Ghosts & Murder on Seattle's Orient Express

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It is said that the current owner does not believe, does not want to acknowledge, does not want others to talk about the paranormal. Well, you can't tell me what to do. Apparently, something doesn't appreciate her telling people not to talk about ghosts. Hi Caitlyn, hi Cassie, hi creepy people. Hello, if you're new to our creepy corner of the world, this is PNW Haunts & Homicides, where we chat about true crime, paranormal and all things creepy in the Pacific Northwest. We do a tarot reading at the end of every episode for deeper insight into our topic. So make sure you stick around if you're into that. We think it's fun, we love it. It's pretty cool, it's amazing. 

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We give away many tarot readings, so you want to come and see us? come to our booth, you get to spin a wheel. It's really fun. Honestly, don't undersell the wheel. I almost forgot about the wheel because I was like, yeah, tarot reads, but the wheel's where it's at It really is. We get people just to come. They just want to spin the wheel. They don't even want anything. They're like can I just come and chat with you and spin your wheel? I think where we're going to end up in a few years is we're going to have giant wheels But then, like, the price is right, yeah, but we're going to be on them and people are going to spin us. What? Just kidding? I don't know about all that. It's like a knife throwing thing, you know? Oh, okay, well, anyways, for now it's mini tarot readings and you should definitely come visit us at these events and all of the other amazing vendors. These don't throw knives at anybody. That is very unsafe. Yeah, i feel like in the ghosts of summer they actually have very specific rules about that. Just in case. I feel like that's implied for everywhere though. 

Yeah, yeah, as you all know, i was in Seattle very recently because I bragged about it. I was going to say you were in Seattle, i was. I told everybody You really did. It was really fun, i think when 82 concert was amazing. I'm not going to talk about it, i'm just going to say it was really great, and they're still spunky, you guys, i bet. 

So I was inspired to find something Seattle-y to talk about today, and I didn't have time to look into anything before I visited, to go to the place I was talking about. Damn it, It was just a quick trip. I didn't want to cram a bunch of work activities into it, what, yeah? So I researched after the fact. So then we can go back. Yay, so not only was this place pretty dang cool, but there was a little fact about it that told me yep, you got to do it and you'll probably know when we get to it. Oh boy, that's not scary. Is it a hole? I can't say. 

The year was 1949 and in the area of Seattle known as SODO, where I assume, given the name, is South of downtown Seattle. That's what I've been given to understand. Same, i Googled it. Yeah, there, a man named Big Andy opened a diner called you guessed it Andy's Diner. Oh God, ten years later, his nephew, little Andy, took over the diner. This is so cute. It totally reminds me of the Good Winds and Pike Place, because they were like uncle and nephew. Oh yeah, that's true. Also, really lucky, the new owner's name was also Andy, so they didn't have to change the name. Yeah, it's almost like that was just a coink-a-dink, right? Big Andy, little Andy, oh boy, their menus are now part of history, archived in the Seattle Public Library. What? Yeah, they're really cute. They're, like, really old fashioned Because they were done in the old fashioned days. Old fashioned, the old timey days, old timey. 

Some of the good eats at Andy's were a variety of breakfast meats and eggs to satisfy your AM cravings. I imagine coffee was available as well. I mean, god, let's hope so, for fuck's sake. Let's hope For your lunch fix. Choose from an array of barbecued meat, sandwiches, charbroiled burgers and french-fried potatoes Purtators, purtators. And don't forget the secret sauce. Gotta have the secret sauce. I mean, i know that's like a thing, but also It's not like the gross secret sauce, it's like they actually made a really good secret sauce. Yeah, it was like I'm gonna wait and let this play out. It's not a waiting situation. Okay, yeah, freaking. 

Dane Cook, did you know that diners also serve dinner? Yes, i did. At Andy's, you could get any kind of steak. Your taste buds wish for All of them, all of the steaks. I literally wrote they have all of the steaks. They also have spare ribs, prime rib, prawns, fried chicken paired with a garnished baked potato and finish it off with an oven baked apple pie with cheese. Yes, please Wait, i don't know about the cheese. The cheese. You gotta have it with the cheese. I've never had it, but honestly I think it would be delicious. I don't know, it's one of these days. We'll try it. It was a thing It was like listed on the menu apple pie with cheese. Okay, wow, i feel like I just wrote a kick-ass ad. 

