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Hopefully people are listening and God, get your fucking birdie out of your makeup bag.
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Get mace.
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I always lock my doors when I get into my car right away.
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It's just like that's a habit that I've had from such a young age.
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Me too, it's really sad that we have to have been taught that by our mothers at such an early
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age.
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Yeah.
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I'm a car when you're walking up to it.
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Make sure no one's in your back seat.
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Lock the door quickly.
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Like, uh.
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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Hi, Caitlyn.
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Hi, Cassie.
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Hi, creepy people.
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Hello.
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Hello.
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If you're new to our creepy corner of the world, this is PNW Haunts and Homicides, where we chat about true crime,
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and all things creepy in the Pacific Northwest.
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Yeah.
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And we also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode so that you can get some insight into the topic.
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Yeah, just a little insight, a little insight, a little sight into your in nerds.
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Oh.
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Okay.
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Spooky season.
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So I'm going to let that one slide, I think.
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Yeah, I mean, this will be out after spooky season, but we're still in spooky season right now.
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And I'm very, uh, Ashnikko to out right now.
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Yeah.
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You're fully engaged with the spooky of the season.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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We're going to the concert tonight.
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It's going to be so much fucking fun.
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We're having the best October.
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Yeah, we really are.
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Seriously.
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Um, we may have slightly over scheduled ourselves this weekend.
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Yeah.
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It's fine.
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We never do that.
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Yeah.
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It doesn't happen.
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Anywho.
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Well, this is a creepy people Chronicles episode.
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A tease.
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Creepy people Chronicles are when we share your stories, your spookies, your ookies.
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Sometimes they're witchy or ghosty or true crimey.
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Yeah.
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That also.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And look at that.
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I, I have one.
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Oh, no.
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I'm like, okay, I'm really worried about the story that you're going to tell.
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Yeah.
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You got me scared.
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Yeah.
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Me too.
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Okay.
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Well, you go first.
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Oh, should I go for?
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Oh, joy.
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Okay.
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I am really just struggling today to gather my thoughts.
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And I think I was telling you earlier that.
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I'm processing an increased level of cortisol.
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Maybe that's what it is.
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And I think it's turned off my brain.
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Oh, no.
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So here we go.
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So you are just a hat rock today.
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I am just a hat rack today.
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Very much so.
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Very, very much so.
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All right.
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So just what you want for your Friday, your Friday, if you will.
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I was leaving work and I looked down at my phone and I was like, I have 10 text messages.
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And I have not been ignoring my phone all day, but it turned out it was primarily a group chat that just really kind of exploded.
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Okay.
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But I saw that I had messages from, let's see, my mom.
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It looked like it was messages from Chris, but he was part of the group chat.
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And then I had messages from you.
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And I think at least one other person.
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The details, some of them are a little fuzzy.
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So I'm leaving work.
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And as I'm getting into my car, I see that I have all of these messages.
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And the way that my new work building is located.
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There is a very busy corner right before a T-intersection.
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Okay.
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And there's railroad tracks right by us.
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I don't think I'm geolocating myself too much.
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Now I'm a little bit paranoid.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, it was quite a time.
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So there's a gas station that, depending on, you know, what side of the street or of the building that you're on.
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I think of it as being like kind of behind us.
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It's across like kind of a little rolling grassy hill.
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That's like backs up to our parking lot.
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Okay.
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And I feel like I'm going like into a painstaking detail.
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And I'm like getting really nervous.
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I want to picture it.
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Yeah.
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I know it's, I had to use objects to try to locate for Chris when I was like explaining to him when I got home last night.
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So I've always assumed that there was a little bit more of a distance between,
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like that little rolling grassy hill and you go down and then the gas station is down there.
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And the backside of their building is right there.
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I've already, this is my second experience with something unfortunate occurring on the backside of the gas station building.
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So.
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Oh, yeah.
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Okay.
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Which is exactly how I feel about it.
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Okay.
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And I am sitting there and I'm about to kind of start looking through my messages quick because I thought to myself like, Oh, man, I wonder if there's something important going on or, you know, I just don't know.
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So I wanted to check.
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And messages is quite a bit.
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It's a lot.
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It's a lot.
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And, you know, if nine of those messages had been from my mom or from Chris, I'm thinking like, okay, there could be like legitimately.
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legitimately an emergency or something. So just as a frame of reference, I'm kind of setting
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up some of the deeds. Yeah. So I went to check my messages and dig out my wallet because
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I was about to go run a couple of errands and as I'm sitting there for a minute,
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I looked up and I realized there was somebody who was sitting down,
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fully sitting down with his back up against the gas station building. And I was like, oh,
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weird choice, but cool, whatever. Kind of an older guy. So I was like, all right, maybe he
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walked there from somewhere and he's tired. I don't know. Okay. Sometimes you don't ask a lot of
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questions because you're not sure if you want the answers. Anywho. And as I'm sitting there for
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like a little bit longer, I realized that like he's looking directly at me. And then I realized
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that his face is like very animatedly like angry. He's animatedly like outwardly speaking and making
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direct eye contact at me. Okay. But that's I don't like that. Yeah. That's creepy. I mean, at first,
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it kind of started, he just looked like he was staring right at me. So I kind of shrugged that off.
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And I was like, whatever, like, you know, maybe he's totally zoning out. But when I realized like he's
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speaking, like he's audibly speaking, I couldn't hear him because of the distance. And you know,
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I've of course got a podcast playing in the background and you're in your car, right? Yeah, I was in my car.
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But I was still kind of fiddling with my phone for another minute and I like look up and I'm like,
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okay, he's like his demeanor is changing and he's like standing and he's still like seemingly
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angrily like shouting up at me and like looking directly at me. I was like, okay, that's weird.
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And I'm just kind of like, all right, I'm, you know, I just need to like get myself situated and I'm
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going to leave. And then all of a sudden I looked up and he was literally charging at my car.
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Oh my God. He was charging at my car and he just had
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the most deranged look on his face that I think I've ever seen. Like in person, in real life on a
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human person's face and he was screaming and he was like just very angry. And where I was parked is
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super close to the front door of the building and I knew that the front door hadn't been locked
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yet. But I was also one of the very last people there. But I didn't know that there was at least one
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person still there. I thought it might have been down to just me and one other person, but I wasn't sure.
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But this guy, he closed the gap between, I thought this was a much further distance coming up that
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little tiny grassy hill from the gas station then then it must be. I'm going to go out there with
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like a tape measure or something because I couldn't believe how fast he was like immediately within
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like probably three or four feet of my car. And it was at that point like I was like what the fuck?
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And I'm like panicking and I go to pull out, I put it in reverse and then I'm also very, very close to
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the exit of like the parking lot onto the main road. The only problem is that because we're so close
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to the corner, sometimes you have to wait for the cars that are turning right from the like
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perpendicular road to go. So the whole time, and this is not a short distance. So if he wanted to keep
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like if he was going to come up and like attack me, he could just keep running after my car.
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And it's not far at all. And obviously I'm not you know hitting it up to like 70 miles per hour
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because it's a parking lot. I don't even have enough runway to get up to that kind of speed
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and so I'm just looking over my shoulder and looking behind me and checking my mirrors and stuff
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for the few seconds that I have to sit there and wait to pull out. And just to make sure that he
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wasn't like following me. And as I'm you know I've already passed by the the the main door and I was
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panicking because I was like, oh my god, this guy is like he's so close to right there at the front door
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and he could just like walk into the building. Yeah. And I was like he's clearly like not here
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with us. So like what is he going to do if he stumbles into the building? And I was like, I can't get out
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of my car. Like because if I do that, then I like have nowhere to go. Yeah. I don't have a way to like
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get into the building and like lock the door faster than he could like catch me. So I'm panicking
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because on top of like I just want to pull away from the building. I was like, oh my god, what do I do?
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Like he could go into the building and like really hurt someone. Yeah. And so I'm sitting there and as
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I'm like pulling away, I just like rapid honked my horn and then I just like pulled away. I was like
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I have to go. I can't like because I'm sitting there thinking like can I call the main office line
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and like try to connect to the person who's like still at the office and I'm like I don't know their
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extension. Yeah. And like this is a brand new job. I don't even know everybody's names yet.
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So I just basically like pulled up to the grocery store parking lot the first place that I was going to
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go on my errands and I was like sitting there thinking through like I have my birdie. I own
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mace. I have no idea where it is. Yeah. I know. Aaron, I have not found it. I haven't ordered a new one.
