashley Love Richards. 697 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,000 She covers all things bizarre and all around. 698 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,000 Well, F*** Up. 699 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,000 Hopefully you can stand up one more holiday story. 700 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,000 That's that, F***. 701 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,000 So, you guys, this is Ashley Love Richards. 702 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,000 You know me, I'm your host. 703 00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:04,000 And today, I'm joined by one of my audio engineers and friends for over a year and a half. 704 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,000 We have been on this ride together for a hot second. 705 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,000 It's been a great ride too. 706 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,000 Who are you? 707 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,000 My name is Gatres Monique Perdue. 708 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,000 I loved it that rhymed. 709 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,000 Thank you. 710 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,000 I know. 711 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,000 So I googled Christmas cult just in case. 712 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:26,000 And wouldn't you know that I found something super f***ing weird? 713 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:31,000 So I found this thing, Gatres, called the Gracious Choir. 714 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,000 Gracious Choir? 715 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,000 Yeah. 716 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:45,000 But the leader of the Gracious Choir and the good news mission and the International Youth Fellowship, aka the IYF, 717 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:50,000 well, he's originally from Korea and only speaks Korean. 718 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,000 He has an interpreter with him at all times. 719 00:41:52,000 --> 00:42:02,000 But I swear to God, he just made all of these different names to throw people off because it was so hard to figure out what the f*** was going on here. 720 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:10,000 So, shout out to our researcher, Elizabeth, for really digging in and finding out what was going on here. 721 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:15,000 Because I just said, I don't know really, you know, and then she looked into it. 722 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:20,000 I looked into it more, but she just found a lot of really great information because I was like, what the f*** is going on here? 723 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,000 Sorry, dang it. 724 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,000 And his name is Gracious Choir. 725 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,000 His name is Aksu Park. 726 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:31,000 And he was born in June of 1944, which makes him 79 today. 727 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:36,000 He founded a choir called the Gracious Choir. 728 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,000 Okay. 729 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:42,000 Which is just like a little bit confusing because of the Korean origins. 730 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,000 Yeah, and it's the thank you choir if they were somewhere Spanish. 731 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,000 A Spanish-speaking country. 732 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,000 Exactly. 733 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,000 I can see why you're throwing off. 734 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,000 Yeah. 735 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,000 Gracious to your researcher. 736 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,000 Right. 737 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,000 I mean, thank you. 738 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,000 Gracious means I love you. 739 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,000 No. 740 00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,000 I mean, thank you. 741 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,000 I think most people know that. 742 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,000 Yes. 743 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:07,000 Aksu Park was born in June of 1944. 744 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:20,000 He was a student at the San Son Middle School, which is where he was connected with the WEC International in England, which was the worldwide evangelization for Christ. 745 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,000 Good stuff. 746 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,000 Uh-huh. 747 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:28,000 So I actually just watched a really good documentary on HBO. 748 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,000 Okay. 749 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:39,000 It was called Savior Complex, and it's about a woman who starts a missionary in Uganda when she's I think about 21 years old and starts a 750 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,000 refeeding program from our nourished children. 751 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,000 And basically, I don't want to give too much away. 752 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,000 The mortality rate at her facility. 753 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:58,000 It was in the same ballpark as at real hospitals because sadly about one tenth or more of children who get malnourished and updying. 754 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:10,000 As a the end result sadly, and she had this facility running, but she would wear a stethoscope and sometimes a doctor's coat. 755 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,000 She had no medical training whatsoever. 756 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,000 Never took a fucking EMT course. 757 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:19,000 She was running this center for, I don't know, half a dozen years or more. 758 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:27,000 And she had doctors and nurses around who were trained medical professionals, but they interviewed a girl who had 759 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:35,000 volunteered there and other people that they interviewed to said that she would just step in and be like, "No, no, this is how you do it." 760 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:42,000 Telling the doctors and nurses to do something this way when she doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about. 