Can we call the 50s and get Andy's diner to sponsor us? Yeah, because, spoiler alert, they sadly closed in 2008, i know, and honestly I think it's because Andy's son, who took over his name, wasn't Andy. So I mean, honestly, i was right, it's cursed. Seriously, what kind of establishment are you running? You can have a non Andy. Run an Andy's. Yeah, i mean, come on. Yeah, oh, that's right. You don't run the establishment as diner. Typical as the food might have been, the venue sure wasn't. Did you think I'd bring you here just to talk about a normal ass diner? I mean, it really depends on how hungry you were. Yeah, i mean, listen, we can always discuss, just you know, creative differences and changes that we want to maybe make to the podcast, but that, i mean, that's pretty like off the wall. This is like one of those sleepy time podcast now where I just read menus to you until you fall asleep. Those are amazing. 

So this is an extra special diner that was made up of seven antique train cars Adore, robola. Well, they're antique now. I don't know how antique they would have been in the 50s, but they were definitely decommissioned train cars. Yeah, they probably weren't super antiquey at that point. One of those train cars is known as the presidential car. It was purchased for a cool 18 grand, which I feel like actually isn't that much for like a whole ass train car. Yeah, but when was it purchased? because 18 grand, funny, you ask, is my next sentence, from what I can tell, was purchased in the 80s. Oh, that was a lot more money back then and I guess it would have been vintage back then. I'll go ahead and tell you about this train car, yay. 

So now are you wondering what presidente used the train car during his 1944 campaign? Oh, it was actually used by a president, it was okay. Any guesses? 44? I'm doing the ADHD thing where I'm like I fucking know this and I can build a think of the name. Would I, would it help if...? Is it FDR? Yes!Okay. Friend of the pod, freaking Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Yeah! Used this train car during his 1944 presidential reelection campaign. Nice, yes, very historical. What was the hint you were gonna give me? the reelection thing. I don't know if that would have helped. 

So you can see, once I found out that fact, it was like screaming at me, like, yeah, i have to talk about it because we have to mention FDR in every episode. Oh shit, um, i have some bad news for the next handful of my ends. No FDR connections, not that I'm aware of. They could pop out at random. We don't know. All right, well, we seemed we didn't play in any of the other ones. It's funny. He keeps popping up. Yeah, sup, sup, FDR. 

The car even has some original decor and a super presidential staff call button. Oh, i want one of those. Right, i know, can you have those installed in, like I don't know, say, a one bedroom apartment Maybe, but you have to have staff to call. So There's that, molly. I'm gonna add you to staff calling Molly. Well, if railway car walls could talk, am I right Spassé? There's also the very important bar car Where you could grab a martini or a Manhattan or some other fancy old-timey train drank like an old-fashioned, like an old-fashioned. Yeah, that sounds very fun. I want to go to like an old-timey bar car. Yeah, we need to bring these back. Let's do it, okay, before we leave. 

Andy's, I want to go back to those menus really quick. You know the historical ones? Yes, because there's something downright old-timey and hilarious in them. Oh, no, so, caitlin, open the link ice on chew, okay, and kindly scroll down the menu until you find what I'm gonna talk about. Let me know what you see. 

Oh dear, can you describe the scene for us, Caitlyn? Well, it appears to be a damsel in distress. Oh, no, tied to the tracks. She doesn't look to be in distress, even though there's a train coming. Yeah, she looks pretty easy going about it. Yeah, she does. That is a vibe. Oh, i'm just tied to the tracks. Someone will save me. They can't let a woman die out here. Yeah, bitch, they might. 

So let's go ahead and read, read. I want you to read what the caption says. So apparently this is a posted notice, because it says notice coercion involving young female persons which persons is capitalized um On our trackage Is strictly forbidden and will be vigorously prosecuted by law. No female persons on our trackage. Oh man, it's very bizarre. I mean, it's obviously like a funny. You know those little comic strips I'm thinking of. Oh, is what it is, is it? It's not like a public service announcement. No, okay, but I thought that was really funny, hylerious. Yeah, we'll post the link so you can check out the whole menu. There's a bunch of fun train stuff on it. I'm gonna go ahead and put my order in now. Yeah, get that apple pie with cheese please. 