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Yes. Chris has already addressed this with me. So I don't want to hear about it. And by the time
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this comes out, you better bet we both will have some and maybe a taser as well. But as I was like
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thinking it through, I'm like my birdie is inside of a cosmetic bag zipped up in my backpack.
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Well, that makes no sense. Yeah, it really doesn't. But my keys were getting really bulky and I wasn't
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always carrying it with me and I wasn't just like always having it at the ready. And so that's that's
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changed. I fix that in the in the parking lot of a trader Joe's. But I sat there and was just
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eventually I just had to get out of my car because I was like I don't want people to think I'm weird
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because I've sat here so long that the person who was parked right next to me, they came out to their
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car after I'd already been there for a couple of minutes. They pulled away and the empty parking spot
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on my right. Somebody has pulled in, gotten out of their car. They're probably halfway done with
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their shopping. I mean, the saturation. And then a new car pulled into the initially occupied spot.
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So I was like I have to go. I feel like I'm just I can't like make words. I can't seem to like
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clear my thoughts, but the look on this guy's face. I am not kidding you that I almost pulled
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like a quarter of a block away and just like pulled over. I just like couldn't figure out where I
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should pull over. Yeah. Because it's just in a spot where it's difficult to like find a it's a
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tough spot. But I was like I'm my head feels so heavy and dizzy and I could just feel like
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I could feel it, but I could hear it like all of the blood rushing into my head. Yeah. And I could hear
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the pounding in my ears. And I was like this is one of those times where you go from you know being
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there's a lot of circumstances that I think probably most women in life have encountered
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that you feel a little bit uneasy. This was one of the only times I don't want to say in my life
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because that if I go back far enough this is this is a feeling that I understand, but
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this is the last this is the only time in like the last decade that I can clearly recall feeling like
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I think if this person gets to me I really think they want to hurt me.
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That's so terrifying. And I just was like alternating between being completely
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catatonic and just like periods of like sobbing. Are you hearing that? Yeah.
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Can we all of a sudden just got like a ton of like static in our ears and that's gone.
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Okay. That's fine. I'm telling you this story is haunted. I said that jokingly, but maybe I'm not.
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I don't know. It's so hard to put into words like I feel like I can't fully express
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just like the way that it was like I'm lizard brain afraid. I'm purely acting on
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and really like the fight or flight like I genuinely thought that this person meant to do me serious harm.
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I don't know. It's hard to describe because I think a lot of us
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feel like we're worried about that. Yeah. But it was very it was a very a moment of very real like this
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is happening. Thank God you were in your car. I know. I know. Ready to go and not like at a bus stop
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oh my god can you imagine if yeah I know. So as you can imagine you know I think I told you
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no I didn't tell you I told because I purposefully didn't tell you what happened here because
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because I wanted to build a share it and I thought maybe it would be easier to not tell it
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and tell it and keep re-repeating it. Yeah. Well and then it's it's always one of those things too where
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some things you want to be prepared and some things you just want to say the thing and have that be
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like how your brain spits out the words. Yeah. And I thought maybe in this case it should be the
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ladder and now I'm starting to wonder if it should have been the former. No but we can see how it
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clearly affected you and I hopefully people are listening and God get your fucking birdie out of
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your makeup bag. Get mace. I always lock my doors when I get into my car right away. It's just like
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that's a that's a habit that I've had from like such a young age. Me too it's really sad that we
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have to have been taught that by our mothers at such an early age. Yeah. Like look under the car when
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you're walking up to it. Make sure no one's in your back seat. Lock the door quickly like.
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I don't know it just the and then there was sort of this weird feeling of like I don't
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want to say retraumatization exactly but you know Chris's response was like I feel like I need to go
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over there and see if this person is still there and you know he's had to do that in other situations
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and sometimes you know related to his job but he was basically saying you know maybe this is a
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situation where we need to figure out what his location is and you know let law enforcement be
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aware. Yeah. So I'm given to understand because my my reaction immediately was like why would we
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call the cops like the attitude about violence against women really of any kind any form or fashion
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a little bit frustrating in so many cases where it's like until he hurts you there's nothing we can do
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because there's no crime that's been committed but so that anybody else who's maybe you know
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experience something like this knows it's you know in that instance you know depending on the
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jurisdiction that can be considered like harassment or like a threat of violence. Yeah. Yeah.
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But I was like well I don't want to leave the house again I need to just melt and not be a person
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anymore. I need to just be a hat rack now and I can't do that if you leave because then I just
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sit here and cry and worry that like you know maybe in the course of you trying to just report this
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to the proper authorities that like something bad happens. I just yeah. Yeah. Stuntless. Yeah.
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I'm sorry that happened to you. Yeah. It wasn't that much fun. No. Like zero out of ten. I can't say
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enough how much I don't recommend negative. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it was sort of strange because I
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feel like in a weird way women are so prepared to protect themselves against violence. You know
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coming perpetrated by men largely. Sorry guys. You know. Yeah. But I feel like this felt like
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something different than like I feel like we all kind of have this sort of a trope in our minds about
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like oh you know it's like the rapist that attacks you in a car park or whatever. And this felt like
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a very different. I don't know something in my lizard brain was like I don't think that's what this
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is. I think this person like wants to physically hurt you in not that way that you've been a
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custom to think that all men do. Yeah. And it was like during the daytime it was yeah it was broad
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daylight. Yeah. He was clearly on something and I think so. He was the fastest grandpa I've ever met.
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Oh god. I've seen people on the side of the road like recently a guy just like screaming at his
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bike and kicking it on the side of the road and you know he looked very angry and see him full in the
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face. Yeah. But I can just imagine like I was imagining that type of thing coming at you. It was
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I in this situation you know I've seen that as well. And this was the first time that I was like
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oh fuck I'm the bike. Yeah. I'm the bike. Yeah. So yeah just I think just processing it. I don't know.
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I don't know why it feels like in a way like okay this feels very dramatic like calm down but
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I feel like I have to trust the like instinctual part of me that knows that this was this was
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not good. Like you said if I had been on foot like this would have ended very differently. I really
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I really believe that. Shit. Yeah. So aside from Caitlin's absolutely terrifying fucking story today.
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Yeah. We do have an email. Is it scary? I don't know because surprise I haven't even read a word of it.
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What? Yeah I feel like I because usually I kind of skim them. Yeah. But I was like you know I think it
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could be fun to just not read anything about it. I kind of read the last line. I glanced at it
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in the first line but I'm not sure if it's going to be much of a palette cleanser from Caitlin's story.
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So oh good. Yeah. Enjoy everyone. You'll be just as surprised as I am when I read it.
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I mean I do like that aspect. So it is titled Paranormal Story. So we kind of you know
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we can see what it's maybe about. Okay. They say hello. I know. Love the show. Thanks for being a wonderful
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and creepy source of entertainment. You're welcome. We try. I'd like to remain anonymous.
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This story goes back many years so I will do my best to keep it as short as possible.
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But it is worth the read. Obviously. We think so. We think anything is worth the read. Love it.
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When I was nine years old my family moved into the home where it all started. Okay. Where what started?
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Shortly after moving there within days my little brother who is six started refusing to sleep in his room.
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Oh. That's not a good sign. No. I was just going to say that's a bad sign. This was never an issue at our
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previous home. You don't say. Personally I always felt nervous in the house. Every time I went up the stairs
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I couldn't help but run as fast as I could because of the intense feeling of somebody being right behind
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me. Okay. No thank you. They go on to say I mean almost fall on your face fast.
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So they were like sprinting up those stairs. I mean for some people that's just like every speed but
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Caitlin has to run all the time or she would just get trampled by everyone else going so fast.
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Her little legs, my little legs. Every time I got to the top I'd stop, turn around and just be thankful.
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Nothing got me. Oh god. Why would you stop and turn around? I'd just keep going to my room.
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But that's what I was going to say. I don't want to see you just in case. No.
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My bedroom was next to my brothers and I really hated having to walk by it all the time.
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I would always need the door to be wide open because if it wasn't I would feel like someone was hiding
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in there. So I'd kick it open and run if it was partially closed. Okay that's totally, I mean that's a
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totally normal thing to do. Yeah, normal response to just a room in the house you know. Yeah I'm
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I'm gonna go with that. Nobody ever went in that room. One day I came out of my bedroom and the
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bedside lamp was on which I found very strange because I knew nobody. I knew nobody had been in there.