761 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,000 That sounds about right. 762 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,000 She's got some kind of complex on. 763 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,000 You can say that sounds about white. 764 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,000 I know what you want to say. 765 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,000 [Laughter] 766 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,000 Oh, you knew it. 767 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,000 Well, let's be honest. 768 00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:03,000 You know, it's white missionaries for the most part going over to Africa a lot of times. 769 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,000 Yes. 770 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,000 Because God put it on their heart and don't get me wrong. 771 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:14,000 Some of it is good because, you know what, if you want to do good, give them money. 772 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,000 Help money flow into their economy. 773 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:22,000 Not so much just hand over the money to the government because unfortunately many governments are very corrupt. 774 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:33,000 But if she had all this money flowing in from donors, she should have been giving that to the hospitals in the surrounding areas that have real doctors and medical facilities. 775 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,000 Exactly. 776 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:39,000 But she definitely seemed to have, well, a savior complex, which is the name of the documentary. 777 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,000 And everybody's like, "Why are you going off about this right now?" 778 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:51,000 Because she was a missionary and the worldwide evangelization for Christ was an inter-denominational mission agent. 779 00:45:51,000 --> 00:46:01,000 That was a mission agency that focused on evangelism, discipleship, and church planting to share the gospel cross culturally. 780 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,000 That's what I don't like. 781 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,000 Keep your gospel to yourself. 782 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:14,000 You want to go help people in third world countries by donating some time or money, food, food, you know, whatever. 783 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,000 But don't go force religion on them. 784 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:25,000 Especially while they're like suffering and it seems like the only way they're going to get that help is if they convert to what you want them to convert. 785 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,000 Right. 786 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,000 Listen to me talk all day long about this and then maybe I'll feed you. 787 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,000 No, exactly. 788 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:34,000 You get the help but with a side of Christ. 789 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,000 Also a side of a non-medical advice. 790 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,000 Yeah. 791 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,000 Probably. 792 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:44,000 I didn't go to school and let me come and operate on you. 793 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,000 And there's one woman whose child died. 794 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:53,000 She came from a small village and she said I had heard about a white woman who had a facility. 795 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,000 And when I got there and met her, she had a stethoscope on. 796 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,000 She looked like she knew what she was doing. 797 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:10,000 So she was going into areas where people weren't very educated and presenting herself as a medical professional and had a bunch of children die at her hands. 798 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:16,000 And that's the thing I want to be fair about is that statistically that many could have died in a hospital as well. 799 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,000 It's just like the whole savior complex bullshit. 800 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,000 And I'm bringing that up because what is evangelism? 801 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,000 You ask a truce. 802 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,000 What is evangelism? 803 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,000 Thank you. 804 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:39,000 Yeah, I will tell you it's the act of preaching or communicating the gospel and teaching of Jesus to non-believers with the goal of converting as many people as possible and helping them discover their trooper. 805 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,000 Trooper is in life loving Jesus. 806 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,000 There's not like strict rules about it. 807 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:49,000 You just preach about the Bible and obviously this can be abused pretty quickly. 808 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:57,000 And I found these adorable evangelical twins who run a for-profit mission business. 809 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,000 Who are these twins? 810 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,000 The Benham brothers. 811 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,000 And it's a profit. 812 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:05,000 It's a for-profit mission business and they call it mission hearing. 813 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:09,000 Isn't that the exact opposite of what that she's supposed to be? 814 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:16,000 I mean, not mocking them, but I've seen the missions in neighborhoods walking with their tie, the white shirt. 815 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,000 They've never stopped to talk to me though. 816 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,000 I think that's Mormons you're talking about. 817 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,000 Oh, that's definitely their look. 818 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,000 But yeah, what they are doing is evangelizing. 