Of course, even though I said the diner sadly closed, the new owners of the land thankfully kept the train cars. Adorbs. They now operate as a Thai and Chinese food restaurant and lounge called The Orient Express. Shut the fuck up. Nope, i will not shut the fuck up. Shut the front door. And your fucking face. I want to go so bad and I'm not even done yet Like you'll want to go too, okay. so I'm really glad that you didn't pick someplace, that you had a chance to go And like actually go in person while you were in Seattle, i know, because this is like way too cool not to bring you with me. I know It sounds like they did keep most of the old photos and historical artifacts that Andy's had up. 

They did also keep the presidential train car intact and you can actually still eat in there, but you do need a reservation because it's so popular, ooh. But you can also just politely ask if you'd like to see it, unless they tell you no when you ask and then don't say, like I said you could, because FDR is a friend of the pod, oh, yeah, it's like, don't pull that. Yeah, don't be weird. Don't be weird about it. It's Dick Road, don't be a dick. Exactly, they did add some things like laser lights in their karaoke car. I was literally gonna say do they have neon signs now? because you know that's so in right now. I think they do, probably so hot right now. We can look at the pictures of the outside, but they definitely have a lit up karaoke car, yeah, yeah, they also apparently have 70s disco nights, which sound amazing. Oh my god, i know I want to go. Why are we still sitting here? I don't know, my butt hurts. We should get up and go In. 

One Andy's regular even said in a 2009 Seattle Times article of The Orient Expresses new, taller private booths. Oh, he said. Quote it has a badger whole quality. You can, you can. I'm sorry, sir, what was that? I need to be sure to quote you accurately because I work for a newspaper. Well, what come again. And I quote it has a badger whole quality. You can come in and snuggle down. Okay, and I want you guys to keep this in mind for later. There's an interesting little comment on one of these articles along these lines Okay, i mean, the other thing about badger holes, from my understanding, is that's also where badgers who will claw your fucking face off Where they hang out. He did say badger like Quality, so I don't think there's any actual badgers. Okay, i mean, you know, just to be clear, in the hole. Oh man, oh my god, i'm dead. Okay, indulge me one more time. 

We're gonna talk about some food again. Yeah, it's a new restaurant, new menu, right? Yes, according to a Seattle Times article. Apparently The house crispy scallops is where it's at. Oh, but that was also in 2009. So I don't know for sure. Going through the menu, i'd probably go for the pad Thai, because you know I love my pad Thai. Oh god, i'm so basic, i know, and I can't have spicy anymore And I freaking love Thai food like I love drunken noodles. I've never been able to eat spicy food so spicy though Hurts my belly, but I'll go for some pad Thai. Hey, caitlin, yeah, you want to head over to that bar car with me? Yeah, this is where it gets fun. 

Yeah, they don't have any of these drinkies listed on the online menu, but Sarah from the strangercom says they have What is called an orient my Thai, with layers of hot pink and transparent green. Or a sex on the al-kai beach, which is apparently a beach in Seattle. Yeah, i did not know. Have you ever had a sex on the beach? The drink, i know. I'm trying to think if I've ever had one. I think so. I feel like I've had one, like you know, when you're 21,. You're like just starting to drink. You're like, when do I order Sex on the beach? I think it's like peachy. Yes, yeah, but I hope it doesn't. you know, taste like sex on a beach would taste, cause that, just that doesn't sound very pleasant. Sand, just very salty all around. Oh no, Ha, ha, ha ha. 

Ah, Sarah actually got to eat in the famous FDR car And she said she felt a little uneasy and a bit on edge in there. She said a quote an object on the table brushed my menu and I jumped, convinced it had moved by itself. So it didn't actually move by itself, but she was just very. She was that uncomfortable in the car. Oh, spooky vibes, i guess. Are you getting uncomfortable? No, i'm great, watch this move. Just kidding, i can put my feet back down on the floor anytime I want to. Okay, i just don't want to. My next sentence says oh hey, did you forget? this was a spooky episode. Here we go the return of FDR's ghost. Pretty sure we talked about his ghost one time, i can't remember why. Yeah, that sounds like us. Yeah, totally, but you know he's coming back, he's everywhere. 