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It took every bit of courage I had to go and turn it off. Well when I did the light bulb exploded
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and I got quite the shock as well as a burn from hot glass. Oh no! Oh no! That is not what I expected.
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Sorry. Ouch. My older sister was in her first year of high school and decided to throw a Halloween
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party. She had this friend who was always such a bully. So I do find this part kind of amusing.
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Okay, I'm here for it. Yes, we don't like bullies. No. She had this tough girl persona. Always wearing a
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leather jacket and acting as if she was an acting as if she was queen shit of turd island. Oh my god.
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That's great. You know I'm just gonna say it. I'm glad that we've turned a corner
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societally and just wearing leather jacket doesn't really mean anything other than that you own a
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leather jacket. I think if you're acting like you're the queen shit of turd island and wearing a
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leather jacket. Yeah, I could see. Okay. All right. Anyway, during this party she went to use the
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washroom which was located at the top of the creepy staircase but came bolting out of the house
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in a panic. The other kids tried to ask her what happened but she just kept saying there's
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something in there. I don't want to talk about it. What's in there? She was quite upset that people
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were so curious and asking so she left almost immediately and refused to ever go inside her house again.
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Okay, well, so I assume it was more than just like a giant turd in the toilet or
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well she wouldn't have been afraid of that. She was queen turd of... That's right. Yeah, queen
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shit of turd island. That was her people. Yeah. She would have never felt more at home. I agree. Yeah.
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My sister and I have never been all that close but a few years later she told me that she would have
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really strange dreams during our time living there because my younger brother wouldn't sleep in
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his own bedroom. He would either sleep in my sister's room or my mom's room. My sister's dreams were
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always about my brother dying some horrible death. Oh no, I hate that. And she would wake up convinced
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that it was real until she would see him sleeping soundly beside her. At the time this was all she told me.
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So the dog? As there's a clicking outside my window. Oh okay, well listen okay, it's pull my
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feet up into the chair of the block. So hold on just a sec. Oh god. Okay, all right you guys nothing can
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get me now. Right. Okay. Man, but having those kinds of dreams is just the fucking worst. I don't know,
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I don't know. No, no. Fast forward a few years when I was 15. I decided to move in with my dad and
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things got pretty intense for me. I kept having this recurring dream. I'd wake up in my room and walk
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over to my window, but when I looked outside it didn't look like my yard. I'd see a tree with an old
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wooden and rope swing and a dirt road that would wind up past the tree. It was actually quite a
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pleasant scene. I'd see an old red black deck truck, 1940 style coming up from the top of the road.
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Then the sky would get dark and I'd notice the swing was now a noose. No thank you. I knew it. I knew it.
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I knew it. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Why did it transform into a noose? I don't like it. Yeah,
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no, I have to go. I just remembered I have a thing. I'd run towards my door, but no matter how hard I
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pulled it just kept slamming shut as if someone was holding the other side. No.
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I looked to my left and this woman was there. She was tall and slim with long black hair,
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wearing a white dress, and although I can tell you what her face looks like,
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there's just this knowing that she is beautiful. Okay, I was expecting a lot worse. She says, I like,
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I hope I can breathe the rest of the night because I have forgotten how. I don't know how anymore.
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Okay, so she's beautiful. That's a relief. Okay. Yeah, because I mean, God forbid she should be
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unattractive. Right. Yeah. That's terrifying. I can't really explain that. It's like I've seen her face,
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but also haven't. That makes sense. I kind of guess like Deja Vu feeling. Yeah. It's a little bit like
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fuzzy. Yeah. Yeah. She starts to loom over me as if she is getting taller and I realize she's not on
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the ground. And what I see after that is so otherworldly that I can't put it into words. Okay, great.
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Well, we don't want to push ya. So spoiler alert, she doesn't stay beautiful.
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She turns nervous. I don't. Okay. She turns so demonic and comes towards me so incredibly quick
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that it jolts me awake. Ah. Just like that. Yeah. Every single time this happens, I have to get out of
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bed, look out my window to make sure I'm actually awake. I had this dream four times. That is four times
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too many. Yeah. Oh, many weird things happened while I lived in that room to be clear. This is a
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different house, but it did stop when I moved to a different bedroom. Okay. I won't share every last
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detail, but the other things I will mention is twice I'd been woken up from the feeling of my cat
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jumping onto my bed, but I'd quickly realize that she's not in my room in the doors closed.
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No, your cat maybe it's like a spirit cat. Yeah. Spirit guide cat or something, right? Yeah.
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Listen, I'm already a little touch and go with cats because I don't understand them. So
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ghost cats, it's a bridge too far for me personally. Okay, I won't spoiler alert this one. I'm
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just gonna go into it. Okay, great. So I'd open my eyes to see the woman for my dreams, just
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sitting on the end of my bed. She would disappear as I went to get, oh, God, I can even read.
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She would disappear as I went to get a light on. So if you could see her until you went to turn on the
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light, oh, God. Okay. Well, that's I'm sure there's reasons. Yeah. You know, because reason, ghost
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reasons. Yeah. Demonic reasons. I mean, yeah. For years, nothing else happened. I had almost forgotten
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about it all. Well, did my best to never think or talk about it anyway. Don't blame you. Yeah.
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I am now 32 years old. My sister and I have gotten a bit closer in the past year, and she was over
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for coffee a couple of months ago. Somehow, we got on the topic of the first house that I mentioned in
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this story. She told me more about her experience there and told me there was more than just dreams.
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No, thank you. This is where shit gets weird. Oh, it's gonna be weird. Okay. I'm just gonna have to
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take your word for it. She told me twice. She woke up to the sound of someone coming up the staircase.
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She would walk down the hall to see a woman halfway up the stairs. The woman would look up, notice
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my sister and start coming towards my sister. Not step by step, but in a levitation manner, picking up
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speed. My sister would run back to her room. I asked if this was a dream, but she swears she was awake.
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Out of curiosity, I asked what this woman looks like.
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- No.
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- She described her as kind of like the girl from the ring.
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- No, not.
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- Not, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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- Podcast over.
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- Nope.
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- You're not seeing her, hopefully.
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- But nope, not gonna see her.
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- Nope, we'll cleanse you.
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- As soon as she said that,
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I was in shock.
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- Well, thanks for joining me.
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- I just bumped my shoulder on the thing
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and I got someone touch me.
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It was really scary.
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- I was like, no.
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- I wondered what happened.
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I was like, what was that?
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- Whoops.
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- You're like, yeah, that's what I was wondering.
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- I scared myself.
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- Third.
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- I asked how she was different.
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My sister said she's not a child.
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She's tall and her hair doesn't cover her face,
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but I can't picture her face for some reason.
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But she's really pretty.
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- Oh great.
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- So like the same person?
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- Yeah, that, I mean, it's better if they're the same,
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probably, two of those, two separate.
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- I know that makes it more real though,
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if they're like validating in a tubbers.
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- I appreciate it.
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- I don't like it.
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I don't like it.
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- I literally sang to the floor when she said that.
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I told my sister about my dreams
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and we found other similarities.
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I asked if anything else ever happened.
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I said, has she ever just stopped in for a visit?
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I'm not even kidding.
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She said, yeah, and she sits on the end of my bed.
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- No.
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No.
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No.
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- Oh my god, I just got fucking freezing cold.
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- No.
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- Did you get chilly with these?
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- I don't like it.
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No, it's not cold.
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I don't, mm-mm.
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I got the goose flesh.
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We've agreed to leave it there
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and never talk about it again.
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- Yeah, that's probably for the best.
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That is so fucking creepy.
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Yeah, and she comes and sits on the end of my bed.
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- No.
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- I don't like that.
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I don't like that.
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- I really don't like that.
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Stop doing that.
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You shouldn't hang out with her, you know?
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Especially like when she starts saying,
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17.
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- No.
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- Nope, nope, no.
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No, no.
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What's crazy too is that normally,
426
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,920
if something was sitting on the end of my bed,
427
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,400
that I thought was a beautiful woman or something,
428
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,720
be like, okay, maybe they're trying to protect you
429
00:38:47,720 --> 00:38:50,440
or they're just making sure
430
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,000
that you're having nice dreams,
431
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,920
but then the other part of the dream
432
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,160
where she turns into a damn demon and rushes your face.
433
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,480
- Yeah, so I feel like in case it was unclear,
434
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,240
I don't think that's her plan.