819 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,000 Well, are they preaching about Jesus in the Bible? 820 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,000 Maybe they're just spreading the word. 821 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,000 They're spreading the word. 822 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,000 I feel like that's similar. 823 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,000 I feel that one can open up their heart to Jesus if they like. 824 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,000 I've been a church a couple of times. 825 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,000 Yeah, no, I've been a couple of times. 826 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,000 Yeah. 827 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,000 Sorry. 828 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:57,000 So he officially joined the missionary program in 1962 and was trained in theology and the practical life of faith based on the gospel. 829 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:09,000 Aksu does mostly public speaking and sermons to preach his gospel and he has also written 38 books related to Christianity. 830 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,000 Okay. 831 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:14,000 Where does one get the time to write 38 books? 832 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,000 I can't imagine they're that good. 833 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,000 He spired up about the Lord. 834 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:25,000 But also Stephen King writes pretty amazing books and he's written a double crooked S-tun. 835 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,000 That's just for you, girl. 836 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,000 Thank you. 837 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,000 Cricut letters. 838 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:36,000 And now he's dedicated to spreading his gospel across the world for everyone to hear. 839 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:44,000 It's an important note that his ministry is seen as a cult in South Korea where he's originally from. 840 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,000 Also, kind of Colt-y. 841 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,000 He thinks he's a prophet. 842 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:52,000 So, you know, whatever rolls off his tongue is the truth. 843 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:56,000 You know, it's always kind of interesting when somebody's a prophet. 844 00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:00,000 It's weird how they think the world should be a certain way. 845 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,000 And that's weirdly exactly how Jesus thinks that the world should be a certain way. 846 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:10,000 The way that they think, you know, yeah, I could tell you, Gatress, I can't be wrong. 847 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:15,000 Everything I say now is right because Jesus came and qualified me to do this. 848 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,000 Oh, I want to do an episode called Dangerous Bible Verses. 849 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:24,000 Like ones that people often use to justify some bullshit. 850 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:29,000 And the one that Renee Bach from Savior Complex used was, 851 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,000 God doesn't call the qualified. 852 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,000 He qualifies the called. 853 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,000 And is that in the Bible? 854 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,000 I don't know, Gatress. 855 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,000 If it is though, that's not good. 856 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,000 I don't think it is. 857 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:45,000 I have not read through the whole thing, but I don't think God was using phrases like that. 858 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,000 First would be "Dai Dao". 859 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:52,000 I think I'm on chapter three or four of the Bible or book. 860 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,000 I'm on chapter four. 861 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,000 I was about to say, like I think it's by the books. 862 00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:01,000 I've been learning about the Bible now for, I don't know, eight months. 863 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,000 Yeah. 864 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,000 And I'm still. 865 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:09,000 But I do know what you mean by that because when people get married or they're like honor that husband, 866 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:14,000 you know, my husband, he's cool, whatever, but honor and listen to everything he says. 867 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,000 No. 868 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,000 Wait a minute, he might listen to this episode. 869 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,000 Love you. 870 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,000 Whatever. 871 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,000 He knows who he married. 872 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,000 He does know. 873 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,000 But yeah, or no, maybe it's Obey your husband. 874 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,000 I'm sorry. 875 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,000 I'm a human woman. 876 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,000 Yeah. 877 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,000 No, I don't like that. 878 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,000 You know what? 879 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,000 Tell me. 880 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,000 I don't like to obey anyone. 881 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,000 Yeah. 882 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,000 Exactly. 883 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:42,000 Because it's like, oh, if you tell me to do something, I'm going to do the opposite. 884 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,000 Exactly. 885 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,000 And then I just say, what do you want to say? 886 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,000 Exactly. 