As you can imagine, the layout of this restaurant is kind of wonky. It's a bunch of trains put together. Yeah, i mean, that's fair. Seems like you could easily get turned around in there, because it's not meant to be like a functional building really. Yeah, that's fair. So that could be a bit creepy when you're trying to find your way around. So maybe you know, don't go to the bathroom alone, take a friend with you. Yeah, i always do. There's kind of small passageways you have to walk through And especially if you've had one of those fancy bar card drinks You might feel you know, is this train moving? What's happening? No, i wonder too if it's kind of like you know, when you're in something and like people are shifting around, but it's not like a stable building. I wonder if it moves around like that. Yeah, i mean I would think so, just like when you're like in a motor home or something Exactly. Ooh, i might get motions. That's kind of what I was thinking. 

It is said that the current owner current at the time of these reports anyway okay, does not believe, does not want to acknowledge, does not want others to talk about the paranormal. Well, you can't tell me what to do. Well, apparently something doesn't appreciate her telling people not to talk about ghosts, because twice she was getting on staff about, you know, talking about paranormal things and telling them not to talk about it and lights exploded above her head, honestly, two times Serves her right. I mean, yeah, i sure as shit wouldn't want to see what happened on the third time. So, and I know this is a bummer for everyone, especially Caitlin, but that's it with the ghost stories on the Orient Express, just one. That's literally all of the ghost stories. One, yeah, there's not really any, there's kind of just the one, and then the creepy vibe, one, yeah. So I think we need to go there and kind of you know, investigate, get our own ghost stories. 

So like to me that almost makes it seem like the owner is trying to create Like you know what I mean, maybe Like she was trying to make fetch happen. She was like oh no, don't talk about it, don't talk. Oh, she tell them not to. They're going to Ooh, that's kind of smart. And she's like. She's probably like. She like looks around and she's like oh yeah, here's that food reviewer, oh yeah, here's that reporter. And then she goes up to her staff as they're like taking their notes at their table and she's like now, don't talk about any of these hauntings or paranormal stuff, None of that. While these guys are here, cube, the light break, yeah, and both as the, you know, the food reviewer and the reporter. Oh, their ears perk up and going What? Well, if she wants to give us more ghost stories, we will spread the word. 

So, even though that's it for the ghost stories, i'm not finished quite yet. We have some more stuff to talk about. But like what? Right, what could it possibly be? This is so fun. Now I'm really scared. I don't like this. Well, it's kind of, yeah, it's kind of not great, but okay, let's keep going. Oh, okay, you know me, i like to take everyone on a gosh dang roller coaster ride. I'm like it's up and down and up and down, and up and down. Hey, yeah, that's another place where I would get sick. So sorry, deal with it. You made me your co-host, so I'm sure I know what everyone thinks of when they hear Orient Express Murder. 

Oh, literature, oh, mm-hmm, Agatha Christie's 1934 murder mystery fiction, Murder on The Orient Express. And if you guys thought I just knew that, i didn't, i Googled it. I did not think you knew that. I have read it. I just I wouldn't know off the top of my head who wrote it and what the year was. That's fair. I do quite enjoy it. 

I also enjoy the adaptation for the silver screen in 2017. I'm feeling very fancy today with my wording. I don't know what it is. It must be like the old timey train crowd getting to, so like you have been taken over by FDR. What's happening? 

Anyways, the movie, it has a very fresh cast. Have you seen it? Well, that's why I kind of paused, because I was trying to remember if I have seen it, and I think I have. Yeah, it's pretty darn good. Well, i'll go through this this, you know. Fresh and new cast list here Penelope Cruz, oh, Penelope. Willem Defoe, ah. Dame Judy Dench, ah, Johnny Depp. Michelle pfucking Pfeiffer And yes, i spelled fucking with a P F because, like you have to, i mean duh. Also, bear claw from New Girl, isn't it? Oh, love, Josh Gad. For anyone who doesn't know. So there's a reason I bring this up. 

There was a murder on Seattle's Orient Express as well. Shut the fuck up. Oh, my God, see, that's what I assumed in the first place. And then you were like no, this is a bit. Yeah, it's a restaurant. It's just a restaurant. Caitlin, yeah, it's a little bit crazy. Exactly, and unlike the tightly wrapped up ending to the book or the movie, we don't get to find out the identity of the murderer or murderers on this Orient Express. 

In the early morning of October 5th 2017, an alleged fight broke out inside the restaurant. Why are you making that face? That's Chris's birthday. Oh, my God, we did it again. Yeah, why is everything somebody's birthday? I don't know. It's like literally someone I know and I don't even know that many people, right, you know creepy. Yeah, basically, i Hang out with a duo of you and like a handful of ladies that are coming over later. Well, murder just follows you around, apparently. I guess My next word says apparently. 