435
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:05,000
- I really wanted it to be true, but.
436
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,400
- Yeah.
437
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,040
- Well shit, I'm so sorry you've had
438
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,280
so many traumatic events and then you wrote us a story
439
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,400
about it after agreeing never to talk about it again.
440
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,720
- Yeah.
441
00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:19,480
- Well, hopefully maybe getting it out
442
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:24,480
and into the universe will calm it down in your mind.
443
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,240
- Alivea.
444
00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:28,880
- Yeah, and we'll do a little terror reading for it too.
445
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,520
- Oh, great.
446
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,800
And by we, Cassie means she.
447
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,120
- You're gonna be there too.
448
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,360
- I will physically be in the room.
449
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,600
My soul has left the building.
450
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,400
- We need your energy.
451
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,560
- I don't have any.
452
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:45,880
I don't have any.
453
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:51,440
(bell rings)
454
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,640
- As indie podcasters, we love to show our support
455
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,440
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456
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So stay tuned for the promo we've got to share
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462
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467
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,040
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468
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From histories most brutal serial killers
474
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475
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476
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,880
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477
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478
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479
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480
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481
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with us at home and chatting about monsters and tragedies,
482
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but having a few laughs along the way.
483
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484
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if the mics were off, frankly.
485
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487
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- You guys, we're back.
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- And don't worry, we did get more wine.
513
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,440
- Well, of course.
514
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,200
(snoring)
515
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,080
- Well, you're gonna shuffle some of that dick?
516
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:40,400
So I got a new deck at Margie's Outdoor Store.
517
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,360
- God damn it, it is brand new.
518
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,120
I got the crow deck
519
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,080
and she's been sitting on the cell and I,
520
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:52,080
I've been holding her and calling at her.
521
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:56,320
Oh, go on, you would.
522
00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:02,520
- Yeah, and I haven't used it yet.
523
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,520
- No, I pulled one card from it.
524
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:05,680
Pulled one card.
525
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:06,520
Okay.
526
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:11,080
It's very recent trip, very fresh, very new.
527
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:11,920
Okay.
528
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:12,920
- Now I'm just saying words.
529
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:13,920
- Yeah.
530
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,040
I mean, that happens sometimes.
531
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:21,040
- Okay, so we're gonna pull a card for the spooky house,
532
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:26,080
spooky dreams, the ring lady who's not the ring lady
533
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,360
who's pretty, but you don't see her face.
534
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:30,640
(laughing)
535
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:31,480
- Okay.
536
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:32,320
- All that.
537
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:33,960
- But do we have to?
538
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,640
- Yes, we do.
539
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,960
- So anonymous, this is your card.
540
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,520
Your card is the queen of wands.
541
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,760
- Okay.
542
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,120
I'm so nervous.
543
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:50,760
- So it's got two lions on it and a crow in some sunflowers.
544
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,040
- I turned almost right to it.
545
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,320
- Ooh, I like it.
546
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,200
- Okay, and it's in the upright?
547
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,160
- In the upright, okay.
548
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,960
Our keywords are creativity, passion, prosperity,
549
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,240
fruitfulness and generosity.
550
00:44:07,240 --> 00:44:10,320
Generosity, generosity, say.
551
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,040
Like the king, the queen of wands is often pictured
552
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:18,320
seated on a throne, wearing an elegant robe and a crown.
553
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,160
She's usually a beautiful mature woman
554
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:27,160
who epitomizes feminine authority, confidence,
555
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,600
warmth and enthusiasm.
556
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,960
- Is she the queen should have turned high like that?
557
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,560
- Maybe.
558
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,320
- We're gonna use that all the time, no matter what.
559
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,800
- That's ours now, thank you.
560
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,120
We're gonna merge, mate.
561
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:44,960
- Yeah.
562
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,320
- Oh my God.
563
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,160
Okay.
564
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,120
In a reading, the queen may signify an actual person
565
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,880
when she does it's someone who's active, vibrant and outgoing,
566
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,720
perhaps a woman with a creative nature.
567
00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:05,680
upright, a fortunate card, the upright queen
568
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,560
gives you a thumbs up.
569
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,000
I disagree.
570
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,680
If this card signifies a real person,
571
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,840
she's a figure who commands respect.
572
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,480
Whether she's in the boardroom or the home,
573
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,200
the boardroom or the bedroom.
574
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,360
Oh.
575
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,920
- Am I right?
576
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,960
- This is creepy though, 'cause it was like,
577
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,600
in someone's home.
578
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:30,440
Yeah.
579
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:35,720
A wise advisor, she is also a loyal friend,
580
00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:38,760
a loving partner, a trustworthy authority.
581
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,440
Maybe in your previous life.
582
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,880
She has a nurturing, colorful and generous nature.
583
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,040
She's confident in her abilities
584
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,640
and encourages others to do their best.
585
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,840
- Huh, maybe this is like her sister.
586
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:55,680
Or their sister. - Yeah.
587
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,920
- I don't know if it was a man or a woman writing this,
588
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,640
but I wonder if it was their sister.
589
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,800
'Cause they did say they had a better relationship now
590
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,840
for the past, was it year?
591
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,040
- Yeah.
592
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:07,880
That could be.
593
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,760
- Maybe it's the good side of the story
594
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,600
is popping out through the cards.
595
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,600
- That feels like maybe more on point.
596
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,960
Like the King, she may play a prominent role
597
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,840
in a business or her community.
598
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,560
In a question about money, the Queen says,
599
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,240
"Do what you love, the money will follow."
600
00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:31,240
You may receive money from a creative venture
601
00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:35,680
or prosper through a partnership or other alliance.
602
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,400
If you asked about a job,
603
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,840
the upright Queen shows a period of fulfillment
604
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,720
when a project bears fruit and you're happy with the outcome.
605
00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:49,600
This is also a good time to birth or expand a venture.
606
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,800
In a reading about a relationship,
607
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:56,720
she shows a passionate romance between loyal loving partners.
608
00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:59,720
Maybe this is just a message.
609
00:46:59,720 --> 00:47:02,080
- That's what I was just thinking as you were reading.
610
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,400
- Yeah.
611
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,880
Okay, there's an extra excerpt.
612
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,200
- We didn't finish our sentence,
613
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,000
though, we kind of just mind-melded there,
614
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,000
but we think maybe it's a message for the person who wrote it
615
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,920
and it's not actually about the story, is that what we were thinking?
616
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,480
- Yeah, I thought that, sorry,
617
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:18,800
I thought that was kind of implied.
618
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,560
- I feel like we just like half-set it
619
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,320
and for anyone maybe who does it is an honor brainwaves.
620
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,600
- Yeah, well get on our brainwaves.
621
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:27,560
- Yeah, okay.
622
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,000
Thanks.
623
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,400
The Queen of Wands represents a vital, passionate
624
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,000
and aggressive female,
625
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,560
"Whoa, grossly."
626
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,120
Who wants to help other people through her efforts?
627
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,280
Okay, and then you had us and you lost us,
628
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,200
so I'm gonna guess.
629
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,400
- I don't know, remember I said maybe she was a helper,
630
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,840
maybe she was just coming on a little too strong.
631
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,360
- Yeah, maybe.
632
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,680
Though she appears to be fighting those who cross her path,
633
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,680
she is a true champion of those she supports.
634
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,440
So does she support you?
635
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,480
- I don't know. - I don't know.
636
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,560
- Well, did we just get our answer?
637
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:03,400
- And maybe.
638
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,240
- Answered?
639
00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:08,920
- A little bit of a mixed message, potentially,
640
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,280
but, huh, I kinda like that.
641
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:12,400
- That's interesting.
642
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:13,880
- There's another one.
643
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:14,720
- Okay.
644
00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:19,020
- The Queen of Wands bears similarities
645
00:48:19,020 --> 00:48:21,720
to the Celtic goddess Bridget,
646
00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:24,540
who rules both the hearth and the forge.
647
00:48:24,540 --> 00:48:29,200
Often she's pictured stirring a fiery cauldron.
648
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,600
- Woo! - Woo-hoo-hoo!
649
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,600
- Symbolic of creativity and inspiration,
650
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,000
which is Link Bridget with self-expression,
651
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,420
Smithcraft, and Healing and Celebrate her subat,
652
00:48:43,420 --> 00:48:48,280
known as Imbol on February 1st.
653
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,120
- Nice.
654
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,120
I think you did pretty good with those pronunciations.