887 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,000 Thank you. 888 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,000 I got you. 889 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:53,000 We're symbiotic at this point from working together for so long. 890 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,000 By, um, see it eye to eye. 891 00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:08,000 So the worldwide evangelization for Christ, WEC, is what I'm going to call it now because I'm not going to keep saying that, was founded in 1913 by Charles Stodd. 892 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:15,000 And American evangelist. 893 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:19,000 He created the heart of Africa mission in his 50s. 894 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:28,000 He stated that if Jesus died for him, then he should be able to make endless sacrifices in his own life to return the favor. 895 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:32,000 And this was all relating back to personal health problem he had. 896 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,000 You know, this is my cross to bear. 897 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,000 Jesus had to die for his sins. 898 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:44,000 And I have asthma, you know, no, I don't know if it was asthma, but also I don't want to diminish how scary asthma is. 899 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:52,000 I can't imagine having something where it's just like, yeah, and then sometimes all the sudden I can't do that thing that you need to do to keep living to breathe. 900 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,000 Yeah. 901 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,000 Mm hmm. 902 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,000 Shit. 903 00:52:55,000 --> 00:53:11,000 So heart of Africa was then renamed WEC International. And once this change happened, their goal was to have a worldwide effect to reach every person on the planet who did not yet have Jesus in their heart. 904 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:17,000 Or at least who hadn't heard about him, you know, I guess you at least got to hear about this guy. 905 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,000 And then hopefully you bring into his heart. 906 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,000 Have you heard about my friend Jesus? 907 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,000 He's the bomb. 908 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,000 I would love to hear more about him. 909 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,000 Tell me more. 910 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,000 I'm not going to tell you more about Jesus. 911 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,000 Okay. 912 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,000 But I am going to tell you more about this weird Christmas choir. 913 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,000 Hold. 914 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:45,000 This organization is where Park got his extreme ideology and is trying to enforce the same objectives with the foundations that he's created. 915 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:54,000 Their objectives are reaching as many people as possible, planting as many churches as possible, and mobilizing missions around the world. 916 00:53:54,000 --> 00:54:05,000 Because we've seen how well missions have gone in, you know, it's generally really cool how they go to indigenous groups and push colonization on them. 917 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,000 Pretty chill. 918 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,000 And make them change. 919 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,000 Yeah, against their will. 920 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,000 Mm hmm. 921 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:15,000 Our principles are faith. 922 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:23,000 You have to trust that God will supply all you need sacrifice because they believe that the Holy Spirit enables them to obey what Jesus says. 923 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:27,000 And that will be able to endure any struggle that they're faced with. 924 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:32,000 Fuck this shit just like so is breeding ground for abuse. 925 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,000 Sacrifice. 926 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,000 Yeah, you can endure that. 927 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,000 And it's because it's a part of God's plan. 928 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:46,000 And the holiness, the Holy Spirit lives inside of them and allows them to honor God in all that they ask, say, think and do fellowship as well. 929 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:53,000 Their belief in Jesus makes it so that they can work together as a team regardless of any other differences. 930 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:58,000 So it's like, hey, put that massage knee or whatever aside because we're here for Jesus. 931 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,000 And we're going to enjoy working together in theory. 932 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:10,000 So the good news mission was founded in 1972 and they run several churches in South Korea and also send missionaries abroad. 933 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:16,000 There are now over 350 good news mission churches around the world. 934 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:40,000 They're independent baptists which are generally fundamentalist baptists. And if you guys know anything about the IFB or the independent fundamentalist baptists in the United States, they are fucked like as fucked as the IBLP bill gothard Institute for basic life principles, all that stuff. 935 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,000 I'm not familiar with the fundamental. 936 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:47,000 Don't say that because you will know if you still listen to any of the show. 937 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:53,000 You should listen to the fundamentalist segment though. It's like really interesting or you should watch shiny happy people. 938 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:57,000 I did watch shiny happy people. Okay. That's the IBLP bill gothard. 939 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,000 Oh snap. Okay. 940 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:14,000 So the I have been independent fundamentalist baptists are very similar to the IBLP. So if these are independent baptists, a K fundamentalist baptists coming to do missionary work at your place of living. 941 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:20,000 That's fucking terrifying. That's not even like a super benevolent kind of Christianity. 