I'm like go, i'm gonna roll with it today, apparently, the fight was intense enough to justify a call to 911 at about 2 50 am. Jesus, which I feel like the bar should be closed by like two. Right, yeah, i think 2 am Is, hmm, most places in the country. Yeah, so I don't know, maybe it was one of their Fun party nights and, i don't know, could be. Yeah, i don't. I don't know what the ordinance is in Seattle, hmm, and if you're like a private, like club type environment, like maybe they can Stay open, like later, it also could have been staff. I, that's what I was gonna say half an hour to close and then 20 minutes to fuck shit up. That's true and we'll, we'll get there. But, oh boy, i don't know a lot. 

So, police arrive to a 27 year old man who had been stabbed in the chest. They didn't say with what, despite the medics attempts to save him. The unnamed man passed away on site. Oh, so it sounds like he passed away in the restaurant. Oh, that's what it sounded like. Oh, that's terrible. Yeah, i mean, he could have been outside too. They could have taken him outside, but I don't know if they would move him right if he's Got that bad of a wound and they're trying to save him. Probably not. Yeah, yeah, the person responsible for the fatal stabbing escaped the scene. Heading north Canine units were sent out to search, but the man was never found. And I say Man. 

I think they said it was a male, but now I'm actually not sure it could just it a person. I'm not really sure. I could go back to the article, but oh, it's probably hard for them to know. For, yeah, i think they might have just said the Suspect is what I think they said. I'm not sure if they used any other identifying information. But so I apologize for saying man. If it's not a man, i just assume you know man and do violent things. Yeah, i mean, come on like, do better, maybe we'll Also right. You know it was a man who passed away and it was a fight, so I mean it's right, it could potentially be a woman. I don't know for sure, but in a physical altercation I feel like I'm not going out on a limb here to say that, yeah, i feel safe. But okay, thank you, i wasn't like way off and thinking that it, you know, probably was a man. Yeah, But that's it. 

There is a whole two articles that I was able to find and It was incredibly frustrating how little there was. There wasn't even a name to the person who passed away. Oh, that's so sad. Yeah, so I don't know if you know how to kind of sleuth out the internet. I mean I googled every combination of murder, stabbing, this and that, and only two things came up. Wow, yeah. Yeah, i mean without digging into Really. I mean what you'd have to do is dig into death records, but Typically you kind of have to have a name, right. That's what I was thinking. 

It does become a little bit of a kind of sort of the snake eating its own tail To try to find information in a case like that. It made me really sad because then I started thinking, well, does this person like not have a family that cares? Because, like no one's? it seems like you know this person just got away with fucking murder. Well, i mean, it's also possible too that, you know, maybe, for whatever reason, they didn't necessarily want a ton of information about who this person was being shared with the public, and that makes sense too. Yeah, it just was really sad to me. I wish I know, yeah, but So should we end on, like, maybe, a little bit of a happier note? Yeah, okay, let's, let's bring it back up. I mean, well, we're not done yet. Oh, jk, we'll end on a happier note with the tarot too, but I have more for you Before we finish up. 

I wanted to read some comments I found interesting on the stranger.com article that Sarah wrote from earlier the girl with the drinkies the drinkies, which is called the crazy things that happen inside the Orient Express. So there was some comments on this article, and one was from Jen from 2014. Is that I had my wedding after-party here, because I, too, loved the place. An actual clown car full of Actual clowns who were dropped off at the bar was there. Our photos are nuts and there was no photos, but like, oh my god, i would love to see that. Oh My god, freakin cloud, a train full of clowns. Okay, anyone in the surrounding area? Please, for the love of God, help us get the word out to Jen, jen, and please send us your photo, jen, we beg you. 

The next is from Shmucky the cat, 2014. All right, they say, if you need crazy, there's lots of hidden nooks and crannies to have sex in during late-night parties. Oh boy, so this is where I'm thinking those tall boots where you can, you know, badger hole and snuggle happen too, oh dear. So you know, i wouldn't suggest having sex in public, but I just that comment was interesting. And there you go. Yeah, you could get arrested for that. Yeah, do you? but yeah, i was gonna say the reason why you say that is like. You know, yeah, i'm not gonna like encourage people to go and do that. There's sex clubs for that. So go, go, check out one of those. There's a lot of. There's one to you. Yeah, all the Right things to be done in the right places, away from children, yeah, which I'm sure they say late-night parties. So I'm sure there was no kids there, but still, still, not everyone wants to see your bits, right? Yeah, i mean, it's about consent. So, yeah, mrs Chili pepper says, also in 2014. 