655
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:51,960
- Okay.
656
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,480
- I listened to that witchy podcast.
657
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:55,800
What is it?
658
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,920
Goddess witch womb.
659
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:58,920
- Oh, yeah. - That one,
660
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,400
oh my god, they have so much information.
661
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:01,800
They've talked about her before.
662
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:02,800
- Love it.
663
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,040
- I feel like a shaggy dog.
664
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,800
I can't even see my eyes right now.
665
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,760
(laughs)
666
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,240
- Just like God. - Just like God.
667
00:49:09,240 --> 00:49:12,040
- And for anyone who's not on Patreon,
668
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,360
we have a cauldron here today
669
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,940
and a bunch of witchy shit, spells cast here.
670
00:49:16,940 --> 00:49:19,160
We've got a magic ball.
671
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:23,080
Our cups are good witch, wicked witch.
672
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,160
Caitlin shirt says drink witches, drink up witches.
673
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,040
- Drink up witches? - Yeah.
674
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,000
- Okay, so this is also just hitting me now
675
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,600
as I actually look at the card.
676
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,280
This is like a dark, obviously it's a crow,
677
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,800
but it's like a dark specter looking over two lions.
678
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,240
- Two lions.
679
00:49:43,240 --> 00:49:44,400
The siblings?
680
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,800
- That really blows my mind that we were wondering
681
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:53,800
if she was good or bad in the whole card seems to suggest.
682
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,880
- I mean, it could go either way.
683
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:57,880
- Yeah.
684
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:58,960
- Yeah.
685
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,320
That's wild.
686
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,320
- Yeah, and I didn't know what this whole thing was about
687
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,560
too when I picked the crow, dark today.
688
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,600
- That's interesting.
689
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,080
- We didn't even know we were really gonna record this today,
690
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,520
so we had no idea what was gonna happen
691
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:14,760
'cause we never do.
692
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,880
- Interesting, yeah, 'cause the whole witch, wow.
693
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,720
Everything just falls right into place, don't it?
694
00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:22,260
- Just does what it's supposed to.
695
00:50:22,260 --> 00:50:25,240
- This pretty much says the same thing,
696
00:50:25,240 --> 00:50:28,080
but in a cute crow story, so I don't know if anyone wants
697
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,240
to see it, I'll maybe post it to Patreon.
698
00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:32,560
- If you don't care, then don't tell me,
699
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,000
and I won't post it.
700
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,480
I think that we should draw a card for Caitlin's story.
701
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:39,800
- Oh, yay.
702
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,160
I guess.
703
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,120
- So I'm feeling like I'm gonna shuffle it one more time
704
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,560
and then have you draw a card.
705
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,520
- Oh, I don't wanna pick it.
706
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,240
- I think you should, but don't be scared.
707
00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:52,640
Just take a minute and breathe.
708
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:58,560
- Breathing is where the air comes into your body
709
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,000
and then you push it back out.
710
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:00,840
- Yes.
711
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,600
- Feel your body with air.
712
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,080
(sniffing)
713
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,280
- You do know that I have literally been told
714
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,400
that I first of all don't blink right,
715
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,600
but second of all, don't breathe right, yeah.
716
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,600
This is, okay.
717
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,320
We're gonna go with this one.
718
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:19,320
So I'm gonna set that there,
719
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,200
'cause I wanna give us the option of,
720
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,680
okay, what'd you get?
721
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:27,520
- There you go.
722
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:28,360
I don't know.
723
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:29,200
- Oh, okay.
724
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,080
- That's the two of swords in reverse.
725
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:31,920
- Okay.
726
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:32,760
- In reverse.
727
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:33,600
- I'm sure that's good.
728
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:34,640
It's another two.
729
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:35,480
- It's that one.
730
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,760
- You know the two in, two lions, two swords.
731
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:39,760
- Yes.
732
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,480
- Which, I'm a lion, I don't know.
733
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,400
- Maybe that's, maybe that's nothing.
734
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,320
- Not great imagery.
735
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:48,160
- Yeah.
736
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,320
- Of the blindfolded one in.
737
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,560
- That's great.
738
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,000
I love that one.
739
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:52,840
- Sorry.
740
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,960
- No, that's cool.
741
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,240
Okay.
742
00:51:57,240 --> 00:51:58,960
Two of swords.
743
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,400
Keywords are combined resources,
744
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:07,240
courage, faith, friendship, conflict and balance.
745
00:52:07,240 --> 00:52:09,520
In some tarot dags.
746
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,520
Yeah, I don't, you know, okay.
747
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:18,120
In some tarot dags, this card depicts a blindfolded woman
748
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,720
holding two swords crossed over her chest,
749
00:52:20,720 --> 00:52:23,000
which maybe I'll just buy two swords.
750
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,360
Is that the takeaway?
751
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:25,520
- Yeah, no blindfold though.
752
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:26,720
- I think we're done here.
753
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:29,360
I think you've talked before about being machined
754
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:30,800
from walking that.
755
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:31,640
- Oh.
756
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:32,880
- Okay.
757
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:37,400
- Two's generally signify balance or conflict
758
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,080
as well as pairing.
759
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,960
I think of the two of swords as the blind faith card
760
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,120
because it can represent courage and making decisions
761
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,000
based on your own truth.
762
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,040
And in some cases, spiritual guidance.
763
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,720
- Something telling you to get the fuck out.
764
00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:57,280
- There's a conflict on the horizon.
765
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:58,120
- I don't know.
766
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,440
This was in reverse, correct?
767
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:02,280
- Yes.
768
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:03,800
- Okay.
769
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,920
- Reverse the two of swords often indicates confusion
770
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,800
or conflict with yourself or someone else.
771
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,120
- Well, okay.
772
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,760
- Fair.
773
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,240
An imbalance may cause stress or frustration.
774
00:53:17,240 --> 00:53:20,640
- An imbalance of drugs?
775
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:21,840
- Perhaps.
776
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,000
Sometimes this card urges you to take action
777
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,680
rather than endlessly analyzing a situation.
778
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:33,160
That is so rude and I've never felt more triggered.
779
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,720
- That's very true though.
780
00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:35,960
Like take action.
781
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,000
We're getting the mace.
782
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,000
You got the birdie out.
783
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,480
Like, yeah.
784
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:40,320
We're doing that.
785
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,720
You can't see ahead,
786
00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:44,880
but you must take a leap of faith.
787
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,000
I mustn't.
788
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,280
I shan't.
789
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,920
In a reading about money, this card suggests
790
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,080
worrying about a financial matter.
791
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,000
You don't know what to do and can't trust anyone to help you,
792
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,240
which is accurate.
793
00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:00,400
- Accurate in the moment.
794
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:01,720
- Don't trust anyone.
795
00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:02,560
- Yeah.
796
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:03,400
- Ever.
797
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:04,240
- Yeah.
798
00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:06,640
Well, you didn't like run into the building either,
799
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,600
so that was like you were kind of on your own.
800
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,120
- I'm like, bye.
801
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:14,120
- The reverse two can indicate choosing between
802
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,280
two unsatisfactory options.
803
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,240
A rock and a hard place.
804
00:54:19,240 --> 00:54:22,240
Apparently, if the reading is about your job,
805
00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:26,640
the reverse two represents confusion, indecision,
806
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:31,240
lack of information or conflicts regarding your work.
807
00:54:31,240 --> 00:54:33,120
Yeah.
808
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,240
It can also warn that colleagues aren't reliable
809
00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:37,720
or trustworthy.
810
00:54:37,720 --> 00:54:42,080
You need to look hard at something you don't want to see.
811
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,680
In a reading about love,
812
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:49,560
confusion or differences of opinion may cause stagnation
813
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,160
in a relationship.
814
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,560
Are you clashing swords?
815
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,840
- I feel like it's not about a love thing,
816
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,200
but I love that turn of face.
817
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,480
Honesty and openness are important now.
818
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:08,240
The reverse two also represents imbalance.
819
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:12,000
One person may wield more power than the other.
820
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,840
- I am.
821
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,960
- Crazy person with nothing to lose.
822
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,720
- I thought we were still talking about love.
823
00:55:19,720 --> 00:55:20,720
- Oh, okay.
824
00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:22,040
- Look at power.
825
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,280
I think it's not about love.
826
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,480
I'm not thinking about love in your story at all.
827
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:26,960
- No, not at all.
828
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,600
- I just was like, let's change the subject.