942 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:27,000 I'm sure there are missions that are a lot nicer but I would assume that this is a pretty fucking intense one. 943 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:36,000 It was started from the faith of forgiveness of sins that pastor oxu park received by the grace of God lucky him. 944 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:44,000 Facing poverty, coldness and hunger, he received the great dream and the promise of preaching gospel all around the world. 945 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:48,000 And Gatress guess what he uses to spread his message. 946 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,000 Tell me the Christmas cantata choir. 947 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,000 Oh, okay. 948 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:59,000 And that's what makes this a Christmas cold. I wouldn't have guessed it. I should have guessed it though, but that was a good one. 949 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:04,000 No, I mean, how would you have guessed it? It's pretty fucking out there. Let's be real. 950 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:12,000 So the gracias or gracias if you're in other Spanish speaking countries choir was founded in 2000. 951 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:18,000 Park now uses this group to travel with and spread his message while on international tours. 952 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:22,000 And these happen yearly between October and November. 953 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:27,000 And these tours were two months long. Yeah, a couple months. He's in high demand. 954 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:33,000 There are several stories from those who have attended, which I'll talk a little bit more about later. 955 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:43,000 And most don't have great things to say about their experience. They're a traveling international choir of all ages, nationalities and backgrounds. 956 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:55,000 They perform classics to contemporary to fucking whatever bullshit. They'll sing traditional songs in people's respective countries. 957 00:57:55,000 --> 00:58:02,000 So they all do police Navidad. What did that like for sure be in the fucking rotation though? 958 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:07,000 Yeah, I mean, I like the song, but I would think if you're going to be traveling to Mexico. 959 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:21,000 Police Navidad. Police Navidad. Police Navidad. 960 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,000 ProSpero on your EF-A-L-C-Dod. 961 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:28,000 I want to wish you a happy festival. 962 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:42,000 From the bottom of my heart. Boom. Okay, that was really fun. Christina, that was beautiful. 963 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:54,000 I was going to say you said that they were in high demand. I wonder if they're selling out in this go field for $900 like other people were. 964 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,000 Nevermind. I don't want to go there. 965 00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:05,000 I'm going to be careful. I know. I'm not. You best watch what you say. I respect her. She's smart. You better not go a step further. 966 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:11,000 You're going down a dangerous road right now. Okay, let me tell you don't have no sweep these after me. Shoot. 967 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:21,000 Okay, so when I hear this, this scares me because I was in a choir that I quit because the director was so mean and it was actually a class for credit. 968 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:34,000 And me and a handful of other people went to someone else in the department and said, you please have to let us out of this class or let us do something alternative because he's abusive. 969 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:46,000 Because when you are pursuing excellence in the artistry of emotional purification, education and international fellowship through classical music. 970 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:57,000 Things are going to be out fucking intense. That's all I'm saying and you need perfection. No, you do. And that's why I was like, I got to get out of here. Yeah, because you wanted it to be perfect. 971 00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:05,000 But often the pursuit of perfection can get pretty intense, especially when it's coming from my charismatic leader. 972 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:21,000 So it was incorporated in 2013. And since then in 2015, the Garossi is choir won the highest prize at the Mark to Birdorf International choral competition in Germany. 973 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,000 Oh, so they're really good in Germany. 974 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:38,000 Yeah, and that comes at a price to the performers I'm guessing. So they have grown into a world where they're now in choir winning multiple first prize awards across the globe. 975 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:49,000 Can I tell you something always? Thank you. It may be think of sister act like this guy is coming and building this choir except for sister act was fun. 976 01:00:49,000 --> 01:01:03,000 I haven't seen sister act in so long. Yeah, they were choir put together and then they end up winning the competitions. And you're saying that the Garcia choir leader the grossiest choir. 977 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:09,000 The grossiest choir leader. He built something good. What you call the Garcia. Garcia. 978 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:18,000 Oops, I did it again. Somebody's got grateful dad on their mind. That was not good. Oopsie. Anyways, the Rossi's choir leader. 979 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:25,000 We let them to perfection. Yeah, which he probably feels pretty good about. And those people on the choir probably don't well. 980 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:32,000 I don't know who doesn't like winning awards cage restless fereal. This is true. But at what price exactly. 981 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:44,000 So they provide classes and education for music related programs around the world. And they engage in charity concerts and promote non governmental, 982 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:58,000 cultural exchange. You guys know that I'm the first one to say be wary of the government. But also be wary of people who were like, hey, fuck the government come over here. We have the answers like, you know, balance. 