I worked as a hostess at Andy's diner in the early 90s How freaking cute. There were some real characters working there too, including a flow from Mel's diner. Esk waitress named flossy Loved the way she wrote that. Or, yeah, i miss chili pepper and a cocktail waitress named Elaine, whose idea of getting dressed up was crotchless panties and dark brown lip liner. Oh, girl, girl, get it. Elaine, that is dressed up. 

So this is from anonymous dickhole. I gave him that name. Okay, also in 2014. Just, i believed when this article was published. Okay, i was gonna say weird choice for a Screen name. 

Yeah, so anonymous dickhole, as I have named them, say Hipsters, stay the fuck out of Soto. Take your blue collar hating asses back to Belltown and Capitol Hill. We aren't your fetish. Have a nice fucking day or not, i don't fucking care. Like what is that even directed at? I Have no idea, and I guess like Soto was kind of trying to be like so ho, you know, and where is that? New York, wait, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's kind of like trying to take on like an artsy Hipster vibe, i guess. And I guess this guy wasn't very happy about it. So does he not like the train bar? I, he might be one of those people who was upset that It an Americana diner, was replaced with a Thai and Chinese food restaurant. Oh Great, we all know those type of people and we're not friends with those type of people here. No, so I think that's what kind that's the vibe it was giving off. Yeah, that makes sense. 

I just want to kind of, you know, read it and Acknowledge that you're a dick hole. Yeah, you know what. You have a nice fucking day and I do care. Oh, i don't care and also don't have a nice fucking day. You fucking fuck. We're different people. It's okay. 

We actually have our own train car diner in Hillsboro called Blue Moon Diner. I know, i've been thinking about it the entire time And I don't know if that's actually a train car. It's designed to look like one. Okay, i was gonna say It's possible it could have been one. I'm not. I'm not sure We could look into that. It's cute though. It's so cute. I love it there. I wanna go there. Yeah, i was there pretty recently, probably six or maybe a year ago. That was probably a year ago, but I made a story on the podcast about when I was there. Wait, i was just gonna say I thought about it like at some point, and I can't remember why, and that's probably why, yeah, super cute 50s vibes. 

You still have good food. It's diner food. I like it. I really like their breakfast burritos. They have really good milkshakes. 

Okay, i have one last thing to say before we head to the tarot read, which Caitlin has just been itching to get to this whole episode. No, i'm just excited to do a tarot reading. She keeps thinking I'm ending and then I'm like haha, there's one. I know, i'm just so confused, i'm very disoriented. It's fine. So both Andys have since passed away. 

Big Andy was a while ago, in 1980, and Little Andy in 2021. Oh, i know, and Little Andy did make it to visit and dine at the Orient Express. He loved the maze of train cars and all the people who visited when it was his. It sounds like he spent the majority of his life there, not only running the place, but being the center of it, greeting as many guests as he could and knowing all of his regulars by name. Oh, i know He was proud and happy upon his visit to see that the magic of the old train cars was still alive. That's adorable, i know. Isn't that so flipping cute? You know what that makes me think of What? 

The Beaverton substation? What's that? It's a train themed like sandwich slash sub. Oh, i've never heard of it. Oh, yeah, we'll have to go. Let's go to all the train themed things. 

Are you ready for the tarot? Yes, we're finally ready for the tarot. Oh, yeah, i'm so fucking ready. We're doing the tarot read for the Orient Express. We're going to get a card that says FDR on it. 

Did you put all your powers into the deck? I did Okay, all of them. Okay, I'll do one more and then I'll pull. Okay, just so I can stress Caitlyn out Okay, we're doing something very important after this, and she's stressed, that's true. Okay, card pulling, orient Express. Here we go. 