829
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,240
Did never have feelings or, okay.
830
00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:35,000
- Yeah. - Are any extras?
831
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,320
- Extrasurves.
832
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:37,480
- Extrasurves.
833
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,480
- Maybe I should look at the rest.
834
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,480
- I don't know why, but I'm turning the page.
835
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,200
And, oh, okay.
836
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:45,040
Why?
837
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:46,480
'Cause you found something?
838
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,720
Well, I didn't know that I would,
839
00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:50,640
but yeah, I was like, oh, turn the page
840
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,480
'cause there's no extra exerbs
841
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,520
and there actually is on the next page.
842
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,040
- Whoa.
843
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,280
Calm down, okay.
844
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:01,760
It's just a terror reading.
845
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,120
- Okay.
846
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:09,960
The soul is a diamond in the rough,
847
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,280
which must abide the blows inflicted by suffering
848
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,320
in order to shine in all its brilliance.
849
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:23,480
Cassie, do you wanna know what book this is from?
850
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,400
- Yes.
851
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,560
- Like water for chocolate.
852
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,080
Oh, you don't like chocolate.
853
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,720
And I don't like feelings.
854
00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:36,720
(laughing)
855
00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:39,680
- You're like crying in your chocolate.
856
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,040
I feel like I need to read this.
857
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,440
I feel like if I had to eat chocolate, I would cry.
858
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,080
(laughing)
859
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:47,240
- Shocking chocolate down your throat.
860
00:56:47,240 --> 00:56:49,120
(groaning)
861
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,720
- In the little crow book, it says, "Two of Swords,
862
00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:57,080
the Blindfolded Crow balances herself on two blades,
863
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,120
on the blades of two Swords.
864
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:00,840
She calmly stays in place,
865
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:05,680
unable to see the edges or where to safely hop to next.
866
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,560
She is afraid of making a dangerous or painful mistake.
867
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:13,560
The two of Swords suggests you may find it difficult
868
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,600
to make a significant decision
869
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,160
because you feel you aren't unable to see the full picture
870
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,480
or that there is valuable information
871
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,040
that is being withheld.
872
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:28,680
If you are feeling stuck, evaluate where the fear is coming from.
873
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,440
I think you know where the fear was coming from.
874
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:31,280
- Yeah.
875
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,400
- So I mean, potentially through my windshield.
876
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,040
- And look for the steps and information you need
877
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:38,240
to proceed safely.
878
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,440
So start your car and get the fuck out.
879
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,160
- Yeah, GTFO.
880
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:43,560
- Pay attention to your surroundings.
881
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,040
Very important.
882
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:45,920
Lock your doors.
883
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,120
When the two of Swords is reversed,
884
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:53,400
oh okay, the problem with indecision is heightened.
885
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,600
You are unable to find any clarity due to an overload
886
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,640
of information, thus leaving you more confused
887
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,440
and unable to figure out what is most relevant,
888
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,200
which definitely it fucked with your brain.
889
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:08,440
- Yeah.
890
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,720
- Well, even just the point of like looking over
891
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,640
at that like front door and being like,
892
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:19,120
can I run back and set it?
893
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:19,960
- Yeah.
894
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,640
- No, no, no, no, I would choose.
895
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,800
- You had to choice pretty much.
896
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,240
That's interesting.
897
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,120
- Yeah, it is interesting.
898
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:33,600
- Another successful, tarot read by two successful witches.
899
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,240
- Drink up, shall we?
900
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,120
- I think I've had plenty.
901
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,640
- I mean, you've barely had any at all,
902
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,560
but I'm a lightweight nowadays.
903
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,000
Well, what makes one of us?
904
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:49,360
We have a Patreon shout out.
905
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:50,760
- Woohoo, another one.
906
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,240
- Yeah, it's another one.
907
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,440
- Does not bite the dust.
908
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:57,920
Not doing that.
909
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:02,920
- Never, no, but Jocelyn, thank you so much for joining us.
910
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:07,680
And you figured out the annual,
911
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,320
the annual subscription on Patreon.
912
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,040
- Oh, she committed to a whole year with us.
913
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:14,240
- A whole year.
914
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,800
- Oh girl, okay.
915
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:16,640
- We got you.
916
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:17,480
- Okay.
917
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,040
- It's gonna be fun.
918
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:23,000
Welcome to our Patreon, where you get a personalized
919
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,640
welcome card with a mini tarot reading inside.
920
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,240
- Yeah.
921
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,920
- And a shout out, like you just got.
922
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,080
- It just happened.
923
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:31,920
That was it.
924
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:32,760
We did it.
925
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:33,680
And we're gonna do it again.
926
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:34,920
Shout out Jocelyn.
927
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:35,760
Jocelyn.
928
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,320
Jocelyn Jocelyn.
929
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:38,480
- We're super excited.
930
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:39,800
- We are.
931
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,240
- We're not too excited.
932
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:43,080
- Yeah.
933
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:44,520
- They're a little too eager.
934
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:50,200
- Hey, listen, if you weren't into the silly voices
935
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,640
and giggling and eagerness, then I'm not really sure
936
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,800
what you came here for exactly.
937
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,920
Maybe the ghost, I don't know, maybe, maybe.
938
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:00,680
- Definitely not the murder.
939
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:01,720
(laughs)
940
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:05,440
- Okay, well Jocelyn, cared away in here.
941
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,000
If you can't support us monetarily, no worries,
942
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:13,840
because the easiest ways to support us are absolutely free.
943
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,280
- Tell everyone in anyone you come into contact
944
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,400
with about us, but not too close of a contact.
945
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,040
- Yeah, just like shouting distance.
946
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,320
- At least three to five feet away.
947
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,840
Shout PNW Haunts and Homicides.
948
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,400
- Bye, bye, bye.
949
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:29,240
- Bye.
950
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:30,080
(laughs)
951
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,000
- Or you can leave us a five star review
952
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,000
on any platform you can, and fun fact,
953
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,240
you can leave a review on our website.
954
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,040
- Yeah, I'm gonna go do it right now.
955
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:43,360
Actually, if you visit our website, not only can you leave us
956
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,720
a review, there's so many fun things you can do.
957
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,560
You can subscribe to our newsletter.
958
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:50,400
- Oh, fun.
959
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:54,300
I don't know that we've ever talked about it on the show.
960
01:00:54,300 --> 01:00:55,940
We might have like one time.
961
01:00:55,940 --> 01:00:57,700
- Yeah, but yeah, we have a newsletter.
962
01:00:57,700 --> 01:00:58,860
- We do.
963
01:00:58,860 --> 01:01:00,580
Sometimes we send things.
964
01:01:00,580 --> 01:01:02,900
We tell you about the happenings.
965
01:01:02,900 --> 01:01:04,020
- Perhaps.
966
01:01:04,020 --> 01:01:06,300
- What's the happy-to-heps?
967
01:01:06,300 --> 01:01:07,780
Is that what the kids say?
968
01:01:07,780 --> 01:01:08,860
- I think, sure.
969
01:01:08,860 --> 01:01:09,980
- Yeah, cut.
970
01:01:09,980 --> 01:01:12,660
- If you have any true crime, paranormal,
971
01:01:12,660 --> 01:01:17,580
or witchy stories to submit for, I don't know, a CPC,
972
01:01:17,580 --> 01:01:20,500
like this one, Cravy People, Chronicles,
973
01:01:20,500 --> 01:01:23,700
are listener appreciation episodes.
974
01:01:23,700 --> 01:01:28,700
You can email us at pnwhauntsandhomicides@gmail.com
975
01:01:28,700 --> 01:01:34,620
or use our handy, dandy, Google Contact link
976
01:01:34,620 --> 01:01:37,020
in the episode description.
977
01:01:37,020 --> 01:01:39,900
But also while we're talking about the website
978
01:01:39,900 --> 01:01:41,820
and the newsletter and all of the things
979
01:01:41,820 --> 01:01:43,740
that we do with the things,
980
01:01:43,740 --> 01:01:47,100
you can also leave stories directly on our website. pnwhauntsandhomicides.com
981
01:01:47,100 --> 01:01:49,460
- Oh, we have a contact button.
982
01:01:49,460 --> 01:01:50,300
- Perfect.
983
01:01:50,300 --> 01:01:52,300
- You can write your stories there.
984
01:01:52,300 --> 01:01:54,420
Also, if you send an address with your story,
985
01:01:54,420 --> 01:01:56,180
we'll send you some stickers.