983 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:19,000 Fire beware. And then there's the international youth fellowship established in 2001 and like some bullshit mind control thing raising leaders with global insight through youth education activities and realistic solutions to problems in the global village. 984 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:38,000 And it just sounds like a were raising leaders. It sounds very sketch Coltie as hell. Yeah. So a lot of these experiences are from Reddit. So I can't totally verify them. But let's pretend that I could because I did reach out to somebody who did not get back to me. 985 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:48,000 Wait a minute. These are experiences of people that were in the choir. No, people who attended. Oh, okay. So we're getting their reviews. Yeah. 986 01:02:48,000 --> 01:03:04,000 So what woman said that her and her boyfriend attended the Christmas cantada and that they had received free tickets from their land lady. The show was at the beginning of October, which is weirdly early for a Christmas show. 987 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:17,000 And apparently the show started with a clip about the choir itself and how successful it was. And then it turned into a life lesson about how awful the recent shootings have been specifically the one in Las Vegas. 988 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:27,000 It then circled back around and said that their show had perfect timing because they were there to bring people hope again after such tragic events. 989 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:41,000 Following the video, a man came out on the stage and welcomed everyone and says why they're all there, which is obviously Jesus Christ. But you know, it's somewhat typical for a Christmas message. 990 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:52,000 Then they do the actual concert and it was broken up into three acts. The birth of Jesus several Christmas stories and a musical performance. 991 01:03:52,000 --> 01:04:03,000 Overall, the couple thought the performance itself was great, but that the writing of the story was awful. Like it was trying really hard to promote a message. 992 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:12,000 So they were performing beautiful music, but it was also like, what is this fucking message that you guys are trying to spread with that? 993 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:22,000 They were essentially at a church service with a flashy set and some extra music after the second act. They then brought oxoo park out to speak. 994 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:33,000 His sermon lasted for 30 minutes where he just kind of got really ranty and said that we need to follow Jesus or the bad things will happen. 995 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:44,000 The couple thought this was really weird at this point, so they leave and all of the staff gives them confused looks as like why are you leaving early and that was the end of their experience. 996 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:59,000 The event they attended was entirely staffed by i.f. and good mission members. They said that the entire event was promoted very lightly that the real agenda came out when everybody was seated. 997 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:14,000 Like so it's like hey come to our Christmas concert. Listen to us sing fun Christmas music. Okay, so these people got their tickets for free. Yeah, and it's very interesting that people were confused as to why they would leave the show early. 998 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:21,000 They wanted to see some people singing. Yeah, they didn't want to sit there and listen to this man rant and I'm done. 999 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,000 Exactly. Right. 1000 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:32,000 And he's weirdly speaking Korean and having somebody in terms of. Oh snap. I can't believe I forgot about that part exactly. 1001 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:42,000 It just brings a little bit of even more interesting aspect to it. This is another story from Reddit and it's from is raw man. 1002 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:49,000 They asked for a shout out when we asked for permission to use the story. So what's up. Thank you for letting us use your story. 1003 01:05:49,000 --> 01:06:00,000 Oh, shout out. This person was a part of the IYF good mission call for six years. So it's some reviews and some in house experiences first. 1004 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:07,000 He had a count. Yeah, they helped manage and organize the events and even became a spokesperson because she spoke Spanish. 1005 01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:19,000 She says that she saw some sketchy stuff going on under the surface. Park made the group do commitment offerings on top of normal tithing done in Christian culture. 1006 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:28,000 And this was used to fund events. So I think tithing traditionally it's like you give 10% of your income to the church or something. Yes. 1007 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:43,000 But whatever then you had to do also commitment offerings on top of that and they were made to perform free labor. You know handing out promotional material working on construction on new properties. 1008 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:53,000 They brought making the food for the gatherings. It was definitely a goal. This sounds very familiar. Right. Yes. We've heard these hallmarks before. 1009 01:06:53,000 --> 01:07:01,000 The congregation was made to feel like they couldn't leave because if they did they would lose everything and go to hell. 1010 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:11,000 The person who has since left said that people who wanted to escape would run away in the middle of the night. This is a Christmas choir. 1011 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:21,000 Yeah, and you can't leave freely during the day. No, it's the Christmas choir is just what they use to spread their gospel. 1012 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:29,000 And if wives and children left usually the men would stay and pray that they would return and they believed it was a trial from God. 1013 01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:35,000 And if their families didn't return, they would then be placed in a new marriage so they wouldn't be alone. 1014 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:42,000 So organized marriages as well. And this happened to several people from all different levels of the organization. 