We got the Knight of Blades, which is swords. Oh, knight of Swords. This is so cute. On her shirt it says the devil made me do it. Oh, my gosh, i can't remember who this. I can't tell who this character is from Supernatural. It's my Supernatural deck. I probably should have said that sooner. I just think it's interesting. Okay, she has boss lady vibes too, and I put the little boss lady vibe sign up. You did, okay, so I think this is going to make sense. It popped into my head right away and I'm already seeing the keyword and some things that make sense. Read it bitch Knight of Swords. 

Our keywords are daring, chivalry, forthrightness, impatience, single-mindedness and insensitivity. Oh, knights often symbolize messages or travel. Some decks, including the writer Wait Smith Terrell, show this knight rushing hell, bend toward an adversary or an adventure Interesting, kind of like a train Or like two guys fighting in the park. Oh, my gosh, in the Aquarian Tarot, however, he shoulders his sword, contemplating his next move. If he represents a person, you know he may be someone who's overly aggressive or argumentative, who lives in attack mode. Oh, i mean, i don't love that, but it makes sense. It really lines up. 

Oh, yeah, we talked about a lot of murder. I know, weird for a spooky week. Yeah, murder mystery like fake fiction and a real murder mystery because it's unsolved. Yeah, oh, this says or he might be a spiritual warrior, one who uses his intellect to examine and purify himself. Fdr Totally Sorry you guys. All right, i'm going to read the interpretation. The upright knight may suggest you're passionate about your ideas and believe wholeheartedly in the rightness of your objective. If this card represents an actual person, he's probably a young man who expresses his ideas enthusiastically and may have trouble understanding other viewpoints. He has a quick mind and keen intellect, but may lack true wisdom. It kind of reminds me of the comment we've read too. Yeah, kind of all those people that weren't happy about the idea of being a true person. They weren't happy about the transition of Andy's diner. Yeah, yeah, it's actually kind of freaky. Yeah, sometimes this knight symbolizes an urgent message or an unexpected trip A train. 

A trip train Train trip A train trip, a trip on a train. I think we should do it. We could take the train to Seattle and then go to the train restaurant. Yeah, it's also interesting. We've had this extra excerpt before. I think it's really applicable here. 

Knights and athletes Our modern day athletic teams have their roots in the medieval period, when knights served the royalty and noble houses. The allegiance to particular teams, often connected to the schools we attended or the places where we live recalls our ancestors' fidelity to the tribes, fiefdoms or countries to which they belonged. Even the penance waved at sporting events harken back to days of old, when soldiers carried banners into battle to indicate the side for which they fought. Really interesting. This card may point to a trip for financial reasons. So that's our money interpretation. Love that, wow, i just love how it's like about trips and it's like trains. 

If the reading is about your job, this card can represent a business trip. Sometimes it means a job change or a shift in work related responsibilities. Oh, it did change restaurants, yeah, and I think some of the from what I've read, it sounded like some of the waitresses from Andy's applied to work at the Orient Express as well. Oh, really, yeah, okay, that makes sense. The knight may also caution you to hold your tongue and bide your time. Diplomacy is important now, yikes, hold your tongue Never. Oh, my gosh, that's crazy. I don't see anything relevant for love. 

It says the knight may point to a new affair or change in an existing relationship. A new affair in the little corners and nicks and crannies and badger holes. I mean possibly, possibly. Or what if they were fighting over a woman? Oh, they found them together in one of the sneaky hidey holes, maybe I don't know. Damn, i wish it was solved, though. I hate an unsolved case, i know, especially when you, like, literally don't know anything else about it other than it's unsolved. It's awful. Let's see if any. 

This is the supernatural book, so sometimes they're just like really specific on talking about supernatural characters. Yeah, i don't think. I see the knight of blades represents an impulsive figure who steps in and takes action when others falter. I mean for better or for worse, right? Yeah, maybe that's the person who stepped in and took over the land and was able to make it into a new restaurant. And maybe, yeah, marlboro Knight and shining armor coming to save the trains Could be. Uh, it says, if you find yourself stalling or putting something off, this tarot card advises you to act now Interesting. So I think we're stalling on going on the Seattle trip and we just need to. We just need to do it. Yeah, just let's go, all right. Well, that's our cue. 

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Tortuga Tortuga That's something from Pirates of the Caribbean. I don't know if it's a real place. Tortuga I don't know what tortola is. Oh, tortola is a British Virgin Island. Let's see about tortuga. Yeah, look up tortuga. Tortuga is a Caribbean island. Oh cool. 

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