986
01:01:56,180 --> 01:01:57,020
- Stickers?
987
01:01:57,020 --> 01:01:57,860
- Yeah.
988
01:01:57,860 --> 01:01:59,140
- Oh my God.
989
01:01:59,140 --> 01:02:01,620
- That's a way to get a little card out of us
990
01:02:01,620 --> 01:02:02,740
and some stickers, though.
991
01:02:02,740 --> 01:02:04,220
- Sure is.
992
01:02:04,220 --> 01:02:05,060
- Awesome.
993
01:02:05,060 --> 01:02:05,900
I'm excited.
994
01:02:05,900 --> 01:02:07,420
I'm excited for the flood of stories
995
01:02:07,420 --> 01:02:08,500
that's about to come in.
996
01:02:08,500 --> 01:02:09,340
- Do you wait?
997
01:02:09,340 --> 01:02:10,420
- I believe in you guys.
998
01:02:10,420 --> 01:02:15,420
- Listen, we got a full-ha-d of reviews in these last few days.
999
01:02:15,420 --> 01:02:20,300
We have like five on like one day.
1000
01:02:20,300 --> 01:02:22,180
- Oh, thank you guys.
1001
01:02:22,180 --> 01:02:25,100
You're always welcome to remain anonymous.
1002
01:02:25,100 --> 01:02:26,660
See, someone did it.
1003
01:02:26,660 --> 01:02:27,820
She did it.
1004
01:02:27,820 --> 01:02:28,620
They did it.
1005
01:02:28,620 --> 01:02:29,780
He did it.
1006
01:02:29,780 --> 01:02:30,620
We don't know.
1007
01:02:30,620 --> 01:02:32,500
So hard to say, you know?
1008
01:02:32,500 --> 01:02:34,100
Somebody did.
1009
01:02:34,100 --> 01:02:37,700
And remember, your stories do not have to be
1010
01:02:37,700 --> 01:02:39,820
from the Pacific Northwest.
1011
01:02:39,820 --> 01:02:43,500
If you wanna share, send us a story from anywhere.
1012
01:02:43,500 --> 01:02:45,860
- We don't know where this story was from, so.
1013
01:02:45,860 --> 01:02:47,460
Follow us on all of the socials.
1014
01:02:47,460 --> 01:02:50,420
If you don't wanna miss out on photos of the tarot cards
1015
01:02:50,420 --> 01:02:52,780
that we pull for every episode,
1016
01:02:52,780 --> 01:02:55,460
our beautiful, alter set-ups that are also different
1017
01:02:55,460 --> 01:02:57,260
for every episode, mostly.
1018
01:02:57,260 --> 01:02:58,100
- Mostly.
1019
01:02:58,100 --> 01:03:01,540
- And a lot of backstage shenanigans.
1020
01:03:01,540 --> 01:03:02,380
- Yeah.
1021
01:03:02,380 --> 01:03:03,220
- We get into it.
1022
01:03:03,220 --> 01:03:06,180
We post reels and tic-tac.
1023
01:03:06,180 --> 01:03:07,020
- Tic-tac?
1024
01:03:07,020 --> 01:03:07,860
- Yeah.
1025
01:03:07,860 --> 01:03:09,820
We do all that stuff.
1026
01:03:09,820 --> 01:03:12,340
- Our fun goings-on in the Pacific Northwest.
1027
01:03:12,340 --> 01:03:15,180
We like to visit places and post about them.
1028
01:03:15,180 --> 01:03:16,220
- I know.
1029
01:03:16,220 --> 01:03:17,740
Should we tell them about the thing
1030
01:03:17,740 --> 01:03:18,980
that we're gonna do tonight?
1031
01:03:18,980 --> 01:03:19,820
- Oh, yeah.
1032
01:03:19,820 --> 01:03:21,980
- And to this, it will have already happened?
1033
01:03:21,980 --> 01:03:22,820
- Yeah.
1034
01:03:22,820 --> 01:03:25,540
So we mentioned earlier, we're going to Ashnikko.
1035
01:03:25,540 --> 01:03:27,420
And then it dawned on us.
1036
01:03:27,420 --> 01:03:31,660
We're going to the Roseland, which we covered.
1037
01:03:31,660 --> 01:03:32,500
Yeah.
1038
01:03:32,500 --> 01:03:34,740
So if you haven't listened to that episode
1039
01:03:34,740 --> 01:03:37,980
that we talked about the Roseland, what was it called?
1040
01:03:37,980 --> 01:03:39,980
- Go back in, listen, do it.
1041
01:03:39,980 --> 01:03:41,100
- Okay, you guys.
1042
01:03:41,100 --> 01:03:46,100
We just figured out 100 episodes ago, exactly.
1043
01:03:46,100 --> 01:03:49,260
Episode 35.
1044
01:03:49,260 --> 01:03:53,340
This is episode 135, that's so creepy.
1045
01:03:53,340 --> 01:03:59,340
Episode 35, we covered what was formerly known as
1046
01:03:59,340 --> 01:04:00,620
the Starry Night.
1047
01:04:00,620 --> 01:04:02,260
We are going there tonight.
1048
01:04:02,260 --> 01:04:04,660
It's now known as the Roseland.
1049
01:04:04,660 --> 01:04:08,220
The case that we covered was the murder of Tim Moreau.
1050
01:04:08,220 --> 01:04:12,060
So that episode is titled The Starry Night,
1051
01:04:12,060 --> 01:04:14,380
Murder of Tim Moreau.
1052
01:04:14,380 --> 01:04:15,700
- Ooh.
1053
01:04:15,700 --> 01:04:16,700
- I...
1054
01:04:18,860 --> 01:04:21,300
- Yeah, that is crazy.
1055
01:04:21,300 --> 01:04:22,460
- All of the chills.
1056
01:04:22,460 --> 01:04:24,700
All of the chills and all of the non-verbal
1057
01:04:24,700 --> 01:04:28,140
and weird mouth sounds that I do, you guys get it.
1058
01:04:28,140 --> 01:04:29,380
- It was meant to be.
1059
01:04:29,380 --> 01:04:30,580
- Yeah.
1060
01:04:30,580 --> 01:04:32,860
Do you want to know when that episode came out?
1061
01:04:32,860 --> 01:04:33,900
- Yeah.
1062
01:04:33,900 --> 01:04:35,740
It came out on Christmas Eve.
1063
01:04:35,740 --> 01:04:37,140
- Oh, that's right.
1064
01:04:37,140 --> 01:04:38,300
- Yeah.
1065
01:04:38,300 --> 01:04:39,140
- That's right.
1066
01:04:39,140 --> 01:04:40,140
- Oh my God.
1067
01:04:40,140 --> 01:04:42,580
- That was our Christmas Eve special.
1068
01:04:42,580 --> 01:04:43,420
- You're welcome.
1069
01:04:43,420 --> 01:04:44,260
- Yeah.
1070
01:04:44,260 --> 01:04:46,900
Hey guys, it's Christmas Eve.
1071
01:04:46,900 --> 01:04:48,460
How about some murder?
1072
01:04:48,460 --> 01:04:49,460
- I don't know what it's like to be a ghost.
1073
01:04:49,460 --> 01:04:53,020
I do remember that people were seeing a ghost
1074
01:04:53,020 --> 01:04:56,780
like a strangling sound and oh.
1075
01:04:56,780 --> 01:04:58,100
Strangling.
1076
01:04:58,100 --> 01:04:59,260
No.
1077
01:04:59,260 --> 01:05:00,260
- I don't know.
1078
01:05:00,260 --> 01:05:01,820
Well, hopefully it'll be so packed tonight
1079
01:05:01,820 --> 01:05:03,780
like that we won't see any ghosts.
1080
01:05:03,780 --> 01:05:04,940
- Yeah.
1081
01:05:04,940 --> 01:05:07,940
- Maybe Cassie will wander off down a dark hallway
1082
01:05:07,940 --> 01:05:09,700
and try to seek out a ghost.
1083
01:05:09,700 --> 01:05:11,380
- Okay.
1084
01:05:11,380 --> 01:05:12,220
All right.
1085
01:05:12,220 --> 01:05:14,140
Well, I'm not going anywhere alone.
1086
01:05:14,140 --> 01:05:14,980
- Yeah.
1087
01:05:14,980 --> 01:05:15,820
- Okay.