1015 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:54,000 Also some good old fashioned mental abuse. Their goal was to try and break you so you don't leave. They would throw insults at people and be as nasty as possible to keep everyone in line. 1016 01:07:54,000 --> 01:08:03,000 They were taught to hate and abuse others out of love. You know, tough love. Even if that wasn't what was needed, it's still what should be applied. 1017 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:17,000 This reminds me so much of the troubled teen industry right now. It's crazy. And people are afraid to leave because park claims that he's a prophet and that God was using him on earth. 1018 01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:23,000 And obviously people don't want to go to hell, you know. And you're right. This is the choir. Did they live in a compound? 1019 01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:30,000 Dude, this just like really hard to find information on. Okay. I don't know. We should have been playing Colt Bingo though, but we would have won. 1020 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:46,000 Totally. I found this in an Amazon book review. A guy said that he was super into the good mission group. So he spoke to parks nephew who is also a pastor at a church in LA. 1021 01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:58,000 And found that it was wrong if you ask for forgiveness. Your faith isn't strong enough or you lack faith if you're asking for forgiveness because you should just trust God or Jesus or somebody. 1022 01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:07,000 And Jesus doesn't save you if you ask for forgiveness because you're not just blindly trusting enough. He confirmed they do arranged marriages. 1023 01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:27,000 A panel of pastors gets together and prays. Then they couple their members together based on those prayers. And he also confirmed that it's rare for couples to get divorced, which I mean depending on the circumstances could definitely point that they're kind of forced together or potentially women are coerced and to staying in abusive marriages and stuff like that. 1024 01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:51,000 He asked the pastor if any other churches taught what they do and he said that there was one, but he couldn't remember the name of it. He also asked why the church itself was so isolated because that made it seem controlling hardly anybody really knows about the church or what they represent the foundations, the I.Y.F. Good Mission and Grosius choir all have a positive front. 1025 01:09:51,000 --> 01:10:05,000 You know hats off to Elizabeth because this stuff was it wasn't easy to find and his answer was that they tried to preach to other churches but are told to go away because a missionary isn't well it's not a church. 1026 01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:15,000 It's a person or a group preaching so they're trying to bring their system into other churches and they're like fuck off that church already have their message. 1027 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:34,000 Yeah we're good thanks think of the Lord in 2011 there was a pretty big scandal where 400 English teachers volunteered to teach English in Mexico and you know some of them naturally were young college students and they claimed that the classes were going to be called English camp. 1028 01:10:34,000 --> 01:11:02,000 Instead they were religious lectures mostly talking about sin and these classes were guarded by security and anyone who tried to leave was prevented from doing so participants who were late were forced to do physical labor or have some sort of physical punishment so they would generally have to perform excessive exercises instead of learning and one of the college students who went to teach said that she was the victim of a scam. 1029 01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:28,000 There were also questions going up in India and Uganda over their religious materials being used in public schools and everything that is being used in public schools is provided by the good news mission there everywhere and just you know to round things off park has had several fraud charges against him not surprised. 1030 01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:57,000 In 2017 it was said that he sold fraudulent over the counter stock to his 800 church members and that he also took in an unlawful profit for a church so you know the pastor can make X amount of money but he's like mine it's mine your commitment offerings are actually mine it's amazing how I mean I really don't know how much money preachers make but just looking at TV the guy in town. 1031 01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:26,000 I don't know how much money he makes but they've got that mega mega church and I'm sure he lives in a mansion yeah they want you to sacrifice members you sacrifice you go without this is a test blah blah blah yeah but look at me hey you come over here free labor that's a tails all this time yeah fix my hot tub go add another wing got to my house right right in 2017 his estimated fraud amount was 20 1032 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:31,000 21.8 million dollars. 1033 01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:45,000 God dog weirdly every case that has come against him has been dropped the Supreme Court stated that it is hard to regard park as an accomplice because you know cases keep getting dropped that 1034 01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:56,000 can it be coercion what other suspects in his broadcast were given jail time of two to three years along with several years of probation that's also so often how it goes with 1035 01:12:56,000 --> 01:13:06,000 whole leaders because they have other people to the dirty work but overall park was found not guilty he's a profit so gay trust that is the 1036 01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:13,000 rossiest choir Christmas contact occult good grief. 1037 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:25,000 Early changes my opinion on a lot of holiday concerts I fight best it's wild how you humans hide evil within your most secret of establishments kind of mix hard to trust anything you see in this world. 1038 01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:33,000 Well it looks like my time for this holiday is coming to an end there's only an hour left in the day and I see a pack of top go build drive through with my name on it. 1039 01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:39,000 I see now point eating you to especially after all the great podcast I shared with you so let's not let these shows go waste. 1040 01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:47,000 Why don't you pull out your phone and subscribe to the mob before you leave now if you'll excuse me I've got a little holiday feast of my own to have. 1041 01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:51,000 Good luck explaining this to anyone. 1042 01:13:51,000 --> 01:14:09,000 [Music]