1088
01:05:15,820 --> 01:05:19,820
Anyways, you can find our website and our link tree
1089
01:05:19,820 --> 01:05:21,700
in the description of this episode
1090
01:05:21,700 --> 01:05:24,900
to check out all of the fun that we have to offer.
1091
01:05:24,900 --> 01:05:25,740
All of it.
1092
01:05:25,740 --> 01:05:29,460
Also, the website is linked to our link tree.
1093
01:05:29,460 --> 01:05:30,300
- Ooh.
1094
01:05:30,300 --> 01:05:31,460
- It's a lot of linking.
1095
01:05:31,460 --> 01:05:34,140
So many links, a link and that movie,
1096
01:05:34,140 --> 01:05:35,900
missing link is so fucking cute.
1097
01:05:35,900 --> 01:05:39,660
Have a creepy ass day!
1098
01:05:39,660 --> 01:05:41,100
- See you next Tuesday!
1099
01:05:44,460 --> 01:05:47,380
- We hope hopefully not at the gas station parking lot.
1100
01:05:47,380 --> 01:05:49,180
- Oh gosh.
1101
01:05:49,180 --> 01:05:50,380
- Everyone be safe.
1102
01:05:50,380 --> 01:05:52,020
Please.
1103
01:05:52,020 --> 01:05:52,860
Please be safe.
1104
01:05:52,860 --> 01:05:53,780
Also anonymous.
1105
01:05:53,780 --> 01:05:57,580
Let us know if the card meant anything to you.
1106
01:05:57,580 --> 01:05:59,140
What do you think about it?
1107
01:05:59,140 --> 01:06:00,660
- I know I'm dying to know.
1108
01:06:00,660 --> 01:06:01,500
- I know.
1109
01:06:01,500 --> 01:06:02,340
- I know.
1110
01:06:02,340 --> 01:06:06,460
- Also like anonymous anonymous, you know,
1111
01:06:06,460 --> 01:06:10,660
like the big anonymous, like what a,
1112
01:06:10,660 --> 01:06:13,460
we hope you guys are always cool with us.
1113
01:06:13,460 --> 01:06:17,020
- Yeah, yeah, 'cause they really mess people up.
1114
01:06:17,020 --> 01:06:19,100
- Yeah, I don't, we've talked about it before.
1115
01:06:19,100 --> 01:06:20,700
We don't wanna be on their bad side.
1116
01:06:20,700 --> 01:06:21,700
- Yeah.
1117
01:06:21,700 --> 01:06:22,540
I don't know.
1118
01:06:22,540 --> 01:06:23,780
It just feels like something worth mentioning
1119
01:06:23,780 --> 01:06:24,940
everyone's in a while.
1120
01:06:24,940 --> 01:06:27,820
Just, you know, for the periodic searches
1121
01:06:27,820 --> 01:06:29,300
of like who's talking shit.
1122
01:06:29,300 --> 01:06:30,500
We're not talking shit.
1123
01:06:30,500 --> 01:06:36,460
- I'm just so, I'm not here.
1124
01:06:36,460 --> 01:06:37,460
I'm not here.
1125
01:06:37,460 --> 01:06:40,380
I'm just like floating through time and space.
1126
01:06:40,380 --> 01:06:41,380
I don't know.
1127
01:06:41,380 --> 01:06:42,380
- I'm just here.
1128
01:06:42,380 --> 01:06:43,220
Who said that?
1129
01:06:43,220 --> 01:06:45,460
- You're not here and I'm just here.
1130
01:06:45,460 --> 01:06:46,460
- Yeah.
1131
01:06:46,460 --> 01:06:49,820
- All right, well, oh wait, bye.
1132
01:06:49,820 --> 01:06:51,020
- Bye, we should probably go.
1133
01:06:51,020 --> 01:06:52,300
Yeah, we can't keep the camera on
1134
01:06:52,300 --> 01:06:54,540
'cause they might see you're un-mentionable.
1135
01:06:54,540 --> 01:07:00,060
We were gonna have Chris stay in the back
1136
01:07:00,060 --> 01:07:02,740
and fold laundry while we did this.
1137
01:07:02,740 --> 01:07:06,620
And Kaelin was like, no, someone might see my un-mentionables
1138
01:07:06,620 --> 01:07:07,620
(laughs)
1139
01:07:07,620 --> 01:07:10,540
'cause she is an old-timey bitch.
1140
01:07:10,540 --> 01:07:14,220
'Cause I'm the old-timeiest of bitches.
1141
01:07:14,220 --> 01:07:16,300
(laughs)
1142
01:07:17,140 --> 01:07:19,720
(soft music)
1143
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,140
(soft music)
1144
01:07:23,140 --> 01:07:50,980
[Music]
1145
01:07:50,980 --> 01:07:55,220
Oh my god are you okay?
1146
01:07:55,220 --> 01:07:59,060
You okay?
1147
01:07:59,060 --> 01:08:03,060
It just run to the bubbles.
1148
01:08:03,060 --> 01:08:04,060
The bubbles.
1149
01:08:04,060 --> 01:08:06,060
The bubbles what out to get you.
1150
01:08:06,060 --> 01:08:07,060
[Music]
1151
01:08:07,060 --> 01:08:08,060
Build, build getcha.
1152
01:08:08,060 --> 01:08:09,060
Build getcha every time.
1153
01:08:09,060 --> 01:08:10,060
She says sorry.
1154
01:08:10,060 --> 01:08:11,340
No you're right.
1155
01:08:11,340 --> 01:08:14,340
[Music]
1156
01:08:14,340 --> 01:08:16,540
Your story is really getting to me.
1157
01:08:16,540 --> 01:08:17,540
[Music]
1158
01:08:17,540 --> 01:08:19,540
I mean I haven't even told you anything.
1159
01:08:19,540 --> 01:08:20,540
[Music]
1160
01:08:20,540 --> 01:08:22,620
It may really get to you.
1161
01:08:22,620 --> 01:08:27,380
I feel like it really bothered me.
1162
01:08:27,380 --> 01:08:29,780
Oh my god.
1163
01:08:29,780 --> 01:08:31,580
That doesn't happen to me like ever.
1164
01:08:31,580 --> 01:08:32,580
Yeah you like.
1165
01:08:32,580 --> 01:08:34,580
Oh no.
1166
01:08:34,580 --> 01:08:36,860
Like your eyes are watering.
1167
01:08:36,860 --> 01:08:37,860
Yeah.
1168
01:08:37,860 --> 01:08:38,860
No.
1169
01:08:38,860 --> 01:08:46,860
I feel like this story is like as haunted as my hat rack head feels today.
1170
01:08:46,860 --> 01:08:52,180
Like it's empty and spooky and no one really knows what's going on.
1171
01:08:52,180 --> 01:08:53,180
God.
1172
01:08:53,180 --> 01:08:54,180
And it tried to take my go.
1173
01:08:54,180 --> 01:08:55,180
Oh man.
1174
01:08:55,180 --> 01:08:58,500
Well it creeps me out because you know I was having that stuff with my neck where it
1175
01:08:58,500 --> 01:08:59,500
was pulling.
1176
01:08:59,500 --> 01:09:00,500
I was being strangled.
1177
01:09:00,500 --> 01:09:06,940
And then the other day I was listening to a podcast and she said that she'd been told
1178
01:09:06,940 --> 01:09:09,740
that she was going to die by choking.
1179
01:09:09,740 --> 01:09:13,260
And I was like freaking out because I was like what is with all the fucking choking and then
1180
01:09:13,260 --> 01:09:14,260
today I'm choking.
1181
01:09:14,260 --> 01:09:15,260
Oh my god.
1182
01:09:15,260 --> 01:09:17,260
You were choking the other day.
1183
01:09:17,260 --> 01:09:18,260
Yeah.
1184
01:09:18,260 --> 01:09:19,260
A lot of it.
1185
01:09:19,260 --> 01:09:20,260
Okay.
1186
01:09:20,260 --> 01:09:21,260
I don't like it.
1187
01:09:21,260 --> 01:09:22,260
I don't want to be choked.
1188
01:09:22,260 --> 01:09:23,260
No I don't like that.
1189
01:09:23,260 --> 01:09:25,260
I don't like that at all.
1190
01:09:25,260 --> 01:09:26,260
Okay.
1191
01:09:26,260 --> 01:09:27,260
I think I'm okay.
1192
01:09:27,260 --> 01:09:28,260
Okay.